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sutree
02/26/18 9:42:55 PM
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With the high-velocity rounds of the AR-15, "its as if you shot somebody with a Coke can."

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/how-the-ar-15-became-mass-shooters-weapon-of-choice-w451452

Woah... how can gun-lovers defend this?
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HeyPuff
02/26/18 9:43:43 PM
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They dont feel the same
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scorpion41
02/26/18 9:43:46 PM
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Well yeah its a fucking rifle.
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Antifar
02/26/18 9:43:47 PM
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A cannon is just a long distance stabbing machine
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Doctor Foxx
02/26/18 9:46:18 PM
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Sephiroth1288
02/26/18 9:46:38 PM
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Buckshot does more damage than a 223 does. I guarantee you that.

also

Versions of the AR-15 have been the U.S. military's standard-issue assault rifle in every war since Vietnam.

^ This shit right here is proof that any idiot can pull shit out of their ass and people on the internet will take it seriously. The AR-15 is a civilian version of the M4, it was never used by any military ever. It's also not a fucking assault rifle.
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Zikten
02/26/18 9:48:59 PM
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which is why I never understood rpgs that list bullets as "bashing damage"
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Pepys Monster
02/26/18 9:54:29 PM
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sutree posted...
"its as if you shot somebody with a Coke can."

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Doctor Foxx
02/26/18 9:57:33 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
sutree posted...
"its as if you shot somebody with a Coke can."

Ibgarmk

Then there's the coke can sized exit wounds and all of the carnage in between

vs a handgun having similar sized entry and exit wounds with significantly less tissue damage
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Jiek_Fafn
02/26/18 9:58:44 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Buckshot does more damage than a 223 does. I guarantee you that.

also

Versions of the AR-15 have been the U.S. military's standard-issue assault rifle in every war since Vietnam.

^ This shit right here is proof that any idiot can pull shit out of their ass and people on the internet will take it seriously. The AR-15 is a civilian version of the M4, it was never used by any military ever. It's also not a fucking assault rifle.


I wish I could find it, but a few years back there was some meme of a bunch of things that people considered assault rifles. Most were any scary looking guns, but one was an alligator. Shit was hilarious.
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Caution999
02/26/18 9:58:48 PM
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Getting pulled over for speeding is like a GameFAQs moderation that costs real life karma and money
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Pepys Monster
02/26/18 10:01:57 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Then there's the coke can sized exit wounds and all of the carnage in between

vs a handgun having similar sized entry and exit wounds with significantly less tissue damage

Marine: .223 May Not Be Lethal Enough for Civilians
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/01/robert-farago/marine-223-may-not-be-lethal-enough-for-civilians/

This bad guy took a knee and started to aim his RPG at our building. I fired once, hitting him square in the chest. The man stumbled a bit but regained his balance and steadied his weapon. I fired again, again hitting him. But this time, it did not faze him and he was able to touch off that grenade. The explosion rattled the building and injured a Marine below me on the second floor.

The bad guy dropped the RPG once he fired it, got up, and ran down the alley away from me. He still had the AK on his back. I fired again, twice, both times hitting him in his upper thoracic region. He was not phased. My L-T was shooting at him while yelling at his sniper (me) to kill him!

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gatorsPENSbucs
02/26/18 10:04:09 PM
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Listened to an interview with the game recently and he said the gunshot really wasnt that bad. And that dude got shot like 5 times, he said its all the thoughts that make you hurt. Said hed much rather get shot than go to jail....kinda interesting.
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Giblet_Enjoyer
02/26/18 10:05:05 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Versions of the AR-15 have been the U.S. military's standard-issue assault rifle in every war since Vietnam.

^ This shit right here is proof that any idiot can pull shit out of their ass and people on the internet will take it seriously. The AR-15 is a civilian version of the M4, it was never used by any military ever. It's also not a fucking assault rifle.

lol
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WMHNWWMEWNMWY
02/26/18 10:06:01 PM
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A nuke is just a really big knife
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XxKrazyChaosxX
02/26/18 10:09:02 PM
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"Sir, what happened?!"

"I was stabbed by a bullet!"
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Sephiroth1288
02/26/18 10:09:28 PM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Versions of the AR-15 have been the U.S. military's standard-issue assault rifle in every war since Vietnam.

^ This shit right here is proof that any idiot can pull shit out of their ass and people on the internet will take it seriously. The AR-15 is a civilian version of the M4, it was never used by any military ever. It's also not a fucking assault rifle.

lol

The M4 is not a "version" of the AR-15. The AR-15 is a derivative with no select-fire capabilities.
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Capn Circus
02/26/18 10:10:05 PM
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There's nothing too particularly special about the AR-15 except marketing. I mean, it's a great gun, don't get me wrong--- but there's plenty of other guns on the market that can do just as much damage and hold the same clip size with various bullet types. Some bullets more deadlier than others.

This goes for handguns as well. Certain bullets will absolutely tear someone up versus just the standard.
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ZMythos
02/26/18 10:11:41 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Versions of the AR-15 have been the U.S. military's standard-issue assault rifle in every war since Vietnam.

^ This shit right here is proof that any idiot can pull shit out of their ass and people on the internet will take it seriously. The AR-15 is a civilian version of the M4, it was never used by any military ever. It's also not a fucking assault rifle.

lol

The M4 is not a "version" of the AR-15. The AR-15 is a derivative with no select-fire capabilities.

ITP: Not knowing every single detail of a gun disqualifies you from saying they're bad
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Malcrasternus
02/26/18 10:13:12 PM
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Are they bad?
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Giblet_Enjoyer
02/26/18 10:13:12 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Versions of the AR-15 have been the U.S. military's standard-issue assault rifle in every war since Vietnam.

^ This shit right here is proof that any idiot can pull shit out of their ass and people on the internet will take it seriously. The AR-15 is a civilian version of the M4, it was never used by any military ever. It's also not a fucking assault rifle.

lol

The M4 is not a "version" of the AR-15. The AR-15 is a derivative with no select-fire capabilities.

Last I checked, if thing A is a version of thing B, then thing B is a version of thing A.
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Sephiroth1288
02/26/18 10:13:33 PM
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ZMythos posted...
ITP: Not knowing every single detail of a gun disqualifies you from saying they're bad

It's not a small detail. These people have no fucking clue what an AR-15 is.

Imagine a person giving their opinion on climate change but they give a wrong description of what a greenhouse gas is.

That's how stupid this person sounds to people who are knowledgeable about guns.
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Dragonblade01
02/26/18 10:15:51 PM
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Well that settles it.

We should start making handguns that shoot knives.
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thronedfire2
02/26/18 10:17:20 PM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Versions of the AR-15 have been the U.S. military's standard-issue assault rifle in every war since Vietnam.

^ This shit right here is proof that any idiot can pull shit out of their ass and people on the internet will take it seriously. The AR-15 is a civilian version of the M4, it was never used by any military ever. It's also not a fucking assault rifle.

lol

The M4 is not a "version" of the AR-15. The AR-15 is a derivative with no select-fire capabilities.

Last I checked, if thing A is a version of thing B, then thing B is a version of thing A.


yeah that's not how that works
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Sephiroth1288
02/26/18 10:18:55 PM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
Well that settles it.

We should start making handguns that shoot knives.

Not for a handgun, but...

ABntbxH
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Giblet_Enjoyer
02/26/18 10:22:55 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Versions of the AR-15 have been the U.S. military's standard-issue assault rifle in every war since Vietnam.

^ This shit right here is proof that any idiot can pull shit out of their ass and people on the internet will take it seriously. The AR-15 is a civilian version of the M4, it was never used by any military ever. It's also not a fucking assault rifle.

lol

The M4 is not a "version" of the AR-15. The AR-15 is a derivative with no select-fire capabilities.

Last I checked, if thing A is a version of thing B, then thing B is a version of thing A.


yeah that's not how that works

http://puu.sh/zwwP4/bddfb0e629.png

It actually is tho
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RoboLaserGandhi
02/26/18 10:35:31 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
sutree posted...
"its as if you shot somebody with a Coke can."

Ibgarmk

Then there's the coke can sized exit wounds and all of the carnage in between

vs a handgun having similar sized entry and exit wounds with significantly less tissue damage

If you shot someone with a Coke can it would create a wound larger than a Coke can.
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TheGrindery
02/26/18 10:40:17 PM
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Speaking of stabbing with a bullet, I'm playing FF8. Lol
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StarLightGlimmR
02/26/18 10:42:16 PM
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We used to only have knives, no bullets.
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Dark_Spiret
02/26/18 10:42:48 PM
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Paragon21XX
02/26/18 10:44:44 PM
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ZMythos posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Versions of the AR-15 have been the U.S. military's standard-issue assault rifle in every war since Vietnam.

^ This shit right here is proof that any idiot can pull shit out of their ass and people on the internet will take it seriously. The AR-15 is a civilian version of the M4, it was never used by any military ever. It's also not a fucking assault rifle.

lol

The M4 is not a "version" of the AR-15. The AR-15 is a derivative with no select-fire capabilities.

ITP: Not knowing every single detail of a gun disqualifies you from saying they're bad

Not knowing every single detail of a gun disqualifies one from being able to objectively compare two distinctly different models and be able to defend why one model should be banned and the other be allowed to remain legal, e.g. AR-15 vs Ruger Mini-14. Until one can go beyond saying "feature X is commonly found on military weapons, therefore it is unfit for civilian ownership," they should study basic gun anatomy before trying to defend some weak position like banning assault rifles is actually going to accomplish more than jack shit.
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Ricemills
02/26/18 11:12:23 PM
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what they left out is it's like stabbing with a bullet with a speed of 1000 feet per second.
ever wondered the difference of someone fist bump you and punch you at full force?
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r4X0r
02/26/18 11:17:54 PM
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ZMythos posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Versions of the AR-15 have been the U.S. military's standard-issue assault rifle in every war since Vietnam.

^ This shit right here is proof that any idiot can pull shit out of their ass and people on the internet will take it seriously. The AR-15 is a civilian version of the M4, it was never used by any military ever. It's also not a fucking assault rifle.

lol

The M4 is not a "version" of the AR-15. The AR-15 is a derivative with no select-fire capabilities.

ITP: Not knowing every single detail of a gun disqualifies you from saying they're bad


.....Yes. Knowing what something is and how it works is ABSOLUTELY PREREQUISITE to forming a valid opinion on why it's "bad."
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matteus70
02/26/18 11:45:29 PM
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Not to mention the infection issues.
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ChainedRedone
02/26/18 11:48:32 PM
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@Sephiroth1288 posted...
Buckshot does more damage than a 223 does. I guarantee you that.

also

Versions of the AR-15 have been the U.S. military's standard-issue assault rifle in every war since Vietnam.

^ This shit right here is proof that any idiot can pull shit out of their ass and people on the internet will take it seriously. The AR-15 is a civilian version of the M4, it was never used by any military ever. It's also not a fucking assault rifle.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite_AR-15

The ArmaLite AR-15 was a select-fire, air-cooled, gas-operated, magazine-fed assault rifle manufactured in the United States between 1959 and 1964.

Gun lovers proving they don't even know anything about guns themselves. Sad.
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Offworlder1
02/27/18 12:04:37 AM
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https://www.quora.com/Has-the-AR-15-ever-been-used-by-the-US-or-other-nations-military-in-combat-situations-in-the-past-or-present

The AR-15 that is sold to civilians that you can buy today has NEVER been in US military service.

"The US military uses or has used the M16, the M16A1, the M16A2, the M16A3, the M16A4, and currently is using the M4 which is a smaller, shorter, lighter version of the M16 series. With the exception of the M16A2, those firearms had three settings. Safe, Select Fire (or Single Shot), and Full Automatic. The M16A2 had three settings as well. They were Safe, Select Fire (or Single Shot), and 3 round burst."

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ChainedRedone
02/27/18 12:07:14 AM
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@Offworlder1 posted...
https://www.quora.com/Has-the-AR-15-ever-been-used-by-the-US-or-other-nations-military-in-combat-situations-in-the-past-or-present

The AR-15 that is sold to civilians that you can buy today has NEVER been in US military service.

"The US military uses or has used the M16, the M16A1, the M16A2, the M16A3, the M16A4, and currently is using the M4 which is a smaller, shorter, lighter version of the M16 series. With the exception of the M16A2, those firearms had three settings. Safe, Select Fire (or Single Shot), and Full Automatic. The M16A2 had three settings as well. They were Safe, Select Fire (or Single Shot), and 3 round burst."

@ChainedRedone


The M16 is a version of the AR-15. That's exactly what was in the quote. He also said the AR-15 isn't an assault rifle, but it originally was. So what's your point again?
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Offworlder1
02/27/18 12:08:11 AM
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"Technically speaking, no, they dont use AR-15s. An AR-15 is a civilian version and it is limited to a single shot per trigger squeeze. AR stands for Armalite Rifle by the way. Armalite was the company that first brought the original M16 to production."

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ChainedRedone
02/27/18 12:10:54 AM
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Offworlder1 posted...
"Technically speaking, no, they dont use AR-15s. An AR-15 is a civilian version and it is limited to a single shot per trigger squeeze. AR stands for Armalite Rifle by the way. Armalite was the company that first brought the original M16 to production."

@ChainedRedone


Who said the military uses AR-15? The AR-15 was originally an assault rifle. Not sure what you're trying to argue here.
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Offworlder1
02/27/18 12:13:00 AM
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The AR-15 that civilians can buy has never been used by the military is the point, read all of that not just the parts you like. The "original AR-15" that Stoner made was not a semi auto rifle nor is it the rifle that is known today as the AR-15, the rifle the military adopted into the service was a select fire gun that was not a "semi auto only".

Read it all and understand what is said.
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r4X0r
02/27/18 12:16:21 AM
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ChainedRedone posted...
Offworlder1 posted...
"Technically speaking, no, they dont use AR-15s. An AR-15 is a civilian version and it is limited to a single shot per trigger squeeze. AR stands for Armalite Rifle by the way. Armalite was the company that first brought the original M16 to production."

@ChainedRedone


Who said the military uses AR-15? The AR-15 was originally an assault rifle. Not sure what you're trying to argue here.


And it hasn't been for over thirty years, since 1986 when sale of new automatics was banned. Not sure what YOU'RE trying to argue here.

The AR-15 is a sporting rifle. If you don't like them, don't buy one. It doesn't get much simpler than that.
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ChainedRedone
02/27/18 12:17:14 AM
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Offworlder1 posted...
The AR-15 that civilians can buy has never been used by the military is the point, read all of that not just the parts you like. The "original AR-15" that Stoner made was not a semi auto rifle nor is it the rifle that is known today as the AR-15, the rifle the military adopted into the service was a select fire gun that was not a "semi auto only".

Read it all and understand what is said.


Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that the original AR-15 is an assault rifle and a version of it was used in the military. It is not an incorrect statement. Still don't know why you're trying to argue semantics when even technically speaking it's a correct statement.

And it hasn't been for over thirty years, since 1986 when sale of new automatics was banned. Not sure what YOU'RE trying to argue here.

What I'm arguing is a gun lover threw a fit over what is a technically correct statement. If you're going to argue semantics at least be correct about it. The M16 is a version of the AR-15. How is this even arguable?
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Offworlder1
02/27/18 12:20:05 AM
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" Versions of the AR-15 have been the U.S. military's standard-issue assault rifle in every war since Vietnam.

^ This shit right here is proof that any idiot can pull shit out of their ass and people on the internet will take it seriously. The AR-15 is a civilian version of the M4, it was never used by any military ever"

That is being contested, the part where someone claims a version of the AR-15 were used by the military, the AR-15 that is semi auto only has never been in military service.

"An AR-15 style rifle is a semi-automatic rifle based on the Colt AR-15 design"
^That is the AR-15 thats is the rifle civilians can own today that has never seen military service, that is the rifle people want to ban not the original made back in in the 1950's.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
02/27/18 12:21:27 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
The AR-15 is a civilian version of the M4, it was never used by any military ever

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/newsletters/daily-news-roundup/2017/08/15/marines-want-50000-more-infantry-automatic-rifles-to-replace-m4/

den whats dis

oh i guess i just looked up some random shit on the internet
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Sephiroth1288
02/27/18 2:17:49 AM
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ChainedRedone posted...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite_AR-15

The ArmaLite AR-15 was a select-fire, air-cooled, gas-operated, magazine-fed assault rifle manufactured in the United States between 1959 and 1964.

Gun lovers proving they don't even know anything about guns themselves. Sad.

The AR people are taking about its not the Armalite version....
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thronedfire2
02/27/18 2:35:51 AM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
The AR-15 is a civilian version of the M4, it was never used by any military ever

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/newsletters/daily-news-roundup/2017/08/15/marines-want-50000-more-infantry-automatic-rifles-to-replace-m4/

den whats dis

oh i guess i just looked up some random shit on the internet


..that says they're ordering m27s, not AR-15s
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
02/27/18 2:36:51 AM
#47:


thronedfire2 posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
The AR-15 is a civilian version of the M4, it was never used by any military ever

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/newsletters/daily-news-roundup/2017/08/15/marines-want-50000-more-infantry-automatic-rifles-to-replace-m4/

den whats dis

oh i guess i just looked up some random shit on the internet


..that says they're ordering m27s, not AR-15s

im dumb

i thought he said the m4 was never used by the military
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
02/27/18 2:44:21 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Listened to an interview with the game recently and he said the gunshot really wasnt that bad. And that dude got shot like 5 times, he said its all the thoughts that make you hurt. Said hed much rather get shot than go to jail....kinda interesting.


I mean if I was positive it wouldn't kill me I'd much rather get shot than go to jail.
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