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Any tips?
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Get good with the stamina recharge mechanic so you have infinite stamina

Focus on high damage and invulnerability mode duration

push buttons
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Do not give up.
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I beat the first boss (Derrick Executioner). Everything seems okay so far. I'm a bit of a souls vet but I'm enjoying the faster gameplay. The stance thing wasn't really made clear in the first stage tho? Since I tried pressing and holding r1 but nothing really happened
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you press r1 as your characters hand flashes after an attack

you also need to buy skills to open up the abilities to recharge ki from various stances

btw the game is fun up until bullshit multi bosses and 1 shots
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ModLogic posted...

you press r1 as your characters hand flashes after an attack

you also need to buy skills to open up the abilities to recharge ki from various stances

btw the game is fun up until bullshit multi bosses and 1 shots

Ah I see. Just did the dojo tutorial. Picked odachi, dual swords and fire wolf dude
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Play a better game like Bloodborne or anything else in the Souls series. Yes...even II.
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sylverlolol posted...

Play a better game like Bloodborne or anything else in the Souls series. Yes...even II.

Nioh is really good in its own right. Sorry you're too much of a groupie to see that
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How does equip weight work in this game? Is there fat rolling or something? Lol
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sylverlolol posted...

Play a better game like Bloodborne or anything else in the Souls series. Yes...even II.

I beat all of them
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sylverlolol posted...

Play a better game like Bloodborne or anything else in the Souls series. Yes...even II.

I can attest to this, though.

I have played all the Souls/Demon's/Bloodborne games...I'm about half-way into Nioh and will likely return it.

Not a bad game by any measure, but not quite as great at these^
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SrRd_RacinG posted...

sylverlolol posted...

Play a better game like Bloodborne or anything else in the Souls series. Yes...even II.

I can attest to this, though.

I have played all the Souls/Demon's/Bloodborne games...I'm about half-way into Nioh and will likely return it.

Not a bad game by any measure, but not quite as great at these^

This is fanboy mentality. It's cool but I just want you to know if you didn't
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Touch posted...

How does equip weight work in this game? Is there fat rolling or something? Lol

Yes. Different tiers of equip burden is indicated by color and a letter.
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Nioh is a dope ass game. Basically if Ninja Gaiden Black and Dark Souls had a baby.
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

sylverlolol posted...

Play a better game like Bloodborne or anything else in the Souls series. Yes...even II.

Nioh is really good in its own right. Sorry you're too much of a groupie to see that

It really isn't. All it has going for it is the combat. The story is terrible. The consistently reused enemy types and areas (for side quests too!) is just terrible.

I made it through to the third area. I tried to give the game a fair shot. I actually believed that the reused assets wouldn't bug me as much as it ended up doing. So...no, not s groupie. Just a highly disappointed gamer calling a bad game what it is.
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sylverlolol posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

sylverlolol posted...

Play a better game like Bloodborne or anything else in the Souls series. Yes...even II.

Nioh is really good in its own right. Sorry you're too much of a groupie to see that

It really isn't. All it has going for it is the combat. The story is terrible. The consistently reused enemy types and areas (for side quests too!) is just terrible.

I made it through to the third area. I tried to give the game a fair shot. I actually believed that the reused assets wouldn't bug me as much as it ended up doing. So...no, not s groupie. Just a highly disappointed gamer calling a bad game what it is.

Alright. It's not for everyone.
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sylverlolol posted...

ust a highly disappointed gamer calling a bad game what it is.

exactly how i felt about souls
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Look this isn't a thread about which game is better. I enjoy everything for what it is so can we not make this a souls vs Nioh dick waving topic lol
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Nioh has poorer environments and the re-use of enemies is bothersome/boring.

But still a recommended game if you're into that genre. I think Dark Souls nails it, though.
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I'm enjoying it so far. I'm a big loot fan so all these loots is making me happy. I think I'm set on dual blades and axe which sucks cuz they're kinda not on the same stat spectrum lol
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There's a super broken skill you absolutely need to have which recharges ki when you dodge
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Link HT posted...

There's a super broken skill you absolutely need to have which recharges ki when you dodge

I got that for all three stances but I'm not sure I'm doing it right lol.

Also I feel like I'm ass at ki pulse timing. I get it but always get the miniscule recoveries.
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you can look at the ki bar if you don't have the timing down yet
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Touch posted...

I'm enjoying it so far. I'm a big loot fan

You're likely going to get a lot of fun out of Nioh then.

Touch posted...

Also I feel like I'm ass at ki pulse timing. I get it but always get the miniscule recoveries.

Ki pulse is not all about maximum ki returns. There will be many, many situations where it is impossible to ki pulse perfectly. There will even be times where you do not have the luxury to ki pulse at all, lest you get hit.

It's important as well to keep in mind a ki pulse isn't just about regaining stamina. A perfect ki pulse will clear a yokai realm, and any ki pulse is effectively a recovery time cancellation of the attacks you just did. That can often be more important.

Also you can absolutely go axes + dual katanas. You can go all weapons even. It's not SUPER strict on needing you to squeeze every last drop of damage out of your weapons and scaling works a bit weird for weapon damage in this, in that it has no diminishing returns and just cycles through a strong gain, a medium gain, a small gain, then strong again, and so on. So the gain you get for the 30th point of strength is the same as the 33rd, 36th, 39th, etc. all the way to 99 and beyond.

Equip load works similarly to Souls games, and is color-coded. So long as your equip weight is colored green you're fine. Yellow or red and you're in trouble. Blue is kind of overkill.

For someone coming from From Software's games, some things to consider:

- Your dodge is generally weaker; it has low i-frames, and you can't dodge to escape a lot of enemy combos, but you CAN block to stop enemies from comboing you. So blocking is stronger/more important, dodging is weaker.

- Status effects are very strong in this game and you can visually see the build up meter on enemies as you hit them with it. It'll show an image for the status effect and it'll fill up as you hit them. Build up mechanics are the same as Souls. When a status effect is inflicted, the symbol for it will be shown larger briefly, and there'll be some visualisation on the afflicted for the effect. Additionally, continuing to hit an enemy with something that causes build up of the status effect they have will extend the duration, and this can be used to make it last indefinitely.

- You can see enemy stamina (ki) too, and it is a pretty critical facet of combat; however, yokai ki is different and is essentially their poise, and it doesn't auto-regenerate unless they're in a yokai realm aura, or they perform a move that produces one; however smaller yokai have no poise and depleting their ki is less significant.

- You eventually get infinite respecs, so feel free to experiment; generally every playstyle still stands to gain from putting SOME points in every stat eventually so hyper-focused builds that neglect multiple stats are not really a thing because they're not actually optimal.

- Armor is very strong in this game. If you want to go tank, you absolutely can. Defense works similarly to defense stats in Souls games, but armor also has % based damage reduction and, from armor specifically, it stacks additively, and what that essentially means is the more of it you have, the more powerful getting even a little more is.

- Toughness is sort of poise, but it also affects how much ki damage you take from attacks (blocking or otherwise). It is also color-coded like equip weight. 100 is green and is worth shooting for, though 200, blue, is really good, big difference. Speaking of blocking: the "parry" stat on weapons can be thought of as stability, as in how good they are at blocking. Guard ki reduction, which is a % value, also makes stuff better at blocking
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made it to the poison caves and gave up after I died and couldn't find my way back, lmao. game just wasn't for me :(
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Also regarding status effects, the game never comes out and says all this and there's misinformation online so I want to cover exactly what the basic status effects are doing:

Paralysis: The enemy will be froze up, unable to move for awhile or until being hit once. They take more damage and if they're a human enemy who can be grappled, you can grapple them.

Poison: Straight forward damage over time, though how much damage it does is not universal as some enemies are resistant to the damage, some weak to it.

Fire (Scorched): Damage over time, performing evasive moves greatly reduces its remaining duration so dodge/roll if on fire.

Water (Saturated): Increased physical damage taken, and slight increase to the status build up of additional effects.

Earth (Muddied): Significantly increased ki damage sustained.

Lightning (Electrified): Reduced movement/action speed.

Wind (Blustered): Greatly reduced physical damage output.

In addition, if two elemental status effects are inflicted at the same time, an additional effect is triggered:

Confusion: 50% more damage taken from all sources, greatly reduced ki recovery in humans, emptied ki for yokai and an inability to create yokai realms or recover ki in any way for the duration; inflicting additional different elemental statuses while this is in effect extends the duration.

Also small clarification: by two elemental statuses inflicted at the same time, I don't mean they have to both activate at the same time, just that two are affecting the enemy at the same time, so like burning them, then switching to wind damage and inflicting that too. >_>
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Oh geez I'm past Yuki-Onna and the post about the status effects was pretty useful.
I'm not sure if I'll stick with Nioh past just finishing the story though. Probably gonna skip the post-game/DLC
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Thanks a bunch for the advice Tmk!
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Jesus that Umi Buzo motherfucker took a a mad amount of tries

And I ain't even fucking with Muneshige Tachibana. I did like...ten tries and was like fuck this dude I'll come back later lol
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Touch posted...

Jesus that Umi Buzo motherfucker took a a mad amount of tries

Did you do it without getting any of the torches?

TheMarthKoopa posted...

Touch posted...

Jesus that Umi Buzo motherfucker took a a mad amount of tries

Did you do it without getting any of the torches?

I got all three because a dude was awesome enough to Sherpa me through all three. But I was still getting one shot by his beam thing.

Also I noticed on his stage there are three bonfires and one of them go out. What do they do exactly?
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Touch posted...

TheMarthKoopa posted...

Touch posted...

Jesus that Umi Buzo motherfucker took a a mad amount of tries

Did you do it without getting any of the torches?

I got all three because a dude was awesome enough to Sherpa me through all three. But I was still getting one shot by his beam thing.

Also I noticed on his stage there are three bonfires and one of them go out. What do they do exactly?

You have to light three fires in the stage. Each of them light one of the fires in the boss room.
Small blobs spawn in the boss room and if you light the fires they die instantly.

Also just walk sideways when he charges his beam.
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Ah okay. Good thing we lit all three fires then.
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Also you can ignite your weapon on the torches to deal tons of damage to Umi Buzo with your attacks
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sauceje posted...

Also you can ignite your weapon on the torches to deal tons of damage to Umi Buzo with your attacks

I was tryna do that but for some reason it wouldn't work

At least I know now just in case I co-op and help people on that stage. Thanks!
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