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eston 02/21/18 4:45:16 PM #51:	_OujiDoza_ posted... You can give them a pass all you want the first time...the 2nd time? Nah, man. Was it the same hotel, or just the same corporate overlord? --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:896513302] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote>You can give them a pass all you want the first time...the 2nd time? Nah, man.</quote> Was it the same hotel, or just the same corporate overlord?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_OujiDoza_ 02/21/18 4:53:55 PM #53:	Outer_space posted... Is it common for a father to book separate rooms when traveling with a single child? If they're joined I don't see what the problem is? pretty sure that's what the father wanted. And no, it's not uncommon particularly for teenage kids. --- R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime \|Brian-Dawkins\|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg. <cite>_OujiDoza_ posted [p:896513807] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>Outer_space posted...</cite> <quote>Is it common for a father to book separate rooms when traveling with a single child?</quote> If they're joined I don't see what the problem is? pretty sure that's what the father wanted. And no, it's not uncommon particularly for teenage kids.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 02/21/18 4:57:24 PM #54:	Is underage sex trafficking a bigger issue in Europe that they need to be on constant alert? --- PSN: Jiek <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:896513998] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote>Is underage sex trafficking a bigger issue in Europe that they need to be on constant alert?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 02/21/18 5:36:58 PM #55:	I'm not sure why anyone thinks the Father has grounds to sue anyone. The hotel reported a suspected criminal to the police, this is protect speech and you can't be (successfully) sued for it. An officer came to the suspected criminal and questioned them, and the suspected victim. This isn't anywhere near the standard needed to sue police. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:896516225] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure why anyone thinks the Father has grounds to sue anyone. The hotel reported a suspected criminal to the police, this is protect speech and you can't be (successfully) sued for it. An officer came to the suspected criminal and questioned them, and the suspected victim. This isn't anywhere near the standard needed to sue police.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 02/21/18 5:42:02 PM #56:	JE19426 posted... I'm not sure why anyone thinks the Father has grounds to sue anyone. The hotel reported a suspected criminal to the police, this is protect speech and you can't be (successfully) sued for it. An officer came to the suspected criminal and questioned them, and the suspected victim. This isn't anywhere near the standard needed to sue police. It might be different in Europe, but over here in the states can be a felony to wrongfully accuse someone of a crime. It certainly could be taken to civil court for defamation or slander. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 1 (1) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:896516498] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure why anyone thinks the Father has grounds to sue anyone. The hotel reported a suspected criminal to the police, this is protect speech and you can't be (successfully) sued for it. An officer came to the suspected criminal and questioned them, and the suspected victim. This isn't anywhere near the standard needed to sue police.</quote> It might be different in Europe, but over here in the states can be a felony to wrongfully accuse someone of a crime. It certainly could be taken to civil court for defamation or slander.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 02/21/18 5:43:29 PM #57:	voldothegr8 posted... It might be different in Europe, but over here in the states can be a felony to wrongfully accuse someone of a crime. It certainly could be taken to civil court for defamation or slander. Even in the USA making reports to the police is protected speech, and you can't be (successfully) sued for it. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:896516571] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote>It might be different in Europe, but over here in the states can be a felony to wrongfully accuse someone of a crime. It certainly could be taken to civil court for defamation or slander. </quote> Even in the USA making reports to the police is protected speech, and you can't be (successfully) sued for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_OujiDoza_ 02/21/18 6:18:31 PM #59:	JE19426 posted... voldothegr8 posted... It might be different in Europe, but over here in the states can be a felony to wrongfully accuse someone of a crime. It certainly could be taken to civil court for defamation or slander. Even in the USA making reports to the police is protected speech, and you can't be (successfully) sued for it. Yeah you can --- R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime \|Brian-Dawkins\|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg. <cite>_OujiDoza_ posted [p:896518572] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote>It might be different in Europe, but over here in the states can be a felony to wrongfully accuse someone of a crime. It certainly could be taken to civil court for defamation or slander. </quote> Even in the USA making reports to the police is protected speech, and you can't be (successfully) sued for it.</quote> Yeah you can</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mizznox 02/21/18 7:56:13 PM #60:	False accusation requires intent, though, doesn't it? Reporting suspicious activity is not the same thing as telling the police that someone did something that you know they didn't do. --- https://i.imgur.com/qUAL3fG.gifv <cite>Mizznox posted [p:896524153] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote>False accusation requires intent, though, doesn't it? Reporting suspicious activity is not the same thing as telling the police that someone did something that you know they didn't do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 02/22/18 2:25:02 AM #61:	_OujiDoza_ posted... Yeah you can Wrong. You have no idea what you are talking about if you think you can successfully sue someone for reporting you to the police. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:896543471] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah you can </quote> Wrong. You have no idea what you are talking about if you think you can successfully sue someone for reporting you to the police.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 02/22/18 2:40:56 AM #62:	JE19426 posted... _OujiDoza_ posted... Yeah you can Wrong. You have no idea what you are talking about if you think you can successfully sue someone for reporting you to the police. I figure he's confusing it with filing a false report. Jiek_Fafn posted... Is underage sex trafficking a bigger issue in Europe that they need to be on constant alert? y'ever see taken --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:896543944] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah you can </quote> Wrong. You have no idea what you are talking about if you think you can successfully sue someone for reporting you to the police.</quote> I figure he's confusing it with filing a false report. <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted...</cite> <quote>Is underage sex trafficking a bigger issue in Europe that they need to be on constant alert?</quote> y'ever see taken</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 02/22/18 2:44:56 AM #63:	DrizztLink posted... I figure he's confusing it with filing a false report. I guess that's possible. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:896544049] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>DrizztLink posted...</cite> <quote>I figure he's confusing it with filing a false report. </quote> I guess that's possible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 02/22/18 2:45:52 AM #64:	eston posted... I'd wager there was more to it than that, as this is a hotel and they see fathers and daughters, fathers and sons, mothers and sons, etc. All day every day. Something about these people stood out. Just like how certain "races" of people stand out when it comes to certain crimes? Speaking of that, I wonder what race they were. You'd probably do a complete 180 if it subverted your expectations. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:896544086] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>I'd wager there was more to it than that, as this is a hotel and they see fathers and daughters, fathers and sons, mothers and sons, etc. All day every day. Something about these people stood out.</quote> Just like how certain "races" of people stand out when it comes to certain crimes? Speaking of that, I wonder what race they were. You'd probably do a complete 180 if it subverted your expectations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClockworkHare 02/22/18 3:11:23 AM #65:	eston posted... wackyteen posted... No, fuck that. Somebody claims you're a pedophile while with your daughter. There's almost no greater insult. It's a disgusting double standard that fathers should never have to face just for being alone in public with their duaghters. It could have been handled with more tact, but given what a widespread problem human trafficking is I'd rather they report it and hurt someone's feelings than ignore it and let someone continue to be victimized And then they should follow up by somehow reimbursing the falsely accused for the sleight. This is the part society is fucking up on... Pushing "the ends justify the means " bullshit rhetoric just causes victims of another kind. If an innocent has to get harshly investigated for something they did not do, at least have the human decency to make amends for it. It should be STANDARD PROCEDURE to make it up to the person. Don't put them through that hell and then say "oh well, it needed to be done ". That's just insensitive and frankly LAZY. You're gonna falsely accuse a man of molesting his own child? Okay, then at least pay for their accommodations to make up for it. Otherwise your business is dog shit and you should be shut down. When you treat innocence like it's worthless, you're bringing down society and making it worse, not better. You are not a hero by throwing an innocent person under the bus no matter what it's for. Doing that just makes you another villain. --- Bite me like one of your French rolls. http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/06/05/flcnpawn.png http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/06/05/84543589.gif <cite>ClockworkHare posted [p:896544739] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote>No, fuck that. Somebody claims you're a pedophile while with your daughter. There's almost no greater insult. It's a disgusting double standard that fathers should never have to face just for being alone in public with their duaghters.</quote> It could have been handled with more tact, but given what a widespread problem human trafficking is I'd rather they report it and hurt someone's feelings than ignore it and let someone continue to be victimized</quote> And then they should follow up by somehow reimbursing the falsely accused for the sleight. This is the part society is fucking up on... Pushing "the ends justify the means " bullshit rhetoric just causes victims of another kind. If an innocent has to get harshly investigated for something they did not do, at least have the human decency to make amends for it. It should be STANDARD PROCEDURE to make it up to the person. Don't put them through that hell and then say "oh well, it needed to be done ". That's just insensitive and frankly LAZY. You're gonna falsely accuse a man of molesting his own child? Okay, then at least pay for their accommodations to make up for it. Otherwise your business is dog shit and you should be shut down. When you treat innocence like it's worthless, you're bringing down society and making it worse, not better. You are not a hero by throwing an innocent person under the bus no matter what it's for. Doing that just makes you another villain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 02/22/18 3:23:48 AM #66:	ClockworkHare posted... And then they should follow up by somehow reimbursing the falsely accused for the sleight. They did. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:896545084] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>ClockworkHare posted...</cite> <quote>And then they should follow up by somehow reimbursing the falsely accused for the sleight. </quote> They did.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cal12 02/22/18 3:24:06 AM #67:	JE19426 posted... _OujiDoza_ posted... Yeah you can Wrong. You have no idea what you are talking about if you think you can successfully sue someone for reporting you to the police. Since this is a business and they have history of doing this prior actually they could be sued this time around, at least if this was the US. Once is a mistake, twice is profiling. <cite>Cal12 posted [p:896545094] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah you can </quote> Wrong. You have no idea what you are talking about if you think you can successfully sue someone for reporting you to the police.</quote> Since this is a business and they have history of doing this prior actually they could be sued this time around, at least if this was the US. Once is a mistake, twice is profiling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 02/22/18 3:26:49 AM #68:	Cal12 posted... Since this is a business and they have history of doing this prior actually they could be sued this time around, at least if this was the US. Once is a mistake, twice is profiling. Sued for what? Again reporting suspected criminal activities in the USA is protected speech. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:896545162] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cal12 posted...</cite> <quote>Since this is a business and they have history of doing this prior actually they could be sued this time around, at least if this was the US. Once is a mistake, twice is profiling.</quote> Sued for what? Again reporting suspected criminal activities in the USA is protected speech.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cal12 02/22/18 5:46:43 AM #69:	JE19426 posted... Cal12 posted... Since this is a business and they have history of doing this prior actually they could be sued this time around, at least if this was the US. Once is a mistake, twice is profiling. Sued for what? Again reporting suspected criminal activities in the USA is protected speech. Crying wolf for a second time. Its protected within a certain limit. In the US they would probably at the least be fined for wasting the cops time a second time. The father could definitely bring a civil suit for it as it shows a pattern of borderline profiling. That stuff actually has repercussions for a business no matter how much you want to argue it doesnt. <cite>Cal12 posted [p:896548055] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cal12 posted...</cite> <quote>Since this is a business and they have history of doing this prior actually they could be sued this time around, at least if this was the US. Once is a mistake, twice is profiling.</quote> Sued for what? Again reporting suspected criminal activities in the USA is protected speech.</quote> Crying wolf for a second time. Its protected within a certain limit. In the US they would probably at the least be fined for wasting the cops time a second time. The father could definitely bring a civil suit for it as it shows a pattern of borderline profiling. That stuff actually has repercussions for a business no matter how much you want to argue it doesnt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 02/22/18 6:05:38 AM #70:	Fucking sue them. --- the real Irving Rameses http://i.imgur.com/A7f6F9h.jpg <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:896548379] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote>Fucking sue them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 02/22/18 6:40:19 AM #71:	Cal12 posted... Crying wolf for a second time. That's not a tort. Its protected within a certain limit. The limit being that make stuff up. In the US they would probably at the least be fined for wasting the cops time a second time. Wrong. The police agreed the evidence the hotel had was enough to justify a report. The father could definitely bring a civil suit for it as it shows a pattern of borderline profiling. He could bring a civil suit but he'd lose as making police reports is protected speech. Furthermore what is "borderline profiling" supposed to mean? Either they are profiling or they aren't. That stuff actually has repercussions for a business no matter how much you want to argue it doesnt. I've never claimed repercussions, only that they can't be successfully sued over it. So don't try to shove shit my throat. Ving_Rhames posted... Fucking sue them. On what grounds would you sue them. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:896549059] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cal12 posted...</cite> <quote>Crying wolf for a second time.</quote> That's not a tort. <quote>Its protected within a certain limit.</quote> The limit being that make stuff up. <quote>In the US they would probably at the least be fined for wasting the cops time a second time.</quote> Wrong. The police agreed the evidence the hotel had was enough to justify a report. <quote>The father could definitely bring a civil suit for it as it shows a pattern of borderline profiling.</quote> He could bring a civil suit but he'd lose as making police reports is protected speech. Furthermore what is "borderline profiling" supposed to mean? Either they are profiling or they aren't. <quote>That stuff actually has repercussions for a business no matter how much you want to argue it doesnt.</quote> I've never claimed repercussions, only that they can't be successfully sued over it. So don't try to shove shit my throat. <cite>Ving_Rhames posted...</cite> <quote>Fucking sue them.</quote> On what grounds would you sue them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 02/22/18 6:44:35 AM #72:	the absolute state of britain --- http://i.imgur.com/A0TAfek.png <cite>TheMikh posted [p:896549147] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote>the absolute state of britain</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dat_Cracka_Jax 02/22/18 6:46:53 AM #73:	As a male with a kid, i worry sometimes that people will think I'm abducting my child while he's throwing a fit and I'm dragging him to the car --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 <cite>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted [p:896549194] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote>As a male with a kid, i worry sometimes that people will think I'm abducting my child while he's throwing a fit and I'm dragging him to the car</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 02/22/18 6:47:17 AM #74:	I've been followed around through a mall and questioned before when I was out and about with my finace's little cousin while we were waiting for her to get her hair done. My fiance is white and almost every white person would stop and stare . Security tailed us on their segway the whole time too. We were at the food court eating and after we finished our meal a group of guys walked up, surrounded us and wanted to know if I knew the kid and what was going on. Like yea, i'm obviously kidnapping/raping this little blond child that's why she is holding my hand on her own, running back to me after she stops to oogle something in a shop window, i'm giving her money, feeding her and she's having a good time and clearly knows me...lmao. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:896549197] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote>I've been followed around through a mall and questioned before when I was out and about with my finace's little cousin while we were waiting for her to get her hair done. My fiance is white and almost every white person would stop and stare . Security tailed us on their segway the whole time too. We were at the food court eating and after we finished our meal a group of guys walked up, surrounded us and wanted to know if I knew the kid and what was going on. Like yea, i'm obviously kidnapping/raping this little blond child that's why she is holding my hand on her own, running back to me after she stops to oogle something in a shop window, i'm giving her money, feeding her and she's having a good time and clearly knows me...lmao.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 02/22/18 6:48:18 AM #75:	Outer_space posted... Is it common for a father to book separate rooms when traveling with a single child? No, not even with a teenager. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:896549222] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>Outer_space posted...</cite> <quote>Is it common for a father to book separate rooms when traveling with a single child?</quote> No, not even with a teenager.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 02/22/18 8:03:19 AM #76:	Fony posted... We were at the food court eating and after we finished our meal a group of guys walked up, surrounded us and wanted to know if I knew the kid and what was going on. Like yea, i'm obviously kidnapping/raping this little blond child that's why she is holding my hand on her own, running back to me after she stops to oogle something in a shop window, i'm giving her money, feeding her and she's having a good time and clearly knows me...lmao. Bunch of guys patting each on the back thinking they're doing something good when really they're just harassing people. what a damn shame --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:896550924] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fony posted...</cite> <quote> We were at the food court eating and after we finished our meal a group of guys walked up, surrounded us and wanted to know if I knew the kid and what was going on. Like yea, i'm obviously kidnapping/raping this little blond child that's why she is holding my hand on her own, running back to me after she stops to oogle something in a shop window, i'm giving her money, feeding her and she's having a good time and clearly knows me...lmao.</quote> Bunch of guys patting each on the back thinking they're doing something good when really they're just harassing people. what a damn shame</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SRR Capdown 02/22/18 8:21:11 AM #77:	_OujiDoza_ posted... Outer_space posted... Is it common for a father to book separate rooms when traveling with a single child? If they're joined I don't see what the problem is? pretty sure that's what the father wanted. And no, it's not uncommon particularly for teenage kids. Pretty sure he tried to book a twin room, which is a room with two single beds, but could only book a double, which is a room with one double bed. If he booked online, through something like Booking.com, the staff aren't going to know that the double room wasn't his first choice. What makes it potentially worse is that these sites only tend to have a certain allocation of rooms, so they night have actually had plenty of twin rooms left, making his 'choice' of double room look even more suspicious. --- Fire Bucket <cite>SRR Capdown posted [p:896551417] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Outer_space posted...</cite> <quote>Is it common for a father to book separate rooms when traveling with a single child?</quote> If they're joined I don't see what the problem is? pretty sure that's what the father wanted. And no, it's not uncommon particularly for teenage kids.</quote> Pretty sure he tried to book a twin room, which is a room with two single beds, but could only book a double, which is a room with one double bed. If he booked online, through something like Booking.com, the staff aren't going to know that the double room wasn't his first choice. What makes it potentially worse is that these sites only tend to have a certain allocation of rooms, so they night have actually had plenty of twin rooms left, making his 'choice' of double room look even more suspicious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_OujiDoza_ 02/22/18 8:41:58 AM #78:	SRR Capdown posted... making his 'choice' of double room look even more suspicious. It's not suspicious...like, at all. --- R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime \|Brian-Dawkins\|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg. <cite>_OujiDoza_ posted [p:896552077] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>SRR Capdown posted...</cite> <quote>making his 'choice' of double room look even more suspicious.</quote> It's not suspicious...like, at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 02/22/18 8:50:55 AM #79:	SRR Capdown posted... Pretty sure he tried to book a twin room, which is a room with two single beds, but could only book a double, which is a room with one double bed. If he booked online, through something like Booking.com, the staff aren't going to know that the double room wasn't his first choice. What makes it potentially worse is that these sites only tend to have a certain allocation of rooms, so they night have actually had plenty of twin rooms left, making his 'choice' of double room look even more suspicious. But that's not their job to look into. If I knew a hotel chain was going to get the police to accost me because I was out and about with my daughter I'd avoid that chain forever and actively tell everyone I know to never give that chain business. --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:896552391] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>SRR Capdown posted...</cite> <quote>Pretty sure he tried to book a twin room, which is a room with two single beds, but could only book a double, which is a room with one double bed. If he booked online, through something like Booking.com, the staff aren't going to know that the double room wasn't his first choice. What makes it potentially worse is that these sites only tend to have a certain allocation of rooms, so they night have actually had plenty of twin rooms left, making his 'choice' of double room look even more suspicious.</quote> But that's not their job to look into. If I knew a hotel chain was going to get the police to accost me because I was out and about with my daughter I'd avoid that chain forever and actively tell everyone I know to never give that chain business.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SRR Capdown 02/22/18 9:15:58 AM #80:	_OujiDoza_ posted... SRR Capdown posted... making his 'choice' of double room look even more suspicious. It's not suspicious...like, at all. So with no other context, a 40-odd year old man arriving at a hotel with a teenage girl and taking her to a room with 1 bed isn't even remotely suspicious? I'm not saying I don't feel sorry for the guy, or that the police handled it properly, but with the likely zero context the hotel had, I'm not gonna blame them for what they did. --- Fire Bucket <cite>SRR Capdown posted [p:896553313] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SRR Capdown posted...</cite> <quote>making his 'choice' of double room look even more suspicious.</quote> It's not suspicious...like, at all.</quote> So with no other context, a 40-odd year old man arriving at a hotel with a teenage girl and taking her to a room with 1 bed isn't even remotely suspicious? I'm not saying I don't feel sorry for the guy, or that the police handled it properly, but with the likely zero context the hotel had, I'm not gonna blame them for what they did.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 02/22/18 9:17:20 AM #81:	SRR Capdown posted... So with no other context, a 40-odd year old man arriving at a hotel with a teenage girl and taking her to a room with 1 bed isn't even remotely suspicious? I'm not saying I don't feel sorry for the guy, or that the police handled it properly, but with the likely zero context the hotel had, I'm not gonna blame them for what they did. No because the vast majority of men with kids are approaching that age or are that age --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:896553363] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>SRR Capdown posted...</cite> <quote>So with no other context, a 40-odd year old man arriving at a hotel with a teenage girl and taking her to a room with 1 bed isn't even remotely suspicious? I'm not saying I don't feel sorry for the guy, or that the police handled it properly, but with the likely zero context the hotel had, I'm not gonna blame them for what they did. </quote> No because the vast majority of men with kids are approaching that age or are that age</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 02/22/18 9:29:31 AM #82:	JE19426 posted... Cal12 posted... Since this is a business and they have history of doing this prior actually they could be sued this time around, at least if this was the US. Once is a mistake, twice is profiling. Sued for what? Again reporting suspected criminal activities in the USA is protected speech. Not when all they had to go on was a man was staying in a room with a teenage child, who originally wanted two separate rooms. That is the stupidest reason to call the police. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:896553836] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cal12 posted...</cite> <quote>Since this is a business and they have history of doing this prior actually they could be sued this time around, at least if this was the US. Once is a mistake, twice is profiling.</quote> Sued for what? Again reporting suspected criminal activities in the USA is protected speech.</quote> Not when all they had to go on was a man was staying in a room with a teenage child, who originally wanted two separate rooms. That is the stupidest reason to call the police.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 02/22/18 9:47:23 AM #83:	LightHawKnight posted... Not when all they had to go on was a man was staying in a room with a teenage child, who originally wanted two separate rooms. That is the stupidest reason to call the police. Wrong, it's still protected speech in the circumstances you described. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:896554547] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote>Not when all they had to go on was a man was staying in a room with a teenage child, who originally wanted two separate rooms. That is the stupidest reason to call the police.</quote> Wrong, it's still protected speech in the circumstances you described.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 02/22/18 10:05:06 AM #84:	JE19426 posted... LightHawKnight posted... Not when all they had to go on was a man was staying in a room with a teenage child, who originally wanted two separate rooms. That is the stupidest reason to call the police. Wrong, it's still protected speech in the circumstances you described. Who gives a shit about that. If everyone jumped at every shadow, the world would be a horrible place to live in. Stop being a dick and get proof before accusing people of crimes. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:896555267] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote>Not when all they had to go on was a man was staying in a room with a teenage child, who originally wanted two separate rooms. That is the stupidest reason to call the police.</quote> Wrong, it's still protected speech in the circumstances you described.</quote> Who gives a shit about that. If everyone jumped at every shadow, the world would be a horrible place to live in. Stop being a dick and get proof before accusing people of crimes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 02/22/18 10:11:34 AM #85:	LightHawKnight posted... Who gives a shit about that. I do. Judges do, lawyers do, and people who don't want to waste money on pointless court cases do. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:896555540] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote>Who gives a shit about that.</quote> I do. Judges do, lawyers do, and people who don't want to waste money on pointless court cases do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_OujiDoza_ 02/22/18 10:14:59 AM #86:	JE19426 posted... LightHawKnight posted... Who gives a shit about that. I do. Judges do, lawyers do, and people who don't want to waste money on pointless court cases do. INB4 Father wins his lawsuit. Gotta keep in mind this isn't an American case if he does file suit; you have no clue how this would pan out. --- R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime \|Brian-Dawkins\|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg. <cite>_OujiDoza_ posted [p:896555688] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote>Who gives a shit about that.</quote> I do. Judges do, lawyers do, and people who don't want to waste money on pointless court cases do.</quote> INB4 Father wins his lawsuit. Gotta keep in mind this isn't an American case if he does file suit; you have no clue how this would pan out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 02/22/18 10:17:13 AM #87:	First off, no you can't sue someone for making a good faith police report. You could sue someone for doing so maliciously, but it would be beyond stupid to punish people for erroneously reporting something they thought was suspicious. Second, there were no damages. The story says the police showed up 10 minutes after they checked in, asked them some questions separately and determined no crime was taking place, and left. Hurt feelings generally are not worth money. And lastly, they would have to dig up a lot more than two examples at two different hotels to prove that any sort of profiling took place. --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:896555779] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote>First off, no you can't sue someone for making a good faith police report. You could sue someone for doing so maliciously, but it would be beyond stupid to punish people for erroneously reporting something they thought was suspicious. Second, there were no damages. The story says the police showed up 10 minutes after they checked in, asked them some questions separately and determined no crime was taking place, and left. Hurt feelings generally are not worth money. And lastly, they would have to dig up a lot more than two examples at two different hotels to prove that any sort of profiling took place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 02/22/18 10:18:45 AM #88:	eston posted... Second, there were no damages. The story says the police showed up 10 minutes after they checked in, asked them some questions separately and determined no crime was taking place, and left. Hurt feelings generally are not worth money. Emotional damages are real, son --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:896555850] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>Second, there were no damages. The story says the police showed up 10 minutes after they checked in, asked them some questions separately and determined no crime was taking place, and left. Hurt feelings generally are not worth money. </quote> Emotional damages are real, son</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 02/22/18 12:20:33 PM #89:	_OujiDoza_ posted... Gotta keep in mind this isn't an American case if he does file suit; I'm well aware of that. you have no clue how this would pan out. Wrong. I know he'd lose. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:896562103] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote>Gotta keep in mind this isn't an American case if he does file suit;</quote> I'm well aware of that. <quote>you have no clue how this would pan out.</quote> Wrong. I know he'd lose.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kitt 02/22/18 12:21:20 PM #90:	This reminded me of that scene in Leon the Professional. --- http://i.imgur.com/pmc9XsI.gif http://i.imgur.com/LkrRVe2.gifv http://i.imgur.com/Dp03g3y.jpg Cute? B**, I'm adorable. <cite>Kitt posted [p:896562147] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote>This reminded me of that scene in Leon the Professional.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrumpTrain 02/22/18 12:38:18 PM #91:	voldothegr8 posted... They shouldn't be doing it at all unless there's something blatantly wrong. This is no different than racial profiling in the name of combating terrorism. They aren't even profiling the right race for child grooming in the UK <cite>TrumpTrain posted [p:896563061] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote>They shouldn't be doing it at all unless there's something blatantly wrong. This is no different than racial profiling in the name of combating terrorism.</quote> They aren't even profiling the right race for child grooming in the UK</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Volkswagen_Bros 02/22/18 12:41:02 PM #92:	Waluigi7 posted... voldothegr8 posted... eston posted... It sucks but he shouldn't take it so personally. This was not a sleight against him. They got it wrong this time, but I appreciate that hotel workers are taking a proactive approach to combatting human trafficking. It's a big problem. The real downside to this is that those employees will hesitate next time they see something suspicious They shouldn't be doing it at all unless there's something blatantly wrong. This is no different than racial profiling in the name of combating terrorism. By the time something's already "blatantly wrong", it's already too late. This is exactly why preemptive measures are taken. --- Look! my foot is on the rope! My FOOT is on the rope. If it weren't for that ref, I would've been champion! - Alexa Bliss <cite>Volkswagen_Bros posted [p:896563217] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>Waluigi7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>It sucks but he shouldn't take it so personally. This was not a sleight against him. They got it wrong this time, but I appreciate that hotel workers are taking a proactive approach to combatting human trafficking. It's a big problem. The real downside to this is that those employees will hesitate next time they see something suspicious</quote> They shouldn't be doing it at all unless there's something blatantly wrong. This is no different than racial profiling in the name of combating terrorism.</quote></quote> By the time something's already "blatantly wrong", it's already too late. This is exactly why preemptive measures are taken.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 02/22/18 1:09:02 PM #93:	Volkswagen_Bros posted... Waluigi7 posted... voldothegr8 posted... eston posted... It sucks but he shouldn't take it so personally. This was not a sleight against him. They got it wrong this time, but I appreciate that hotel workers are taking a proactive approach to combatting human trafficking. It's a big problem. The real downside to this is that those employees will hesitate next time they see something suspicious They shouldn't be doing it at all unless there's something blatantly wrong. This is no different than racial profiling in the name of combating terrorism. By the time something's already "blatantly wrong", it's already too late. This is exactly why preemptive measures are taken. So racial profiling is okay to you then. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:896564866] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>Volkswagen_Bros posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Waluigi7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>It sucks but he shouldn't take it so personally. This was not a sleight against him. They got it wrong this time, but I appreciate that hotel workers are taking a proactive approach to combatting human trafficking. It's a big problem. The real downside to this is that those employees will hesitate next time they see something suspicious</quote> They shouldn't be doing it at all unless there's something blatantly wrong. This is no different than racial profiling in the name of combating terrorism.</quote></quote> By the time something's already "blatantly wrong", it's already too late. This is exactly why preemptive measures are taken.</quote> So racial profiling is okay to you then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 02/22/18 1:11:13 PM #94:	Still trying to push that profiling narrative --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:896564976] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote>Still trying to push that profiling narrative</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Volkswagen_Bros 02/22/18 1:14:39 PM #95:	LightHawKnight posted... Volkswagen_Bros posted... Waluigi7 posted... voldothegr8 posted... eston posted... It sucks but he shouldn't take it so personally. This was not a sleight against him. They got it wrong this time, but I appreciate that hotel workers are taking a proactive approach to combatting human trafficking. It's a big problem. The real downside to this is that those employees will hesitate next time they see something suspicious They shouldn't be doing it at all unless there's something blatantly wrong. This is no different than racial profiling in the name of combating terrorism. By the time something's already "blatantly wrong", it's already too late. This is exactly why preemptive measures are taken. So racial profiling is okay to you then. I wonder what lead you to that assumption. --- Look! my foot is on the rope! My FOOT is on the rope. If it weren't for that ref, I would've been champion! - Alexa Bliss <cite>Volkswagen_Bros posted [p:896565193] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Volkswagen_Bros posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Waluigi7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>It sucks but he shouldn't take it so personally. This was not a sleight against him. They got it wrong this time, but I appreciate that hotel workers are taking a proactive approach to combatting human trafficking. It's a big problem. The real downside to this is that those employees will hesitate next time they see something suspicious</quote> They shouldn't be doing it at all unless there's something blatantly wrong. This is no different than racial profiling in the name of combating terrorism.</quote></quote> By the time something's already "blatantly wrong", it's already too late. This is exactly why preemptive measures are taken.</quote> So racial profiling is okay to you then.</quote> I wonder what lead you to that assumption.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 02/22/18 1:24:50 PM #96:	Volkswagen_Bros posted... LightHawKnight posted... Volkswagen_Bros posted... Waluigi7 posted... voldothegr8 posted... eston posted... It sucks but he shouldn't take it so personally. This was not a sleight against him. They got it wrong this time, but I appreciate that hotel workers are taking a proactive approach to combatting human trafficking. It's a big problem. The real downside to this is that those employees will hesitate next time they see something suspicious They shouldn't be doing it at all unless there's something blatantly wrong. This is no different than racial profiling in the name of combating terrorism. By the time something's already "blatantly wrong", it's already too late. This is exactly why preemptive measures are taken. So racial profiling is okay to you then. I wonder what lead you to that assumption. Because you are fine with assuming that a man with his daughter clearly is a pedo, therefore police should be called. Whats the difference? --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:896565792] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>Volkswagen_Bros posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Volkswagen_Bros posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Waluigi7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>It sucks but he shouldn't take it so personally. This was not a sleight against him. They got it wrong this time, but I appreciate that hotel workers are taking a proactive approach to combatting human trafficking. It's a big problem. The real downside to this is that those employees will hesitate next time they see something suspicious</quote> They shouldn't be doing it at all unless there's something blatantly wrong. This is no different than racial profiling in the name of combating terrorism.</quote></quote> By the time something's already "blatantly wrong", it's already too late. This is exactly why preemptive measures are taken.</quote> So racial profiling is okay to you then.</quote> I wonder what lead you to that assumption.</quote> Because you are fine with assuming that a man with his daughter clearly is a pedo, therefore police should be called. Whats the difference?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kitt 02/22/18 1:43:56 PM #97:	The girl must be half Asian or something. --- http://i.imgur.com/pmc9XsI.gif http://i.imgur.com/LkrRVe2.gifv http://i.imgur.com/Dp03g3y.jpg Cute? B**, I'm adorable. <cite>Kitt posted [p:896566925] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote>The girl must be half Asian or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 02/22/18 2:03:07 PM #98:	PonyLivesMatter posted... Male priviledge is never being trusted around young girls --- I'll defend any man's Funbazooka! <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:896567988] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>PonyLivesMatter posted...</cite> <quote>Male priviledge is never being trusted around young girls</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Volkswagen_Bros 02/22/18 2:56:16 PM #99:	LightHawKnight posted... Volkswagen_Bros posted... LightHawKnight posted... Volkswagen_Bros posted... Waluigi7 posted... voldothegr8 posted... eston posted... It sucks but he shouldn't take it so personally. This was not a sleight against him. They got it wrong this time, but I appreciate that hotel workers are taking a proactive approach to combatting human trafficking. It's a big problem. The real downside to this is that those employees will hesitate next time they see something suspicious They shouldn't be doing it at all unless there's something blatantly wrong. This is no different than racial profiling in the name of combating terrorism. By the time something's already "blatantly wrong", it's already too late. This is exactly why preemptive measures are taken. So racial profiling is okay to you then. I wonder what lead you to that assumption. Because you are fine with assuming that a man with his daughter clearly is a pedo, therefore police should be called. Whats the difference? That has absolutely nothing to do with race, rather sex or gender. I want to add that self-appearance also plays a huge role in cases like these. --- Look! my foot is on the rope! My FOOT is on the rope. If it weren't for that ref, I would've been champion! - Alexa Bliss <cite>Volkswagen_Bros posted [p:896571119] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Volkswagen_Bros posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Volkswagen_Bros posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Waluigi7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>It sucks but he shouldn't take it so personally. This was not a sleight against him. They got it wrong this time, but I appreciate that hotel workers are taking a proactive approach to combatting human trafficking. It's a big problem. The real downside to this is that those employees will hesitate next time they see something suspicious</quote> They shouldn't be doing it at all unless there's something blatantly wrong. This is no different than racial profiling in the name of combating terrorism.</quote></quote> By the time something's already "blatantly wrong", it's already too late. This is exactly why preemptive measures are taken.</quote> So racial profiling is okay to you then.</quote> I wonder what lead you to that assumption.</quote> Because you are fine with assuming that a man with his daughter clearly is a pedo, therefore police should be called. Whats the difference?</quote> That has absolutely nothing to do with race, rather sex or gender. I want to add that self-appearance also plays a huge role in cases like these.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 02/22/18 3:17:40 PM #100:	Volkswagen_Bros posted... That has absolutely nothing to do with race, rather sex or gender. You know better. If it had been the mother instead of the father none of this would have happened. --- I'll defend any man's Funbazooka! <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:896572376] in Father acc... [t:76342288]...</cite> <quote><cite>Volkswagen_Bros posted...</cite> <quote> That has absolutely nothing to do with race, rather sex or gender. </quote> You know better. If it had been the mother instead of the father none of this would have happened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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