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CruelBuffalo
02/17/18 4:30:52 PM
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Jordan kept saying things like our people were in chains etc but what Wakandans were slaves and why would Wakandans feel all black people were their people

To me it would be like if the Irish were being punished/discrimianted against and Norway was like we will not let our people suffer!!!
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boxington
02/17/18 4:31:53 PM
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Jordan's character saw himself aligned with all black people, not just Wakandans
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a42ozslushie
02/17/18 4:32:27 PM
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Race is only about skin color these days. All of Europe is one race (white), Africa is another race (black), and so on.
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CruelBuffalo
02/17/18 4:32:45 PM
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boxington posted...
Jordan's character saw himself aligned with all black people, not just Wakandans


Jordans dad saw the same thing. Which is what bugged me. Wouldnt he want all people outside to thrive?
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Makeveli_lives
02/17/18 4:35:59 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Jordan kept saying things like our people were in chains etc but what Wakandans were slaves and why would Wakandans feel all black people were their people

He was raised as a black man in America, not a black man in Wakanda. All he heard growing up from his dad was how amazing Wakandan people and technology are. When his dad died and he was left there in America, he grew to believe that Wakanda abandoned him just like all the other black people who were suffering throughout history. Nakia felt the same way, going on missions throughout africa to help people instead of staying safe in wakanda because she couldn't ignore the shit going down.

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boxington
02/17/18 4:36:03 PM
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since the dad was a spy, he likely got too close to the people he was integrating himself with, and got radicalized because of it
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CruelBuffalo
02/17/18 4:40:24 PM
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boxington posted...
since the dad was a spy, he likely got too close to the people he was integrating himself with, and got radicalized because of it

Ah yeah that actually makes a lot of sense
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Makeveli_lives
02/17/18 4:41:15 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...

Jordans dad saw the same thing. Which is what bugged me. Wouldnt he want all people outside to thrive?

Why wouldn't who want them to thrive? Because N'Jobu, Killmonger, and T'Challa clearly stated that they were uneasy with how much Wakanda had knowing what was going on outside it's borders.

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boxington
02/17/18 5:26:44 PM
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Bury me in the ocean with my ancestors who jumped from ships, cause they knew death was better than bondage.

that final speech was fire
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1NfamousACE_2
02/17/18 5:28:24 PM
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boxington posted...
Bury me in the ocean with my ancestors who jumped from ships, cause they knew death was better than bondage.

that final speech was fire


I'ma changed man because of that quote
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FLUFFYGERM
02/17/18 5:28:52 PM
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That was actually something the movie did well. I appreciated that they didn't reduce brotherhood to just a matter of skin color, and the Black Panther's speech at the end of the movie was excellent. Where Killmonger believed Wakandans were obligated to help other people with black skin just because of black skin, Black Panther believed that Wakandans were obligated to help everyone.
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LightHawKnight
02/17/18 7:10:35 PM
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Still confused on why T'Challa doesn't say anything about Killmonger's father helping Claw. That would have stopped most of the fighting.
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CruelBuffalo
02/17/18 7:13:30 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Still confused on why T'Challa doesn't say anything about Killmonger's father helping Claw. That would have stopped most of the fighting.

Right? Lol its like yeah you brought him...but your dad helped him
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sktgamer_13dude
02/17/18 7:14:13 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Still confused on why T'Challa doesn't say anything about Killmonger's father helping Claw. That would have stopped most of the fighting.

I mean Killmonger worked with Klaue before killing him.
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LightHawKnight
02/17/18 7:20:38 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
Still confused on why T'Challa doesn't say anything about Killmonger's father helping Claw. That would have stopped most of the fighting.

I mean Killmonger worked with Klaue before killing him.


All of this should make W'Kabi hate Killmonger's guts.
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1NfamousACE_2
02/17/18 7:26:29 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
Still confused on why T'Challa doesn't say anything about Killmonger's father helping Claw. That would have stopped most of the fighting.

Right? Lol its like yeah you brought him...but your dad helped him


He was a kid when it happened, can't blame him for sins of the father
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sktgamer_13dude
02/17/18 7:27:18 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
Still confused on why T'Challa doesn't say anything about Killmonger's father helping Claw. That would have stopped most of the fighting.

I mean Killmonger worked with Klaue before killing him.


All of this should make W'Kabi hate Killmonger's guts.

Yeah but he also actually finally ended him. He also wanted to use the spies in a way that W'Kabi agreed with.
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LightHawKnight
02/17/18 7:28:23 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
Still confused on why T'Challa doesn't say anything about Killmonger's father helping Claw. That would have stopped most of the fighting.

I mean Killmonger worked with Klaue before killing him.


All of this should make W'Kabi hate Killmonger's guts.

Yeah but he also actually finally ended him. He also wanted to use the spies in a way that W'Kabi agreed with.


Doesn't stop the fact that if Killmonger's father didn't let Klaue in, his own parents wouldn't have died to begin with and he saved Klaue from being taken to Wakanda and therefore to him.
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