Current Events > (Serious) Can you dislike cops even if you never personally had a bad experience

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with them?
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No, you are a racist if you do
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isnt that like 70% of the population
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The majority of CE hates cops and has likely never personally interacted with them. It's the typical adolescent rebellion against authority mindset.
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I guess if you hear a lot of bad about them from people you trust.
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The Admiral posted...

The majority of CE hates cops and has likely never personally interacted with them. It's the typical adolescent rebellion against authority mindset.

As opposed to the typical neckbeard fetishization of authority mindset.

Probably common among people who'd become forum moderators.

You can be critical of anyone without having direct interactions with them. Some cops do bad things and we can see that the system is set up horribly to deter those bad things from happening. Ill never understand why demanding better of an organization that is far from perfect is such a bad thing.
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The Admiral posted...

The majority of CE hates cops and has likely never personally interacted with them. It's the typical adolescent rebellion against authority mindset.

And you hate Muslims without personally interacting with them. Its the typical conservative against minority mindset.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

The Admiral posted...

The majority of CE hates cops and has likely never personally interacted with them. It's the typical adolescent rebellion against authority mindset.

And you hate Muslims without personally interacting with them. Its the typical conservative against minority mindset.

Literally every part of your post is wrong, which is an impressive level of embarrassment. And that's saying a lot for someone who frequently melts down here like you do.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

Ill never understand why demanding better of an organization that is far from perfect is such a bad thing.

KhlavicLanguage posted...

neckbeard fetishization of authority

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TheVipaGTS posted...

You can be critical of anyone without having direct interactions with them. Some cops do bad things and we can see that the system is set up horribly to deter those bad things from happening. Ill never understand why demanding better of an organization that is far from perfect is such a bad thing.

And some of us do good things and the people who do bad things are far and few between. There's internal affairs catching shit like that quickly a lot of cops don't like cop scumbags. Most of the incidents on the tv aren't bad cops but high stress situations. But because CNN reports that a cop shot an innocent black man and post a picture of the kid in middle school. But don't explain how the cop told him to stop reaching for his gun and a guy almost twice his size did it in anyways. I guess the expectation is to just let yourself get killed

Cops are humans and 99999999.999 percent just want to get home to their families. And just like literally every thing in the world, literally everything. There are bad people and good people.
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The Admiral posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

The Admiral posted...

The majority of CE hates cops and has likely never personally interacted with them. It's the typical adolescent rebellion against authority mindset.

And you hate Muslims without personally interacting with them. Its the typical conservative against minority mindset.

Literally every part of your post is wrong, which is an impressive level of embarrassment. And that's saying a lot for someone who frequently melts down here like you do.

Are you talking about yourself?
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Maybe if the "good cops" and the system didn't protect all the bad cops from seeing justice, people wouldn't be as critical.

The policing system in the U.S is inherently flawed.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

Are you talking about yourself?

Can't meltdown if you take his approach where you hightail it out of a topic any time a person doesn't go for personal attacks and takes him seriously enough to spend 2 minutes deconstructing poorly thought out arguments. Every single time.

blackmanpointingtotemple.png
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Paper_Okami posted...

Maybe if the "good cops" and the system didn't protect all the bad cops from seeing justice, people wouldn't be as critical.

Please show me how much that actually happens?

"Good" cops don't like "Bad" cops just like the military

And this day and age everyone is filming officers or like my department and have bodycams

There is no secret organization and that shit gets sniffed out quickly
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MacadamianNut3 posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Are you talking about yourself?

Can't meltdown if you take his approach where you hightail it out of a topic any time a person doesn't go for personal attacks and takes him seriously enough to spend 2 minutes deconstructing poorly thought out arguments. Every single time.

blackmanpointingtotemple.png

I'm still waiting for you to do this. You guys seem to think crying racism and slinging insults for a few dozen posts while never addressing the main arguments merits a response.

Pro-tip: it doesn't
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darkprince45 posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

You can be critical of anyone without having direct interactions with them. Some cops do bad things and we can see that the system is set up horribly to deter those bad things from happening. Ill never understand why demanding better of an organization that is far from perfect is such a bad thing.

And some of us do good things and the people who do bad things are far and few between. There's internal affairs catching shit like that quickly a lot of cops don't like cop scumbags. Most of the incidents on the tv aren't bad cops but high stress situations. But because CNN reports that a cop shot an innocent black man and post a picture of the kid in middle school. But don't explain how the cop told him to stop reaching for his gun and a guy almost twice his size did it in anyways. I guess the expectation is to just let yourself get killed

Cops are humans and 99999999.999 percent just want to get home to their families. And just like literally every thing in the world, literally everything. There are bad people and good people.

Bullshit. Your job is literally to lie to people. You have to be a special type of person to lie constantly just to get people to slip up and incriminate themselves.

Also you "good cops" don't ever speak up against bad cops.
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The Admiral posted...

MacadamianNut3 posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Are you talking about yourself?

Can't meltdown if you take his approach where you hightail it out of a topic any time a person doesn't go for personal attacks and takes him seriously enough to spend 2 minutes deconstructing poorly thought out arguments. Every single time.

blackmanpointingtotemple.png

I'm still waiting for you to do this. You guys seem to think crying racism and slinging insults for a few dozen posts while never addressing the main arguments merits a response.

Pro-tip: it doesn't

And you seem to think that posting Campus Reform links is quality reporting so your opinion doesnt really matter.
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ChainedRedone posted...

Bulls***. Your job is literally to lie to people. You have to be a special type of person to lie constantly just to get people to slip up and incriminate themselves.

What lol? Unless you're a traffic cop getting tickets, You're 99 percent doing calls for service. Which is someone calling for a crime? Nobody is trying to get anyone to slip up lol or to lie. If there's no probable cause no one can legally fuck with you. There's no stopping someone unless you have reasonable suspicion. If there's no reasonable suspicion you could tell me to fuck off and walk away.

You have to be mirandised to be asked any incriminating questions or anything pertaining to an investigation. Which you could revoke at any time and refuse to say anything until you have your lawyer
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The Admiral posted...

I'm still waiting for you to do this. You guys seem to think crying racism and slinging insults for a few dozen posts while never addressing the main arguments merits a response.

The main argument of this topic has already been addressed in post #7

If you want to go through past topics, those also happen and when they do you stop posting and people spend the next 30 or so posts laughing at how much of a jackass you are before moving on, eventually coming back to it again, and yadda yadda.

You being blind to the easily verifiable reality (literally two archive sites for this board, the curious person can do their own homework) doesn't mean it doesn't happen
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darkprince45 posted...

You have to be mirandised to be asked any incriminating questions or anything pertaining to an investigation. Which you could revoke at any time and refuse to say anything until you have your lawyer

I don't know if you're from a state where that is true but in most places that's not true at all. Miranda warnings usually only occur once you've been arrested. I doubt there any state that would restrict their police so much that they can't carry out field interviews without a Miranda warning.
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darkprince45 posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

You can be critical of anyone without having direct interactions with them. Some cops do bad things and we can see that the system is set up horribly to deter those bad things from happening. Ill never understand why demanding better of an organization that is far from perfect is such a bad thing.

And some of us do good things and the people who do bad things are far and few between. There's internal affairs catching shit like that quickly a lot of cops don't like cop scumbags. Most of the incidents on the tv aren't bad cops but high stress situations. But because CNN reports that a cop shot an innocent black man and post a picture of the kid in middle school. But don't explain how the cop told him to stop reaching for his gun and a guy almost twice his size did it in anyways. I guess the expectation is to just let yourself get killed

Cops are humans and 99999999.999 percent just want to get home to their families. And just like literally every thing in the world, literally everything. There are bad people and good people.

cops aren't bad because of the actions of a few. they're bad because they're cops. the issue is not the individual cops, but the job itself.

as part of their contract, cops agree to enforce all laws, including those that are unjust and cruel.

there are good people, and there are cops who are otherwise good people, but there are no good cops.
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MacadamianNut3 posted...

If you want to go through past topics, those also happen and when they do you stop posting

Correct, when people start deflecting onto to completely unrelated topics, as typically happens, I consider that the white flag and ignore them. If you can't intelligently discuss the topic at hand, you're done.

Post 7 has nothing to do with my post. Disliking police in general -- which is the predominant mindset that CE has -- is not the same as being critical because there are known systematic flaws with the many departments. If you genuinely hate the police despite having never interacted with them, it's almost certainly an anti-authority mindset, which is juvenile.
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ChainedRedone posted...

darkprince45 posted...

You have to be mirandised to be asked any incriminating questions or anything pertaining to an investigation. Which you could revoke at any time and refuse to say anything until you have your lawyer

I don't know if you're from a state where that is true but in most places that's not true at all. Miranda warnings usually only occur once you've been arrested. I doubt there any state that would restrict their police so much that they can't carry out field interviews without a Miranda warning.

I really meant arrested in that case. In cases of reasonable you don't have to say anything you could refuse a pat down too
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I've never personally had a bad experience from a lot of groups I don't like. The KKK has never personally wronged me, but that doesn't mean I don't despise them.

Not saying the police are the KKK, just that if I can hate a group without personally being wronged by them that has to go across the board.
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darkprince45 posted...

Paper_Okami posted...

Maybe if the "good cops" and the system didn't protect all the bad cops from seeing justice, people wouldn't be as critical.

Please show me how much that actually happens?

"Good" cops don't like "Bad" cops just like the military

And this day and age everyone is filming officers or like my department and have bodycams

There is no secret organization and that shit gets sniffed out quickly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence
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The Admiral posted...

Post 7 has nothing to do with my post

Yeah only one post (second sentence of #6) has anything to do with yours, for good reason. A response as snarky as yours yet you for some unknown reason think that while you can act in such a manner, people absolutely have to engage in an "intelligent discussion" with you. Aka the tactic of a literal child if you want to talk about juvenile behavior. Post #7 actually addresses the question of this topic

The only person on this board who had an unjustifiable or over the top hateboner for the police is Draje. Disliking the police is not the same as "genuinely hating" them. I interact with police every single time I go to work and they're just peachy. I also would put "calling the police" towards the end of my list for any given situation before one shows, starts fearing for their life over a misunderstanding, and then starts emptying clips

Well because of that, and also the **absolutely great actual interactions my family members in Mississippi have had over the last two decades. Imagine my relief one time (the only time for me in Mississippi) when the officer who showed up happened to be a relative and people didn't freak out
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Paper_Okami posted...

darkprince45 posted...

Paper_Okami posted...

Maybe if the "good cops" and the system didn't protect all the bad cops from seeing justice, people wouldn't be as critical.

Please show me how much that actually happens?

"Good" cops don't like "Bad" cops just like the military

And this day and age everyone is filming officers or like my department and have bodycams

There is no secret organization and that shit gets sniffed out quickly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence

I've never heard of that term in my department. Maybe in the old days it was like that. It's not like that anymore. Especially with bodycams
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You can dislike anything if the right people tell you to

KhlavicLanguage posted...

The Admiral posted...

The majority of CE hates cops and has likely never personally interacted with them. It's the typical adolescent rebellion against authority mindset.

As opposed to the typical neckbeard fetishization of authority mindset.

Probably common among people who'd become forum moderators.

this was a good post
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ChainedRedone posted...

Bulls***. Your job is literally to lie to people.

Ow the edge! !
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KhlavicLanguage posted...

The Admiral posted...

The majority of CE hates cops and has likely never personally interacted with them. It's the typical adolescent rebellion against authority mindset.

As opposed to the typical neckbeard fetishization of authority mindset.

Probably common among people who'd become forum moderators.

Damn!

Rida_Go_To_Bed posted...

No, you are a racist if you do

lol
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I myself, and plenty of others I know have had tons of run ins with cops. My brother got arrested for something petty, and the cop said he wished he had a gun on him so he had a reason to kill him

And a friend of my brothers is a cop and said his favorite part of the job is taking peoples rights away lol
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