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CiIantro 02/27/18 10:51:28 PM #1:	People who aggressively criticize them know eating meat is unethical, but don't like being reminded of it. That is why they get so worked up. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:896901167] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote>People who aggressively criticize them know eating meat is unethical, but don't like being reminded of it. That is why they get so worked up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Soviet_Poland 02/27/18 10:53:33 PM #2:	microwaves some popcorn --- "He has two neurons held together by a spirochete." <cite>Soviet_Poland posted [p:896901272] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote>microwaves some popcorn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cosmic_Diabetic 02/27/18 10:54:39 PM #3:	Did you know plants have a conscience and are aware when they are being devoured/being cut? https://munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2014/0701-plants-respond-to-leaf-vibrations-caused-by-insects%E2%80%99-chewing-mu-study-finds/ Looks like you no longer have the ethical argument on your side. --- Others find humanity by looking in their own hearts. Only lost souls need to search for it outside themselves." <cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted [p:896901330] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote>Did you know plants have a conscience and are aware when they are being devoured/being cut? https://munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2014/0701-plants-respond-to-leaf-vibrations-caused-by-insects%E2%80%99-chewing-mu-study-finds/ Looks like you no longer have the ethical argument on your side.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 02/27/18 10:57:28 PM #5:	Cosmic_Diabetic posted... Did you know plants have a conscience and are aware when they are being devoured/being cut? https://munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2014/0701-plants-respond-to-leaf-vibrations-caused-by-insects%E2%80%99-chewing-mu-study-finds/ Looks like you no longer have the ethical argument on your side. only problem with this is you still need to kill plants in order to feed animals to raise and eat animals (and a lot more of them than if you just ate the plants yourself). and that's assuming the plants are as conscious and aware as animals (which they're not) --- Hey what's going on in this thread http://i.imgur.com/6fpKRW8.gif http://i.imgur.com/RNZi0gk.gif <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:896901477] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted...</cite> <quote>Did you know plants have a conscience and are aware when they are being devoured/being cut? https://munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2014/0701-plants-respond-to-leaf-vibrations-caused-by-insects%E2%80%99-chewing-mu-study-finds/ Looks like you no longer have the ethical argument on your side.</quote> only problem with this is you still need to kill plants in order to feed animals to raise and eat animals (and a lot more of them than if you just ate the plants yourself). and that's assuming the plants are as conscious and aware as animals (which they're not)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 02/27/18 10:58:18 PM #6:	GregShmedley posted... I don't criticize vegetarians or vegans as a whole. I do, however, criticize them on an individual level if they are smug about their lifestyle or push it on their pets or their children are malnourished because they can't feed them properly. Vegans feed their children healthier meals than carnists who give their children fast food and Mountain Dew. --- I <3 my bae. <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:896901530] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>I don't criticize vegetarians or vegans as a whole. I do, however, criticize them on an individual level if they are smug about their lifestyle or push it on their pets or their children are malnourished because they can't feed them properly.</quote> Vegans feed their children healthier meals than carnists who give their children fast food and Mountain Dew.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Soviet_Poland 02/27/18 10:59:05 PM #7:	Pepys Monster posted... Vegans feed their children healthier meals than carnists who give their children fast food and Mountain Dew. Took only 6 posts for a false dichotomy. Dis gun b gud. props up lawn chair --- "He has two neurons held together by a spirochete." <cite>Soviet_Poland posted [p:896901566] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote>Vegans feed their children healthier meals than carnists who give their children fast food and Mountain Dew.</quote> Took only 6 posts for a false dichotomy. Dis gun b gud. props up lawn chair</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cosmic_Diabetic 02/27/18 11:01:47 PM #8:	ThyCorndog posted... only problem with this is you still need to kill plants in order to feed animals to eat plants (and a lot more of them than if you just ate the plants yourself). and that's assuming the plants are as conscious and aware as animals (which they're not) And the connection of how this makes eating plants ethical but not animals? Also are we now ranking ethics based on the amount of conscious? Because some animals have a greater amount of awareness than others which meat eaters use all the time as an argument against vegetarians/vegans --- Others find humanity by looking in their own hearts. Only lost souls need to search for it outside themselves." <cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted [p:896901700] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>only problem with this is you still need to kill plants in order to feed animals to eat plants (and a lot more of them than if you just ate the plants yourself). and that's assuming the plants are as conscious and aware as animals (which they're not) </quote> And the connection of how this makes eating plants ethical but not animals? Also are we now ranking ethics based on the amount of conscious? Because some animals have a greater amount of awareness than others which meat eaters use all the time as an argument against vegetarians/vegans</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Omega Hunter 02/27/18 11:02:13 PM #9:	There is nothing unethical about animals killing other animals to eat them. It has been going on for millions of years before humans ever joined the party. If given the chance many an animal would kill and eat a human. The idea that humans killing and eating animals is somehow suddenly unethical because what? We got too good at it? this idea is soooo beyond rational I only have one opinion on the matter and I feel stronger about it then nearly anything else in life. FUCK ethical vegans/vegetarians. --- Living is naturally hell, you have to work to put a smile on. http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/7_ugmpjq.gif <cite>Omega Hunter posted [p:896901713] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote>There is nothing unethical about animals killing other animals to eat them. It has been going on for millions of years before humans ever joined the party. If given the chance many an animal would kill and eat a human. The idea that humans killing and eating animals is somehow suddenly unethical because what? We got too good at it? this idea is soooo beyond rational I only have one opinion on the matter and I feel stronger about it then nearly anything else in life. FUCK ethical vegans/vegetarians.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nativengine 02/27/18 11:03:03 PM #10:	I dont criticize vegans or vegetarians. Nor do I fell its unethical eating meat. --- Jive <cite>nativengine posted [p:896901756] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote>I dont criticize vegans or vegetarians. Nor do I fell its unethical eating meat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 02/27/18 11:03:11 PM #11:	Pepys Monster posted... GregShmedley posted... I don't criticize vegetarians or vegans as a whole. I do, however, criticize them on an individual level if they are smug about their lifestyle or push it on their pets or their children are malnourished because they can't feed them properly. Vegans feed their children healthier meals than carnists who give their children fast food and Mountain Dew. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/11/italian-baby-fed-vegan-diet-hospitalized-for-malnutrition/?utm_term=.d86ba01633ad --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:896901764] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>I don't criticize vegetarians or vegans as a whole. I do, however, criticize them on an individual level if they are smug about their lifestyle or push it on their pets or their children are malnourished because they can't feed them properly.</quote> Vegans feed their children healthier meals than carnists who give their children fast food and Mountain Dew.</quote> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/11/italian-baby-fed-vegan-diet-hospitalized-for-malnutrition/?utm_term=.d86ba01633ad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CelestialVoices 02/27/18 11:03:32 PM #12:	it's true --- ginger ale is lit http://www.last.fm/user/pinkfloydrulez <cite>CelestialVoices posted [p:896901778] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote>it's true</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 02/27/18 11:03:56 PM #13:	Omega Hunter posted... There is nothing unethical about animals killing other animals to eat them. It has been going on for millions of years before humans ever joined the party. If given the chance many an animal would kill and eat a human. The idea that humans killing and eating animals is somehow suddenly unethical because what? We got too good at it? this idea is soooo beyond rational I only have one opinion on the matter and I feel stronger about it then nearly anything else in life. FUCK ethical vegans/vegetarians. You don't have to eat animals. You are not a wild carnivore. You're supposed to be a civilized human being with morals. --- I <3 my bae. <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:896901799] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>Omega Hunter posted...</cite> <quote>There is nothing unethical about animals killing other animals to eat them. It has been going on for millions of years before humans ever joined the party. If given the chance many an animal would kill and eat a human. The idea that humans killing and eating animals is somehow suddenly unethical because what? We got too good at it? this idea is soooo beyond rational I only have one opinion on the matter and I feel stronger about it then nearly anything else in life. FUCK ethical vegans/vegetarians.</quote> You don't have to eat animals. You are not a wild carnivore. You're supposed to be a civilized human being with morals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 02/27/18 11:04:56 PM #14:	Cosmic_Diabetic posted... ThyCorndog posted... only problem with this is you still need to kill plants in order to feed animals to eat plants (and a lot more of them than if you just ate the plants yourself). and that's assuming the plants are as conscious and aware as animals (which they're not) And the connection of how this makes eating plants ethical but not animals? Also are we now ranking ethics based on the amount of conscious? Because some animals have a greater amount of awareness than others which meat eaters use all the time as an argument against vegetarians/vegans because you have to feed a cow a ton of plants in order to sustain it to the point you eat it, and then the amount of food you get from the cow is incredibly disproportionate to the amounts of plants you fed it, which you could have just eaten yourself. it's simple math --- Hey what's going on in this thread http://i.imgur.com/6fpKRW8.gif http://i.imgur.com/RNZi0gk.gif <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:896901848] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>only problem with this is you still need to kill plants in order to feed animals to eat plants (and a lot more of them than if you just ate the plants yourself). and that's assuming the plants are as conscious and aware as animals (which they're not) </quote> And the connection of how this makes eating plants ethical but not animals? Also are we now ranking ethics based on the amount of conscious? Because some animals have a greater amount of awareness than others which meat eaters use all the time as an argument against vegetarians/vegans</quote> because you have to feed a cow a ton of plants in order to sustain it to the point you eat it, and then the amount of food you get from the cow is incredibly disproportionate to the amounts of plants you fed it, which you could have just eaten yourself. it's simple math</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 02/27/18 11:06:26 PM #15:	A former friend who was a very pleasant person changed completely after her hippy boyfriend converted her to veganism. Can't even talk to the person anymore. It's sad. --- https://i.imgur.com/lwkIVOb.png <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:896901923] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote>A former friend who was a very pleasant person changed completely after her hippy boyfriend converted her to veganism. Can't even talk to the person anymore. It's sad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cosmic_Diabetic 02/27/18 11:11:44 PM #17:	ThyCorndog posted... Cosmic_Diabetic posted... ThyCorndog posted... only problem with this is you still need to kill plants in order to feed animals to eat plants (and a lot more of them than if you just ate the plants yourself). and that's assuming the plants are as conscious and aware as animals (which they're not) And the connection of how this makes eating plants ethical but not animals? Also are we now ranking ethics based on the amount of conscious? Because some animals have a greater amount of awareness than others which meat eaters use all the time as an argument against vegetarians/vegans because you have to feed a cow a ton of plants in order to sustain it to the point you eat it, and then the amount of food you get from the cow is incredibly disproportionate to the amounts of plants you fed it, which you could have just eaten yourself. it's simple math And if everyone gave up meat people would eat considerably more vegetables so more plants will get devoured anyways. It's simple math.... And just common sense. --- Others find humanity by looking in their own hearts. Only lost souls need to search for it outside themselves." <cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted [p:896902138] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>only problem with this is you still need to kill plants in order to feed animals to eat plants (and a lot more of them than if you just ate the plants yourself). and that's assuming the plants are as conscious and aware as animals (which they're not) </quote> And the connection of how this makes eating plants ethical but not animals? Also are we now ranking ethics based on the amount of conscious? Because some animals have a greater amount of awareness than others which meat eaters use all the time as an argument against vegetarians/vegans</quote> because you have to feed a cow a ton of plants in order to sustain it to the point you eat it, and then the amount of food you get from the cow is incredibly disproportionate to the amounts of plants you fed it, which you could have just eaten yourself. it's simple math</quote> And if everyone gave up meat people would eat considerably more vegetables so more plants will get devoured anyways. It's simple math.... And just common sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Omega Hunter 02/27/18 11:12:23 PM #18:	Omega Hunter posted... There is nothing unethical about animals killing other animals to eat them. It has been going on for millions of years before humans ever joined the party. If given the chance many an animal would kill and eat a human. The idea that humans killing and eating animals is somehow suddenly unethical because what? We got too good at it? this idea is soooo beyond rational I only have one opinion on the matter and I feel stronger about it then nearly anything else in life. FUCK ethical vegans/vegetarians. You don't have to eat animals. You are not a wild carnivore. You're supposed to be a civilized human being with morals. I am not a wild carnivore, correct. I am an omnivore and a predator. I dont have to do most of the things I do in life. What the fuck has that got to do with anything? I dont need to sleep with a blanket, we got heating now, should I get rid of blankets...no, I find them quite comfortable. Should I live on rice and beans...no beef is my my favorite food on earth and very conducive to squatting over 300 lbs. --- Living is naturally hell, you have to work to put a smile on. http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/7_ugmpjq.gif <cite>Omega Hunter posted [p:896902177] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><quote><cite>Omega Hunter posted...</cite> <quote>There is nothing unethical about animals killing other animals to eat them. It has been going on for millions of years before humans ever joined the party. If given the chance many an animal would kill and eat a human. The idea that humans killing and eating animals is somehow suddenly unethical because what? We got too good at it? this idea is soooo beyond rational I only have one opinion on the matter and I feel stronger about it then nearly anything else in life. FUCK ethical vegans/vegetarians.</quote> You don't have to eat animals. You are not a wild carnivore. You're supposed to be a civilized human being with morals.</quote> I am not a wild carnivore, correct. I am an omnivore and a predator. I dont have to do most of the things I do in life. What the fuck has that got to do with anything? I dont need to sleep with a blanket, we got heating now, should I get rid of blankets...no, I find them quite comfortable. Should I live on rice and beans...no beef is my my favorite food on earth and very conducive to squatting over 300 lbs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 02/27/18 11:15:25 PM #19:	There's nothing immoral about eating animals. They're stupid. They don't even know they're being eaten. --- https://i.imgur.com/lwkIVOb.png <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:896902329] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote>There's nothing immoral about eating animals. They're stupid. They don't even know they're being eaten.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FomTumbled 02/27/18 11:19:32 PM #20:	If animals weren't meant to be eaten they wouldn't be so delicious. --- Where are the turtles?! <cite>FomTumbled posted [p:896902496] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote>If animals weren't meant to be eaten they wouldn't be so delicious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
southcoast09 02/27/18 11:21:49 PM #21:	Its child abuse to raise a kid vegan. --- Stand for the anthem or sit for the game! <cite>southcoast09 posted [p:896902591] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote>Its child abuse to raise a kid vegan.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 02/27/18 11:23:37 PM #22:	This is all fine as long as you guys are also okay with mass torturing and slaughtering dogs. Pigs have a very similar level of intelligence and companionship potential. --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:896902674] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote>This is all fine as long as you guys are also okay with mass torturing and slaughtering dogs. Pigs have a very similar level of intelligence and companionship potential.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/27/18 11:23:48 PM #23:	CiIantro posted... People who aggressively criticize them know eating meat is unethical, but don't like being reminded of it. That is why they get so worked up. I don't necessarily agree that eating meat is unethical. I think the factory farming torture we do is unethical but not the idea of eating meat in general. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896902683] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote>People who aggressively criticize them know eating meat is unethical, but don't like being reminded of it. That is why they get so worked up.</quote> I don't necessarily agree that eating meat is unethical. I think the factory farming torture we do is unethical but not the idea of eating meat in general.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/27/18 11:24:58 PM #24:	foreverzero212 posted... This is all fine as long as you guys are also okay with mass torturing and slaughtering dogs. Pigs have a very similar level of intelligence and companionship potential. pigs are smarter than dogs and generally extremely intelligent as far as animals are concerned. people don't care because they don't look "cute" also why horse meat industry was banned but nobody gives a fuck about cows. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896902738] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>foreverzero212 posted...</cite> <quote>This is all fine as long as you guys are also okay with mass torturing and slaughtering dogs. Pigs have a very similar level of intelligence and companionship potential.</quote> pigs are smarter than dogs and generally extremely intelligent as far as animals are concerned. people don't care because they don't look "cute" also why horse meat industry was banned but nobody gives a fuck about cows.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 02/27/18 11:25:07 PM #25:	Tyranthraxus posted... CiIantro posted... People who aggressively criticize them know eating meat is unethical, but don't like being reminded of it. That is why they get so worked up. I don't necessarily agree that eating meat is unethical. I think the factory farming torture we do is unethical but not the idea of eating meat in general. How is it ethical to murder other living beings? Do you think animals don't feel fear and pain? Do you think they don't want to live? --- I <3 my bae. <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:896902745] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote>People who aggressively criticize them know eating meat is unethical, but don't like being reminded of it. That is why they get so worked up.</quote> I don't necessarily agree that eating meat is unethical. I think the factory farming torture we do is unethical but not the idea of eating meat in general.</quote> How is it ethical to murder other living beings? Do you think animals don't feel fear and pain? Do you think they don't want to live?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PepperoniMaster 02/27/18 11:26:22 PM #26:	southcoast09 posted... Its child abuse to raise a kid vegan. Brother coast understands. Imagine stripping them of the finer things in life, like bacon double cheeseburgers and chili cheese fries. I'd be pissed, too. --- To be the man, you've got to BEAT the man! <cite>PepperoniMaster posted [p:896902786] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote>Its child abuse to raise a kid vegan.</quote> Brother coast understands. Imagine stripping them of the finer things in life, like bacon double cheeseburgers and chili cheese fries. I'd be pissed, too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Omega Hunter 02/27/18 11:27:46 PM #27:	foreverzero212 posted... This is all fine as long as you guys are also okay with mass torturing and slaughtering dogs. Pigs have a very similar level of intelligence and companionship potential. Saying certain animals are off limits is completely arbitrary and based on your own culture. In China they have a long tradition of eating dogs and I have absolutely no problem with it. I would try dog if given the opportunity, I have heard they taste pretty good. Just a perk of being on top of the food chain. --- Living is naturally hell, you have to work to put a smile on. http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/7_ugmpjq.gif <cite>Omega Hunter posted [p:896902845] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>foreverzero212 posted...</cite> <quote>This is all fine as long as you guys are also okay with mass torturing and slaughtering dogs. Pigs have a very similar level of intelligence and companionship potential.</quote> Saying certain animals are off limits is completely arbitrary and based on your own culture. In China they have a long tradition of eating dogs and I have absolutely no problem with it. I would try dog if given the opportunity, I have heard they taste pretty good. Just a perk of being on top of the food chain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masticatingman 02/27/18 11:28:06 PM #28:	I really just respect vegetarians who do it for spiritual reasons. Other than that, occasional fish and poultry is better than not. --- I am basically am I. Well, basically. <cite>masticatingman posted [p:896902860] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote>I really just respect vegetarians who do it for spiritual reasons. Other than that, occasional fish and poultry is better than not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/27/18 11:28:38 PM #29:	Pepys Monster posted... How is it ethical to murder other living beings? Do you think animals don't feel fear and pain? Do you think they don't want to live? Because that's just life. I don't think for a moment that a lion considers the fear and pain in gazelle except as potential tools to assist in the takedown of that gazelle. the lion never stops to ask "gosh is this ethical?" --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896902886] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote>How is it ethical to murder other living beings? Do you think animals don't feel fear and pain? Do you think they don't want to live?</quote> Because that's just life. I don't think for a moment that a lion considers the fear and pain in gazelle except as potential tools to assist in the takedown of that gazelle. the lion never stops to ask "gosh is this ethical?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 02/27/18 11:28:39 PM #30:	Ya I don't get the people who have this hate for vegans and vegetarians. It's really weird. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:896902888] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote>Ya I don't get the people who have this hate for vegans and vegetarians. It's really weird.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocDelicious 02/27/18 11:29:12 PM #31:	I dated a vegan once. Fucking awful. Can't stand people who don't fully utilize their taste buds. --- o7 Let strength be granted so the world might be mended. <cite>DocDelicious posted [p:896902913] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote>I dated a vegan once. Fucking awful. Can't stand people who don't fully utilize their taste buds.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 02/27/18 11:29:45 PM #32:	Omega Hunter posted... There is nothing unethical about animals killing other animals to eat them. It has been going on for millions of years before humans ever joined the party. If given the chance many an animal would kill and eat a human. The idea that humans killing and eating animals is somehow suddenly unethical because what? We got too good at it? this idea is soooo beyond rational I only have one opinion on the matter and I feel stronger about it then nearly anything else in life. FUCK ethical vegans/vegetarians. Like, do you really feel as strongly about this as your post makes it sound? Like, why would they anger you? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:896902937] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>Omega Hunter posted...</cite> <quote>There is nothing unethical about animals killing other animals to eat them. It has been going on for millions of years before humans ever joined the party. If given the chance many an animal would kill and eat a human. The idea that humans killing and eating animals is somehow suddenly unethical because what? We got too good at it? this idea is soooo beyond rational I only have one opinion on the matter and I feel stronger about it then nearly anything else in life. FUCK ethical vegans/vegetarians.</quote> Like, do you really feel as strongly about this as your post makes it sound? Like, why would they anger you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 02/27/18 11:30:30 PM #33:	Tyranthraxus posted... Pepys Monster posted... How is it ethical to murder other living beings? Do you think animals don't feel fear and pain? Do you think they don't want to live? Because that's just life. I don't think for a moment that a lion considers the fear and pain in gazelle except as potential tools to assist in the takedown of that gazelle. the lion never stops to ask "gosh is this ethical?" A lion is a wild animal and a carnivore. Human beings aren't carnivores and don't need to kill animals to survive. Hope this helps. --- I <3 my bae. <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:896902968] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote>How is it ethical to murder other living beings? Do you think animals don't feel fear and pain? Do you think they don't want to live?</quote> Because that's just life. I don't think for a moment that a lion considers the fear and pain in gazelle except as potential tools to assist in the takedown of that gazelle. the lion never stops to ask "gosh is this ethical?"</quote> A lion is a wild animal and a carnivore. Human beings aren't carnivores and don't need to kill animals to survive. Hope this helps.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 02/27/18 11:31:32 PM #34:	Tyranthraxus posted... Pepys Monster posted... How is it ethical to murder other living beings? Do you think animals don't feel fear and pain? Do you think they don't want to live? Because that's just life. I don't think for a moment that a lion considers the fear and pain in gazelle except as potential tools to assist in the takedown of that gazelle. the lion never stops to ask "gosh is this ethical?" Are you asking why do humans and lions have different ethical opinions? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:896903029] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote> How is it ethical to murder other living beings? Do you think animals don't feel fear and pain? Do you think they don't want to live?</quote> Because that's just life. I don't think for a moment that a lion considers the fear and pain in gazelle except as potential tools to assist in the takedown of that gazelle. the lion never stops to ask "gosh is this ethical?"</quote> Are you asking why do humans and lions have different ethical opinions?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Soviet_Poland 02/27/18 11:32:40 PM #35:	Eventually lab grown meat will be scaled to the population and this whole argument will become moot anyway. --- "He has two neurons held together by a spirochete." <cite>Soviet_Poland posted [p:896903086] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote>Eventually lab grown meat will be scaled to the population and this whole argument will become moot anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GOOMFalse 02/27/18 11:34:26 PM #36:	Have you ever had brisket tho --- I'm your huckleberry. <cite>GOOMFalse posted [p:896903154] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote>Have you ever had brisket tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 02/27/18 11:35:44 PM #37:	Omega Hunter posted... foreverzero212 posted... This is all fine as long as you guys are also okay with mass torturing and slaughtering dogs. Pigs have a very similar level of intelligence and companionship potential. Saying certain animals are off limits is completely arbitrary and based on your own culture. In China they have a long tradition of eating dogs and I have absolutely no problem with it. I would try dog if given the opportunity, I have heard they taste pretty good. Just a perk of being on top of the food chain. Then you are more logically consistent. I bet many here blasting vegans would disagree with you. I'm not vegan, but I understand I'm logically inconsistent and a bad person lol --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:896903210] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>Omega Hunter posted...</cite> <quote><cite>foreverzero212 posted...</cite> <quote>This is all fine as long as you guys are also okay with mass torturing and slaughtering dogs. Pigs have a very similar level of intelligence and companionship potential.</quote> Saying certain animals are off limits is completely arbitrary and based on your own culture. In China they have a long tradition of eating dogs and I have absolutely no problem with it. I would try dog if given the opportunity, I have heard they taste pretty good. Just a perk of being on top of the food chain.</quote> Then you are more logically consistent. I bet many here blasting vegans would disagree with you. I'm not vegan, but I understand I'm logically inconsistent and a bad person lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/27/18 11:35:52 PM #38:	I'm not a vegetarian and I don't understand why people get so worked up about it. I'm completely willing to admit I'm being selfish because I like meat too much. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896903220] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote>I'm not a vegetarian and I don't understand why people get so worked up about it. I'm completely willing to admit I'm being selfish because I like meat too much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Omega Hunter 02/27/18 11:36:48 PM #39:	Pepys Monster posted... Tyranthraxus posted... CiIantro posted... People who aggressively criticize them know eating meat is unethical, but don't like being reminded of it. That is why they get so worked up. I don't necessarily agree that eating meat is unethical. I think the factory farming torture we do is unethical but not the idea of eating meat in general. How is it ethical to murder other living beings? Do you think animals don't feel fear and pain? Do you think they don't want to live? Lol nice try but look up the definition of murder, killing animals for food is in no way shape or form murder. As for whether animals feel fear and pain, of course they do...as a predator I simply do not care. My want for meat trumps lesser animals feelings and well-being. --- Living is naturally hell, you have to work to put a smile on. http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/7_ugmpjq.gif <cite>Omega Hunter posted [p:896903254] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote>People who aggressively criticize them know eating meat is unethical, but don't like being reminded of it. That is why they get so worked up.</quote> I don't necessarily agree that eating meat is unethical. I think the factory farming torture we do is unethical but not the idea of eating meat in general.</quote> How is it ethical to murder other living beings? Do you think animals don't feel fear and pain? Do you think they don't want to live?</quote> Lol nice try but look up the definition of murder, killing animals for food is in no way shape or form murder. As for whether animals feel fear and pain, of course they do...as a predator I simply do not care. My want for meat trumps lesser animals feelings and well-being.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 02/27/18 11:39:01 PM #40:	Omega Hunter posted... Pepys Monster posted... Tyranthraxus posted... CiIantro posted... People who aggressively criticize them know eating meat is unethical, but don't like being reminded of it. That is why they get so worked up. I don't necessarily agree that eating meat is unethical. I think the factory farming torture we do is unethical but not the idea of eating meat in general. How is it ethical to murder other living beings? Do you think animals don't feel fear and pain? Do you think they don't want to live? Lol nice try but look up the definition of murder, killing animals for food is in no way shape or form murder. As for whether animals feel fear and paid, of course they do...as a predator I simply do not care. My want for meat trumps lesser animals feelings and well-being. It's the nature of an animal to live in a constant state of fear, pain, anxiety etc. That's what they spend their time doing in the wild: rummaging for food and running from or hunting other animals. They don't sit around and drink tea and civilize themselves. --- https://i.imgur.com/lwkIVOb.png <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:896903352] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>Omega Hunter posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote>People who aggressively criticize them know eating meat is unethical, but don't like being reminded of it. That is why they get so worked up.</quote> I don't necessarily agree that eating meat is unethical. I think the factory farming torture we do is unethical but not the idea of eating meat in general.</quote> How is it ethical to murder other living beings? Do you think animals don't feel fear and pain? Do you think they don't want to live?</quote> Lol nice try but look up the definition of murder, killing animals for food is in no way shape or form murder. As for whether animals feel fear and paid, of course they do...as a predator I simply do not care. My want for meat trumps lesser animals feelings and well-being.</quote> It's the nature of an animal to live in a constant state of fear, pain, anxiety etc. That's what they spend their time doing in the wild: rummaging for food and running from or hunting other animals. They don't sit around and drink tea and civilize themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 02/27/18 11:49:49 PM #41:	Omega Hunter posted... Pepys Monster posted... Tyranthraxus posted... CiIantro posted... People who aggressively criticize them know eating meat is unethical, but don't like being reminded of it. That is why they get so worked up. I don't necessarily agree that eating meat is unethical. I think the factory farming torture we do is unethical but not the idea of eating meat in general. How is it ethical to murder other living beings? Do you think animals don't feel fear and pain? Do you think they don't want to live? Lol nice try but look up the definition of murder, killing animals for food is in no way shape or form murder. As for whether animals feel fear and pain, of course they do...as a predator I simply do not care. My want for meat trumps lesser animals feelings and well-being. You aren't a predator, but you are a human lacking compassion for other living beings. --- I <3 my bae. <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:896903826] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>Omega Hunter posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote>People who aggressively criticize them know eating meat is unethical, but don't like being reminded of it. That is why they get so worked up.</quote> I don't necessarily agree that eating meat is unethical. I think the factory farming torture we do is unethical but not the idea of eating meat in general.</quote> How is it ethical to murder other living beings? Do you think animals don't feel fear and pain? Do you think they don't want to live?</quote> Lol nice try but look up the definition of murder, killing animals for food is in no way shape or form murder. As for whether animals feel fear and pain, of course they do...as a predator I simply do not care. My want for meat trumps lesser animals feelings and well-being.</quote> You aren't a predator, but you are a human lacking compassion for other living beings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InYourWalls1 02/27/18 11:49:53 PM #42:	Omega Hunter posted... There is nothing unethical about animals killing other animals to eat them. It has been going on for millions of years before humans ever joined the party. Rape and slavery also have long and storied pasts with humans - just because certain behaviours were acceptable historically doesn't mean we shouldn't rethink them Omega Hunter posted... Should I live on rice and beans...no beef is my my favorite food on earth and very conducive to squatting over 300 lbs. Vegan diets can be just as conducive to squatting over 300lbs, speaking from experience --- The fully enlightened earth radiates disaster triumphant <cite>InYourWalls1 posted [p:896903829] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>Omega Hunter posted...</cite> <quote>There is nothing unethical about animals killing other animals to eat them. It has been going on for millions of years before humans ever joined the party. </quote> Rape and slavery also have long and storied pasts with humans - just because certain behaviours were acceptable historically doesn't mean we shouldn't rethink them <cite>Omega Hunter posted...</cite> <quote>Should I live on rice and beans...no beef is my my favorite food on earth and very conducive to squatting over 300 lbs.</quote> Vegan diets can be just as conducive to squatting over 300lbs, speaking from experience</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/27/18 11:53:35 PM #43:	Pepys Monster posted... A lion is a wild animal and a carnivore. Human beings aren't carnivores and don't need to kill animals to survive. Hope this helps. I figure someone was gonna say some shit about carnivores. Humans aren't the only animal that eats both. I should have used an example like a duck instead. emblem boy posted... Are you asking why do humans and lions have different ethical opinions? No. I know why. I'm saying it's a manufactured opinion that has zero relevance on basic laws of entropy and nature. It's like asking why hasn't xyz animal ever killed some of their own kind for being homosexual. We as humans attributed this bullshit to things where it didn't exist before and still doesn't exist anywhere except in our own heads. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896903981] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote>A lion is a wild animal and a carnivore. Human beings aren't carnivores and don't need to kill animals to survive. Hope this helps.</quote> I figure someone was gonna say some shit about carnivores. Humans aren't the only animal that eats both. I should have used an example like a duck instead. <cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote>Are you asking why do humans and lions have different ethical opinions?</quote> No. I know why. I'm saying it's a manufactured opinion that has zero relevance on basic laws of entropy and nature. It's like asking why hasn't xyz animal ever killed some of their own kind for being homosexual. We as humans attributed this bullshit to things where it didn't exist before and still doesn't exist anywhere except in our own heads.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 02/27/18 11:56:18 PM #44:	Tyranthraxus posted... Pepys Monster posted... A lion is a wild animal and a carnivore. Human beings aren't carnivores and don't need to kill animals to survive. Hope this helps. I figure someone was gonna say some shit about carnivores. Humans aren't the only animal that eats both. I should have used an example like a duck instead. emblem boy posted... Are you asking why do humans and lions have different ethical opinions? No. I know why. I'm saying it's a manufactured opinion that has zero relevance on basic laws of entropy and nature. It's like asking why hasn't xyz animal ever killed some of their own kind for being homosexual. We as humans attributed this bullshit to things where it didn't exist before and still doesn't exist anywhere except in our own heads. I mean, aren't a lot of human ethics manufactured in some way? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:896904095] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote> A lion is a wild animal and a carnivore. Human beings aren't carnivores and don't need to kill animals to survive. Hope this helps.</quote> I figure someone was gonna say some shit about carnivores. Humans aren't the only animal that eats both. I should have used an example like a duck instead. <cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote> Are you asking why do humans and lions have different ethical opinions?</quote> No. I know why. I'm saying it's a manufactured opinion that has zero relevance on basic laws of entropy and nature. It's like asking why hasn't xyz animal ever killed some of their own kind for being homosexual. We as humans attributed this bullshit to things where it didn't exist before and still doesn't exist anywhere except in our own heads.</quote> I mean, aren't a lot of human ethics manufactured in some way?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 02/27/18 11:57:49 PM #45:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f-fMN2v8Uk <cite>CiIantro posted [p:896904182] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f-fMN2v8Uk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krojen 02/27/18 11:59:29 PM #46:	Omega Hunter posted... Should I live on rice and beans...no beef is my my favorite food on earth and very conducive to squatting over 300 lbs. Being vegan has been conducive to me squatting a lot more than 300. Vegans also have higher testosterone. --- http://i.imgur.com/hI4hAMb.jpg <cite>Krojen posted [p:896904246] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>Omega Hunter posted...</cite> <quote>Should I live on rice and beans...no beef is my my favorite food on earth and very conducive to squatting over 300 lbs.</quote> Being vegan has been conducive to me squatting a lot more than 300. Vegans also have higher testosterone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/28/18 12:04:42 AM #47:	emblem boy posted... I mean, aren't a lot of human ethics manufactured in some way? Yes but some ethics still have basis. It's unethical to kill other humans because that serves as a hindrance to the species as a whole. In the wild, animals typically do not kill each other without a strong reason. Namely, mating competitions, threat to self (such as challenging food supply), or in some cases animals will kill their young if there just isn't enough food or there is some medical problem. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896904456] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, aren't a lot of human ethics manufactured in some way?</quote> Yes but some ethics still have basis. It's unethical to kill other humans because that serves as a hindrance to the species as a whole. In the wild, animals typically do not kill each other without a strong reason. Namely, mating competitions, threat to self (such as challenging food supply), or in some cases animals will kill their young if there just isn't enough food or there is some medical problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nightmare_Luna 02/28/18 12:07:20 AM #48:	vegans aren't people --- "That's not a character, that's a set of bondage gear that can cast Ice 2." Vento Aureo 469 <cite>Nightmare_Luna posted [p:896904581] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote>vegans aren't people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 02/28/18 12:07:52 AM #49:	InYourWalls1 posted... Rape and slavery also have long and storied pasts with humans - just because certain behaviours were acceptable historically doesn't mean we shouldn't rethink them rape and slavery are awful comparisons. we evolved eating meat. as did most other life forms. we did not evolve to rape and enslave. --- Do good. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:896904599] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>InYourWalls1 posted...</cite> <quote>Rape and slavery also have long and storied pasts with humans - just because certain behaviours were acceptable historically doesn't mean we shouldn't rethink them</quote> rape and slavery are awful comparisons. we evolved eating meat. as did most other life forms. we did not evolve to rape and enslave.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 02/28/18 12:08:28 AM #50:	Nightmare_Luna posted... vegans are good people Fixed. --- I <3 my bae. <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:896904628] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nightmare_Luna posted...</cite> <quote>vegans are good people</quote> Fixed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 02/28/18 12:09:12 AM #51:	Eating less meat is better for the environment. Cattle farming causes more CO2 emissions than cars. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:896904651] in People onl... [t:76365252]...</cite> <quote>Eating less meat is better for the environment. Cattle farming causes more CO2 emissions than cars.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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