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Zanzenburger 02/02/18 5:15:49 PM #1:	I don't know why it took me so long to get into this show. I just got done with season 4 and it's amazing how fast-paced the show is, how little filler there is, and how much crap they try to get away with to shock you. It's like, nothing is too taboo for that show. You also really get a feel for the characters. Also, once you've thought they've tackled every possible plotline or character development with a particular character, they take it one step further. Specifically with Frank and Fiona. Here's my question, though. Without any spoilers, does this show drop in quality like Dexter did in its first 4 seasons? I've heard that's a recurring issue with long-running Showtime shows. Dexter's the only other Showtime show I've seen. --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. <cite>Zanzenburger posted [p:895331895] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote>I don't know why it took me so long to get into this show. I just got done with season 4 and it's amazing how fast-paced the show is, how little filler there is, and how much crap they try to get away with to shock you. It's like, nothing is too taboo for that show. You also really get a feel for the characters. Also, once you've thought they've tackled every possible plotline or character development with a particular character, they take it one step further. Specifically with Frank and Fiona. Here's my question, though. Without any spoilers, does this show drop in quality like Dexter did in its first 4 seasons? I've heard that's a recurring issue with long-running Showtime shows. Dexter's the only other Showtime show I've seen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlazinBlue88 02/02/18 5:26:59 PM #4:	mariolover2 posted... Honestly, my main problem is that the characters don't experience any growth. They make the same mistakes over and over again. The actors were great, there are definitely solid moments, but the plot isn't amazing. Yeah it's not awful like what Dexter turned into but it's definitely lost it's original spark in the later seasons. It's still fun to watch but it just all sorta blends together after a while. It's harder for them to shock you cause they already set that bar so high. --- http://i.imgur.com/R15aJJ3.png http://i.imgur.com/NJqp6LS.png <cite>BlazinBlue88 posted [p:895332625] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote><cite>mariolover2 posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly, my main problem is that the characters don't experience any growth. They make the same mistakes over and over again. The actors were great, there are definitely solid moments, but the plot isn't amazing. </quote> Yeah it's not awful like what Dexter turned into but it's definitely lost it's original spark in the later seasons. It's still fun to watch but it just all sorta blends together after a while. It's harder for them to shock you cause they already set that bar so high.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zanzenburger 02/02/18 5:27:16 PM #5:	mariolover2 posted... Honestly, my main problem is that the characters don't experience any growth. They make the same mistakes over and over again. The actors were great, there are definitely solid moments, but the plot isn't amazing. Also the fill-ins at the beginning are so cheesy. "Hi my life is shit, I'm throwing up in a toilet. Here's what you missed!" To be fair, I love the fill-ins. It's unique and lasts less than 5 seconds. Reminds me of the Simpsons couch gags with the different scenarios they come up with. My wife grew up in a neighborhood with people just like the Gallaghers (some in her own family) and she said it's pretty realistic that they'll keep falling into their own mistakes over and over again. She says it's the cycle of poverty and why those families never improve. You'd think they'd learn after all the crap happens to them but they fall right back into familiar patterns. --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. <cite>Zanzenburger posted [p:895332651] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote><cite>mariolover2 posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly, my main problem is that the characters don't experience any growth. They make the same mistakes over and over again. The actors were great, there are definitely solid moments, but the plot isn't amazing. Also the fill-ins at the beginning are so cheesy. "Hi my life is shit, I'm throwing up in a toilet. Here's what you missed!"</quote> To be fair, I love the fill-ins. It's unique and lasts less than 5 seconds. Reminds me of the Simpsons couch gags with the different scenarios they come up with. My wife grew up in a neighborhood with people just like the Gallaghers (some in her own family) and she said it's pretty realistic that they'll keep falling into their own mistakes over and over again. She says it's the cycle of poverty and why those families never improve. You'd think they'd learn after all the crap happens to them but they fall right back into familiar patterns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 02/02/18 5:28:44 PM #6:	mariolover2 posted... Honestly, my main problem is that the characters don't experience any growth. They make the same mistakes over and over again. Like real life doe --- There will always be exceptions. <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:895332732] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote><cite>mariolover2 posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly, my main problem is that the characters don't experience any growth. They make the same mistakes over and over again. </quote> Like real life doe</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlazinBlue88 02/02/18 5:29:17 PM #7:	Zanzenburger posted... My wife grew up in a neighborhood with people just like the Gallaghers (some in her own family) and she said it's pretty realistic that they'll keep falling into their own mistakes over and over again. She says it's the cycle of poverty and why those families never improve. You'd think they'd learn after all the crap happens to them but they fall right back into familiar patterns. It's funny you say that cause I was about to edit my post. I get additional laughter from it because my wife also grew up in similar conditions and the comparisons she pulls from the show to her childhood adds to my enjoyment/shock/whatever. --- http://i.imgur.com/R15aJJ3.png http://i.imgur.com/NJqp6LS.png <cite>BlazinBlue88 posted [p:895332764] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zanzenburger posted...</cite> <quote>My wife grew up in a neighborhood with people just like the Gallaghers (some in her own family) and she said it's pretty realistic that they'll keep falling into their own mistakes over and over again. She says it's the cycle of poverty and why those families never improve. You'd think they'd learn after all the crap happens to them but they fall right back into familiar patterns. </quote> It's funny you say that cause I was about to edit my post. I get additional laughter from it because my wife also grew up in similar conditions and the comparisons she pulls from the show to her childhood adds to my enjoyment/shock/whatever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zanzenburger 02/02/18 5:29:39 PM #8:	BlazinBlue88 posted... Yeah it's not awful like what Dexter turned into but it's definitely lost it's original spark in the later seasons. It's still fun to watch but it just all sorta blends together after a while. It's harder for them to shock you cause they already set that bar so high. This was my main problem with Dexter. I felt like they used some of their best material the first few seasons and made it harder to keep interest without jumping the shark. Like, I was surprised that they went with a ~~rival killer~~ plotline right from the first episode, and then making it a ~~"the killer is my brother"~~ plotline in the same season. Those could have both been entire seasons later on in the show. I felt that by Season 4 they've used up all their good material. I mean, if it weren't for the last 5 minutes of the Season 4 finale, that could have been a great series finale if not for the ~~soft reset~~. --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. <cite>Zanzenburger posted [p:895332789] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlazinBlue88 posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah it's not awful like what Dexter turned into but it's definitely lost it's original spark in the later seasons. It's still fun to watch but it just all sorta blends together after a while. It's harder for them to shock you cause they already set that bar so high.</quote> This was my main problem with Dexter. I felt like they used some of their best material the first few seasons and made it harder to keep interest without jumping the shark. Like, I was surprised that they went with a rival killer plotline right from the first episode, and then making it a "the killer is my brother" plotline in the same season. Those could have both been entire seasons later on in the show. I felt that by Season 4 they've used up all their good material. I mean, if it weren't for the last 5 minutes of the Season 4 finale, that could have been a great series finale if not for the soft reset.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zanzenburger 02/02/18 5:32:34 PM #9:	BlazinBlue88 posted... It's funny you say that cause I was about to edit my post. I get additional laughter from it because my wife also grew up in similar conditions and the comparisons she pulls from the show to her childhood adds to my enjoyment/shock/whatever. Yeah, my wife claims Fiona is a carbon copy of her older sister. Her sister can and has done some of the stuff Fiona has done in the show. It's pretty funny seeing her react and facepalm at some of the stories. It's even funnier cause we both grew up in poverty. But she grew up in "white poverty" like in Shameless while I grew up in ghetto poverty closer to what you see in Everybody Hates Chris. I never realized how different they were until watching this show. --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. <cite>Zanzenburger posted [p:895332948] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlazinBlue88 posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny you say that cause I was about to edit my post. I get additional laughter from it because my wife also grew up in similar conditions and the comparisons she pulls from the show to her childhood adds to my enjoyment/shock/whatever.</quote> Yeah, my wife claims Fiona is a carbon copy of her older sister. Her sister can and has done some of the stuff Fiona has done in the show. It's pretty funny seeing her react and facepalm at some of the stories. It's even funnier cause we both grew up in poverty. But she grew up in "white poverty" like in Shameless while I grew up in ghetto poverty closer to what you see in Everybody Hates Chris. I never realized how different they were until watching this show.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlazinBlue88 02/02/18 5:43:09 PM #11:	Zanzenburger posted... This was my main problem with Dexter. I felt like they used some of their best material the first few seasons and made it harder to keep interest without jumping the shark. Difference is, Dexter turned into a bad show. Shameless is still good...just not as good as it once was. Zanzenburger posted... Yeah, my wife claims Fiona is a carbon copy of her older sister. Her sister can and has done some of the stuff Fiona has done in the show. It's pretty funny seeing her react and facepalm at some of the stories. It's even funnier cause we both grew up in poverty. But she grew up in "white poverty" like in Shameless while I grew up in ghetto poverty closer to what you see in Everybody Hates Chris. I never realized how different they were until watching this show. I didn't grow up in poverty or the city so I'm not able to relate to a lot of what happens. I grew up with a lower middle class family that lived in a double wide in the country. I watch Shameless and laugh at how outrageous it all is but half of it my wife goes, "No that's a thing that happens. When I was growing up...." Then I go "Wtf that's a thing people do?!?!" --- http://i.imgur.com/R15aJJ3.png http://i.imgur.com/NJqp6LS.png <cite>BlazinBlue88 posted [p:895333488] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zanzenburger posted...</cite> <quote>This was my main problem with Dexter. I felt like they used some of their best material the first few seasons and made it harder to keep interest without jumping the shark.</quote> Difference is, Dexter turned into a bad show. Shameless is still good...just not as good as it once was. <cite>Zanzenburger posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, my wife claims Fiona is a carbon copy of her older sister. Her sister can and has done some of the stuff Fiona has done in the show. It's pretty funny seeing her react and facepalm at some of the stories. It's even funnier cause we both grew up in poverty. But she grew up in "white poverty" like in Shameless while I grew up in ghetto poverty closer to what you see in Everybody Hates Chris. I never realized how different they were until watching this show.</quote> I didn't grow up in poverty or the city so I'm not able to relate to a lot of what happens. I grew up with a lower middle class family that lived in a double wide in the country. I watch Shameless and laugh at how outrageous it all is but half of it my wife goes, "No that's a thing that happens. When I was growing up...." Then I go "Wtf that's a thing people do?!?!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zanzenburger 02/03/18 12:15:40 AM #14:	mariolover2 posted... Also, Cameron Monaghan (Ian) does a killer job on playing the Joker in Gotham. Holy shit. Agreed --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. <cite>Zanzenburger posted [p:895354418] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote><cite>mariolover2 posted...</cite> <quote>Also, Cameron Monaghan (Ian) does a killer job on playing the Joker in Gotham. Holy shit.</quote> Agreed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caelthus 02/03/18 12:16:38 AM #15:	My mom is absolutely obsessed with this show at the moment. --- http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/3853476/ Neo Yokio is a masterpiece. - Popcorn_Fairy <cite>Caelthus posted [p:895354462] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote>My mom is absolutely obsessed with this show at the moment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666 02/03/18 12:17:18 AM #16:	Couldnt get into it --- Xbox GT: l0rdg0ld666 \| 3DS FC: 1848-2391-0198 [LXGC] - Lethal Xbox Gaming crew <cite>Lordgold666 posted [p:895354487] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote>Couldnt get into it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Millennials 02/03/18 12:17:59 AM #17:	Gets super repetitive after a while but this latest season has been kind of refreshing imo. --- http://i.imgur.com/u0U1NGj.jpg <cite>Millennials posted [p:895354519] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote>Gets super repetitive after a while but this latest season has been kind of refreshing imo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperExcitebike 02/03/18 12:23:45 AM #18:	Shameless has had the oddest spike in popularity. I've been watching since season 1 and it's been on Netflix for a while, but it didn't really get popular until like a year or two ago. Now it's become this water cooler conversation show. This season was the only one that I didn't care much for, but I think Shameless will stick around for a while. The Showtime curse has finally caught it after 8 seasons and that's better than any other program from that network by far --- SMU Mustangs/Jayhawks/Texans/Rockets/Astros http://followmy.tv/u/Excitebike <cite>SuperExcitebike posted [p:895354760] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote>Shameless has had the oddest spike in popularity. I've been watching since season 1 and it's been on Netflix for a while, but it didn't really get popular until like a year or two ago. Now it's become this water cooler conversation show. This season was the only one that I didn't care much for, but I think Shameless will stick around for a while. The Showtime curse has finally caught it after 8 seasons and that's better than any other program from that network by far</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masticatingman 02/03/18 12:33:38 AM #20:	Seasons 7 and 8 started showing they were running out of ideas imo. I didnt like them. I do think after a certain point you have to have come from a...tougher/rougher background to still be totally into the show and the characters. Just gets harder to empathize with them. Frank especially has a couple plot points that just get out of hand. And yes, I know thats the point of his character - doesnt make it fun to watch. --- I am basically am I. Well, basically. <cite>masticatingman posted [p:895355171] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote>Seasons 7 and 8 started showing they were running out of ideas imo. I didnt like them. I do think after a certain point you have to have come from a...tougher/rougher background to still be totally into the show and the characters. Just gets harder to empathize with them. Frank especially has a couple plot points that just get out of hand. And yes, I know thats the point of his character - doesnt make it fun to watch.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Quorthon109 02/03/18 12:35:32 AM #21:	It's been kinda bumpy for me since Season 5 but I still enjoy it. --- http://i.imgur.com/Kjo08.jpg <cite>Quorthon109 posted [p:895355263] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote>It's been kinda bumpy for me since Season 5 but I still enjoy it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zanzenburger 02/03/18 1:33:50 AM #22:	Interesting --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. <cite>Zanzenburger posted [p:895357540] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote>Interesting</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jim_Stark 02/03/18 2:07:04 AM #23:	The first four seasons are great. Season four in particular is amazing, that one will go everywhere you never thought it would go. But it's never quite the same after that. It doesn't get Dexter bad, but I got really tired of it towards the end of season six. --- http://i.imgur.com/9oev7Hj.gifv <cite>Jim_Stark posted [p:895358526] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote>The first four seasons are great. Season four in particular is amazing, that one will go everywhere you never thought it would go. But it's never quite the same after that. It doesn't get Dexter bad, but I got really tired of it towards the end of season six.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 02/03/18 2:16:27 AM #24:	I've basically come to accept that the only acceptable way for the show to end is for Frank to die and have everyone go their own way when they realize he was the only thing actually holding them together. Also one of my issues with the Show is that it's been running for 8(?) years now but I don't think the same amount of time has passed in the show. --- http://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:895358763] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote>I've basically come to accept that the only acceptable way for the show to end is for Frank to die and have everyone go their own way when they realize he was the only thing actually holding them together. Also one of my issues with the Show is that it's been running for 8(?) years now but I don't think the same amount of time has passed in the show.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zanzenburger 02/03/18 2:31:19 PM #25:	Bio1590 posted... Also one of my issues with the Show is that it's been running for 8(?) years now but I don't think the same amount of time has passed in the show. Yeah, i believe seasons 3 and 4 took place in the same year. --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. <cite>Zanzenburger posted [p:895381587] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>Also one of my issues with the Show is that it's been running for 8(?) years now but I don't think the same amount of time has passed in the show.</quote> Yeah, i believe seasons 3 and 4 took place in the same year.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 02/03/18 3:01:32 PM #26:	I'm pretty sure Seasons 1 and 2 are only a few months apart as well. Season 1 ends in the winter and Season 2 starts in the summer. Season 2 takes place over like 4-5 months because it ends just after Thanksgiving. And yeah Season 3 and 4 are in the same year. The whole timeline just doesn't make sense at all. --- http://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:895383129] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure Seasons 1 and 2 are only a few months apart as well. Season 1 ends in the winter and Season 2 starts in the summer. Season 2 takes place over like 4-5 months because it ends just after Thanksgiving. And yeah Season 3 and 4 are in the same year. The whole timeline just doesn't make sense at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGrindery 02/03/18 3:02:43 PM #27:	leverageblargh posted... I completely lost interest around the beginning of S3 and never went back. S2 was a slog to get through too. Dexter was vastly better. Only seasons 1-4 are better than Shameless. <cite>TheGrindery posted [p:895383187] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote><cite>leverageblargh posted...</cite> <quote>I completely lost interest around the beginning of S3 and never went back. S2 was a slog to get through too. Dexter was vastly better.</quote> Only seasons 1-4 are better than Shameless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Steve Nick 02/03/18 3:16:32 PM #28:	just saw the cover for the TV series is there a lot of fan service for that hot chick on the cover? --- This is my signature. <cite>Steve Nick posted [p:895383946] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote>just saw the cover for the TV series is there a lot of fan service for that hot chick on the cover?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zanzenburger 02/03/18 4:18:25 PM #30:	Steve Nick posted... just saw the cover for the TV series is there a lot of fan service for that hot chick on the cover? Yes, she has several nude scenes throughout the show. Lots of attractive women baring it all on the show. Come for the boobs, stay for the drama. --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. <cite>Zanzenburger posted [p:895387423] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote><cite>Steve Nick posted...</cite> <quote>just saw the cover for the TV series is there a lot of fan service for that hot chick on the cover?</quote> Yes, she has several nude scenes throughout the show. Lots of attractive women baring it all on the show. Come for the boobs, stay for the drama.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
madcaptech 02/03/18 4:22:03 PM #31:	Enjoy it while you can. This latest season (8) was what I'd consider the worst of the series. Not to say it's bad, it's just nothing really happened. --- Time may change me But I can't trace time <cite>madcaptech posted [p:895387633] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote>Enjoy it while you can. This latest season (8) was what I'd consider the worst of the series. Not to say it's bad, it's just nothing really happened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mustang90 02/03/18 4:30:28 PM #32:	I enjoyed the first few seasons but like others have said it gets boring watching them do the same dumb shit because they never grow as characters. <cite>mustang90 posted [p:895388042] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote>I enjoyed the first few seasons but like others have said it gets boring watching them do the same dumb shit because they never grow as characters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zanzenburger 02/03/18 5:12:32 PM #33:	Yeah, that has been my fear. How do you run a show for 8 seasons without either recycling plots with no character growth or fundamentally changing the structure of the show. --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. <cite>Zanzenburger posted [p:895390347] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, that has been my fear. How do you run a show for 8 seasons without either recycling plots with no character growth or fundamentally changing the structure of the show.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Near_ 02/03/18 5:14:35 PM #34:	it just gets worse and worse --- https://i.imgur.com/WyFIJkF.gif This is America, where a lying, cheating degenerate can prosper. <cite>_Near_ posted [p:895390477] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote>it just gets worse and worse</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 02/03/18 5:16:12 PM #35:	Zanzenburger posted... Yeah, that has been my fear. How do you run a show for 8 seasons without either recycling plots with no character growth or fundamentally changing the structure of the show. Let me tell you about Grey's Anatomy... --- Never write off the Doctor! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:895390550] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zanzenburger posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, that has been my fear. How do you run a show for 8 seasons without either recycling plots with no character growth or fundamentally changing the structure of the show.</quote> Let me tell you about Grey's Anatomy...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zanzenburger 02/04/18 11:10:20 AM #36:	Lol --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. <cite>Zanzenburger posted [p:895431938] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote>Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGrindery 02/04/18 1:00:30 PM #37:	Veronica is hotter than Fiona. <cite>TheGrindery posted [p:895437506] in Shameless ... [t:76274898]...</cite> <quote>Veronica is hotter than Fiona.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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