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ledbowman
02/22/18 3:16:39 PM
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and then being told the AR isn't the problem.
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gnomefromnome
02/22/18 3:17:18 PM
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...and it starts again
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DragonGirlYuki
02/22/18 3:17:39 PM
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Remove the killer and the AR becomes an inert harmless object.
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DarthAragorn
02/22/18 3:17:53 PM
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it isn't though
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Complete_Idi0t
02/22/18 3:18:10 PM
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Ya if there's one thing I would pay attention to if I were in a mass shooting it would be the model of the gun the guy is holding
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DragonGirlYuki
02/22/18 3:18:31 PM
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Remove the AR and the killer just uses another tool.
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Mr_Biscuit
02/22/18 3:19:43 PM
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DragonGirlYuki posted...
Remove the AR and the killer just uses another tool.

Id like to see the dude kill 17 people and wound many more in two minutes with a knife, or even a handgun tbh
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Complete_Idi0t
02/22/18 3:20:04 PM
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Mr_Biscuit posted...
DragonGirlYuki posted...
Remove the AR and the killer just uses another tool.

Id like to see the dude kill 17 people and wound many more in two minutes with a knife, or even a handgun tbh


What about the many rifles that aren't ar-16s
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Ben_Ruggiero
02/22/18 3:20:34 PM
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Mr_Biscuit posted...
DragonGirlYuki posted...
Remove the AR and the killer just uses another tool.

Id like to see the dude kill 17 people and wound many more in two minutes with a knife, or even a handgun tbh

You should read up on the attacks in China
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myzz007
02/22/18 3:21:35 PM
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Mr_Biscuit posted...
DragonGirlYuki posted...
Remove the AR and the killer just uses another tool.

Id like to see the dude kill 17 people and wound many more in two minutes with a knife, or even a handgun tbh


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_shooting

The shootings occurred in two separate incidents. The first incident was in West Ambler Johnston Hall, during which Seung-Hui Cho killed two students. The second incident was in Norris Hall, where the other 31 deaths, including that of Cho himself, and all the nonlethal injuries, occurred. Cho used two firearms during the attacks: a .22-caliber Walther P22 semi-automatic handgun and a 9 mm semi-automatic Glock 19 handgun.
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Mr_Biscuit
02/22/18 3:21:53 PM
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Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
DragonGirlYuki posted...
Remove the AR and the killer just uses another tool.

Id like to see the dude kill 17 people and wound many more in two minutes with a knife, or even a handgun tbh

You should read up on the attacks in China

The one that left... *counts on fingers* one dead?
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prettyprincess
02/22/18 3:23:14 PM
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DragonGirlYuki posted...
Remove the AR and the killer just uses another tool.

this is not an inherent truth
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Mr_Biscuit
02/22/18 3:23:16 PM
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myzz007 posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
DragonGirlYuki posted...
Remove the AR and the killer just uses another tool.

Id like to see the dude kill 17 people and wound many more in two minutes with a knife, or even a handgun tbh


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_shooting

The shootings occurred in two separate incidents. The first incident was in West Ambler Johnston Hall, during which Seung-Hui Cho killed two students. The second incident was in Norris Hall, where the other 31 deaths, including that of Cho himself, and all the nonlethal injuries, occurred. Cho used two firearms during the attacks: a .22-caliber Walther P22 semi-automatic handgun and a 9 mm semi-automatic Glock 19 handgun.

False equivalency based on location. Dude wasnt killing that many in a locked down high school.
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Ben_Ruggiero
02/22/18 3:25:50 PM
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Mr_Biscuit posted...
Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
DragonGirlYuki posted...
Remove the AR and the killer just uses another tool.

Id like to see the dude kill 17 people and wound many more in two minutes with a knife, or even a handgun tbh

You should read up on the attacks in China

The one that left... *counts on fingers* one dead?

Lol. You need to educate yourself. Try googling knife attacks in China.
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Mr_Biscuit
02/22/18 3:30:56 PM
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Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
DragonGirlYuki posted...
Remove the AR and the killer just uses another tool.

Id like to see the dude kill 17 people and wound many more in two minutes with a knife, or even a handgun tbh

You should read up on the attacks in China

The one that left... *counts on fingers* one dead?

Lol. You need to educate yourself. Try googling knife attacks in China.

I did. The top result was the one that left one dead. Link to some others.
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Mr_Biscuit
02/22/18 3:34:03 PM
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Wait, do you mean this one?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/world/amp/33-dead-130-injured-china-knife-wielding-spree-n41966

A group of at least 5+ attackers in a train station, as opposed to a lone wolf in a high school lockdown?..
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Mr_Biscuit
02/22/18 4:03:46 PM
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@Ben_Ruggiero I wanna see this story, the only two google turns up are the ones I linked
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darkjedilink
02/22/18 4:09:01 PM
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DragonGirlYuki posted...
Remove the killer and the AR becomes an inert harmless object.

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GuyCarlPeterson
02/22/18 4:10:28 PM
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Mr_Biscuit posted...
DragonGirlYuki posted...
Remove the AR and the killer just uses another tool.

Id like to see the dude kill 17 people and wound many more in two minutes with a knife, or even a handgun tbh

How about a truck? And handguns are used many times more than rifles in violent crimes. Also, remember the V Tech shooting?
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darkjedilink
02/22/18 4:10:29 PM
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prettyprincess posted...
DragonGirlYuki posted...
Remove the AR and the killer just uses another tool.

this is not an inherent truth

It really is. If not, nobody would ever be murdered by anything but firearms.
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ledbowman
02/22/18 4:15:55 PM
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Stop fucking lying your asses off trying to deflect, derail, and muddy the water saying he could have killed 17 people so easily with something else or any other of the high body count mass shootings done with an AR (about 50 dead in Vegas).
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ledbowman
02/22/18 4:18:02 PM
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AR is made for nothing except shooting a lot of bullets easily and quickly.
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Mr_Biscuit
02/22/18 4:20:09 PM
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GuyCarlPeterson posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
DragonGirlYuki posted...
Remove the AR and the killer just uses another tool.

Id like to see the dude kill 17 people and wound many more in two minutes with a knife, or even a handgun tbh

How about a truck? And handguns are used many times more than rifles in violent crimes. Also, remember the V Tech shooting?

Weve already talked about the V Tech shooting. Trucks are a threat, but not an instrument intended purely to kill, which makes it a bit of a different subject. Also only useful if theres a big crowd, but Id be open to seeing how we can try to prevent that too.
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gnomefromnome
02/22/18 4:22:43 PM
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ledbowman posted...
AR is made for nothing except shooting a lot of bullets easily and quickly.

Almost all pistols are the same way
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Dark_Spiret
02/22/18 4:23:08 PM
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ledbowman posted...
AR is made for nothing except shooting a lot of bullets easily and quickly.
so 90% of all guns then?
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ledbowman
02/22/18 4:24:10 PM
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gnomefromnome posted...
ledbowman posted...
AR is made for nothing except shooting a lot of bullets easily and quickly.

Almost all pistols are the same way

Regulate the fuck out of them too. I'm not defending them.
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Youngster_Joey_
02/22/18 4:24:18 PM
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Imagine being gang raped by 5 illegal immigrants and being told illegal immigration isn't a problem.
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Sephiroth1288
02/22/18 4:24:39 PM
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ledbowman posted...
and then being told the AR isn't the problem.

The AR isn't the problem.
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ledbowman
02/22/18 4:26:48 PM
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The killer killed so many so easily because he had a gun. It's the guns.
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Sephiroth1288
02/22/18 4:27:58 PM
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ledbowman posted...
The killer killed so many so easily because he had a gun. It's the guns.

A guy in Oklahoma killed 168 people with fertilizer.

Ban fertilizer.
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Junkratprime03
02/22/18 4:28:26 PM
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Republicans don't believe in rational discourse anymore. Bargaining or negotiating won't change their minds. The only thing they know is force.
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Mr_Biscuit
02/22/18 4:29:19 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
ledbowman posted...
The killer killed so many so easily because he had a gun. It's the guns.

A guy in Oklahoma killed 168 people with fertilizer.

Ban fertilizer.

...you realize we put regulations on fertilizer after that, or nah?
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ledbowman
02/22/18 4:29:53 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
ledbowman posted...
The killer killed so many so easily because he had a gun. It's the guns.

A guy in Oklahoma killed 168 people with fertilizer.

Ban fertilizer.

I know you can do better.
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Junkratprime03
02/22/18 4:30:35 PM
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ledbowman posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
ledbowman posted...
The killer killed so many so easily because he had a gun. It's the guns.

A guy in Oklahoma killed 168 people with fertilizer.

Ban fertilizer.

I know you can do better.


No, he literally cannot do better. It's just who he is as a person.
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ledbowman
02/22/18 4:31:11 PM
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Mr_Biscuit posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
ledbowman posted...
The killer killed so many so easily because he had a gun. It's the guns.

A guy in Oklahoma killed 168 people with fertilizer.

Ban fertilizer.

...you realize we put regulations on fertilizer after that, or nah?

And also we use fertilizer to... uh... fertilize.
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ledbowman
02/22/18 4:33:20 PM
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Remember that time someone shot 422 people in Las Vegas with a pistol. Oh right that was an AR.
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gnomefromnome
02/22/18 4:33:25 PM
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ledbowman posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
ledbowman posted...
The killer killed so many so easily because he had a gun. It's the guns.

A guy in Oklahoma killed 168 people with fertilizer.

Ban fertilizer.

...you realize we put regulations on fertilizer after that, or nah?

And also we use fertilizer to... uh... fertilize.

We use guns....for hunting wild animals...and shooting bad guys
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ledbowman
02/22/18 4:34:13 PM
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gnomefromnome posted...
ledbowman posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
ledbowman posted...
The killer killed so many so easily because he had a gun. It's the guns.

A guy in Oklahoma killed 168 people with fertilizer.

Ban fertilizer.

...you realize we put regulations on fertilizer after that, or nah?

And also we use fertilizer to... uh... fertilize.

We use guns....for hunting wild animals...and shooting bad guys

Having a hunting rifle is fine.
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gnomefromnome
02/22/18 4:34:21 PM
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ledbowman posted...
Remember that time someone shot 422 people in Las Vegas with a pistol. Oh right that was an AR.

A person shot those people. A rifle is incapable of firing on its own.
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Sephiroth1288
02/22/18 4:34:54 PM
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Junkratprime03 posted...
Republicans don't believe in rational discourse anymore. Bargaining or negotiating won't change their minds. The only thing they know is force.

Ok Mr. rational discourse, explain why banning AR-15s will reduce school shootings even though the deadliest school shooting in history was done with handguns.
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Sephiroth1288
02/22/18 4:35:22 PM
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ledbowman posted...
Having a hunting rifle is fine.

The most popular hunting rifle is the AR-15........
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ledbowman
02/22/18 4:36:15 PM
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gnomefromnome posted...
ledbowman posted...
Remember that time someone shot 422 people in Las Vegas with a pistol. Oh right that was an AR.

A person shot those people. A rifle is incapable of firing on its own.

Yawn
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Junkratprime03
02/22/18 4:36:42 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Junkratprime03 posted...
Republicans don't believe in rational discourse anymore. Bargaining or negotiating won't change their minds. The only thing they know is force.

Ok Mr. rational discourse, explain why banning AR-15s will reduce school shootings even though the deadliest school shooting in history was done with handguns.


I don't just want AR-15's banned. I want them banned, and I want there to stringent restrictions on most other firearms. If you can't drive a car you shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm.

But this will fall on deaf ears because you aren't interested in having an honest to goodness conversation about firearm registration.
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Mr_Biscuit
02/22/18 4:37:02 PM
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A rocket launcher doesnt fire itself. People fire rocket launchers.

Brb gonna go buy one for EXTREME MOOSE HUNTING or some other weird hobby
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ledbowman
02/22/18 4:37:27 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
ledbowman posted...
Having a hunting rifle is fine.

The most popular hunting rifle is the AR-15........

So what. You don't need it to hunt.
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Mr_Biscuit
02/22/18 4:37:38 PM
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Mr_Biscuit posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
ledbowman posted...
The killer killed so many so easily because he had a gun. It's the guns.

A guy in Oklahoma killed 168 people with fertilizer.

Ban fertilizer.

...you realize we put regulations on fertilizer after that, or nah?

@Sephiroth1288
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DyingPancake
02/22/18 4:39:54 PM
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Junkratprime03 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Junkratprime03 posted...
Republicans don't believe in rational discourse anymore. Bargaining or negotiating won't change their minds. The only thing they know is force.

Ok Mr. rational discourse, explain why banning AR-15s will reduce school shootings even though the deadliest school shooting in history was done with handguns.


I don't just want AR-15's banned. I want them banned, and I want there to stringent restrictions on most other firearms. If you can't drive a car you shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm.

But this will fall on deaf ears because you aren't interested in having an honest to goodness conversation about firearm registration.


You just said you wanted a ton of guns banned

there's no point in having an actual conversation with you if your viewpoints are so dumb
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ledbowman
02/22/18 4:40:58 PM
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He couldn't have shot 500 people so easily from so far away with a pistol. This isn't hard.
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Sephiroth1288
02/22/18 4:43:47 PM
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Junkratprime03 posted...


I don't just want AR-15's banned. I want them banned, and I want there to stringent restrictions on most other firearms. If you can't drive a car you shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm.

But this will fall on deaf ears because you aren't interested in having an honest to goodness conversation about firearm registration.

Ok then, can you show a study that empirically shows gun bans will reduce homicides? Because I can show that there's no connection at all, and that there could even be a negative impact:

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Junkratprime03
02/22/18 4:44:07 PM
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DyingPancake posted...
Junkratprime03 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Junkratprime03 posted...
Republicans don't believe in rational discourse anymore. Bargaining or negotiating won't change their minds. The only thing they know is force.

Ok Mr. rational discourse, explain why banning AR-15s will reduce school shootings even though the deadliest school shooting in history was done with handguns.


I don't just want AR-15's banned. I want them banned, and I want there to stringent restrictions on most other firearms. If you can't drive a car you shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm.

But this will fall on deaf ears because you aren't interested in having an honest to goodness conversation about firearm registration.


You just said you wanted a ton of guns banned

there's no point in having an actual conversation with you if your viewpoints are so dumb


Like I said, conservatives don't want a conversation. They just want to shout down any kind of meaningful registration act and let more kids die.
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