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Full Throttle
03/10/18 12:31:59 AM
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Do you think this murdering elf should be allowed to change his name??


20 y/o Elf, Nehemiah Griego from New Mexico murdered his ENTIRE FAMILY when he was 15 years old and is set to be RELEASED but has filed a motion to CHANGE HIS NAME!!

He filed it in January under "John Doe" requesting to change it as authoritie says he went on a shooting rampage inside his family home in Albuquerque in 2013 and killed his parents, 2 younger sisters, aged 2 and 5 and 9 y/o brother!!

He is scheduled to be a free man on March 20, his 21st birthday as outliend under 2016 Children's Court order that found him to be receptive to treatment and could be sentenced as a juvenile

He had been sentenced as an adult and would have been locked up to 120 years but his lawyer, Matthew Bernstein wrote the name change to "assist him" in avoiding unnecessary recognition once released as well as being able to get a job

In an 11th bid to keep the killer behind bars, Michelle Pato field a motion arguing against the release as she cited "generalized" threats where he made threats to other inmates and posed a threat

But a state police investigation said they didn't uncover any criminal threats made by him during his state custody

Nehemiah told investigators that HE was the one who got threats that came from people who were scared of his release and were trying to block him and said he had no communication with people outside as he does not intend to hurt anyone

He also carries no "resentment" to his family and said "i've moved on. I want to just live my life and i want to be left alone"

In the 2013 grisly murder, he first shot his mother, Sarah in bed as she slept, then woke up his brother Zephania to show him her dead body and then shot him as well. He then went to his sisteer's bedrooms and shot 5 y/o Jael and 2 y/o Angelina. Hours later when his father, Greg came home from work at a homeless shelter, he waited for him in a bathroom and ambushed him.

He said he had "anger issues" and been annoyed with his mom and said he was "abused" at home and suffered a brain injury because of the beatings of his father who was a gang member turned pastor.

Prosecutors said he should have been tried as an adult because it was a premeditated murder and expressed no rermorse.

He was diagnosed with PTSD and schizo who took medication but no longer need it

His older sisters, Vanessa Lightbourne and Annette Verreault want him to remain IMPRISONED as they fear for their lives from their younger brother

Do you think this Kid should be allowed to change his name??

Nehemiah - Murderer being released

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/03/09/18/49F2D4E200000578-0-image-m-26_1520619208940.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/03/09/18/4A0BA37F00000578-0-image-a-29_1520619244441.jpg

Griego Family - Deceased

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/03/09/18/4A0BA38300000578-0-image-a-27_1520619227955.jpg

Their Home -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/03/09/18/4A0BA37800000578-0-image-a-28_1520619233871.jpg
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DirkDiggles
03/10/18 12:36:03 AM
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6 years for killing his whole family. Jesus freaking Christ.
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Frostshock
03/10/18 12:37:22 AM
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It's not worth the effort or risk to rehabilitate him, why is he still alive?
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pikachupwnage
03/10/18 1:09:53 AM
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Frostshock posted...
It's not worth the effort or risk to rehabilitate him, why is he still alive?


He said he had "anger issues" and been annoyed with his mom and said he was "abused" at home and suffered a brain injury because of the beatings of his father who was a gang member turned pastor.

If this is true...he was a minor, who was abused, had some brain damage and snapped. Assuming that is all true he certainly cant be held fully culpable for his crime given he was underage, abused and the brain damage possibly damaged things like his impulse control.

I dunno if this is the way to go about it all but IDK. Death penalty doesnt seem right in this case.

Also killed his entire family yet he still has living older sisters who want him in jail? Clearly he didnt kill his entire family...
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Lathissamus
03/10/18 1:16:01 AM
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You don't just "change" from such a dark mindset. Not in America's rehabilitation system.
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Ben_Ruggiero
03/10/18 1:19:32 AM
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DirkDiggles posted...
6 years for killing his whole family. Jesus freaking Christ.

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I_Stay_Noided
03/10/18 1:50:20 AM
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at first i thought this was about a story from my area from last year
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GiftedACIII
03/10/18 5:18:29 AM
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This guy is still a massive threat to society. He either needs to be kept locked up or someone needs to take him out because the justice system is once again going to fail innocent people.
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TheRealDill2000
03/12/18 6:38:38 AM
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Frostshock posted...
It's not worth the effort or risk to rehabilitate him, why is he still alive?

Clearly, he has been responsive to rehabilitation efforts. The sentence is longer than I would have liked to see, but this is justice.

I hope that he is granted the name change. After being behind bars for that long, he deserves something close to a clean slate.
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deanshow
03/12/18 6:39:05 AM
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His ass should.never get out
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JE19426
03/12/18 6:47:02 AM
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Frostshock posted...
It's not worth the effort or risk to rehabilitate him, why is he still alive?


Easy. The courts think he is worth the effort and risk to rehabilitate him.
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Cal12
03/12/18 6:48:49 AM
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If the abuse and brain damage caused this how can he ever not be a risk to others? Eventually someone will trigger him emotionally. But only 6 years for killing 5 people in a premeditated fashion? That is a miscarriage of justice. He woke his brother up to show him his dead mother before killing him. That is beyond a little brain damage and abuse.
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Frostshock
03/12/18 6:51:15 AM
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JE19426 posted...
Frostshock posted...
It's not worth the effort or risk to rehabilitate him, why is he still alive?


Easy. The courts think he is worth the effort and risk to rehabilitate him.


Courts are unfortunately run by humans and occasionally make stupid decisions like this.

Though at least half the blame lies on the legislators who failed to ensure that scenarios like this resulted in an immediate forfeiture of life.
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Ruvan22
03/12/18 10:30:59 AM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
Frostshock posted...
It's not worth the effort or risk to rehabilitate him, why is he still alive?

Clearly, he has been responsive to rehabilitation efforts. The sentence is longer than I would have liked to see, but this is justice.

I hope that he is granted the name change. After being behind bars for that long, he deserves something close to a clean slate.


How did you conclude that he was responsive to rehabilitation efforts?
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Coffeebeanz
03/12/18 10:33:59 AM
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He killed five people and got six years

I mean

What
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TheRealDill2000
03/12/18 12:20:30 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
Frostshock posted...
It's not worth the effort or risk to rehabilitate him, why is he still alive?

Clearly, he has been responsive to rehabilitation efforts. The sentence is longer than I would have liked to see, but this is justice.

I hope that he is granted the name change. After being behind bars for that long, he deserves something close to a clean slate.


How did you conclude that he was responsive to rehabilitation efforts?

It was implied in the OP.
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D-Qwon
03/12/18 12:22:26 PM
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He killed his entire family and only did 6 years? It's shit like this why people say the justice system doesn't work.
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Teddytalks
03/12/18 12:27:30 PM
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D-Qwon posted...
He killed his entire family and only did 6 years? It's shit like this why people say the justice system doesn't work.


Meh. There are greater threats to society on this society.

Let put the man on parole for the rest of his life and allow a name change. It is about time we actually let the justice system do some good.
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Offworlder1
03/12/18 12:28:03 PM
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D-Qwon posted...
He killed his entire family and only did 6 years? It's shit like this why people say the justice system doesn't work.


Yes it is, and I hope he gets real punishment when he is released along with his name change.
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Ruvan22
03/12/18 7:19:22 PM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
Frostshock posted...
It's not worth the effort or risk to rehabilitate him, why is he still alive?

Clearly, he has been responsive to rehabilitation efforts. The sentence is longer than I would have liked to see, but this is justice.

I hope that he is granted the name change. After being behind bars for that long, he deserves something close to a clean slate.


How did you conclude that he was responsive to rehabilitation efforts?

It was implied in the OP.


What in the OP implied that he has been "responsive to rehabilitation efforts"?
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Guerrilla Soldier
03/12/18 7:25:40 PM
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lol duckbear
his older sisters, lol
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Dustin1280
03/12/18 7:31:02 PM
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No fuck this...

He killed his entire damn family. I don't care WHAT your issues are, but I certainly would't want him in my neighborhood.
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zinezinzadan
03/12/18 8:01:24 PM
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DirkDiggles posted...
6 years for killing his whole family. Jesus freaking Christ.

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Kanaya413
03/12/18 8:10:18 PM
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Why you calling him an elf though I don't get it
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chrono625
03/12/18 8:21:26 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
said he was "abused" at home and suffered a brain injury because of the beatings of his father who was a gang member turned pastor.


Ehhhhh...

Full Throttle posted...
He then went to his sisteer's bedrooms and shot 5 y/o Jael and 2 y/o Angelina.


Should be rotting in prison. He was 15, not a child.
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KingCrabCake
03/12/18 8:23:59 PM
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See this is why the death penalty should be used often. PoS shouldnt be breathing
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Dark_SilverX
03/12/18 8:28:18 PM
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dude's full of shit. lock his ass back up. mexico has a joke justice system anyway. their law enforcement are cooperating with drug traffickers, so what the fuck.
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chrono625
03/12/18 8:39:55 PM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
dude's full of shit. lock his ass back up. mexico has a joke justice system anyway. their law enforcement are cooperating with drug traffickers, so what the fuck.


There's NEW Mexico now ya know.
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Offworlder1
03/13/18 3:42:48 PM
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He should have gotten the death penalty and been gotten rid of like the garbage he is.
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kingdrake2
03/13/18 3:57:11 PM
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Offworlder1 posted...
He should have gotten the death penalty and been gotten rid of like the garbage he is.

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MangaFan462
03/13/18 3:59:03 PM
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ABQ sucks ass, we have the most lenient liberal judges ever.
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Dyinglegacy
03/13/18 4:27:34 PM
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He killed little babies, man. Don't care about his mental state, keep him in there forever.
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Endofall
03/15/18 3:23:58 AM
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chrono625 posted...
Ehhhhh...

Yeah, should've only retaliated against the father
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Flintgrandad
03/17/18 5:30:55 AM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
Frostshock posted...
It's not worth the effort or risk to rehabilitate him, why is he still alive?

Clearly, he has been responsive to rehabilitation efforts. The sentence is longer than I would have liked to see, but this is justice.

I hope that he is granted the name change. After being behind bars for that long, he deserves something close to a clean slate.

Man, I hope karma hits you personally sometime.
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Viola
03/17/18 11:52:07 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
Vanessa Lightbourne

sad story but on a positive note, that's a cool last name
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JayceeTHUNDER
03/17/18 11:58:09 PM
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DirkDiggles posted...
6 years for killing his whole family. Jesus freaking Christ.

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Ving_Rhames
03/17/18 11:59:13 PM
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He'll be back in prison within a year. Hopefully for good, but unfortunately that means there will be another victim.
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Zikten
03/18/18 12:01:53 AM
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Even if he was abused that is no excuse to kill his siblings.
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SpreadManning
03/18/18 12:02:20 AM
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What the fuck? people get way harsher sentences for much lesser crimes.
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KingCrabCake
03/18/18 3:59:59 PM
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I read about this case this morning.
.he's definitely going to harm someone again
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TheRealDill2000
03/19/18 7:18:32 AM
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KingCrabCake posted...
I read about this case this morning.
.he's definitely going to harm someone again


Full Throttle posted...
2016 Children's Court order that found him to be receptive to treatment

I doubt it. He's never going to get a proper 2nd chance if we keep making negative assumptions about what will happen.
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BalloonBattle05
03/19/18 7:29:50 AM
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Offworlder1 posted...
He should have gotten the death penalty and been gotten rid of like the garbage he is.

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KingCrabCake
03/19/18 8:43:27 AM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
I read about this case this morning.
.he's definitely going to harm someone again


Full Throttle posted...
2016 Children's Court order that found him to be receptive to treatment

I doubt it. He's never going to get a proper 2nd chance if we keep making negative assumptions about what will happen.

Hes gonnna kill or injure someone. Dude is an A1 psycho
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TheRealDill2000
03/19/18 8:58:15 AM
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KingCrabCake posted...

Hes gonnna kill or injure someone. Dude is an A1 psycho

...or he's going to live a normal life like he deserves after serving his time.
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KingCrabCake
03/19/18 9:05:48 AM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...

Hes gonnna kill or injure someone. Dude is an A1 psycho

...or he's going to live a normal life like he deserves after serving his time.

Lol no no he's not and no he doesn't deserve it. Low bait bro
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gmanthebest
03/19/18 9:17:04 AM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...

Hes gonnna kill or injure someone. Dude is an A1 psycho

...or he's going to live a normal life like he deserves after serving his time.

Low quality bait
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voldothegr8
03/19/18 9:17:41 AM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...

Hes gonnna kill or injure someone. Dude is an A1 psycho

...or he's going to live a normal life like he deserves after serving his time.

Nah he gonna murder someone else before the year is over. It's not a matter of if it's a matter of when.
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Ammonitida
03/19/18 9:20:37 AM
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gmanthebest posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...

Hes gonnna kill or injure someone. Dude is an A1 psycho

...or he's going to live a normal life like he deserves after serving his time.

Low quality bait


Juveniles have low recidivism rates, particularly those convicted of domestic murders.

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=3943187

That ruling relies on the most recent research on the adolescent brain, which indicates the juvenile brain is still maturing in the teen years and reasoning and judgment are developing well into the early to mid 20s. It is often cited as state lawmakers consider scaling back punitive juvenile justice laws passed during the 1990s.
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NibeIungsnarf
03/19/18 9:22:06 AM
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Zikten posted...
Even if he was abused that is no excuse to kill his siblings.

Harsh words from Zikten
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