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Zareth 02/25/18 12:20:16 PM #448: |
Jen0125 posted...
allowing a digital database of gun owners Still blows my fucking mind that this isn't a thing. Like what the dick, man. --- It's okay, I have no idea who I am either. http://i.imgur.com/WOo6wcq.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VioletZer0 02/25/18 12:24:35 PM #449: |
streamofthesky posted...
Civilians need tanks, the government has them. I agree with all of these except for Biological Weapons. Governments are banned from having those. Btw, did you know that ALL of those (except biological weapons) are protected under 2nd Amendment? Yes, even nukes. There's even a thing where you're not allowed to possess the nuclear material, but if they successfully classify it as a bomb then you are legally allowed to possess it. Crazy stuff right? And yeah I do think that should remain in place. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ASlaveObeys 02/25/18 12:26:48 PM #450: |
Zareth posted...
Jen0125 posted...allowing a digital database of gun owners Massachusetts has one. Is it just not a federal thing? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VioletZer0 02/25/18 12:27:41 PM #451: |
streamofthesky posted...
Regardless of whether or not your definition truly captures what an "assault weapon" means, you've only defined its use for a military purpose, fighting similarly armed enemies at long range. A handgun is -Easier to conceal -Can carry a lot of them -Easier to handle in a chaotic situation. The only benefit I see to an assault rifle is that it is somewhat more effective at range. But the concealment is far more dangerous because it allows you to get into a more advantageous position before starting your attack. BTW: Do not ever ever EVER let the government ban something just because "You don't need it." Make them thoroughly justify every single thing they want to ban ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 02/25/18 12:29:12 PM #452: |
VioletZer0 posted...
streamofthesky posted...Civilians need tanks, the government has them. It figures you'd agree with blatant satire, you probably read the Onion as actual news events, too. And do you REALLY think the US doesn't have biological weapons? I did intend to say chemical weapons, though. Which US definitely has and I definitely don't want normal people able to stockpile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VioletZer0 02/25/18 12:30:47 PM #453: |
I still think civilians should abide by rules of war even if the government has chemical weapons.
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Jen0125 02/25/18 12:44:07 PM #454: |
Troll_Police_ posted...
Why is this the fifth time I have to say again that I already know my personal desire is not realistic? Why do you keep ignoring it? People can have preferences and understand that it's not going to happen. I'm not even going to read the rest of your post or reply anything else to you until you stop cherry picking this issue. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TyVulpine 02/25/18 12:45:01 PM #455: |
VioletZer0 posted...
streamofthesky posted...Regardless of whether or not your definition truly captures what an "assault weapon" means, you've only defined its use for a military purpose, fighting similarly armed enemies at long range. Can you justify a need for civilians to need assault weapons? No, there is absolutely no logical reason for civilians to need assault weapons, as they're designed for one purpose: to kill as many people as possible. --- Fall down, go boom... Life is like a box of chocolates. Most of it is crap. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 02/25/18 12:47:14 PM #456: |
I saw that the Tec-9 is legal in many places now.
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Revelation34 02/25/18 12:50:42 PM #457: |
Troll_Police_ posted...
I love how you didn't answer the question. VioletZer0 posted... Civilians need "assault weapons" the government has them. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TyVulpine 02/25/18 12:51:02 PM #458: |
VioletZer0 posted...
TyVulpine posted...Jen0125 posted...VioletZer0 posted...Jen0125 posted...VioletZer0 posted...Sure we all know that the war on drugs was an utter failure. A big ol' racist failure. M-1, AR-15, etc. Fully automatic (and even semi-automatic) designed to fire several hundred rounds a minute to kill as many people as possible in as short a timespan as possible. See the Las Vegas shooting as a prime example. Now, imagine when (not if) someone that has an AR-15 (because they weren't banned) shoots and kills 100+ people, perhaps a family member of your's. Everyone says "Oh, it won't happen to me or my family!"...until it does and then it becomes "Why didn't I do something when I had the chance, then (person) would still be alive today!". Don't wait until it's too late. ACT NOW. --- Fall down, go boom... Life is like a box of chocolates. Most of it is crap. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Troll_Police_ 02/25/18 12:52:14 PM #459: |
Jen0125 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted... its not just unrealistic though. its downright asinine and tyrannical. so instead you step it back and say "ok, so if people wont accept full blown tyranny, how about just a LITTLE tyranny?" --- Is this going to be one of those times when you pretend not to have a plan until the last moment? And then turn out to really not have one? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SkynyrdRocker 02/25/18 12:52:31 PM #460: |
Why are you guys still arguing with these nutjobs? You can't convince gun nuts of anything reasonable because they don't live in reality.
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Troll_Police_ 02/25/18 12:56:33 PM #461: |
TyVulpine posted...
VioletZer0 posted...TyVulpine posted...Jen0125 posted...VioletZer0 posted...Jen0125 posted...VioletZer0 posted...Sure we all know that the war on drugs was an utter failure. A big ol' racist failure. again though, handguns kill WAY more people, so why do you have such a boner for assault weapons? also, you are just fear mongering. "YOU SHOULD BE AFRAID! YOU MIGHT SAVE YOUR FAMILY IF YOU GIVE UP YOUR FREEDOM!" seriously. get bent buddy. --- Is this going to be one of those times when you pretend not to have a plan until the last moment? And then turn out to really not have one? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 02/25/18 12:57:42 PM #462: |
SkynyrdRocker posted...
Why are you guys still arguing with these nutjobs? You can't convince gun nuts of anything reasonable because they don't live in reality. Two main reasons: 1) So anytime they seep out of their crevices and spout their BS, a cascade of voices fight back and let them know they're wrong. They may be delusional, but even they can't ignore being disdained by the vast majority of the populace. They'll cry "bias" or claim everyone other than them is "brain washed" or such, but they're at least forced to confront the fact that they're in the tiny minority. Still better than remaining silent and letting them maintain the illusion that everyone agrees with them, because no one's arguing against them. 2) In relation to the last point above; it's not to convince the nut so much as to convince anyone else reading the topic who might confuse silence for agreement. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blighboy 02/25/18 12:58:36 PM #463: |
Classic edition gun nuts: "Cars kill more people than guns, why not just ban cars?"
Deluxe limited edition gun pistachios: "Smaller guns kill more people than my deathatron dual-bladed widowraper, why not just ban smaller guns?" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 02/25/18 1:00:23 PM #464: |
Troll_Police_ posted...
Jen0125 posted...Troll_Police_ posted... We understand you don't like my opinion that I'm not even pushing as a political agenda and that you can't seem to be intelligent enough to understand that despite being told repeatedly. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TyVulpine 02/25/18 1:00:32 PM #465: |
Troll_Police_ posted...
again though, handguns kill WAY more people, so why do you have such a boner for assault weapons? How is banning assault weapons giving up your freedom? You aren't, buddy. We're getting rid of something no civilians need. Period. Get bent yourself and get a life. --- Fall down, go boom... Life is like a box of chocolates. Most of it is crap. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Troll_Police_ 02/25/18 1:00:57 PM #466: |
Blighboy posted...
Classic edition gun nuts: "Cars kill more people than guns, why not just ban cars?" not at all the point. the point is to break your terrible argument down to its logical conclusion, a blanket gun ban. once youve gotten your opponent to say what they actually want, and what they actually mean, its much easier to shit all over them --- Is this going to be one of those times when you pretend not to have a plan until the last moment? And then turn out to really not have one? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Troll_Police_ 02/25/18 1:01:59 PM #467: |
TyVulpine posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...again though, handguns kill WAY more people, so why do you have such a boner for assault weapons? who are you to say what i do and dont need? who are you to say what luxuries that i dont need i am and am not allowed to have? your argument is bad, and all you do is fearmonger. period. --- Is this going to be one of those times when you pretend not to have a plan until the last moment? And then turn out to really not have one? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 02/25/18 1:02:03 PM #468: |
I am struggling to understand if schmen truly believes that gun control and regulation is either a blanket ban or a total allowance of all guns with no area in between.
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Foppe 02/25/18 1:03:21 PM #469: |
TyVulpine posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...again though, handguns kill WAY more people, so why do you have such a boner for assault weapons? B.b.but we need them because they are the only thing that prevents <insert currently elected President> from turning USA into a dictatorship over a night!!! --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Troll_Police_ 02/25/18 1:04:05 PM #470: |
Jen0125 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...Jen0125 posted...Troll_Police_ posted... i think you need to reread that are you saying that i dont understand that you understand that i know your opinion is objectively bad? because i do. in fact i will say it again right here I know your opinion is objectively bad, and i know that you understand that fact --- Is this going to be one of those times when you pretend not to have a plan until the last moment? And then turn out to really not have one? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 02/25/18 1:08:35 PM #471: |
Troll_Police_ posted...
who are you to say what i do and dont need? who are you to say what luxuries that i dont need i am and am not allowed to have? You still haven't given a reason why a civilian needs one. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 02/25/18 1:12:30 PM #472: |
Just FYI guys schmen also thinks there should be no taxes because civilians would appropriately donate to charities to keep society functioning.
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TyVulpine 02/25/18 1:12:41 PM #473: |
Troll_Police_ posted...
who are you to say what i do and dont need? who are you to say what luxuries that i dont need i am and am not allowed to have? Can you give one, just ONE, valid reason why a civilian needs an assault rifle? Are they planning to storm a terrorist cell hideout? A military base? Come on, I want to know! --- Fall down, go boom... Life is like a box of chocolates. Most of it is crap. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VioletZer0 02/25/18 1:40:44 PM #474: |
TyVulpine posted...
VioletZer0 posted...TyVulpine posted...Jen0125 posted...VioletZer0 posted...Jen0125 posted...VioletZer0 posted...Sure we all know that the war on drugs was an utter failure. A big ol' racist failure. Fully automatic AR-15's are basically banned(you can still get it but it is prohibitively expensive, rare, and you need a special license.) So we are talking about the semi automatic that can only fire 45 rounds per minute tops. How is that deadlier than a handgun? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nade Duck 02/25/18 1:41:13 PM #475: |
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VioletZer0 02/25/18 1:42:10 PM #476: |
TyVulpine posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...who are you to say what i do and dont need? who are you to say what luxuries that i dont need i am and am not allowed to have? We need it because we may need to fight the government some day. At the very least having is a deterrent from the government. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 02/25/18 1:46:23 PM #477: |
Perhaps you should vote better instead of being scared?
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VioletZer0 02/25/18 1:47:14 PM #478: |
I personally think machine guns should be legal because ever since the Thompson SMG portable machine guns readily available to the public and legal for more than 60 years without problems.
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VioletZer0 02/25/18 1:48:16 PM #479: |
Foppe posted...
Perhaps you should vote better instead of being scared? Oh jee why didn't I think of that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 02/25/18 1:49:52 PM #480: |
VioletZer0 posted...
Foppe posted...Perhaps you should vote better instead of being scared? We found a solution! --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TyVulpine 02/25/18 1:50:02 PM #481: |
VioletZer0 posted...
TyVulpine posted...Troll_Police_ posted...who are you to say what i do and dont need? who are you to say what luxuries that i dont need i am and am not allowed to have? The government has military drones, long range missiles, smart bombs, fighter planes, etc. your AR-15 wouldnt do much good then. --- Fall down, go boom... Life is like a box of chocolates. Most of it is crap. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VioletZer0 02/25/18 1:52:33 PM #482: |
TyVulpine posted...
VioletZer0 posted...TyVulpine posted...Troll_Police_ posted...who are you to say what i do and dont need? who are you to say what luxuries that i dont need i am and am not allowed to have? We have all of this and we still can't beat a bunch of insurgents with cheap rifles, IEDs and trucks. Almost like infantry has been and always shall be a vast majority of warfare. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Troll_Police_ 02/25/18 1:55:25 PM #483: |
Jen0125 posted...
Just FYI guys schmen also thinks there should be no taxes because civilians would appropriately donate to charities to keep society functioning. hey, i do. are you saying you wouldnt? or are you saying that most people are self serving piles of shit that dont DESERVE saving? either way, it seems like your argument is folding on itself edit: also its not just the charities. youve vastly oversimplified matters. i guess it breaks down to me being willing to let humanity thrive or crumble on its own merits, across board. --- Is this going to be one of those times when you pretend not to have a plan until the last moment? And then turn out to really not have one? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Troll_Police_ 02/25/18 1:57:06 PM #484: |
TyVulpine posted...
VioletZer0 posted...TyVulpine posted...Troll_Police_ posted...who are you to say what i do and dont need? who are you to say what luxuries that i dont need i am and am not allowed to have? so in other words, we need to give civilians access to military drones, long range missiles, smart bombs, fighter planes, etc.so that they can effectively combat the government? that's an interesting perspective. seems like a total 180 from someone who pisses their pants at the mention of an "assault weapons" --- Is this going to be one of those times when you pretend not to have a plan until the last moment? And then turn out to really not have one? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VioletZer0 02/25/18 1:57:53 PM #485: |
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TyVulpine 02/25/18 2:01:13 PM #486: |
VioletZer0 posted...
TyVulpine posted...VioletZer0 posted...TyVulpine posted...Troll_Police_ posted...who are you to say what i do and dont need? who are you to say what luxuries that i dont need i am and am not allowed to have? Its hard to beat an enemy that dresses like civilians, so you cant tell whos a terrorist. --- Fall down, go boom... Life is like a box of chocolates. Most of it is crap. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 02/25/18 2:01:33 PM #487: |
VioletZer0 posted...
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VioletZer0 02/25/18 2:03:47 PM #488: |
TyVulpine posted...
VioletZer0 posted...TyVulpine posted...VioletZer0 posted...TyVulpine posted...Troll_Police_ posted...who are you to say what i do and dont need? who are you to say what luxuries that i dont need i am and am not allowed to have? It would be impossible for civilians to dress as themselves in their own country. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VioletZer0 02/25/18 2:14:49 PM #489: |
If you think the government would go on wonton slaughter of their civilians...
Their people is their capital. The country cannot function without people. If they did that, not only would they lose their capital but it would turn the decision of "Rebel or Comply" into a battle of survival. It would create far more insurgents. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 02/25/18 2:17:21 PM #490: |
Why would the military join dictator Trump in the first place?
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streamofthesky 02/25/18 2:17:28 PM #491: |
"The people need AR-15's to defend themselves from the government."
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TyVulpine 02/25/18 2:18:06 PM #492: |
VioletZer0 posted...
If you think the government would go on wonton slaughter of their civilians... Tell that to Nazi Germany, Soviet Union, China, Vietnam, North Korea, etc. --- Fall down, go boom... Life is like a box of chocolates. Most of it is crap. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 02/25/18 2:23:26 PM #493: |
Look at America today.
Why would the US military earn at slaughtering its own civilians? Why would they join dictator Trump? Because they want more military parades? --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VioletZer0 02/25/18 2:24:27 PM #494: |
streamofthesky posted...
"The people need AR-15's to defend themselves from the government." They wouldn't slaughter, but they would enslave. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VioletZer0 02/25/18 2:25:36 PM #495: |
TyVulpine posted...
VioletZer0 posted...If you think the government would go on wonton slaughter of their civilians... All of the above aim to enslave their citizens not kill them all. The genocides were aimed at a specific demographic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 02/25/18 2:28:31 PM #496: |
VioletZer0 posted...
streamofthesky posted..."The people need AR-15's to defend themselves from the government." The military is made up of regular people voluntarily enlisting, who swear an oath to the Constitution, not the president. Your dystopian fantasies are laughable, but please, keep entertaining us. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VioletZer0 02/25/18 2:28:36 PM #497: |
The only way I can interpret this thread is that you think a weapon being "military assault grade" gives it shootiness+10
literally ork logic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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