Current Events > Why do dine in Asian restaurants always seem to have poor serving etiquette?

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No racial but pretty much any place I go to always has shit serving/waitress or waiter service

For example: inattentive and only show up to take an order and bring food without checking in here and there to make sure youre satisfied

Is it because Asian culture doesnt believe in tipping?
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__Stewa__ posted...

Is it because Asian culture doesnt believe in tipping?

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because you were expecting everyone in that restaurant to adhere and subscribe to your way of doing things

it's literally the reason why you think they're rude

if you went in, like me, with the mindset that these people probably share their tips and aren't like regular american servers, you wouldn't be so upset

certain americans expect to be pampered at every turn lmfao
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JustMyOpinion posted...

Imagine claiming this isn't racial.

Yeah.

Anyway.
Ive never had problems. Any time I gi to one everyone is super nice to me and Ive even gotten extra rice or free egg rolls before.
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__Stewa__ posted...

For example: inattentive and only show up to take an order and bring food without checking in here and there to make sure youre satisfied

What are you talking about, that's perfect

Waiters should get me my food and go the fuck away so I can enjoy it.

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

because you were expecting everyone in that restaurant to adhere and subscribe to your way of doing things

it's literally the reason why you think they're rude

if you went in, like me, with the mindset that these people probably share their tips and aren't like regular american servers, you wouldn't be so upset

certain americans expect to be pampered at every turn lmfao

Is there something wrong with expecting to have a drink refilled at a restaurant without hunting down the server? It's not hard to be attentive, particularly if you're only serving one or two tables and not 5.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

because you were expecting everyone in that restaurant to adhere and subscribe to your way of doing things

it's literally the reason why you think they're rude

if you went in, like me, with the mindset that these people probably share their tips and aren't like regular american servers, you wouldn't be so upset

certain americans expect to be pampered at every turn lmfao

What about if you order water or something and its never brought/refilled?
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There was one here that I was a regular. One girl even got me a few beautiful pairs of chopsticks from China. Always attentive and super nice. Sad when they closed T_T
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__Stewa__ posted...

What about if you order water or something and its never brought/refilled?

Then that's just poor service lmfao

no lie i had that response ready (i basically say the same thing when people ask these things)

your real answer is here

Anisoptera posted...

They are usually family owned so they don't have to deal with secret shoppers or regional managers keeping them in check. They let you know that they won't put up your petty demands and special orders.

w/ some salt
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

if you went in, like me, with the mindset that these people probably share their tips and aren't like regular american servers, you wouldn't be so upset

Bartenders often share their tips. Blackjack dealers share their tips---and most provide friendly/competent service as well.

The more attentive, the larger tip pool to share.
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...

What are you talking about, that's perfect

Waiters should get me my food and go the fuck away so I can enjoy it.

this.

asian restaurants are awesome since they only care about bringing food and removing dishes once you're done and don't really give a damn about stroking your delicate snowflakey ego.

you want something, you just grab the nearest waiter walking by or ask them when they're removing/bringing another dish by.
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The only ones that bother me are the ones at buffets that will hand you the check at the end and then stare directly at you while you put down a tip because they have no idea how rude they're being.
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Not really been a problem for me. Even had Chinese for lunch today. Took my order quickly and had the meal ready in like 10 min. Didnt need much extra besides one water refill and didnt wait for long for that

7.80 bill, paid 10 and left the rest for a tip

Capn Circus posted...

Bartenders often share their tips. Blackjack dealers share their tips---and most provide friendly/competent service as well.

The more attentive, the larger tip pool to share.

yeah but if Rick wasn't pulling his weight that night, why should he receive equal or more tips (if he worked more etc)

that's a bad system, nobody I've ever worked with or talked to in the food service industry likes it
they'd all prefer to take their own tips home because they don't like that Rachel is taking a bigger keep even tho she did less
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__Stewa__ posted...

No racial but

This is the number one give away that this is in fact racial
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If a restaurant is going to tip share, I'd rather they just pay the staff minimum wage. The purpose of a tip is to reward excellent service and allows hard working servers to make quite a bit more than lazy ones.
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Western restaurants feel like the servers hover around too much. As long as they're bringing food, taking away empty plates, taking orders correctly, and aren't rude, that's enough for me.
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Capn Circus posted...

Is there something wrong with expecting to have a drink refilled at a restaurant without hunting down the server?

this is the problem with you folks lmfao me telling you something is DIFFERENT doesn't mean another thing is WRONG
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Because theyre mom and pop spots not retail chains are worried about national headline disasters.

That said everyone Ive been too has polite staff and do check on you. Maybe not to the level of an Applebees or whatever but they also dont spend millions to train their staff to act a certain way. Just be nice and bring them their food. Thats all that matters in the end.
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I go to a LOT of Asian restaurants actually and Ive never had rude service
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so im starting to think that TC didn't just have a water go without refill

what else happened on this experience
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Interrupting your meal = good service? Fuck that.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

Capn Circus posted...

Bartenders often share their tips. Blackjack dealers share their tips---and most provide friendly/competent service as well.

The more attentive, the larger tip pool to share.

yeah but if Rick wasn't pulling his weight that night, why should he receive equal or more tips (if he worked more etc)

that's a bad system, nobody I've ever worked with or talked to in the food service industry likes it
they'd all prefer to take their own tips home because they don't like that Rachel is taking a bigger keep even tho she did less

I agree, there are some downsides. But in the circumstances I've mentioned, it's more necessary and convenient because multiple people are generally serving the tipping party/individual.

People tip differently in bars and casinos. In bars, for instance, some tip per drink and some tip at the end. Why should the bartender who closes out the tab get the $30 tip, but all they did was serve the last drink and close the tab out? Bars can be busy and it's inconvenient to wait for a specific bartender to serve you a drink just because you opened your tab with them.

Why should the blackjack dealer who just took over for another dealer get to keep the $25 chip he gives them after deciding to leave from the table and take a break?
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Anytime I go to my local Chinese joint (its obviously Chinese American food but its legit all owned and operated by an extended Chinese family that covers all the operations) the waitresses are almost overly attentive.
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This is actually a case of cultural differences. This is the norm in Asian restaurants. Usually, it's not even "one server for one group of customers". It's any server that's available for every customer and the customers are expected to ask if they want something.
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GiftedACIII posted...

This is actually a case of cultural differences. This is the norm in Asian restaurants. Usually, it's not even "one server for one group of customers". It's any server that's available for every customer and the customers are expected to ask if they want something.

Yea this is how Korea is. Most places have buttons on the tables you can buzz and your table number flashes on a LED sign so the wait-staff know where to go for whatever you need.
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Capn Circus posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

because you were expecting everyone in that restaurant to adhere and subscribe to your way of doing things

it's literally the reason why you think they're rude

if you went in, like me, with the mindset that these people probably share their tips and aren't like regular american servers, you wouldn't be so upset

certain americans expect to be pampered at every turn lmfao

Is there something wrong with expecting to have a drink refilled at a restaurant without hunting down the server? It's not hard to be attentive, particularly if you're only serving one or two tables and not 5.

They just don't do that in Asian restaurants. It's also not rude for you to yell to get their attention, like it is in the US.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

so im starting to think that TC didn't just have a water go without refill

what else happened on this experience

1. Water
2. Ordered pot stickers for appetizer, ramen for main meal
3. Never got water but got the ramen and when asked again still no water
4. Pot stickers dont show up til after my brother and I finished our ramen
5. Asked for check but didnt get it til about 10 mins later

Mind you there were like 6 parties altogether including us and like 3 servers/waiters.
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cultural differences.

they just want things streamlined.

not this shit where you treat every customer like a special snowflake
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Trayvon posted...

cultural differences.

they just want things streamlined.

not this shit where you treat every customer like a special snowflake

So if this is the case then it should be ok not to tip bc cultural differences right?
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__Stewa__ posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

so im starting to think that TC didn't just have a water go without refill

what else happened on this experience

1. Water
2. Ordered pot stickers for appetizer, ramen for main meal
3. Never got water but got the ramen and when asked again still no water
4. Pot stickers dont show up til after my brother and I finished our ramen
5. Asked for check but didnt get it til about 10 mins later

Mind you there were like 6 parties altogether including us and like 3 servers/waiters.

Unless this happens every time you go there I'd just chalk it up to a weird night

But yeah sometimes they really don't gaf and figure people who will come will come back anyway
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__Stewa__ posted...

Trayvon posted...

cultural differences.

they just want things streamlined.

not this shit where you treat every customer like a special snowflake

So if this is the case then it should be ok not to tip bc cultural differences right?

Give what you think they deserve.
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Trayvon posted...

cultural differences.

they just want things streamlined.

not this shit where you treat every customer like a special snowflake

I've always tipped on efficiency over friendliness. I'm eating and or drinking. Not making friends. I actually like that many of the Asian restaurants I go to are the former and not the latter. Because fake friendliness or giving me attention (Hooters or Twin Peaks kinds of places) isn't what I want. I want my meal or keep the beers coming. That'll get you a good tip and/or get me to return.
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__Stewa__ posted...

Trayvon posted...

cultural differences.

they just want things streamlined.

not this shit where you treat every customer like a special snowflake

So if this is the case then it should be ok not to tip bc cultural differences right?

Not sure about the rest of East Asia, but it's considered rude to tip in Korea.
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__Stewa__ posted...

Trayvon posted...

cultural differences.

they just want things streamlined.

not this shit where you treat every customer like a special snowflake

So if this is the case then it should be ok not to tip bc cultural differences right?

In those instances where you get multiple different servers who are you going to tip to?
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The only that irks me is when you finish your water/drink and they never come by to refill it.
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I always get good service at the Chinese place I go to but that's because I used to go there like 3 times a week so the manager knows me
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Kastrada posted...

__Stewa__ posted...

Trayvon posted...

cultural differences.

they just want things streamlined.

not this shit where you treat every customer like a special snowflake

So if this is the case then it should be ok not to tip bc cultural differences right?

Not sure about the rest of East Asia, but it's considered rude to tip in Korea.

Don't tip in Japan either. My mum forgot once and one of the servers actually ran out of the building to give the money back.
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Kastrada posted...

__Stewa__ posted...

Trayvon posted...

cultural differences.

they just want things streamlined.

not this shit where you treat every customer like a special snowflake

So if this is the case then it should be ok not to tip bc cultural differences right?

Not sure about the rest of East Asia, but it's considered rude to tip in Korea.

Good thing we live in America and not Korea

It's almost like we're talking about non Americans wow
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

Kastrada posted...

__Stewa__ posted...

Trayvon posted...

cultural differences.

they just want things streamlined.

not this shit where you treat every customer like a special snowflake

So if this is the case then it should be ok not to tip bc cultural differences right?

Not sure about the rest of East Asia, but it's considered rude to tip in Korea.

Good thing we live in America and not Korea

It's almost like we're talking about non Americans wow

I don't know why you have to be an ass. The TC was just asking about cultural differences. In the Korean (and apparently Japanese culture), it's rude to tip. It's not unfathomable that East Asian restaurants run by the older generations would still have those cultural values...
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because we're not talking about koreans in korea or japanese in japan

idk if you're doing it on purpose but that's what you're doing
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I don't like people who help continue "perpetual foreigner syndrome"
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Hey man, if you leave a good tip, theyll remember you as a good tipper and thatll lead to better service.
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They counterweigh the dollar value of their meals (generally better in comparison to other restaurants in the area) and expediency of their readiness with staff that are underpaid, overworked, and often have their tips poached. So the staff doesn't have any incentive to go above and beyond for you.

Don't support their business model.
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Capn Circus posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

if you went in, like me, with the mindset that these people probably share their tips and aren't like regular american servers, you wouldn't be so upset

Bartenders often share their tips. Blackjack dealers share their tips---and most provide friendly/competent service as well.

The more attentive, the larger tip pool to share.

and min wage workers dont get tips. yet they dont take it out on the customers. tipping is stupid.
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Junkratprime03 posted...

They counterweigh the dollar value of their meals (generally better in comparison to other restaurants in the area) and expediency of their readiness with staff that are underpaid, overworked, and often have their tips poached. So the staff doesn't have any incentive to go above and beyond for you.

Don't support their business model.

TBH I didn't want to say it but this is also often the case
Generally places like that also have shitty food and are probably fronts for drugs or human trafficking (seriously)
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Because dine-in Asian restaurants are usually run by a freshly immigrated couple of generations and their food is too goddamn good to care about the service. Youll be back.
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It's an ethnic thing IMO
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

Junkratprime03 posted...

They counterweigh the dollar value of their meals (generally better in comparison to other restaurants in the area) and expediency of their readiness with staff that are underpaid, overworked, and often have their tips poached. So the staff doesn't have any incentive to go above and beyond for you.

Don't support their business model.

TBH I didn't want to say it but this is also often the case
Generally places like that also have shitty food and are probably fronts for drugs or human trafficking (seriously)

Ah, talking about the reasons for cultural differences is "perpetual foreigner syndrome" and offensive to you but saying those places are most likely fronts for drug and human trafficking is reasonable to you.
Typical Bok_Choi rambling.
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