Board 8 > Having just been hit by it, I STILL feel no sympathy for rioters hit by OC

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Kenri 02/10/18 6:18:00 PM #52:	StealThisSheen posted... Where did I say "When police are literally torturing you" in order to make these things equal? ...it's a topic about pepper spray, dude --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:895842743] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>Where did I say "When police are literally torturing you" in order to make these things equal?</quote> ...it's a topic about pepper spray, dude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 02/10/18 6:28:24 PM #53:	Kenri posted... StealThisSheen posted... Where did I say "When police are literally torturing you" in order to make these things equal? ...it's a topic about pepper spray, dude So you're okay with comparing rioters being pepper sprayed to somebody being raped? I'd just like to go full on record here that you're saying rioters being pepper sprayed is literally torture that should be compared to rape. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:895843310] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kenri posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>Where did I say "When police are literally torturing you" in order to make these things equal?</quote> ...it's a topic about pepper spray, dude</quote> So you're okay with comparing rioters being pepper sprayed to somebody being raped? I'd just like to go full on record here that you're saying rioters being pepper sprayed is literally torture that should be compared to rape.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 02/10/18 6:40:23 PM #54:	Oh don't worry, police rape people too so we can do a one to one comparison. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:895844010] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote>Oh don't worry, police rape people too so we can do a one to one comparison.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 02/10/18 6:43:09 PM #55:	There's something seriously wrong with you if you think police pepper spraying rioters that refuse to stop is on the same level as somebody being raped. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:895844158] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote>There's something seriously wrong with you if you think police pepper spraying rioters that refuse to stop is on the same level as somebody being raped.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 02/10/18 6:47:42 PM #56:	I think you might need to go back and reread the arguments people, including yourself, are actually making, instead of the version of their arguments that only exists in your head. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:895844379] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote>I think you might need to go back and reread the arguments people, including yourself, are actually making, instead of the version of their arguments that only exists in your head.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 02/10/18 6:50:12 PM #57:	Mr Lasastryke posted... StealThisSheen posted... So we're comparing rape to dealing with police now if the police is literally torturing you that's not too far off from rape, no. I asked if we're comparing rape to dealing with the police. Lasa responded with that. I responded that I wasn't talking about literally torturing somebody, to which you responded with Kenri posted... StealThisSheen posted... Where did I say "When police are literally torturing you" in order to make these things equal? ...it's a topic about pepper spray, dude Implying pepper spray IS torture. So unless I'm reading it wrong, you're supporting the thought that pepper spraying is "not far off" from rape. I even asked for clarification StealThisSheen posted... Kenri posted... StealThisSheen posted... Where did I say "When police are literally torturing you" in order to make these things equal? ...it's a topic about pepper spray, dude So you're okay with comparing rioters being pepper sprayed to somebody being raped? I'd just like to go full on record here that you're saying rioters being pepper sprayed is literally torture that should be compared to rape. And you did not deny it. So...? --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:895844507] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>So we're comparing rape to dealing with police now</quote> if the police is literally torturing you that's not too far off from rape, no.</quote> I asked if we're comparing rape to dealing with the police. Lasa responded with that. I responded that I wasn't talking about literally torturing somebody, to which you responded with <cite>Kenri posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>Where did I say "When police are literally torturing you" in order to make these things equal?</quote> ...it's a topic about pepper spray, dude</quote> Implying pepper spray IS torture. So unless I'm reading it wrong, you're supporting the thought that pepper spraying is "not far off" from rape. I even asked for clarification <cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kenri posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>Where did I say "When police are literally torturing you" in order to make these things equal?</quote> ...it's a topic about pepper spray, dude</quote> So you're okay with comparing rioters being pepper sprayed to somebody being raped? I'd just like to go full on record here that you're saying rioters being pepper sprayed is literally torture that should be compared to rape.</quote> And you did not deny it. So...?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trdl23 02/10/18 6:54:02 PM #58:	The problem is you're assuming that the people on the receiving end of pepper spray really are dangerous rioters just because the police say they are. Sometimes, sure, but often it's just hard to believe them. --- E come vivo? Vivo! <cite>trdl23 posted [p:895844704] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote>The problem is you're assuming that the people on the receiving end of pepper spray really are dangerous rioters just because the police say they are. Sometimes, sure, but often it's just hard to believe them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 02/10/18 6:55:26 PM #59:	trdl23 posted... The problem is you're assuming that the people on the receiving end of pepper spray really are dangerous rioters just because the police say they are. Sometimes, sure, but often it's just hard to believe them. No, actually, my post is clear that in the question/scenario proposed, they are, in fact, rioters, so... --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:895844788] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote><cite>trdl23 posted...</cite> <quote>The problem is you're assuming that the people on the receiving end of pepper spray really are dangerous rioters just because the police say they are. Sometimes, sure, but often it's just hard to believe them.</quote> No, actually, my post is clear that in the question/scenario proposed, they are, in fact, rioters, so...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 02/10/18 6:55:49 PM #60:	StealThisSheen posted... And you did not deny it. So...? oh man why would i not dignify your stupid attempt to trap me with a real response man i wonder lasa's been referring to pepper spray as torture since early in the topic fyi --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:895844804] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>And you did not deny it. So...?</quote> oh man why would i not dignify your stupid attempt to trap me with a real response man i wonder lasa's been referring to pepper spray as torture since early in the topic fyi</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 02/10/18 6:57:31 PM #61:	Kenri posted... StealThisSheen posted... And you did not deny it. So...? oh man why would i not dignify your stupid attempt to trap me with a real response man i wonder lasa's been referring to pepper spray as torture since early in the topic fyi I'm not trying to trap you, I'm asking a question. Do you, personally, think pepper spray is torture that is not far off from rape? You're the one that responded to me first, so I asked for clarification. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:895844884] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kenri posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>And you did not deny it. So...?</quote> oh man why would i not dignify your stupid attempt to trap me with a real response man i wonder lasa's been referring to pepper spray as torture since early in the topic fyi</quote> I'm not trying to trap you, I'm asking a question. Do you, personally, think pepper spray is torture that is not far off from rape? You're the one that responded to me first, so I asked for clarification.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 02/10/18 6:59:48 PM #62:	I'll answer that if you answer whether torture and/or rape fit under the "anything that happens to you" that people deserve for not obeying the police. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:895845004] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote>I'll answer that if you answer whether torture and/or rape fit under the "anything that happens to you" that people deserve for not obeying the police.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 02/10/18 7:01:59 PM #63:	i mean, in the opening post we have someone describing getting pepper sprayed as "the spiciest rack of hot wings getting all kinds of thrown in your face while satan stabs you in the eyes with a flaming pitchfork." are we really going to have a serious debate on whether or not it actually qualifies as torture? --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:895845127] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote>i mean, in the opening post we have someone describing getting pepper sprayed as "the spiciest rack of hot wings getting all kinds of thrown in your face while satan stabs you in the eyes with a flaming pitchfork." are we really going to have a serious debate on whether or not it actually qualifies as torture?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 02/10/18 7:04:40 PM #64:	Kenri posted... I'll answer that if you answer whether torture and/or rape fit under the "anything that happens to you" that people deserve for not obeying the police. No, and I'll freely admit that "anything that happens to you" is too broad. I mean in the course of what would be expected of what SHOULD be normal police procedure. If you fight a cop after committing a crime, then yes, you deserve to be pepper sprayed or tazed. If you try to kill a cop, yes, you deserve to be shot. And so on. Rape is not something that a normal person would consider as something that would be common to happen while being apprehended by police. Can it happen? Absolutely. But your teacher can rape you, as well. So can a family member, and so on. So just because people who have happened to be police have raped people before, that does not make it fair to lump that in with police procedure. Likewise, I do not consider pepper spray to be torture if it is being used to stop you from doing something illegal after you have refused to stop. Could it be torture? Sure, if you're doing nothing wrong and they're just blasting you for no reason. But if it's used as a deterrent because you are refusing to stop, then no, it's not torture. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:895845262] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kenri posted...</cite> <quote>I'll answer that if you answer whether torture and/or rape fit under the "anything that happens to you" that people deserve for not obeying the police.</quote> No, and I'll freely admit that "anything that happens to you" is too broad. I mean in the course of what would be expected of what SHOULD be normal police procedure. If you fight a cop after committing a crime, then yes, you deserve to be pepper sprayed or tazed. If you try to kill a cop, yes, you deserve to be shot. And so on. Rape is not something that a normal person would consider as something that would be common to happen while being apprehended by police. Can it happen? Absolutely. But your teacher can rape you, as well. So can a family member, and so on. So just because people who have happened to be police have raped people before, that does not make it fair to lump that in with police procedure. Likewise, I do not consider pepper spray to be torture if it is being used to stop you from doing something illegal after you have refused to stop. Could it be torture? Sure, if you're doing nothing wrong and they're just blasting you for no reason. But if it's used as a deterrent because you are refusing to stop, then no, it's not torture.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 02/10/18 7:07:05 PM #65:	Mr Lasastryke posted... i mean, in the opening post we have someone describing getting pepper sprayed as "the spiciest rack of hot wings getting all kinds of thrown in your face while satan stabs you in the eyes with a flaming pitchfork." are we really going to have a serious debate on whether or not it actually qualifies as torture? The pain could be considered "torture," but the act of pepper spraying somebody is not automatically an act of torturing somebody. I mean, people often say things like "Man, that test was torture," or "Work was torture today," but that does not literally mean they were being tortured. The act of torturing somebody has taken on a different meaning than the basic definition. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:895845397] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote>i mean, in the opening post we have someone describing getting pepper sprayed as "the spiciest rack of hot wings getting all kinds of thrown in your face while satan stabs you in the eyes with a flaming pitchfork." are we really going to have a serious debate on whether or not it actually qualifies as torture?</quote> The pain could be considered "torture," but the act of pepper spraying somebody is not automatically an act of torturing somebody. I mean, people often say things like "Man, that test was torture," or "Work was torture today," but that does not literally mean they were being tortured. The act of torturing somebody has taken on a different meaning than the basic definition.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 02/10/18 7:07:09 PM #66:	StealThisSheen posted... I mean in the course of what would be expected what SHOULD be normal police procedure. tbh you might have considered clarifying this like 50 posts ago Anyway to answer, they're comparable as forms of assault/violent control in some cases but there's a difference of degree, and in a generic comparison I'd obviously consider rape far more heinous. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:895845402] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote> I mean in the course of what would be expected what SHOULD be normal police procedure.</quote> tbh you might have considered clarifying this like 50 posts ago Anyway to answer, they're comparable as forms of assault/violent control in some cases but there's a difference of degree, and in a generic comparison I'd obviously consider rape far more heinous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 02/10/18 7:07:41 PM #67:	StealThisSheen posted... Likewise, I do not consider pepper spray to be torture if it is being used to stop you from doing something illegal after you have refused to stop. that's an interesting definition of torture you have there. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:895845433] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>Likewise, I do not consider pepper spray to be torture if it is being used to stop you from doing something illegal after you have refused to stop.</quote> that's an interesting definition of torture you have there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 02/10/18 7:08:31 PM #68:	Kenri posted... StealThisSheen posted... I mean in the course of what would be expected what SHOULD be normal police procedure. tbh you might have considered clarifying this like 50 posts ago It shouldn't need to be clarified unless you're automatically assuming the worst. "Rape" is not a normal thing that happens when police are arresting somebody. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:895845498] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kenri posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote> I mean in the course of what would be expected what SHOULD be normal police procedure.</quote> tbh you might have considered clarifying this like 50 posts ago</quote> It shouldn't need to be clarified unless you're automatically assuming the worst. "Rape" is not a normal thing that happens when police are arresting somebody.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 02/10/18 7:09:49 PM #69:	Mr Lasastryke posted... StealThisSheen posted... Likewise, I do not consider pepper spray to be torture if it is being used to stop you from doing something illegal after you have refused to stop. that's an interesting definition of torture you have there. Not at all. If I punch you to stop you from kicking a child, I'm not torturing you no matter how much pain it caused you. If they spray you to stop you from destroying something or attacking somebody, they aren't torturing you. If you've already stopped and they keep doing it, or you weren't doing anything to begin with? Then yes, it's torture. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:895845570] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>Likewise, I do not consider pepper spray to be torture if it is being used to stop you from doing something illegal after you have refused to stop.</quote> that's an interesting definition of torture you have there.</quote> Not at all. If I punch you to stop you from kicking a child, I'm not torturing you no matter how much pain it caused you. If they spray you to stop you from destroying something or attacking somebody, they aren't torturing you. If you've already stopped and they keep doing it, or you weren't doing anything to begin with? Then yes, it's torture.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 02/10/18 7:12:43 PM #70:	Kenri posted... StealThisSheen posted... I mean in the course of what would be expected what SHOULD be normal police procedure. tbh you might have considered clarifying this like 50 posts ago Anyway to answer, they're comparable as forms of assault/violent control in some cases but there's a difference of degree, and in a generic comparison I'd obviously consider rape far more heinous. Thank you. Then my "there's something wrong with you if" post certainly does not apply to you. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:895845726] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kenri posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote> I mean in the course of what would be expected what SHOULD be normal police procedure.</quote> tbh you might have considered clarifying this like 50 posts ago Anyway to answer, they're comparable as forms of assault/violent control in some cases but there's a difference of degree, and in a generic comparison I'd obviously consider rape far more heinous.</quote> Thank you. Then my "there's something wrong with you if" post certainly does not apply to you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 02/11/18 5:56:46 PM #71:	StealThisSheen posted... So we're comparing rape to dealing with police now Yes, when you advocate for victim blaming, you have made this comparison yourself. I only pointed out. --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:895899499] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>So we're comparing rape to dealing with police now</quote> Yes, when you advocate for victim blaming, you have made this comparison yourself. I only pointed out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 02/11/18 5:57:38 PM #72:	StealThisSheen posted... Cool. I'm out. Stick to this though --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:895899540] in Having jus... [t:76301078]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>Cool. I'm out.</quote> Stick to this though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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