Current Events > Tennessee GOP says don't treat white terrorist like terrorist .

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white people are not terrorist. they are mentally ill.

only people of color can be terrorist or thugs.
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"Virginia Senate stomps 200 puppies to death"

"I am so proud to be a Virginian. We have great ham."
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As far as I'm concerned, Tennessee is lame except for Jack Daniels, which is lovely.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

As far as I'm concerned, Tennessee is lame except for Jack Daniels, which is lovely.

Where do you live
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I believe tangible white nationalist organizations should absolutely be deemed potential terrorist threats. They have extremely dangerous rhetoric that seeks to vilify minorities, creates conspiracies about Jewish people, and preaches allusion to hatred that contextually has ideological relations to Neo Nazi groups who in turn were based on Nazi Germany, which committed mass genocide.

Extreme points of view that include establishing ethno-states should be allowed to be spoken, especially since it identifies that person as somebody you should never take seriously, but if you preach an idea that naturally requires the forced removal or deaths of people who do not belong to your race, you should be investigated and have an eye kept on you since you are at extremely high risk of becoming radicalized.

I think the alt-right falls under this since it's effectively a gateway group for young, white men to become indoctrinated by white nationalist rhetoric.

Now, I'm not super biased here, because I believe the same could be said of Antifa, and Antifa is more active in property destruction. However, the "it's just thoughts" excuse provided for white nationalist groups misses the point that they are primed to become like Antifa if given the opportunity and are likely more armed on average and are just as dangerous ideologically.

This is all why I believe that terms like "Nazi" should be used sparingly. You shouldn't take power from these words. We live in a turbulent era socially and being able to accurately identify extremists and extremist enablers is very important. Calling right-wingers you do not agree with "Nazis" isn't conducive to exposing the real extremism that exists.

reposted since it got caught by the 50 page limit and I think it contributes <_< >_>
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hockeybub89 posted...

"Virginia Senate stomps 200 puppies to death"

"I am so proud to be a Virginian. We have great ham."

This is what ToonLinkWithGun is doing.

I am trying to work out whether he is just a trolling or trying to convey that he is a white supremacist himself without saying because of the potential consequences of such statement.

BJ-blazkowics posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

"Virginia Senate stomps 200 puppies to death"

"I am so proud to be a Virginian. We have great ham."

This is what ToonLinkWithGun is doing.

I am trying to work out whether he is just a trolling or trying to convey that he is a white supremacist himself without saying because of the potential consequences of such statement.

I love my state. Shut the fuck up
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s0nicfan posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

BJ-blazkowics posted...

I still don't get why it's a publicity stunt, TBQH.

Because liberals just want to label all Republicans as enemies of the state obviously. They secretly all want to live in a fascist police state. That will totally happen under the Trump administration. By the way, when will we do something about real terrorism, like all those liberals who keep destroying cities? I am a smart, unbiased person merely stating the facts

You should both consider reading the first page:
s0nicfan posted...

IIRC this was posted a few days ago and something explicitly missing from this version of the story is that this resolution ALSO included "alt-right" in the list of people to denounce as terrorists, but did not define the boundaries of what alt-right meant.

Here's the language from the resolution itself:

WHEREAS, today, white nationalism has attempted to reinvent itself, self-identifying as the "Alt-Right,"

So basically this was a trap resolution made to either let the left openly declare anyone they want terrorists by nature of being "alt-right" or to let them declare as the TC is doing that the right supports white nationalists.

Alt-right is self-proclaimed label for radical right-wingers that think all right-wingers think like them, but they are the only ones bold enough to admit it. It is wrong that "liberals" sometimes label the wrong people as alt-right because it detracts from the reality that alt-right should only be reserved for the Stormfronty types.
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I love The Usual Suspects. Doesn't mean I declared my adoration for Kevin Spacey's acting when he admitted to molesting a 15 year old boy. Maybe you're new to interacting with humans, but context is important.
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hockeybub89 posted...

I love The Usual Suspects. Doesn't mean I declared my adoration for Kevin Spacey's acting when he admitted to molesting a 15 year old boy. Maybe you're new to interacting with humans, but context is important.

Is the state of Tennessee molesting 15 year old boys?
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...

Is the state of Tennessee molesting 15 year old boys?

no, but they're ok with judges signing off on 12 year old girls being married to adult men
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For the record, I believe what I believe having been exposed to large amounts of white nationalist rhetoric. Not neoliberals, not paleocons, not libertarians, no - I'm talking etho-state supporters, racists, and people with extremely dangerous views that heavily conflict with the concept of freedom as America understands it.

Such as;

-Forced traditionalism that includes women being subservient either by law or by social pressure

-Forced segregation

-Etho-states

-De-fanging the Nazi regime to make it seem sympathetic or justified

-Vilification of Jewish people

-Historical revisionism seeking to condemn Civil Rights leaders of the 60s as a way to undermine desegregation.

-The use of uncontextualized statistics to frame debates around the claimed inferiority of black people among white nationalists.

-The dehumanizing (not criticism, dehumanizing) of Muslims and advocacy of removing the religion as a whole or demonizing it to the point where anybody following the ideas preached may simply come to that conclusion themselves.

I want to note that the above is not to be equated with simply criticizing Islam or Islamic culture. The above is distinct in that white nationalists will use words that are related to animals to broadly describe Muslim peoples.

These people aren't any sort of majority but they have the potential to be extremely dangerous and have intricate methods of indoctrination. Organizations tied to these things should be investigated as terror threats.
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halomonkey1_3_5 posted...

ToonLinkWithGun posted...

Is the state of Tennessee molesting 15 year old boys?

no, but they're ok with judges signing off on 12 year old girls being married to adult men

Does that mean I am?
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I think this more indicative of how stupid the American political system is rather than how bad a single party is.
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

I love The Usual Suspects. Doesn't mean I declared my adoration for Kevin Spacey's acting when he admitted to molesting a 15 year old boy. Maybe you're new to interacting with humans, but context is important.

Is the state of Tennessee molesting 15 year old boys?

No? Just stating an odd time to say how much I like something.
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hockeybub89 posted...

ToonLinkWithGun posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

I love The Usual Suspects. Doesn't mean I declared my adoration for Kevin Spacey's acting when he admitted to molesting a 15 year old boy. Maybe you're new to interacting with humans, but context is important.

Is the state of Tennessee molesting 15 year old boys?

No? Just stating an odd time to say how much I like something.

An odd time to say something about Kevin Spacy would be in a topic that has nothing to do with Kevin Spacy. This topic mentions Tennessee. (Insert Red Forman comment here)
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

As far as I'm concerned, Tennessee is lame except for Jack Daniels, which is lovely.

Where do you live

Pyongyang, North Korea
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

ToonLinkWithGun posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

As far as I'm concerned, Tennessee is lame except for Jack Daniels, which is lovely.

Where do you live

Pyongyang, North Korea

Communist
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

ToonLinkWithGun posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

I love The Usual Suspects. Doesn't mean I declared my adoration for Kevin Spacey's acting when he admitted to molesting a 15 year old boy. Maybe you're new to interacting with humans, but context is important.

Is the state of Tennessee molesting 15 year old boys?

No? Just stating an odd time to say how much I like something.

An odd time to say something about Kevin Spacy would be in a topic that has nothing to do with Kevin Spacy. This topic mentions Tennessee. (Insert Red Forman comment here)

The Usual Suspects is dope as fuck though. It's my favorite movie.
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

ToonLinkWithGun posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

I love The Usual Suspects. Doesn't mean I declared my adoration for Kevin Spacey's acting when he admitted to molesting a 15 year old boy. Maybe you're new to interacting with humans, but context is important.

Is the state of Tennessee molesting 15 year old boys?

No? Just stating an odd time to say how much I like something.

An odd time to say something about Kevin Spacy would be in a topic that has nothing to do with Kevin Spacy. This topic mentions Tennessee. (Insert Red Forman comment here)

You're right. This is why I talk about my love of bratwurst when I see discussions on human experimentation in Nazi Germany come up. I love bratwurst and associate it with the word Germany. It is relevant as bratwurst is related to the mentioned country.
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hockeybub89 posted...

ToonLinkWithGun posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

ToonLinkWithGun posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

I love The Usual Suspects. Doesn't mean I declared my adoration for Kevin Spacey's acting when he admitted to molesting a 15 year old boy. Maybe you're new to interacting with humans, but context is important.

Is the state of Tennessee molesting 15 year old boys?

No? Just stating an odd time to say how much I like something.

An odd time to say something about Kevin Spacy would be in a topic that has nothing to do with Kevin Spacy. This topic mentions Tennessee. (Insert Red Forman comment here)

You're right. This is why I talk about my love of bratwurst when I see discussions on human experimentation in Nazi Germany come up. I love bratwurst and associate it with the word Germany. It is relevant as bratwurst is related to the mentioned country.

I never talked about food though. I didn't even mention anything that Tennessee has to offer. I could have. Seriously you're so bad at this but you say I lack human interaction.
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cjsdowg posted...

_RETS_ posted...

You'll have to explain what you're talking about.

But you're also acting as if I have to see things as either this or that. I didn't say GOPers haven't said or done anything racist, had bad ideas, or that I agree with everything that is said. I said for this one specific issue there is more to it than what you're suggesting.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/black-lawmakers-meet-fbi-director-over-black-identity-extremists-report-n824801

"It's a characterization and it's very inaccurate of the movement that is going on," Richmond said. "We don't want anyone to view Black Lives Matter or other organizations that protest as an extremist group or a domestic terrorist group because we think that's very dangerous."

The report in question distinguished BLM from the "black identity extremists" who murdered a number of people in 2016 (10 in four separate ideology motivated attacks). And IIRC, this study was started under Obama.

Who makes the interpretation who becomes a "black identity extremist?"' Jackson Lee told NBC News after the meeting. "

The report focused on this group and others like it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorish_Science_Temple_of_America

Both Micah Johnson and Gavin Long identified with such groups (Gavin fancied himself as a "Moor"). Of course, condemning such extremism upset many on the left wing which is not surprising given the current Louis Farrakhan scandal that has ensnared a number of black politicians.

Ammonitida posted...

cjsdowg posted...

_RETS_ posted...

You'll have to explain what you're talking about.

But you're also acting as if I have to see things as either this or that. I didn't say GOPers haven't said or done anything racist, had bad ideas, or that I agree with everything that is said. I said for this one specific issue there is more to it than what you're suggesting.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/black-lawmakers-meet-fbi-director-over-black-identity-extremists-report-n824801

"It's a characterization and it's very inaccurate of the movement that is going on," Richmond said. "We don't want anyone to view Black Lives Matter or other organizations that protest as an extremist group or a domestic terrorist group because we think that's very dangerous."

The report in question distinguished BLM from the "black identity extremists" who murdered a number of people in 2016 (10 in four separate ideology motivated attacks). And IIRC, this study was started under Obama.

Who makes the interpretation who becomes a "black identity extremist?"' Jackson Lee told NBC News after the meeting. "

The report focused on this group and others like it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorish_Science_Temple_of_America

Both Micah Johnson and Gavin Long identified with such groups (Gavin fancied himself as a "Moor"). Of course, condemning such extremism upset many on the left wing which is not surprising given the current Louis Farrakhan scandal that has ensnared a number of black politicians.

Point is, people pretending to be upset about this are simply virtue signaling, which is the purpose for which the resolution was created in the first place.

If the right proposed the same thing for black militants but had a broad definition of it, especially in a society where disagreement gets you labelled as a black militant, the leftists here would adamantly oppose it and rightfully so.

ToonLinkWithGun posted...

BJ-blazkowics posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

"Virginia Senate stomps 200 puppies to death"

"I am so proud to be a Virginian. We have great ham."

This is what ToonLinkWithGun is doing.

I am trying to work out whether he is just a trolling or trying to convey that he is a white supremacist himself without saying because of the potential consequences of such statement.

I love my state. Shut the fuck up

Why are you so defensive about this? Nothing wrong with loving your state, BTW. You're just making a tacit implication that I am not sure whether you realize you're doing.

News: "State of Alabama tortures 90 baby seals for fun"
Guy: "I am so proud to be an Alamabaman!"

^ Can you work it out?

ToonLinkWithGun posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

ToonLinkWithGun posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

I love The Usual Suspects. Doesn't mean I declared my adoration for Kevin Spacey's acting when he admitted to molesting a 15 year old boy. Maybe you're new to interacting with humans, but context is important.

Is the state of Tennessee molesting 15 year old boys?

No? Just stating an odd time to say how much I like something.

An odd time to say something about Kevin Spacy would be in a topic that has nothing to do with Kevin Spacy. This topic mentions Tennessee. (Insert Red Forman comment here)

Analogies, how do they work?

Zero_Destroyer posted...

I want to note that the above is not to be equated with simply criticizing Islam or Islamic culture. The above is distinct in that white nationalists will use words that are related to animals to broadly describe Muslim peoples.

Many refrain from such words in an effort to present themselves as something less extreme than the alt-right. An example would be Joseph Paul Watson. However, they still employ the usual white nationalist dehumanization tactics, like emphasizing random crimes committed by Muslims or "migrants" (even those not motivated by any ideology). Donald Trump engaged in that himself recently.

Zero_Destroyer posted...

These people aren't any sort of majority

Not on right wing forums like the Dailycaller. I just hope it's a vocal minority.

Ammonitida posted...

Zero_Destroyer posted...

I want to note that the above is not to be equated with simply criticizing Islam or Islamic culture. The above is distinct in that white nationalists will use words that are related to animals to broadly describe Muslim peoples.

Many refrain from such words in an effort to present themselves as something less extreme than the alt-right. An example would be Joseph Paul Watson. However, they still employ the usual white nationalist dehumanization tactics, like emphasizing random crimes committed by Muslims or "migrants" (even those not motivated by any ideology). Donald Trump engaged in that himself recently.

Yes he has.

He has been curiously silent on certain events, e.g. the student shooting on Aztec high school, New Mexico, while overly vocal on certain minor events, like that one border agent that slipped and fell and died, blaming it on hispanics and calling them animals. Not to mention he never corrects his stories once they're found out to be fake (for example, he thought that agent had been killed, but he fell)

BJ-blazkowics posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Zero_Destroyer posted...

I want to note that the above is not to be equated with simply criticizing Islam or Islamic culture. The above is distinct in that white nationalists will use words that are related to animals to broadly describe Muslim peoples.

Many refrain from such words in an effort to present themselves as something less extreme than the alt-right. An example would be Joseph Paul Watson. However, they still employ the usual white nationalist dehumanization tactics, like emphasizing random crimes committed by Muslims or "migrants" (even those not motivated by any ideology). Donald Trump engaged in that himself recently.

Yes he has.

He has been curiously silent on certain events, e.g. the student shooting on Aztec high school, New Mexico, while overly vocal on certain minor events, like that one border agent that slipped and fell and died, blaming it on hispanics and calling them animals. Not to mention he never corrects his stories once they're found out to be fake (for example, he thought that agent had been killed, but he fell)

You're referring to Watson?

Paul Joseph Watson has no credibility, or at least, he shouldn't. He has no intellectual credibility, at least. He has demonstrably been shown to have a great misunderstanding of topics he discusses, is a demonstrable hypocrite and conman, and sometimes pedals conspiracy theories that are unsubstantiated. His background with InfoWars makes all of these factors unsurprising.

I feel like he's a gateway to the gateway, in a sense, but is wink-and-nudge enough to where he doesn't turn off the bulk of more mainstream right wing audiences. But I agree he subtly nudges in that direction, likely to keep favor with the extreme right.
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Tennessee is a great State. One of the best States.
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Ammonitida posted...

BJ-blazkowics posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Zero_Destroyer posted...

I want to note that the above is not to be equated with simply criticizing Islam or Islamic culture. The above is distinct in that white nationalists will use words that are related to animals to broadly describe Muslim peoples.

Many refrain from such words in an effort to present themselves as something less extreme than the alt-right. An example would be Joseph Paul Watson. However, they still employ the usual white nationalist dehumanization tactics, like emphasizing random crimes committed by Muslims or "migrants" (even those not motivated by any ideology). Donald Trump engaged in that himself recently.

Yes he has.

He has been curiously silent on certain events, e.g. the student shooting on Aztec high school, New Mexico, while overly vocal on certain minor events, like that one border agent that slipped and fell and died, blaming it on hispanics and calling them animals. Not to mention he never corrects his stories once they're found out to be fake (for example, he thought that agent had been killed, but he fell)

You're referring to Watson?

no, to the prez

bump
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