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NES4EVER
03/02/18 9:34:48 PM
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Donald "Duterte" trump
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Drumpf
03/02/18 9:41:09 PM
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I'm a tobacco addict. He can fuck off. Legalize weed too
Yeah, punish the heroin cartels, but cmon
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KingCrabCake
03/02/18 9:46:16 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
We can't use other countries as a model for healthcare but we can absolutely use them as a model for killing our own citizens.

U use it all the time
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CaptainCrunch
03/02/18 9:47:09 PM
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I don't really care about drugs one way or the other, my issue here is the death penalty. Is Trump aware of just how much a horrible failure the death penalty is in this country? Anyone wanna tweet the average amount of time a prisoner spends on death row prior to execution (15 years) to this guy? Wasn't he just talking about changing how food stamps work to save money? I thought he was supposed to be a business man, how can he not see how much money we waste on death row inmates?

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iClockwork
03/02/18 9:47:16 PM
#55:


Flintgrandad posted...
I thought you were against the death penalty. You didn't want it for child raping murderers or mass shooters.

I never said took a stance against the death penalty. Nice deflection though.
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SoundNetwork
03/02/18 9:48:14 PM
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foreveraIone
03/02/18 9:49:00 PM
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NES4EVER posted...
Donald "Duterte" trump

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KingCrabCake
03/02/18 9:57:46 PM
#58:


muchdran posted...
Don't sell drugs then. What's the problem?


Idk somehow its racist
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KingCrabCake
03/02/18 9:58:45 PM
#59:


CaptainCrunch posted...
I don't really care about drugs one way or the other, my issue here is the death penalty. Is Trump aware of just how much a horrible failure the death penalty is in this country? Anyone wanna tweet the average amount of time a prisoner spends on death row prior to execution (15 years) to this guy? Wasn't he just talking about changing how food stamps work to save money? I thought he was supposed to be a business man, how can he not see how much money we waste on death row inmates?

Christ


Maybe we should fix that? Only reason people are on death row for so long is because of appeals. Shit is ridiculous
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Capn Circus
03/02/18 10:10:25 PM
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The "level" of the dealer would be of importance to me for my consideration. Many lower level "dealers" are also addicts---but the ones towards the top, orchestrating the markets, are ruthless, lawless piles of ****.
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Questionmarktarius
03/02/18 10:10:58 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
but the ones towards the top, orchestrating the markets, are ruthless, lawless piles of ****.

So.... that EpiPen guy?
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Capn Circus
03/02/18 10:20:23 PM
#62:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Capn Circus posted...
but the ones towards the top, orchestrating the markets, are ruthless, lawless piles of ****.

So.... that EpiPen guy?


I'm not sure what you're referring to.
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Flintgrandad
03/02/18 10:24:00 PM
#63:


iClockwork posted...
Flintgrandad posted...
I thought you were against the death penalty. You didn't want it for child raping murderers or mass shooters.

I never said took a stance against the death penalty. Nice deflection though.


iClockwork posted...
boxington posted...
pretty low to troll about a tragedy like this

Nobodys trolling dude. Literally a person made a terrible decision and it will cost him his life to. This in no way takes away from the victims and honestly it kinda makes me just as sick that people fetishize punishment.

Fetishizing punishment is a term people generally use when they're against the death penalty. So you make yourself sick by fetishizing punishment for drug dealers?
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Questionmarktarius
03/02/18 10:24:08 PM
#64:


Capn Circus posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Capn Circus posted...
but the ones towards the top, orchestrating the markets, are ruthless, lawless piles of ****.

So.... that EpiPen guy?


I'm not sure what you're referring to.

Hold on... I was thinking of something else.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/business/a-huge-overnight-increase-in-a-drugs-price-raises-protests.html
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Sami1000
03/02/18 10:25:28 PM
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Well, idk. There are many dealers i wouldnt feel much empathy for, but someone selling little bit of weed getting death penalty or someone selling some meds on street getting death penalty? Fuck no.
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GiftedACIII
03/02/18 10:27:43 PM
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lmao confirmation that clockwork is just a contrarian.
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Capn Circus
03/02/18 10:28:09 PM
#67:


KingCrabCake posted...
CaptainCrunch posted...
I don't really care about drugs one way or the other, my issue here is the death penalty. Is Trump aware of just how much a horrible failure the death penalty is in this country? Anyone wanna tweet the average amount of time a prisoner spends on death row prior to execution (15 years) to this guy? Wasn't he just talking about changing how food stamps work to save money? I thought he was supposed to be a business man, how can he not see how much money we waste on death row inmates?

Christ


Maybe we should fix that? Only reason people are on death row for so long is because of appeals. Shit is ridiculous


I actually used to be against the death penalty for reasons such as this, but I later realized in most cases, death row inmates are completely isolated and segregated from the general population---as well having more restrictions in their privileges---all at the same time waiting to die. Pretty decent punishment if you ask me.

But yes, I'd change a lot of things regarding cost effectiveness if it were up to me.
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CanuckCowboy
03/02/18 10:34:20 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
And it's also a concept only countries that Trump himself would call shit holes actually employ.


i wouldn't put it past him to call the Philippines a shithole but he openly admires both the tyrant Duterte and his encouragement of vigilante killings of suspected drug dealers and users in the streets


Oh yeah I didn't think about that. Good point.
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Capn Circus
03/02/18 10:36:37 PM
#69:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Capn Circus posted...
but the ones towards the top, orchestrating the markets, are ruthless, lawless piles of ****.

So.... that EpiPen guy?


I'm not sure what you're referring to.

Hold on... I was thinking of something else.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/business/a-huge-overnight-increase-in-a-drugs-price-raises-protests.html


Is it illegal what occurred? I'd rather stick to the topic at hand because there are many things I would change regarding the pharmaceutical industry as a whole. We're one of only two (maybe 3) nations that allow direct to consumer advertising for pharmaceuticals---and they cause great harm to many people. It's a cash cow industry and a racket. It's a very big problem in the U.S. and news agencies can't properly speak out about it because they'll pull the Ads.

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iClockwork
03/02/18 10:37:26 PM
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Flintgrandad posted...
iClockwork posted...
Flintgrandad posted...
I thought you were against the death penalty. You didn't want it for child raping murderers or mass shooters.

I never said took a stance against the death penalty. Nice deflection though.


iClockwork posted...
boxington posted...
pretty low to troll about a tragedy like this

Nobodys trolling dude. Literally a person made a terrible decision and it will cost him his life to. This in no way takes away from the victims and honestly it kinda makes me just as sick that people fetishize punishment.

Fetishizing punishment is a term people generally use when they're against the death penalty. So you make yourself sick by fetishizing punishment for drug dealers?

Yikes look at that terrible attempt at reaching.

So thinking its sad to see other people happy others are dying = anti-death penalty. K.
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Flintgrandad
03/02/18 10:39:37 PM
#71:


iClockwork posted...
Flintgrandad posted...
iClockwork posted...
Flintgrandad posted...
I thought you were against the death penalty. You didn't want it for child raping murderers or mass shooters.

I never said took a stance against the death penalty. Nice deflection though.


iClockwork posted...
boxington posted...
pretty low to troll about a tragedy like this

Nobodys trolling dude. Literally a person made a terrible decision and it will cost him his life to. This in no way takes away from the victims and honestly it kinda makes me just as sick that people fetishize punishment.

Fetishizing punishment is a term people generally use when they're against the death penalty. So you make yourself sick by fetishizing punishment for drug dealers?

Yikes look at that terrible attempt at reaching.

So thinking its sad to see other people happy others are dying = anti-death penalty. K.

You seem to be happy with wanting drug dealers dying.
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iClockwork
03/02/18 10:40:43 PM
#72:


Flintgrandad posted...
You seem to be happy with wanting drug dealers dying.

I'm going to assume you meant dead? No I don't.
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Flintgrandad
03/02/18 10:43:11 PM
#73:


iClockwork posted...
Flintgrandad posted...
You seem to be happy with wanting drug dealers dying.

I'm going to assume you meant dead? No I don't.

So then why else would you want the death penalty for them? since you said yourself it doesn't deter people.
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iClockwork
03/02/18 10:45:48 PM
#74:


Flintgrandad posted...
So then why else would you want the death penalty for them?

I don't.
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Flintgrandad
03/02/18 10:48:19 PM
#75:


iClockwork posted...
Flintgrandad posted...
So then why else would you want the death penalty for them?

I don't.

Is giving the death penalty to drug dealers a good idea?

iClockwork posted...
Yup.

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iClockwork
03/02/18 10:50:15 PM
#76:


Flintgrandad posted...
Is giving the death penalty to drug dealers a good idea?

iClockwork posted...
Yup.

Wasn't in regards to that specific question. Was in regards to drugs being detrimental to society.
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cerealbox760
03/02/18 10:52:46 PM
#77:


fenderbender321 posted...
Boy, Trump is hell bent on pissing off libertarians this week.

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Questionmarktarius
03/02/18 10:54:28 PM
#78:


fenderbender321 posted...
Boy, Trump is hell bent on pissing off libertarians this week.


Populism just does that, for reasons I don't really understand.
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Flintgrandad
03/02/18 10:56:07 PM
#79:


iClockwork posted...
Flintgrandad posted...
Is giving the death penalty to drug dealers a good idea?

iClockwork posted...
Yup.

Wasn't in regards to that specific question. Was in regards to drugs being detrimental to society.

lol nice backpedaling. The topic was about executing drug dealers and no one was talking about drugs being detrimental to society or not before your post but ok.
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iClockwork
03/02/18 11:03:07 PM
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You misinterpreted the statement, its ok. Im allowed to expand on the topic
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FL81
03/02/18 11:07:22 PM
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Flintgrandad
03/02/18 11:07:39 PM
#82:


iClockwork posted...
You misinterpreted the statement, its ok. Im allowed to expand on the topic

This is a really pathetic backpedal
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iClockwork
03/02/18 11:10:28 PM
#83:


Flintgrandad posted...
iClockwork posted...
You misinterpreted the statement, its ok. Im allowed to expand on the topic

This is a really pathetic backpedal

Nobodys backpedaling. I voted no.
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Flintgrandad
03/02/18 11:11:48 PM
#84:


Ok let's see it.
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iClockwork
03/02/18 11:19:00 PM
#85:


Flintgrandad posted...
Ok let's see it.

Meltdown inc.
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TroutPaste
03/02/18 11:19:23 PM
#86:


"Tobacco kills more than 480,000 people annually more than AIDS, alcohol, car accidents, illegal drugs, murders and suicides combined."

Kill tobacco lobbyists
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Flintgrandad
03/02/18 11:20:02 PM
#87:


iClockwork posted...
Flintgrandad posted...
Ok let's see it.

Meltdown inc.

Oof what an embarrassing comment.
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I4NRulez
03/02/18 11:28:02 PM
#88:


So are we gonna apply this to the CIA lmao
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iClockwork
03/02/18 11:30:57 PM
#89:


Flintgrandad posted...
Ok let's see it.


Oof what an embarrassing comment.

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Flintgrandad
03/02/18 11:32:14 PM
#90:


Can't back up your claims so you're having a meltdown huh? That's embarrassing.
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Wutobliteration
03/02/18 11:33:57 PM
#91:


CanuckCowboy posted...
The war on drugs is a fucking incomprehensibly stupid idea from the jump and its been proven for decades.

So obviously its a shit idea. And it's also a concept only countries that Trump himself would call shit holes actually employ.


oh? Singapore is a s***hole now?
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iClockwork
03/02/18 11:37:57 PM
#92:


Flintgrandad posted...
Can't back up your claims

Voting no on a poll is a fact not a claim

Flintgrandad posted...
you're having a meltdown huh?

"Nuh uh, you!"
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DarkProto05
03/02/18 11:41:02 PM
#94:


creativerealms posted...
Using drugs is a choice. Drug dealers should be punished for selling drugs and helping addicts but shouldnt be put to death because some addicts die of overdoses. That would be like putting gun store employees to death for selling weapons that lead to people blowing their brains out.

Wouldn't mind that actually.
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Flintgrandad
03/02/18 11:41:07 PM
#95:


iClockwork posted...
Flintgrandad posted...
Can't back up your claims

Voting no on a poll is a fact not a claim

Flintgrandad posted...
you're having a meltdown huh?

"Nuh uh, you!"

Then let's see it. And lol, so you're making fun of what you just did yourself? Massive meltdown by iclockwork here.
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Wutobliteration
03/02/18 11:42:08 PM
#96:


I love how people can only talk about Philipines while completely ignoring Singapore, the main subject of what Trump is referring to for his inspiration.
Philipines already had a drug problem to begin with, Duterte's clampdown is only very recent and while controversial, also seeing effectiveness.

As for Singapore, the country is pretty much one of the few city countries in the world to have an extremely low crime rate, high economic success and standards and living, zero natural disasters, zero terrorist attacks and ranked HIGHEST in government effectiveness and political stability in the entire world.

https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/wb_government_effectiveness/

meanwhile...*looks at America
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iClockwork
03/02/18 11:44:02 PM
#97:


Flintgrandad posted...
iClockwork posted...
Flintgrandad posted...
Can't back up your claims

Voting no on a poll is a fact not a claim

Flintgrandad posted...
you're having a meltdown huh?

"Nuh uh, you!"

Then let's see it. And lol, so you're making fun of what you just did yourself? Massive meltdown by icockwork here.

RAHHH "Polly want a cracker."

Massive.
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Wutobliteration
03/02/18 11:44:54 PM
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DepreceV2
03/02/18 11:46:09 PM
#99:


How does Trump top his stupidity daily?
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KingCrabCake
03/02/18 11:47:59 PM
#100:


The only good heroin dealer is a dead heroin dealer.
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Flintgrandad
03/02/18 11:48:15 PM
#101:


iClockwork posted...
Flintgrandad posted...
iClockwork posted...
Flintgrandad posted...
Can't back up your claims

Voting no on a poll is a fact not a claim

Flintgrandad posted...
you're having a meltdown huh?

"Nuh uh, you!"

Then let's see it. And lol, so you're making fun of what you just did yourself? Massive meltdown by icockwork here.

RAHHH "Polly want a cracker."

Massive.


Meltdown underway
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