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Muffinz0rz
02/02/18 4:45:25 PM
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I ain't reading 7 pages
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davyheinz
02/02/18 4:45:57 PM
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Good news! It isnt 7 pages. Lets start with that.
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Funkydog
02/02/18 4:46:07 PM
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First we need to know what side politically you are on.
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LavarNeedsHelp
02/02/18 4:46:23 PM
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Fbi is basically Hillary's bitch, tried to take down Trump
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Muffinz0rz
02/02/18 4:48:28 PM
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davyheinz posted...
Good news! It isnt 7 pages. Lets start with that.

I meant this topic

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/76273796

Funkydog posted...
First we need to know what side politically you are on.

No you don't

LavarNeedsHelp posted...
Fbi is basically Hillary's bitch, tried to take down Trump

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Funkydog
02/02/18 4:49:13 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Funkydog posted...
First we need to know what side politically you are on.

No you don't

It changes it dramatically though!
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hollow_shrine
02/02/18 4:49:20 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
I ain't reading 7 pages

http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/20180129/106822/HMTG-115-IG00-20180129-SD001.pdf

It's not seven pages, It's not even six, because there's a cover letter. It's also kind of the literal least you could do. Afterwards you can start scanning news outlets for their analysis.
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Hinakuluiau
02/02/18 4:50:37 PM
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Republicans hype up the contents of the memo to prove there is a Deep State
Memo is released, basically confirms most of what media sources like the NYT and WashPost have already said
White House worries that the memo was underwhelming. Nunes says it was written by aides

Regardless of which side politically you are, the memo was a waste of time. It was more effective before it was released, much the same as a horror movie before we see the monster.
This is now worrying quite a few conservatives that the memo is going to backfire on them.
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Muffinz0rz
02/02/18 4:50:40 PM
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Funkydog posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
Funkydog posted...
First we need to know what side politically you are on.

No you don't

It changes it dramatically though!

No it doesn't

hollow_shrine posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
I ain't reading 7 pages

http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/20180129/106822/HMTG-115-IG00-20180129-SD001.pdf

It's not seven pages, It's not even six, because there's a cover letter. It's also kind of the literal least you could do. Afterwards you can start scanning news outlets for their analysis.

Do you not know what tl;dr means

Hinakuluiau posted...
Republicans hype up the contents of the memo to prove there is a Deep State
Memo is released, basically confirms most of what media sources like the NYT and WashPost have already said
White House worries that the memo was underwhelming. Nunes says it was written by aides

Regardless of which side politically you are, the memo was a waste of time. It was more effective before it was released, much the same as a horror movie before we see the monster.
This is now worrying quite a few conservatives that the memo is going to backfire on them.

TF is a deep state
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Funkydog
02/02/18 4:51:42 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
No it doesn't

Well, no. Not really. But both sides seem to have taken something so completely different away from it all....
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Hinakuluiau
02/02/18 4:53:09 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
TF is a deep state

The idea is that the FBI controls the country or is in league with Clinton and Obama to control it.
It's standard conspiracy theories 101 and appeals to many Trump supporters.
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Questionmarktarius
02/02/18 4:53:38 PM
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Muffinz0rz
02/02/18 4:53:55 PM
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Funkydog posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
No it doesn't

Well, no. Not really. But both sides seem to have taken something so completely different away from it all....

tl;dr both sides then

Hinakuluiau posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
TF is a deep state

The idea is that the FBI controls the country or is in league with Clinton and Obama to control it.
It's standard conspiracy theories 101 and appeals to many Trump supporters.

I thought that was the NSA/CIA

Questionmarktarius posted...
http://moziru.com/images/rolls-clipart-burger-bun-5.jpg

Sounds about right based on the comments ITT

shockthemonkey posted...
The accuracy of the memo isnt even verified, but Trumpers have been hanging on to it like its the holy grail, and now that its out is just lists a bunch of conservative talking points that weve already heard over the last year. And again, unverified talking points.

Points about what
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Broseph_Stalin
02/02/18 4:54:38 PM
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It's just a political stunt that backfired on Republicans.
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hollow_shrine
02/02/18 5:03:41 PM
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If you're a conservative, the you'll take away that the the justification for the FISA renewal warrant that rolled Carter Paige was based on the Steele Dossier, which itself was a hack job by Steele written to take down the Trump campaign. It also asserts in a couple ways that Steele was actually a close ally of the FBI and that the FBI (as a proxy of the Clinton campaign) paid for the Dossier.

Basically the FISA renewal only happened because the FBI was manipulating the facts as they presented them, and their subsequent arrest of Carter Paige is an abuse of power. The information that they collected to convict him of being an agent for a foreign power was acquired illegally.

The above is all bullshit. If you've been following the story of Carter Paige's arrest, you'll know the timeline the memo suggests is completely nonsensical. And really, that's just the beginning. The writers of the memo seem to have no grasp of procedure across several state and judicial departments, and basic knowledge of these things causes what follows to unravel spectacularly.
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