Current Events > Im all for LBGT to get their rights

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26_Sandman_39 posted...

If gender isnt binary, if it is fluid and can transgress boundaries, than a binary between cisgender and transgender cannot exist. If it does, then we must delineate what real transgender or true transgender means, and who is allowed to inhabit it.

If cisgendered means your gender identity matches the social construct attached to the sex you were assigned at birth, than there cannot be a male gender identity that acts outside those normative social boundaries. And if you say there is variation on gender identity, but cis- just means you were born with a penis and identify and live as a man, than you negate the many variations on what it means to be a man or even to live as a man. You are imposing your concept of those things onto me, enforcing a binary that is paradoxical. Moreover, you are denying the gender fluidity of those who have a penis and identify as male, but prefer womens underwear or wear makeup or transgress norms in innumerable other ways. Adding more labels like cisgendered male transvestite in order to justify your act of aggression defeats the purpose of simplifying things with words like cisgendered.

And here I thought that "cisgender" meant "person born as x who identify as x", where x belongs to {male, female}. If you don't identify as the social construct associated with your sex, then of course you're transgender. What's the issue?
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scar the 1 posted...

Newhopes posted...

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Newhopes posted...

scar the 1 posted...

I don't see why medically prescribed testosterone should be handled differently than medically prescribed inhalers. Some substances are powerful enough that they warrant a blanket ban, others aren't. That's up to experts to determine, not people with "opinions" on message boards in the middle of the internet.

Testosterone is one of the most powerful preformance enhancers around.

This Trans in sport is stupid, men and women are built differently and Trans are still the sex they are born as, women can not compete against men on a level playing field and I don't care if saying that is politically correct or not.

Your unqualified opinion is completely useless, though. I feel very confident in letting experts in the field determine the boundaries of fairness :)

Men and womens muscles are built differently and men process oxygen around their bodies far more efficiently meaning almost a 50% difference in physical strength.

Trans lose some of that strength when they transition but they're still far stronger than a natural woman of the same fitness level, in fact it's pretty dangerous to those natural women as they're far more prone to injury than a man is.

And I don't know enough about SRS or the hormone treatment involved to have an educated opinion, hence I will defer to people who actually have educated opinions.
Just because appeal to authority is a fallacy it doesn't mean that the opinion of Joe Schmoe who took some introductory level biology class once has just as much merit as the opinion of experts who have done this for a living for decades.

I have worked in the physio in the past and I have zero interest in people who put ideolgy above facts.

Newhopes posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Newhopes posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Newhopes posted...

scar the 1 posted...

I don't see why medically prescribed testosterone should be handled differently than medically prescribed inhalers. Some substances are powerful enough that they warrant a blanket ban, others aren't. That's up to experts to determine, not people with "opinions" on message boards in the middle of the internet.

Testosterone is one of the most powerful preformance enhancers around.

This Trans in sport is stupid, men and women are built differently and Trans are still the sex they are born as, women can not compete against men on a level playing field and I don't care if saying that is politically correct or not.

Your unqualified opinion is completely useless, though. I feel very confident in letting experts in the field determine the boundaries of fairness :)

Men and womens muscles are built differently and men process oxygen around their bodies far more efficiently meaning almost a 50% difference in physical strength.

Trans lose some of that strength when they transition but they're still far stronger than a natural woman of the same fitness level, in fact it's pretty dangerous to those natural women as they're far more prone to injury than a man is.

And I don't know enough about SRS or the hormone treatment involved to have an educated opinion, hence I will defer to people who actually have educated opinions.
Just because appeal to authority is a fallacy it doesn't mean that the opinion of Joe Schmoe who took some introductory level biology class once has just as much merit as the opinion of experts who have done this for a living for decades.

I have worked in the physio in the past and I have zero interest in people who put ideolgy above facts.

Good for you?
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CiIantro posted...

HitTheGroundWal posted...

Um... but isn't that happening because he's NOT getting LBGT rights?

If that's the ftm transgender being forced to compete in the girl's division that I remember that is.

This. It is a female on testosterone who WANTS to compete in mens division, but they wont allow it.

Yep. Nice try TC.
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scar the 1 posted...

What's the issue?

the issue is a mental disorder caused by the fetus not getting the nutrients it needs, getting too much of certain types, getting certain toxins, or combinations of these.

it's actually pretty easy to induce homosexual behavior in males. create a choline deficiency, which leads to a cholesterol deficiency, which leads to a testosterone deficiency, which fails to properly organize brain structure and feminizes them. males and females have distinguishable different brain structures. feed them opposite gender hormones during this formation and you end up with gays/trans. it's a physiological disorder which leads to mental and emotional disorders. rates of depression, drug abuse, and suicide are alarmingly higher in gays/trans. not because of other people, but because of their own malformed physiology.

chopping off bits of them and pumping them full of hormones doesn't fix anything. many regret going through that afterwards and don't live long.

why do people do this

>make this topic without reading the article

>get proven wrong

>yeah well I'm still right
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who knew that gay people could be explained by a simple choline deficiency! So the cure for homosexuality is... flintstone vitamins? :v
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^you're shootin for warned status again I see
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Zodd3224 posted...

^you're shootin for warned status again I see

I didn't use just **** by itself so i should be okay. :v you know i dont believe that right? I have a gay friend who ate an entire bottle of flintstone vitamins as a kid and he's still gay.
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

Zodd3224 posted...

^you're shootin for warned status again I see

I didn't use just **** by itself so i should be okay. :v you know i dont believe that right? I have a gay friend who ate an entire bottle of flintstone vitamins as a kid and he's still gay.

Lmao, I know you didnt mean it ;-P
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