Current Events > Someone just shared this on my FB about men. Please give me your thoughts.

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Veggeta X posted...

NotTurbamsALT posted...

I actually do all those things except own a gun

What happened to your main.

Got warned.

Someone posted a topic about a sex doll and my post was "Drop the link, son."
I guess I should have specified that I was joking :^V
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Your account is no longer warned.
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Oh I thought it was 7 pm, good to know!
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Esrac posted...

I kinda roll my eyes at people who accuse this kind of endorsement for traditional masculinity as being insecure.

It indicates a bit of insecurity because things like this aren't written to make people more manly. They're written to convince people who already do these things that they truly are manly and that society isn't passing them by, even when in some ways it is. It bashes people for wearing skinny jeans and shaving their chest, but some of those men are doing that because it makes them more appealing to women. Same with being clean shaven or not being the kind of defensive person who views every guy who talks to their girlfriend as being a potential threat.
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If following that is manly, I'll gladly sign up for a vagina.
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Pepys Monster posted...

Anteaterking posted...

Pepys Monster posted...

Eating meat isn't manly. It's cruelty.

I think you maybe don't understand what being manly is. Cruelty is part of it.

No. A real man does whats right and protects others.

Yes, but humans are omnivores. We have literally evolved to eat both animal meat and plant life. Our food industries implement standards for killing in a humane way, although some sensitive people might argue that all killing is inherently cruel.
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Is that you, John Wayne? Is this me?
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Krojen posted...

carry a knife/protect your lady

Pepys Monster posted...

No. A real man does whats right and protects others.

Patchwork posted...

and stand up for what you believe in.

Are you guys video game protagonists in a cliche jrpg or somethong?
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Our food industries implement standards for killing in a humane way,

lmfao

im a meat eater but cmon. nothing about it is humane.
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Mist_Turnips posted...

Krojen posted...

carry a knife/protect your lady

Pepys Monster posted...

No. A real man does whats right and protects others.

Patchwork posted...

and stand up for what you believe in.

Are you guys video game protagonists in a cliche jrpg or somethong?

Yes.
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It's so ridiculous.
Victim complex about being a dying breed? Check.
"Wahh, I can't just hit people."
Don't get the hate about shaving your chest. Most women don't have strong opinions on it unless you're in high school.
Also, skinny jeans make your legs and ass look great. Same guys who complain about them probably wear cargo pants.
"I'm a big strong man and I must be a protector and a provider. Fuck women they can't do those things."
"Also, fuck you if you're gay. You're not a manly man."
"If you don't have kids you're not a real man."
Muh beard. Muh boots. Muh steak. Muh knife. Muh gun. What is this, a fucking meme of a man? Why not include bacon too?

Anteaterking posted...

Esrac posted...

I kinda roll my eyes at people who accuse this kind of endorsement for traditional masculinity as being insecure.

It indicates a bit of insecurity because things like this aren't written to make people more manly. They're written to convince people who already do these things that they truly are manly and that society isn't passing them by, even when in some ways it is. It bashes people for wearing skinny jeans and shaving their chest, but some of those men are doing that because it makes them more appealing to women. Same with being clean shaven or not being the kind of defensive person who views every guy who talks to their girlfriend as being a potential threat.

I don't think that's indicative of insecurity. It's saying "it's okay for men to be this way and they SHOULD act this way, because it's right and important". And yeah, it does bash the men who shave too much and wear skinny jeans as effeminate.

The post isn't about being more appealing to women, it's expressing what the author thinks men should be like and how society seems to be shitting on that.

And every straight man who talks to your wife or girlfriend is a potential threat. But the emphasis should be on the word "potential".
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metralo posted...

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Our food industries implement standards for killing in a humane way,

lmfao

im a meat eater but cmon. nothing about it is humane.

Honestly, meant to put in humane to a degree or something similar. Anyway, agree to disagree. Shit could be a lot worse if companies werent worried about boycotts and such.
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Esrac posted...

The post isn't about being more appealing to women, it's expressing what the author thinks men should be like and how society seems to be s***ting on that.

We are making fun of the author's opinion.

Esrac posted...

And every straight man who talks to your wife or girlfriend is a potential threat. But the emphasis should be on the word "potential".

LMAO

Esrac posted...

I don't think that's indicative of insecurity.

When you share memes about why "men aren't allowed to be men anymore" on Facebook, you're a little insecure. Nobody cares about how other people choose to live unless it hurts someone.
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Personally I don't enjoy having a hairy face/body, *I* find it ugly-looking, don't care what anyone else thinks. Only need to worry about shaving my face though, as nobody is going to be seeing the rest of my body anytime soon.

The rest of the image is irrelevant to me, as I barely have any family left, don't care to ever have a wife and children, and was never interested in owning weapons.
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BuckVanHammer posted...

Garbage. No on gives a shit how manly or not you are.

Except women.
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UrCa1988 posted...

When you share memes about why "men aren't allowed to be men anymore" on Facebook, you're a little insecure.

No not really
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Esrac posted...

I don't think that's indicative of insecurity.

the first line is literally making up shit cause he has to feel persecuted
literally no one cares
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Mist_Turnips posted...

Krojen posted...

carry a knife/protect your lady

Are you guys video game protagonists in a cliche jrpg or somethong?

I was quoting the article there. I think the author is a manchild neckbeard.
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I don't hate his message.

I'm fine with eating meat. Just better conditions for the animals.

Protecting your family. Yes.

I don't really hear words against chest hair, beards, or pants that are bigger than skinny these days. Moot. "Wear your boots" as if people are hating on boots? Nobody does this.

Carry a knife. Fine. Own a gun. That's a big debate, but I'm fine with a mentally stable person owning a handgun and being responsible with it.

Now where the issue comes in is...well, women can do this. Maybe not keep their chest hair and beards, but yeah none of this is really specific to men. And if men aren't this, they aren't men they're betacuckwhatever the fucks. That's where the toxic masculinity complaints came from. That if you aren't x-qualities, you're not a man.
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Esrac posted...

The post isn't about being more appealing to women

"You serve as an example of...what young women should seek out in a partner."

Esrac posted...

it's expressing what the author thinks men should be like and how society seems to be s***ting on that.

Whining about what society thinks of masculinity doesn't feel masculine to me.

Esrac posted...

And every straight man who talks to your wife or girlfriend is a potential threat. But the emphasis should be on the word "potential".

They aren't though, because not everyone who talks to a woman is trying to hook up with them. How weak of a relationship do you have to have that basic dialogue threatens the stability of it? Did you just convince your s.o. that you were the only man alive or something?
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Anteaterking posted...

Esrac posted...

I kinda roll my eyes at people who accuse this kind of endorsement for traditional masculinity as being insecure.

It indicates a bit of insecurity because things like this aren't written to make people more manly. They're written to convince people who already do these things that they truly are manly and that society isn't passing them by, even when in some ways it is. It bashes people for wearing skinny jeans and shaving their chest, but some of those men are doing that because it makes them more appealing to women. Same with being clean shaven or not being the kind of defensive person who views every guy who talks to their girlfriend as being a potential threat.

this tbh

it isn't aimed towards making feminine men be masculine

it's aimed towards making masculine men feel better about themselves
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this is the first i'm hearing about the whole chest shaving thing
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There are plenty of women who like manly men

Try farmersonly instead of hipsterbitches.com
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yusiko posted...

NOM posted...

It's all true tbh, but the few women and sissy boys on CE will cause a ruckus about it

and another example of someone who isnt secure in their masculinity
i hope one day you gain the maturity and confidence to be comfortable in your own skin

...You can be secure in your masculinity and still be "hypermasculine".
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pauIie posted...

Now where the issue comes in is...well, women can do this. Maybe not keep their chest hair and beards, but yeah none of this is really specific to men. And if men aren't this, they aren't men they're betacuckwhatever the fucks. That's where the toxic masculinity complaints came from. That if you aren't x-qualities, you're not a man.

yep
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MakoReizei posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

When you share memes about why "men aren't allowed to be men anymore" on Facebook, you're a little insecure.

No not really

yes really

in fact, you refuting that is hilarious because youre obviously very insecure.
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Pepys Monster posted...

Anteaterking posted...

Pepys Monster posted...

Eating meat isn't manly. It's cruelty.

I think you maybe don't understand what being manly is. Cruelty is part of it.

No. A real man does whats right and protects others.

Yes, but humans are omnivores. We have literally evolved to eat both animal meat and plant life. Our food industries implement standards for killing in a humane way, although some sensitive people might argue that all killing is inherently cruel.

We evolved to be opportunistic and eat a lot less meat than we do today. Keeping animals caged in their own feces and pumped with estrogen+antibiotics until they are pushed onto conveyor belts with shock sticks to watch each other hang upside down bleeding to death is not humane. No wonder eating it gives you low t.

It's more manly to stop being a child that's addicted to their milk diet and finally transition to eating your vegetables like an adult. Train hard to be in shape and eat a more nourishing plant based diet to recover like your Roman gladiator ancestors.
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Modern society isn't worth all that effort.

Back in the day being manly guaranteed you middle-class work, a house, and a virginal wife lmao. Nowadays you get... bragging rights?
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He's right, but I'm too far gone on the partner thing. A good feminine boi will beat out the modern woman any day.
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gunplagirl posted...

Whoever wrote that has an ego more fragile than a 1mm thick sheet of ice

This. Lmao; thats a guy who is incredibly insecure.
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What a nice big block of shitty toxic masculinity
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who wrote this, tomi lahren?
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>implying I cant whoop your ass in an alleyway while wearing a pink T-shirt after youve accosted my girl

I shiggy diggy do
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Krojen posted...

We evolved to be opportunistic and eat a lot less meat than we do today. Keeping animals caged in their own feces and pumped with estrogen+antibiotics until they are pushed onto conveyor belts with shock sticks to watch each other hang upside down bleeding to death is not humane. No wonder eating it gives you low t.

It's more manly to stop being a child that's addicted to their milk diet and finally transition to eating your vegetables like an adult. Train hard to be in shape and eat a more nourishing plant based diet to recover like your Roman gladiator ancestors.

Yeah, sadly, we do kill a lot of animals and herd them together inhumanely. I agree with you on those shady practices. Some smaller farms are not so bad, though.

Im not so sure about giving up milk. I suppose that is not natural to drink cows milk, but at least we get calcium. Hmm, yeah, training hard is good.
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Conflict posted...

HBKick18 posted...

What a nice big block of shitty toxic masculinity

This is where the morons come out, scream at you for using "toxic masculinity" thinking it means "masculinity is toxic"

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HBKick18 posted...

What a nice big block of shitty toxic masculinity

There's absolutely nothing toxic about the message.
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Funbazooka posted...

HBKick18 posted...

What a nice big block of shitty toxic masculinity

There's absolutely nothing toxic about the message.

Lol
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Is that all you can say
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Conflict posted...

Funbazooka posted...

Is that all you can say

I mean it's pretty funny that you think 1950s gender roles aren't toxic

this
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Why is hunting meat specifically seen as manly? There are several other ways to provide food that's self-sustainable.

People who think masculine men don't belong in modern society are weird.
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Conflict posted...

Funbazooka posted...

Is that all you can say

I mean it's pretty funny that you think 1950s gender roles aren't toxic

Masculinity crosses generations. Masculinity is ingrained biological instinct and inclination. Masculinity compliments femininity. This isn't a 1950's issue.
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Funbazooka posted...

Masculinity compliments femininity. This isn't a 1950's issue.

Friendly note: I think you mean complement, instead of compliment.

Anyway, I think I agree with the gist of what youre saying. The FB post contains a lot of questionable advice (Skinny jeans?), but some things like defending your spouse and children is probably what men have been doing for more than a hundred thousand years.
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