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thelovefist
02/15/18 10:33:09 AM
#52:


lilORANG posted...
The Admiral posted...
3qMnIo3

So yeah, there is something wrong with the source. It's garbage.

are you upset that you got a popup ad or that it calls for us to stand against white supremacy?

Probably because of the demagoguery it carries.
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The Admiral
02/15/18 10:33:54 AM
#53:


lilORANG posted...
are you upset that you got a popup ad or that it calls for us to stand against white supremacy?


I hope you're just trolling because I trigger you and aren't really so oblivious that you don't understand what fear-mongering propaganda is.
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Iodine
02/15/18 10:34:12 AM
#54:


I wondered what the criticisms of this movie were going to be.
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Capn Circus
02/15/18 10:35:42 AM
#55:


Ben's got a point. People are wetting themselves over this movie. It's being talked about like a cure for cancer was discovered.
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lilORANG
02/15/18 10:37:04 AM
#56:


The Admiral posted...
lilORANG posted...
are you upset that you got a popup ad or that it calls for us to stand against white supremacy?


I hope you're just trolling because I trigger you and aren't really so oblivious that you don't understand what fear-mongering propaganda is.

i like how you didn't answer the question

so click out of the ad and watch the vid if you're so concerned with the context TC put the statements in. Instead you're bitching about a source because it thinks nazis and the kkk are bad, instead of contributing a single thing to the topic. Not a great look.
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The Admiral
02/15/18 10:37:46 AM
#57:


lilORANG posted...
The Admiral posted...
lilORANG posted...
are you upset that you got a popup ad or that it calls for us to stand against white supremacy?


I hope you're just trolling because I trigger you and aren't really so oblivious that you don't understand what fear-mongering propaganda is.

i like how you didn't answer the question

so click out of the ad and watch the vid if you're so concerned with the context TC put the statements in. Instead you're bitching about a source because it thinks nazis and the kkk are bad, instead of contributing a single thing to the topic. Not a great look.


So you really are that oblivious...
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spudger
02/15/18 10:37:53 AM
#58:


ilovuuu posted...
davyheinz posted...
It confuses me that people think this man is some sort of intellectual.

I mean. the people who consider him an intellectual aren't exactly...

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lilORANG
02/15/18 10:38:44 AM
#59:


The Admiral posted...
lilORANG posted...
The Admiral posted...
lilORANG posted...
are you upset that you got a popup ad or that it calls for us to stand against white supremacy?


I hope you're just trolling because I trigger you and aren't really so oblivious that you don't understand what fear-mongering propaganda is.

i like how you didn't answer the question

so click out of the ad and watch the vid if you're so concerned with the context TC put the statements in. Instead you're bitching about a source because it thinks nazis and the kkk are bad, instead of contributing a single thing to the topic. Not a great look.


So you really are that oblivious...

your dodging is more revealing than if you just answered the question
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Iodine
02/15/18 10:39:03 AM
#60:


Capn Circus posted...
Ben's got a point. People are wetting themselves over this movie. It's being talked about like a cure for cancer was discovered.

Yeah that is pretty much the only point I agree with. The reactions have been way over the top.
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thelovefist
02/15/18 10:39:51 AM
#61:


lilORANG posted...
The Admiral posted...
lilORANG posted...
The Admiral posted...
lilORANG posted...
are you upset that you got a popup ad or that it calls for us to stand against white supremacy?


I hope you're just trolling because I trigger you and aren't really so oblivious that you don't understand what fear-mongering propaganda is.

i like how you didn't answer the question

so click out of the ad and watch the vid if you're so concerned with the context TC put the statements in. Instead you're bitching about a source because it thinks nazis and the kkk are bad, instead of contributing a single thing to the topic. Not a great look.


So you really are that oblivious...

your dodging is more revealing than if you just answered the question

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question
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lilORANG
02/15/18 10:41:39 AM
#62:


thelovefist posted...
lilORANG posted...
The Admiral posted...
lilORANG posted...
The Admiral posted...
lilORANG posted...
are you upset that you got a popup ad or that it calls for us to stand against white supremacy?


I hope you're just trolling because I trigger you and aren't really so oblivious that you don't understand what fear-mongering propaganda is.

i like how you didn't answer the question

so click out of the ad and watch the vid if you're so concerned with the context TC put the statements in. Instead you're bitching about a source because it thinks nazis and the kkk are bad, instead of contributing a single thing to the topic. Not a great look.


So you really are that oblivious...

your dodging is more revealing than if you just answered the question

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question

nah, his objection was to the ad. It could either be because it was an ad, or because of the content of the ad. One of those isn't controversial, and would be freely admitted.
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donkeyjack
02/15/18 10:42:05 AM
#63:


Ben Shapiro is racist. Along with that Crowder guy.
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Darker Cheshire
02/15/18 10:43:10 AM
#64:


Iodine posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Ben's got a point. People are wetting themselves over this movie. It's being talked about like a cure for cancer was discovered.

Yeah that is pretty much the only point I agree with. The reactions have been way over the top.


Given that Black Panther is the 18th movie released in the MCU, with a decent portion of the movies doing very well both critically and in box office.... And that Black Panther the movie is being heralded as one of the best ones out of 18 movies in it's franchise... Why is it any surprise it's going to generate excitement?

Fan reactions have a tendency to go over the top. Happens with Star Wars, Star Trek, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, etc. etc.

Let people have their fun and enjoyment with something innocent.
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Iodine
02/15/18 10:44:47 AM
#65:


Darker Cheshire posted...
Iodine posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Ben's got a point. People are wetting themselves over this movie. It's being talked about like a cure for cancer was discovered.

Yeah that is pretty much the only point I agree with. The reactions have been way over the top.


Given that Black Panther is the 18th movie released in the MCU, with a decent portion of the movies doing very well both critically and in box office.... And that Black Panther the movie is being heralded as one of the best ones out of 18 movies in it's franchise... Why is it any surprise it's going to generate excitement?

Fan reactions have a tendency to go over the top. Happens with Star Wars, Star Trek, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, etc. etc.

Let people have their fun and enjoyment with something innocent.

People are just so god damn cartoonishly over the top about it.
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KillerKhan420
02/15/18 10:45:33 AM
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Lol people hear complaining about the guy. It's all emotional shit you people live by, use logic for once, meteor man was the quintessential black hero movie, that or the last dragon, both of which (meteor man and Bruce Lee Roy) would murder the black panthers ass. Meteorman touches a book about lions, he would kill black panther. Bruce Lee Roy gets the glow, black panther dies to the only black super sayain.
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boxington
02/15/18 10:49:06 AM
#67:


KillerKhan420 posted...
Lol people hear complaining about the guy. It's all emotional shit you people live by, use logic for once, meteor man was the quintessential black hero movie, that or the last dragon, both of which (meteor man and Bruce Lee Roy) would murder the black panthers ass. Meteorman touches a book about lions, he would kill black panther. Bruce Lee Roy gets the glow, black panther dies to the only black super sayain.

I dunno why this made me laugh, but I remember really enjoying those two movies

hopefully Black Panther's success will have Marvel bringing back Blade
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Ammonitida
02/15/18 10:52:22 AM
#68:


boxington posted...
KillerKhan420 posted...
Lol people hear complaining about the guy. It's all emotional shit you people live by, use logic for once, meteor man was the quintessential black hero movie, that or the last dragon, both of which (meteor man and Bruce Lee Roy) would murder the black panthers ass. Meteorman touches a book about lions, he would kill black panther. Bruce Lee Roy gets the glow, black panther dies to the only black super sayain.

I dunno why this made me laugh, but I remember really enjoying those two movies

hopefully Black Panther's success will have Marvel bringing back Blade


We don't need anymore Blades (or anymore vampire movies for that matter). We need to resurrect Meteor Man, the first superhero satire (looking at you, Deadpool!).
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Sad_Face
02/15/18 10:55:09 AM
#69:


emblem boy posted...
I follow his Twitter, it's pretty annoying most of the time.


Why do you still follow him? His success is contingent on people giving him attention.
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KillCommunism
02/15/18 11:07:31 AM
#70:


Doom_Art posted...
BlueScum posted...
It's called rounding to the nearest hundred.

like the cuban missile crisis a hundred years ago

In another 150 years, you'll be able to say that too without sounding misinformed.
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emblem boy
02/15/18 11:10:23 AM
#71:


Sad_Face posted...
emblem boy posted...
I follow his Twitter, it's pretty annoying most of the time.


Why do you still follow him? His success is contingent on people giving him attention.


Regardless of me not liking his stuff, many people do and his talking points are used. So it seems like it's important to be aware of it...? Maybe?
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LordRazziel
02/15/18 11:13:25 AM
#72:


Unsugarized_Foo posted...
*Ben Shapiro complains about the kind of media attention Black Panther is getting

mocking African Americans who are excited about the films majority black casting.
And that.
How dare they be happy about that!!!
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Barenziah Boy Toy
02/15/18 11:13:47 AM
#73:


Iodine posted...
People are just so god damn cartoonishly over the top about it.

WTF are you talking about?
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spudger
02/15/18 11:14:34 AM
#74:


Its sad the right considers him an intellectual

Hes not racist though, just a blow hard
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The Admiral
02/15/18 11:18:55 AM
#75:


Iodine posted...
Here is the actual video with those specific quotes:


So, I watched it.

- Ben is right that the media is exaggerating the importance of this movie. This is the NY Times article about the movie, hailing this a major milestone for black America:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/12/magazine/why-black-panther-is-a-defining-moment-for-black-america.html

- Ben admits at 1:17 that he's being snide and deliberately mocking the response, which is largely due to identity politics wave behind this. This is the biggest thing cjsdowg's shit source fails to take into account when quoting him, despite mention that he was being sarcastic. That was quite deliberate.

- His anecdote about his daughter and Judaism missed the mark and doesn't help his point.
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Unsugarized_Foo
02/15/18 11:24:34 AM
#76:


I watched the video and I could care less about this
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thelovefist
02/15/18 11:26:08 AM
#77:


Unsugarized_Foo posted...
I watched the video and I could care less about this

*couldn't care less*
I'm triggered....
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Bio1590
02/15/18 11:27:08 AM
#78:


"The media is exagerrating the importance of this movie"
"How?"
"Because I'm white and I say so"
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mario2000
02/15/18 11:27:32 AM
#79:


Ben Shapiro complains

in other news dogs bark
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KingCrabCake
02/15/18 11:29:08 AM
#80:


Ben Shapiro is not racist .

But its weird like the same thing happened with Wonder Woman where people pretended that there wasnt ever a movie with a strong female lead. Same shit is happening now with Black Panther...

The movie will be underrated by racist and overrated by racist. It is what it is
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mario2000
02/15/18 11:31:08 AM
#81:


Ben Shapiro is not racist .

yea he's just mad that there's a movie starring black people

wait
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KingCrabCake
02/15/18 11:32:16 AM
#82:


mario2000 posted...
Ben Shapiro is not racist .

yea he's just mad that there's a movie starring black people

wait


....lmao
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LordRazziel
02/15/18 11:38:39 AM
#83:


KingCrabCake posted...
Ben Shapiro is not racist .

But its weird like the same thing happened with Wonder Woman where people pretended that there wasnt ever a movie with a strong female lead. Same shit is happening now with Black Panther...

The movie will be underrated by racist and overrated by racist. It is what it is

Not saying I know what's in his heart, but why would he be upset that there are black people who are happy about a black cast?
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TheVipaGTS
02/15/18 11:39:48 AM
#84:


"if you're happy and supportive of black panther you're a racist...somehow"...CE Logic.
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lolife67
02/15/18 11:40:53 AM
#86:


KingCrabCake posted...
Ben Shapiro is not racist .

But its weird like the same thing happened with Wonder Woman where people pretended that there wasnt ever a movie with a strong female lead. Same shit is happening now with Black Panther...

The movie will be underrated by racist and overrated by racist. It is what it is

How are people who are happy with the film racists?
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TheVipaGTS
02/15/18 11:41:57 AM
#87:


thelovefist posted...
....I don't think anyone said that...

KingCrab said it will be "overrated by racists"....apparently if you really like the film you're just racist and are only doing so because its an all black cast.
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nicklebro
02/15/18 11:42:25 AM
#88:


The Admiral posted...
Iodine posted...
Here is the actual video with those specific quotes:


So, I watched it.

- Ben is right that the media is exaggerating the importance of this movie. This is the NY Times article about the movie, hailing this a major milestone for black America:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/12/magazine/why-black-panther-is-a-defining-moment-for-black-america.html

- Ben admits at 1:17 that he's being snide and deliberately mocking the response, which is largely due to identity politics wave behind this. This is the biggest thing cjsdowg's shit source fails to take into account when quoting him, despite mention that he was being sarcastic. That was quite deliberate.

- His anecdote about his daughter and Judaism missed the mark and doesn't help his point.

So the worst part of TCs source is something they didn't say, that being ben admitting to being snide. Hmmm....
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The Admiral
02/15/18 11:43:01 AM
#89:


mario2000 posted...
Ben Shapiro is not racist .

yea he's just mad that there's a movie starring black people

wait


I really wish this board had users with reading comprehension worth a shit.

Ben has absolutely no issue with the movie itself. His criticism is squarely of the media narrative and the SJWs who are blowing this up due to identity politics. And he's not wrong about either of those.
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thelovefist
02/15/18 11:43:07 AM
#90:


TheVipaGTS posted...
thelovefist posted...
....I don't think anyone said that...

KingCrab said it will be "overrated by racists"....apparently if you really like the film you're just racist and are only doing so because its an all black cast.

Yeah I understand how his comments could be taken that way. This is why I deleted my post.
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The Great Muta 22
02/15/18 11:44:14 AM
#91:


Yes, how dare people be happy or excited over a movie.

Shapiro's a ridiculous person, and he can use the sarcastic excuse all he wants but we all know there's always true feelings in sarcasm.
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The Admiral
02/15/18 11:44:16 AM
#92:


nicklebro posted...
The Admiral posted...
Iodine posted...
Here is the actual video with those specific quotes:


So, I watched it.

- Ben is right that the media is exaggerating the importance of this movie. This is the NY Times article about the movie, hailing this a major milestone for black America:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/12/magazine/why-black-panther-is-a-defining-moment-for-black-america.html

- Ben admits at 1:17 that he's being snide and deliberately mocking the response, which is largely due to identity politics wave behind this. This is the biggest thing cjsdowg's shit source fails to take into account when quoting him, despite mention that he was being sarcastic. That was quite deliberate.

- His anecdote about his daughter and Judaism missed the mark and doesn't help his point.

So the worst part of TCs source is something they didn't say, that being ben admitting to being snide. Hmmm....


It completely misstated Ben's point in the title.
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hyperpsycho
02/15/18 11:44:26 AM
#93:


Did anyone else get Mal_Fet vibes from this?
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mario2000
02/15/18 11:45:32 AM
#94:


if you admit to being snide you're not strengthening your argument, you're discrediting it, because you're admitting that you aren't being earnest and you're just acting like a bitch for the sake of acting like a bitch
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The Admiral
02/15/18 11:46:09 AM
#95:


mario2000 posted...
if you admit to being snide you're not strengthening your argument, you're discrediting it, because you're admitting that you aren't being earnest and you're just acting like a bitch for the sake of acting like a bitch


You didn't understand Ben's argument, so stop posting.
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Sad_Face
02/15/18 11:47:42 AM
#96:


emblem boy posted...
Sad_Face posted...
emblem boy posted...
I follow his Twitter, it's pretty annoying most of the time.


Why do you still follow him? His success is contingent on people giving him attention.


Regardless of me not liking his stuff, many people do and his talking points are used. So it seems like it's important to be aware of it...? Maybe?


Dude, you don't need to have an opinion on everything. If you want to join in on the conversations, then yes, you should know what you're talking about. But you've admitted you don't like it most of the time. Why bother subject yourself to such... negative energy? So what if other people talk about him? Ignore it and move on. Holding on to things that irritate you, annoy you, and are generally unpleasant will take a toll on your life one way or another.
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The Great Muta 22
02/15/18 11:48:10 AM
#97:


mario2000 posted...
if you admit to being snide you're not strengthening your argument, you're discrediting it, because you're admitting that you aren't being earnest and you're just acting like a bitch for the sake of acting like a bitch


Yep. Shapiro and his fanboys bitch incessantly about "identity politics" while at the same time playing those cards all the time. But no, it's somehow different because he's just complaining about them. Oh, and wait, he's only being sarcastic!

Please
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nicklebro
02/15/18 11:49:19 AM
#98:


The Admiral posted...

It completely misstated Ben's point in the title.

That's not true. Sure it lacked nuance and context, but it's still accurate. "Completely misstated" is definitely a complete misstatement.
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ASithLord7
02/15/18 11:50:46 AM
#99:


The irony of Admiral of all people complaining about biased sources
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LordRazziel
02/15/18 11:51:31 AM
#100:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
mario2000 posted...
if you admit to being snide you're not strengthening your argument, you're discrediting it, because you're admitting that you aren't being earnest and you're just acting like a bitch for the sake of acting like a bitch


Yep. Shapiro and his fanboys bitch incessantly about "identity politics" while at the same time playing those cards all the time. But no, it's somehow different because he's just complaining about them. Oh, and wait, he's only being sarcastic!

Please

It's the same with the narrative argument. It's not truly about narratives and identity politics, it's about whose narrative and identity.
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The Admiral
02/15/18 11:51:42 AM
#101:


nicklebro posted...
The Admiral posted...

It completely misstated Ben's point in the title.

That's not true. Sure it lacked nuance and context, but it's still accurate. "Completely misstated" is definitely a complete misstatement.


The title says Ben is shitting on excited black people, when he does no such thing. So yes, it is completely misstated and is clickbait to lure gullible readers like the TC.
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The Admiral
02/15/18 11:52:44 AM
#102:


ASithLord7 posted...
The irony of Admiral of all people complaining about biased sources


This is the third time this week you've shown off that you don't know what irony means.
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