Current Events > pick up artist pro tip 99: when a girl asks what you do, don't tell her your job

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No_U_L7
02/21/18 10:14:20 PM
#102:


Dustin1280 posted...
I could post 7 tips in 4 minutes that is more helpful then everything you have posted in this entire topic.


Go for it, unlike you I will even be polite and give you constructive criticism.
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Dustin1280
02/21/18 10:21:10 PM
#103:


If you are having trouble meeting women here are some things I would recommend.

1. Don't give one word answers, if you want conversation you need to give them something to build off of. (the TC posted this one in 300+ words and used terrible examples, but it's still a good tip)

2. If you are going to say something think to yourself, does this make me look like I have little confidence or bad self esteem? If it does think of something ELSE to say or a better way to say it.

3. On the first date I don't recommend talking about family issues, politics, religion, or ex boyfriend/girlfriends.

4. If you manage to get a woman's phone number, don't call her or message her for at least a few days unless she messages you first. When you do talk to her next, have a SET schedule in mind, don't say something like "i am open whenever you are," it makes you look a little desperate.

5. don't put women on a pedestal, they are normal people just like everyone else. If you DO put them on a pedestal you are going to be very nervous during your interactions.

6. CONFIDENCE ALWAYS have CONFIDENCE. Never say anything that could make you look like you are not confident in yourself, at least not on the first couple of dates. Wait till you have built some trust.

7. Try not to talk about yourself too much during the first date, do what you can to make the woman talk about herself. It will make the date go smoother and easier.
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No_U_L7
02/21/18 10:29:29 PM
#105:


Dustin1280 posted...
If you are having trouble meeting women here are some things I would recommend.

1. Don't give one word answers, if you want conversation you need to give them something to build off of. (the TC posted this one in 300+ words and used terrible examples, but it's still a good tip)

2. If you are going to say something think to yourself, does this make me look like I have little confidence or bad self esteem? If it does think of something ELSE to say or a better way to say it.

3. On the first date I don't recommend talking about family issues, politics, religion, or ex boyfriend/girlfriends.

4. If you manage to get a woman's phone number, don't call her or message her for at least a few days unless she messages you first. When you do talk to her next, have a SET schedule in mind, don't say something like "i am open whenever you are," it makes you look a little desperate.

5. don't put women on a pedestal, they are normal people just like everyone else. If you DO put them on a pedestal you are going to be very nervous during your interactions.

6. CONFIDENCE ALWAYS have CONFIDENCE. Never say anything that could make you look like you are not confident in yourself.

7. Try not to talk about yourself too much during the first date, do what you can to make the woman talk about herself. It will make the date go smoother and easier.


Ugh, mainstream advice, let me provide my thoughts:
1. *Don't
2. Not that much time to think before everything said, it's better to just come from a frame of high confidence, but sure
3. Depends on how important it is to the girl. If you want to sleep with the girl, girls usually sleep with guys they feel really understand them. If any of those is extremely important to the girl, you better be able to adjust to it. If she was previously raped and it drastically affected her life and the way she views the world, you better bet she wouldn't sleep with anyone who doesn't know about this. So despite being a sensitive topic, it may need to be discussed to sleep with the girl.
4. NO. NEVER expect a girl to text you first. Girls will come up with any excuse not to, don't put the onus on her. Text her that day and/or the day after. Definitely do it while she still remembers you. If you get a girl's number and a bus stop after 15 min, do you really think she's going to remember you 4 days later when she has a million guys after her? When scheduling, ask her what days she is available and then pick what days work best for you.
5. Yes
6. Yes, but the occasional self deprecating remark isn't bad
7. You want her to talk about herself a lot, talk about you when she asks but make it interesting...but also important talk about the two of you some, in terms of whether or not you would get along. IE, "oh, you're very adventurous, i'm glad...I don't think I can be around a girl that just stayed on the couch all day"

Headed to the gym, feel free to get pissed at my pro advice
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Dustin1280
02/21/18 10:37:41 PM
#106:


"ugh, mainstream advice"

xD your entire first post is mainstream advise that is overly convoluted and with terrible examples that will have the opposite affect you are going for.

1. Well this is the gem you started the topic with, so yeah.
2. No critique here, you basically agreed with me in more words then necessary.
3. Rape will NEVER come up in a conversation on a first date unless one or both parties are completely crazy. If you are meaning to say, respond based on what she is pushing for sure, but that is still good advise to keep in mind and those topics should only be breeched if she is insistent.
4. If you make a good enough impression she will text you, and if she doesn't it's perfectly fine to wait a few days. I think we are going to completely disagree here.
5. --
6. Good critique TBH
7. Good critique

Nothing you said has convinced me you are anything other then someone TRYING to be a pickup artist though. Your "proof" topic only further cements my thoughts on this. Perhaps I wouldn't have responded the way I did if you didn't come off as someone who is talking himself up while posting terrible examples in the process and ultimately looks like they don't know what they are talking about.
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Sylph
02/21/18 10:57:31 PM
#107:


Dustin1280 posted...
Ladies, mind casting your vote on this?

Which do you think is a better response if you are trying to create interest on a date to the question "What's your job?" This is a first date.

1. "You know, I've always loved making sure the world stayed a fair and balanced place for people, so I decided to become a criminal defense lawyer and hope to one day become a judge so i can keep things fair and balanced at the highest level"

2. "Honestly? I get to make good money while helping people who have been screwed by the system. It's win/win."

Say #2 with a bit of snark

Well I am suspicious of the first, so second is automagically better.
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Vyrulisse
02/21/18 11:23:06 PM
#108:


Personally I don't give a shit what someone says to me. I go by my sense of a person and am suspicious of everyone initially. Lines don't work on me and neither do boasts.
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Muffinz0rz
02/21/18 11:27:34 PM
#109:


xyMe159

alright bruv i just got this, so since i shouldn't tell her my job, what do i say?

I work in sales. It's very boring and I'm not even gonna try to make it sound interesting. What do you recommend?
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Reis
02/21/18 11:29:18 PM
#110:


Muffinz0rz posted...
xyMe159

alright bruv i just got this, so since i shouldn't tell her my job, what do i say?

I work in sales. It's very boring and I'm not even gonna try to make it sound interesting. What do you recommend?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LCggmsCXk4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI_hOP_K6MY
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DaemMkIV7
02/21/18 11:32:30 PM
#111:


No_U_L7 posted...

Guy: You know, I've always loved making sure the world stayed a fair and balanced place for people, so I decided to become a criminal defense lawyer and hope to one day become a judge so i can keep things fair and balanced at the highest level


Holy shit that is corny as fuck.
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southcoast09
02/21/18 11:33:51 PM
#112:


You can never go wrong with, I just hold it down for he family.

Thats what Snoop Doggs son Told Gordon Ramsey.
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REMercsChamp
02/21/18 11:36:19 PM
#113:


DaemMkIV7 posted...
No_U_L7 posted...

Guy: You know, I've always loved making sure the world stayed a fair and balanced place for people, so I decided to become a criminal defense lawyer and hope to one day become a judge so i can keep things fair and balanced at the highest level


Holy shit that is corny as fuck.

Girls love that shit
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No_U_L7
02/22/18 12:57:01 AM
#114:


Muffinz0rz posted...
xyMe159

alright bruv i just got this, so since i shouldn't tell her my job, what do i say?

I work in sales. It's very boring and I'm not even gonna try to make it sound interesting. What do you recommend?


so, you're gonna come into all my topics to shit on them, but the second you need help, you're gonna come asking for something?

okay, i'll help, but you better play ball from now on.

what are you passionate about that you are taking steps towards in your life? if you run a side business, talk about that.

if nothing, then my first bit of advice is to find your passions.

next, how to reply: do NOT deflect. saying something like "holding it down for the fam" makes it look like you're hiding something and her brain will jump straight to homeless, unemployed, dug dealer, serial killer. answer her briefly then distract from it.

Example:
her: what do you do?
you: i'm in sales by day and a stripper by night
her: you're a stripper?!
you: gotta fund my expedition around the world somehow sally!
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CiIantro
02/22/18 12:58:13 AM
#115:


This topic is pathetic lmao
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MuayThai85
02/22/18 12:59:17 AM
#116:


How can a virgin expect people to take him seriously when giving dating advice?
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No_U_L7
02/22/18 1:05:11 AM
#117:


Dustin1280 posted...
"ugh, mainstream advice"

xD your entire first post is mainstream advise that is overly convoluted and with terrible examples that will have the opposite affect you are going for.

1. Well this is the gem you started the topic with, so yeah.
2. No critique here, you basically agreed with me in more words then necessary.
3. Rape will NEVER come up in a conversation on a first date unless one or both parties are completely crazy. If you are meaning to say, respond based on what she is pushing for sure, but that is still good advise to keep in mind and those topics should only be breeched if she is insistent.
4. If you make a good enough impression she will text you, and if she doesn't it's perfectly fine to wait a few days. I think we are going to completely disagree here.
5. --
6. Good critique TBH
7. Good critique

Nothing you said has convinced me you are anything other then someone TRYING to be a pickup artist though. Your "proof" topic only further cements my thoughts on this. Perhaps I wouldn't have responded the way I did if you didn't come off as someone who is talking himself up while posting terrible examples in the process and ultimately looks like they don't know what they are talking about.


by mainstream advice, i didn't mean obvious advice...i meant public misconceptions. the ugh was more that i get asked these questions so much by friends and random people at bars it gets old. you may think this topic is obvious advice, but i also have other not as obvious ones such as here:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76344286

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76333736

also, you had 7 pieces of advice to break out of "common", failed to do and to summarize: one of them was my advice (1), 2 of them were the same thing just "be confident" (2 and 6), 2 of them were blatantly wrong (3 and 4) and i had to correct you on a couple of things (7).

A couple of others points:

1. you wouldn't wait on a girl to talk to you first, you wouldn't wait on a girl to kiss you first...why is it all of a sudden ok to wait on a girl to text you first? women expect men to make the first move, and if you're waiting to text, you are missing out and doing it wrong.

2. on my dates, i want to know EVERYTHING about a girl. I want to know what kind of person she is, why she is that way, what her ideal life is like, and what are her greatest fears in life. Girls will sleep with a guy they have an intense connection with, not the guy they have a fun, light evening with. Nothing is off the table conversationally. I'm not worried about the date going bad due to bringing up touchy topics, I will be able to handle it. And if a girl is that sensitive, we probably wouldn't get along anyway. The faster and better you can get to know a girl, the larger likelihood it will lead to close.

It seems like to me you're just afraid to admit there are things about women and attraction you don't know, because that would mean that what you know is wrong and you have more to learn. if you can prove me wrong, it proves that you do know everything you need to know about pickup already without spending all the time i did learning it.

Pickup is one of those things that you can apply as much to your life as you want or dont want to. Personally I use it a ton to sleep with the type of girls that I like and that wouldn't be attracted to me based solely off of looks. You don't have to learn it if you don't want to, doesn't change the fact that a greater understanding of it is only a positive and that greater understanding is all i'm trying to bring to the board.
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Muffinz0rz
02/22/18 10:33:39 AM
#118:


No_U_L7 posted...
so, you're gonna come into all my topics to shit on them, but the second you need help, you're gonna come asking for something?

oh no i don't need your help, i just wanted to see how you'd try and spin "don't tell her your job."

I fail to see how it's appropriate to respond with things I'm passionate about when the question is what do I do for a living

I needed the laugh this morning, please keep up the gimmick
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FluttershyPony
02/22/18 10:35:50 AM
#119:


>Guy: You know, I've always loved making sure the world stayed a fair and balanced place for people, so I decided to become a criminal defense lawyer and hope to one day become a judge so i can keep things fair and balanced at the highest level

And 99.99% of all women fell asleep halfway through the conversation, hell, most men probably would too.
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Muffinz0rz
02/22/18 10:39:28 AM
#120:


FluttershyPony posted...
>Guy: You know, I've always loved making sure the world stayed a fair and balanced place for people, so I decided to become a criminal defense lawyer and hope to one day become a judge so i can keep things fair and balanced at the highest level

And 99.99% of all women fell asleep halfway through the conversation, hell, most men probably would too.

for real

just say you're a lawyer

my first reaction would be like oh baby he's rich
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No_U_L7
02/22/18 5:52:45 PM
#121:


Muffinz0rz posted...
FluttershyPony posted...
>Guy: You know, I've always loved making sure the world stayed a fair and balanced place for people, so I decided to become a criminal defense lawyer and hope to one day become a judge so i can keep things fair and balanced at the highest level

And 99.99% of all women fell asleep halfway through the conversation, hell, most men probably would too.

for real

just say you're a lawyer

my first reaction would be like oh baby he's rich


Not sure how many times I need to hammer home the point...girls don't think like guys. Girls can also find a rich guy like it's nothing...what they want is a cool guy that happens to be rich.
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No_U_L7
02/22/18 5:58:46 PM
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No_U_L7
02/22/18 6:07:24 PM
#123:


Muffinz0rz posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
so, you're gonna come into all my topics to shit on them, but the second you need help, you're gonna come asking for something?

oh no i don't need your help, i just wanted to see how you'd try and spin "don't tell her your job."

I fail to see how it's appropriate to respond with things I'm passionate about when the question is what do I do for a living

I needed the laugh this morning, please keep up the gimmick


"living" doesn't mean pay the bills. she's asking you how you spend most your time. no clue how you're trying to make fun of me when you told me you're the one living a passionless life with a dull job. either way i wrote you up an answer
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LordMarshal
02/22/18 7:06:37 PM
#124:


No_U_L7 posted...
@Dustin1280 @LordMarshal

I've written responses for you and am waiting on my apologies


Im sorry theres people like you. Now just quote "Im sorry" from this response and move on with your life. I still dont understand why such an accomplished pick up artist is arguing with people on a video game sites social board. You mentioning me to get me back here sure was pathetic.
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No_U_L7
02/22/18 7:18:05 PM
#125:


LordMarshal posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
@Dustin1280 @LordMarshal

I've written responses for you and am waiting on my apologies


Im sorry theres people like you. Now just quote "Im sorry" from this response and move on with your life. I still dont understand why such an accomplished pick up artist is arguing with people on a video game sites social board. You mentioning me to get me back here sure was pathetic.


So you continue to refuse to expand your perspective? Okay, I feel sorry there are people who refuse to think outside of their small box. Let's move on then.
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CarlGrimes
02/22/18 7:19:23 PM
#126:


Anyone remember years ago when TC made a topic about dancing on cam for his boyfriend?
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MrMimeTime
02/22/18 7:21:38 PM
#127:


Ugh just stop TC. Your advice is cringeworthy.
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thedarklordx3
02/22/18 8:30:15 PM
#128:


I'd tell a girl i was a stripper or secret agent or superhero or something, spice up the conversation and keep it interesting rather than anything dry and boring like talk of work
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thedarklordx3
02/22/18 8:34:51 PM
#129:


No_U_L7 posted...
HAHAHAHA...and you think taking girl advice from women is a good thing? You are too much man. This is probably worth it's own pro-tip advice, but here it is: Girls tell you what they THINK they will respond well to, not what they ACTUALLY respond to. The two are drastically different due to how susceptible to their emotions women are. So, no, do not take advice on women from women.


This applies to men too, the ideal housewife is your mom, but most people aren't seeking out women who remind them of mom

Likewise, dating a girl you met in a coke fueled threesome with her best friend at a party is a bad idea, no matter how much fun that sounds, even though we'd all do it
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thedarklordx3
02/22/18 8:39:55 PM
#130:


Sayoria posted...
While I want to love for love, I won't lie and say that if he says he is a cashier or something for Home Depot, the interest would die fast.


I ain't saying she a gold digger, but she ain't messing with no broke...
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Muffinz0rz
02/23/18 3:09:35 PM
#131:


No_U_L7 posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
No_U_L7 posted...
so, you're gonna come into all my topics to shit on them, but the second you need help, you're gonna come asking for something?

oh no i don't need your help, i just wanted to see how you'd try and spin "don't tell her your job."

I fail to see how it's appropriate to respond with things I'm passionate about when the question is what do I do for a living

I needed the laugh this morning, please keep up the gimmick


"living" doesn't mean pay the bills. she's asking you how you spend most your time. no clue how you're trying to make fun of me when you told me you're the one living a passionless life with a dull job. either way i wrote you up an answer

How is it even remotely possible for you to misread this

xyMe159

gMlpt8m

(source): https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/for+a+living

this woman clearly doesn't speak English as a first language and yet she understands idioms better than you do

"making [a] living" or "doing X for a living" is different than "living." so when you put "living" in quotes like you did, you're changing the original meaning of her question. thus, everything past "living" is pointless because you're misinterpreting something that a non-native english speaker has no problem getting.

i like this gimmick because you pretend to be really good at giving advice when it's actually wrong as fuck hahahaha lmfao
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thedarklordx3
02/23/18 5:10:09 PM
#132:


Telling a girl what you do for a living is pointless, your money is none of her concern, your answer will be boring (i guarantee none of you are astronauts or Spanish bull fighters), and unless she has interest or knowledge of that field the conversation will be at a dead end (go on and try to explain quantitative methodology on a first date, i dare you)

The correct answer is "magic mike inspired me to become a stripper, want a lap dance? ;)'
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Muffinz0rz
02/23/18 11:55:32 PM
#133:


@No_U_L7
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No_U_L7
02/24/18 12:09:04 AM
#134:


Muffinz0rz posted...
@No_U_L7


i made this topic just for you:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76351011

You're thinking hyper logically, if X is asked, it must be answered with Y because by the stricted definition, it is the right answer

But with girls, that's not how they think. When they ask you that question, even though that's how it's phrased, they are just trying to get to know you and your life better.

Now, I didn't say "answer with your hobbies", hopefully your passions are things you can make money from now or some day.

I also didn't say to explicitly lie or never tell her how you pay the bills...i said if she inquires further go ahead and tell her.

But when you're first meeting someone it's much better to communicate in a way that gives her as much info about you as possible in a short amount of time, ie her friends can pull her away any moment. When they see you again, do you want girls to think "oh it's that intel guy" or "oh it's that guitarist"
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Muffinz0rz
02/24/18 12:12:34 AM
#135:


No_U_L7 posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
No_U_L7


i made this topic just for you:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76351011

You're thinking hyper logically, if X is asked, it must be answered with Y because by the stricted definition, it is the right answer

But with girls, that's not how they think. When they ask you that question, even though that's how it's phrased, they are just trying to get to know you and your life better.

Now, I didn't say "answer with your hobbies", hopefully your passions are things you can make money from now or some day.

I also didn't say to explicitly lie or never tell her how you pay the bills...i said if she inquires further go ahead and tell her.

But when you're first meeting someone it's much better to communicate in a way that gives her as much info about you as possible in a short amount of time, ie her friends can pull her away any moment. When they see you again, do you want girls to think "oh it's that intel guy" or "oh it's that guitarist"

imagine thinking telling someone you're a sports gambling addict is a good first impression
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No_U_L7
02/24/18 12:15:34 AM
#136:


Muffinz0rz posted...
imagine thinking telling someone you're a sports gambling addict is a good first impression


it's an example...it can work depending on how you frame it. i've told plenty of girls that i gamble on sports, with the advent of DFS it's very popular to make a living that way now. Also, don't be judgemental...there was at least one person in this topic that made a living gambling (on poker i believe). Also you are estimating incorrectly what girls think of a lot of impressions....girls actually like guys who think outside the box and don't have conventional jobs.

I like how you always like to ignore all my carefully expanded points just to pick one thing to harp on ;)
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Muffinz0rz
02/24/18 12:22:43 AM
#137:


No_U_L7 posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
imagine thinking telling someone you're a sports gambling addict is a good first impression


it's an example...it can work depending on how you frame it. i've told plenty of girls that i gamble on sports, with the advent of DFS it's very popular to make a living that way now. Also, don't be judgemental...there was at least one person in this topic that made a living gambling (on poker i believe). Also you are estimating incorrectly what girls think of a lot of impressions....girls actually like guys who think outside the box and don't have conventional jobs.

I like how you always like to ignore all my carefully expanded points just to pick one thing to harp on ;)

my out-of-work hobbies include rock-climbing, tennis, occasionally exercising, playing video games, and watching movies.

none of the above bring in any sort of revenue.

i ask again, how does one respond to "what do you do for a living" when literally the only source of income is one's job?
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No_U_L7
02/24/18 12:31:13 AM
#138:


Muffinz0rz posted...
my out-of-work hobbies include rock-climbing, tennis, occasionally exercising, playing video games, and watching movies.

none of the above bring in any sort of revenue.

i ask again, how does one respond to "what do you do for a living" when literally the only source of income is one's job?


I've already responded to your question a couple pages back. I'll repost it here:

what are you passionate about that you are taking steps towards in your life? if you run a side business, talk about that.

if nothing, then my first bit of advice is to find your passions.

next, how to reply: do NOT deflect. saying something like "holding it down for the fam" makes it look like you're hiding something and her brain will jump straight to homeless, unemployed, dug dealer, serial killer. answer her briefly then distract from it.

Example:
her: what do you do?
you: i'm in sales by day and a stripper by night
her: you're a stripper?!
you: gotta fund my expedition around the world somehow sally!

To put emphasis, I feel like people should not be doing a job they can't talk about at least semi-passionately. If you're that bored by work, you should be taking steps to find a better job, in which case you can talk about that.

If your job is that boring, my listed example works fine. You can also keep it a lot more straightforward and say "i work in sales, but i try not to let that define me, playing tennis and rock climbing are probably my true passions".

But yeah my life (and not pick up) advice would be don't spend so much of your time doing something you don't like.

I went to college for 9 years to do what I do for a living so I obviously like it a bit, even though I wouldn't call it my true passion I can definitely talk about it passionately.
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