Current Events > What was wrong with "Trayvon could've been my son"?

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People act like he was trying to create division when all he did was give a matter of fact statement that, if he'd had a son, his son might have been like Trayvon. It's no different from any other parent saying "that could've been my child" in lieu of tragedy befalling someone young.

Skye Reynolds posted...

give a matter of fact statement that, if he'd had a son, his son might have been like Trayvon

but he wouldn't have been. ever.
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You're not supposed to humanize black people or else certain segments of our country will get upset.
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50Blessings posted...

Skye Reynolds posted...

give a matter of fact statement that, if he'd had a son, his son might have been like Trayvon

but he wouldn't have been. ever.

nah, definitely coulda been.
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it was the perfect non-issue the right could use to deflect from a real issue.
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metralo posted...

50Blessings posted...

Skye Reynolds posted...

give a matter of fact statement that, if he'd had a son, his son might have been like Trayvon

but he wouldn't have been. ever.

nah, definitely coulda been.

I'd like to think Obama is a better father than that but you may be right
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A_Good_Boy posted...

You're not supposed to humanize black people or else certain segments of our country will get upset.

@A_Good_Boy

What race are you and where are you from (or at least give me the region or racial demographics).

I'm just curious what parts of the country you think humanizing black people is upsetting to people. Also you're stereotyping people based on what region they live in, way to be prejudiced.
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doesn't have anything to do with how the kid is brought up.
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50Blessings posted...

Skye Reynolds posted...

give a matter of fact statement that, if he'd had a son, his son might have been like Trayvon

but he wouldn't have been. ever.

How so? That could have been anyone's son. Imagine your kid is walking home at night and some dude starts being aggressive. What happens? Kid getting killed is one of those scenarios and it could have been Obama's son.

Case closed.
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ThePrinceFish posted...

metralo posted...

50Blessings posted...

Skye Reynolds posted...

give a matter of fact statement that, if he'd had a son, his son might have been like Trayvon

but he wouldn't have been. ever.

nah, definitely coulda been.

I'd like to think Obama is a better father than that but you may be right

you don't think any good parents have ever raised a fuckup?
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ThePrinceFish posted...

metralo posted...

50Blessings posted...

Skye Reynolds posted...

give a matter of fact statement that, if he'd had a son, his son might have been like Trayvon

but he wouldn't have been. ever.

nah, definitely coulda been.

I'd like to think Obama is a better father than that but you may be right

Yeah. I wasnt a fan of his presidency and he can actually be a total douche when he feels like it, but dude has charisma, a sense of humor and all indicators are he is a good father too.

Hard to actually hate the guy.
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doesn't have to be a fuck up either!
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anyone could've been anyone's son if they had sex with the other parent
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I highly doubt Obama's son would be the type taking pics of himself holding guns and getting into physical confrontations and getting defensive over people walking the same direction as him, calling cracker and having a girlfriend that looks, let associate with girls that act like this



Obama's sons would be typical privileged upper class kids.

heck Obama wouldn't even let his kids around a more ghetto part of town or even go to public school.

so no he couldn't have been anything like his son
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innocent black people get shot by cops in "upper class" neighborhoods too.
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metralo posted...

innocent black people get shot by cops in "upper class" neighborhoods too.

Which has nothing to do with Trayvon Martin assaulting Zimmerman
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Obama would have been a better father
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Either Obama is admitting that he is a terrible father, or he only said it because Trayvon is black.

Neither interpretation is a good look on Obummer.
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Eat More Beef posted...

How so? That could have been anyone's son. Imagine your kid is walking home at night and some dude starts being aggressive. What happens? Kid getting killed is one of those scenarios and it could have been Obama's son.

Case closed.

Because Obama was a well to do man who wouldn't raise a child like that.

Nor would he have ever had a child in that sort of environment.

And on top of that, if Trayvon was his kid he would have had secret service protection.

There is no way Trayvon would have ever been his son.
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If your son is like Trayvon, you're a shit father. I doubt that was the point Obama was trying to make, so he was criticized.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

You're not supposed to humanize black people or else certain segments of our country will get upset.

yup. the hit dogs ALWAYS holler. you can tell when a statement hits too close to home.
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Nothing is wrong with it, really. But since we know Trayvon's character, what's wrong with saying someone else with Trayvon's character (thug, stealing) could have been Obama's son, too?
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reminder that oprah was once discriminated against in a swedish store for not looking rich enough

obama got called a monkey even after presidency

you people are under the impression that privileged black people are somehow immune to racism or something
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I never got why trayvon posing with guns was bad but "Hunter" can have all the guns he wants and no one bats an eye.
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was he saying he tried to sleep with the mom
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like you guys are really missing the point of what he said

he's not saying his son would have a personality like trayvon or anything like that

he's saying his son could have been just a guy in a hoodie that someone felt the need to feel threatened by, thus resulting in this whole mess
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

obama got called a monkey even after presidency

Trump gets called an orangutan and people call Trump supporters Trumpanzees. The world's smallest violin is playing.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

reminder that oprah was once discriminated against in a swedish store for not looking rich enough

obama got called a monkey even after presidency

you people are under the impression that privileged black people are somehow immune to racism or something

Remember when Kobe Bryant said that he didn't give a fuck about Trayvon Martin and that people only thought he should because he is rich and black?

It's almost like one black person might have nothing to do with another.
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Capn Circus posted...

Nothing is wrong with it, really. But since we know Trayvon's character, what's wrong with saying someone else with Trayvon's character (thug, stealing) could have been Obama's son, too?

Can we not act like trayvon character and record was that bad, he was the typical rebellious kid and some people act like he had a mile long rap sheet.
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ThePrinceFish posted...

Remember when Kobe Bryant said that he didn't give a f*** about Trayvon Martin and that people only thought he should because he is rich and black?

to be fair kobe didn't have a regular upbringing

and he's just being real
he's also not the president of the united fucking states
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Capn Circus posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

obama got called a monkey even after presidency

Trump gets called an orangutan and people call Trump supporters Trumpanzees. The world's smallest violin is playing.

You've whined about that being considered racist too. You're gonna have to make up your mind bro.
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pikachupwnage posted...

Hard to actually hate the guy.

Barack Obama is essentially Jimmy Carter, jr., but I'd gladly have a beer with Obama or build a house with Carter.

Capn Circus posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

obama got called a monkey even after presidency

Trump gets called an orangutan and people call Trump supporters Trumpanzees. The world's smallest violin is playing.

wow it's almost like context and agency matters
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oh i got it, he slept with the mom but she didn't get pregnant
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As someone else said, what happened to Trayvon could have never happened to him if he was Obamas son because he would have had major secret service protection. It's another example of Obama trying to act like he is like everyone else when he most definitely wasn't.

But the real reason people were pissed was because it fucked up jury selection.

I love how people try and Remove context from racial matters like race in itself doesn't heavily rely on context
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obama really overestimated america when he thought they'd understand what he said
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

You're not supposed to humanize black people or else certain segments of our country will get upset.

yup. the hit dogs ALWAYS holler. you can tell when a statement hits too close to home.

are you referring to me asking him what part of the country he is from and what race he is to make that assumption?

Because I live in the South, live from Huntsville, AL to Memphis, TN, and not everyone is like that. You get people in rural areas sure, but educated, good people don't dehumanize black people based on the color of their skin. That is very offensive to some very good educators and such that I know very well as well as me.

I've been in ghettos that you couldn't even imagine being in for work, grew up with black people and a lot of the black people working in those schools are great people, as well as the white people.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

reminder that oprah was once discriminated against in a swedish store for not looking rich enough

obama got called a monkey even after presidency

you people are under the impression that privileged black people are somehow immune to racism or something

imagine the outrage some episodes of fresh prince of bel air would have it it aired today
carlton and will getting pulled over for being black would have met with so much backlash on CE

this scene would have caused outrage among people who dont want to admit black people face discrimination

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW9pklBXqk4
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what Obama meant was that there's often a suspicion cast on young black males, and that suspicion led to a bunch of terrible decision-making that escalated to Zimmerman being beaten and Trayvon killed

like, from Obama's experience, worldview, whatever, black people aren't given as much of a benefit of a doubt in relation of others, and that could possibly lead to negative outcomes
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gamepimp12 posted...

I love how people try and Remove context from racial matters like race in itself doesn't heavily rely on context

they're mostly just trying to defend themselves for sharing the same beliefs
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they really crafted that scene pretty well for tv

the subtleties
how the deputy talks to the banks

compared to how he immediately asks if he can help uncle phil's partner, and calls him "sir"

lmao but we gon deny this happens irl
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boxington posted...

what Obama meant was that there's often a suspicion cast on young black males, and that suspicion led to a bunch of terrible decision-making that escalated to Zimmerman being beaten and Trayvon killed

like, from Obama's experience, worldview, whatever, black people aren't given as much of a benefit of a doubt in relation of others, and that could possibly lead to negative outcomes

Yet, "colorblindness" is somehow a bad philosophy...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Yet, "colorblindness" is somehow a bad philosophy...

because it's avoiding the issue not confronting and resolving it

colorblindness seeks to absolve certain people their history of wrongdoing and effect on other races

instead of having to face the cold reality that yes they did things yes its still affects them and us

its not something to be avoided, it should be celebrated
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yemmy posted...

educated, good people don't dehumanize black people based on the color of their skin

Go get more of them to post on CE then, cause man whenever something bad happens to a black person this place becomes a free-for-all.
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boxington posted...

what Obama meant was that there's often a suspicion cast on young black males, and that suspicion led to a bunch of terrible decision-making that escalated to Zimmerman being beaten and Trayvon killed

like, from Obama's experience, worldview, whatever, black people aren't given as much of a benefit of a doubt in relation of others, and that could possibly lead to negative outcomes

If a neighborhood has had recent burglaries and you see someone walking through people's lawns at night, wearing a hoodie---someone you don't recognize and you're prominent in the neighborhood---would that raise suspicion to you? Race doesn't really matter with those circumstances alone.
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Capn Circus posted...

If a neighborhood has had recent burglaries and you see someone walking through people's lawns at night, wearing a hoodie---would that raise suspicion to you? Race doesn't really matter with those circumstances alone.

No, because I see people in hoodies all the time.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

its not something to be avoided, it should be celebrated

whut?