Current Events > Kentucky Republicans support child marriages.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/714a93c1-2d1f-3937-890e-ebc1828abe68/ss_kentucky-republicans-kill.html

So, about how different those middle east people are...
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Disgusting.
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Kentucky Republicans kill bill to limit child marriage because parents should have right to marry off kids

oh my fucking god

if i said what these people who do this and those that support this should do

I'd be banned

straight up banned
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But those gays? Government employees should refuse them as they see fit.
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It's not just Kentucky
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/child-marriage-in-the-u-s-surprisingly-widespread/

Child marriage is legal in some circumstances in almost every state in the U.S. Though nearly every state has laws barring children under 18 from marrying, there are ways to get exemptions -- for example, by asking for judicial consent or presenting parents' permission, according to the Pew Research Center.

In 27 states, the law does not specify any minimum age below which a child cannot marry, according to Unchained At Last.

Helping children in forced marriages is murky territory for activists and social workers. A child who leaves home under the age of 18 is considered a runaway, meaning that social service organizations and shelters could face legal action for helping them.

Generally, children cannot initiate legal action in their own name. In many states, that means a child is allowed to marry but not allowed to divorce.

National forced marriage statistics are hard to come by. In a survey of marriage licenses compiled by Unchained At Last, at least 167,000 children under 18 were married in the U.S. between 2000 and 2010. (That number is likely on the conservative side, as Unchained At Last could obtain age data from only 38 U.S. states.)

The vast majority of those children were girls married off to adult men, Reiss said.

Child marriage is most common in the southern United States, according to the Pew Research Center. It's most common in West Virginia and Texas, followed by states like Oklahoma, Arkansas, Tennessee, North Carolina, Nevada and California.

Chris Christie vetoed NJ's attempt to ban child marriage last year
https://www.politico.com/states/new-jersey/story/2017/05/11/ban-on-child-marriages-conditionally-vetoed-by-christie-111987
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Antifar posted...

Chris Christie vetoed NJ's attempt to ban child marriage last year
https://www.politico.com/states/new-jersey/story/2017/05/11/ban-on-child-marriages-conditionally-vetoed-by-christie-111987

how is this even remotely a question

your CHILD is not a THING that you can just FORCE to MARRY SOMEONE

THEY ARE A PERSON

oh my fucking god
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wackyteen posted...

Kentucky Republicans kill bill to limit child marriage because parents should have right to marry off kids

oh my fucking god

if i said what these people who do this and those that support this should do

I'd be banned

straight up banned

That's not a phrasing in the article, that's something the article writer made up to demonize people he disagrees with instead of providing an argument against their point, like all good journalists do.

The modest bill would not totally ban child marriages, but would require a judge to review records to make sure that the child was not the victim of abuse, that there are not domestic violence incident involving either party and that the adult is not a registered sex-offender. The bill would require that the judge deny the right to marry if there was a pregnancy that resulted from the adult spouse molesting the child.

This bothered Kentucky Republicans, including state Sen. John Schickel of Boone County, which includes suburbs of Cincinnati.

I had some problems with the bill, he said. Decisions involving a minor child should be made by a parent, not the court.

Kentucky has the third-highest rate of child marriages in the nation, according to the Tahirir Womens Justice Center.

MAGA
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Remember, only blind partisans criticize one party over another.
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wackyteen posted...

how is this even remotely a question

your CHILD is not a THING that you can just FORCE to MARRY SOMEONE

THEY ARE A PERSON

oh my fucking god

I really don't think you're allowed to force your child to marry someone.

NibeIungsnarf posted...

wackyteen posted...

Kentucky Republicans kill bill to limit child marriage because parents should have right to marry off kids

oh my fucking god

if i said what these people who do this and those that support this should do

I'd be banned

straight up banned

That's not a phrasing in the article, that's something the article writer made up to demonize people he disagrees with instead of providing an argument against their point, like all good journalists do.

"Fuck you" is the only proper argument to idiotic points. Even that might be debasing, but less so than entertaining it as legitimate.
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Intro2Logic posted...

Remember, only blind partisans criticize one party over another.

Planned Parenthood is against banning child marriage.

NibeIungsnarf posted...

That's not a phrasing in the article, that's something the article writer made up to demonize people he disagrees with instead of providing an argument against their point, like all good journalists do.

I had some problems with the bill, he said. Decisions involving a minor child should be made by a parent, not the court.

You sure bro?
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A_Good_Boy posted...

I had some problems with the bill, he said. Decisions involving a minor child should be made by a parent, not the court.

decisions should definitely be made by the court.
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Gays just need to start forcing gay marriage on children. Thatll stop child marriages in that state

A_Good_Boy posted...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

That's not a phrasing in the article, that's something the article writer made up to demonize people he disagrees with instead of providing an argument against their point, like all good journalists do.

I had some problems with the bill, he said. Decisions involving a minor child should be made by a parent, not the court.

You sure bro?

Yes. Anyone, especially awful journalists, can take any quote (well, some quotes) and make it seem like it supports their narrative when it doesn't.

Just looking at the quote what I think the objector (I think it was a state senator?) is saying is that if for instance his underage daughter wants to marry her boyfriend then he and her mother should be the instance that allows it or disallows it, not the courts.

It absolutely does not seem to suggest that he wants to marry off his daughters or give people the right to do so.

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Just looking at the quote what I think the objector (I think it was a state senator?) is saying is that if for instance his underage daughter wants to marry her boyfriend then he and her mother should be the instance that allows it or disallows it, not the courts.

As a parent you should be telling your child to wait, and to not rush into something
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wackyteen posted...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Just looking at the quote what I think the objector (I think it was a state senator?) is saying is that if for instance his underage daughter wants to marry her boyfriend then he and her mother should be the instance that allows it or disallows it, not the courts.

As a parent you should be telling your child to wait, and to not rush into something

How is that a relevant comment to anything?

It's not relevant to what marriage rights a child should have and it's not relevant to what I was talking about and it's not relevant to your previous posts overreacting without understanding what is being said.

Intro2Logic posted...

Remember, only blind partisans criticize one party over another.

They both suck, but one is normally worse than the other. There, happy?
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

How is that a relevant comment to anything?

It's not relevant to what marriage rights a child should have and it's not relevant to what I was talking about and it's not relevant to your previous posts overreacting without understanding what is being said.

Okay.

A child should not have the right to enter a marriage, unless a court has supervised that, at minimum, both sides:

Are in agreeance
That no abuse is taking place
That neither side is being rushed or forced into the agreement for financial gain (i.e. my son will marry your daughter and I will enter into a business deal with you)
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wackyteen posted...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

How is that a relevant comment to anything?

It's not relevant to what marriage rights a child should have and it's not relevant to what I was talking about and it's not relevant to your previous posts overreacting without understanding what is being said.

Okay.

A child should not have the right to enter a marriage, unless a court has supervised that, at minimum, both sides:

Are in agreeance
That no abuse is taking place
That neither side is being rushed or forced into the agreement for financial gain (i.e. my son will marry your daughter and I will enter into a business deal with you)

That's certainly a seemingly reasonable viewpoint and a pretty decent post apart from that tacked on bit at the end that suggests people are selling their children into sex slavery in the heart of Kansas for financial business ties, which, as we just discussed, is just a fiction invented by a moronic journalist.

So let's just say it's .75 of a decent post, which means you're 1.75 out of 5 for this topic.

Well done!

Republicans are actually evil btw

Democrats are just kinda dumb
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

that tacked on bit at the end that suggests people are selling their children into sex slavery in the heart of Kansas for financial business ties, which, as we just discussed, is just a fiction invented by a moronic journalist.

I'm not even saying it happens

But give some people an inch and they'll take the whole cake.

Plus, if two children are so set bound and determined that they're meant for each other, I don't think asking them to get a courts approval is too much to ask. If that is what makes the engagement falls apart, it wasn't meant to be in the first place.
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