Poll of the Day > Canada is changing its anthem to be gender neutral

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OhhhJa posted...

I'm in no position to judge the media from my own country?

No, you're not, because the media from your country is designed to brainwash and confuse you. Americans are by and large confused and that is how someone like Trump gets elected.

OhhhJa posted...

Did you come up with that on your own or regurgitate it from the 500 million other people who have used that retort?

There isn't even 500 million people in either of our countries combined lol come on.
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Nightengale posted...

Americans are by and large confused and that is how someone like Trump gets elected.

well... no. the media wanted Hillary. Trump is the americans' response to this same kind of extreme-left nonsense trying to rear its ugly head there. but yeah, Trump is gloriously anti-left and anti-political-correctness, not a nazi.
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Nightengale posted...

No, you're not, because the media from your country is designed to brainwash and confuse you. Americans are by and large confused and that is how someone like Trump gets elected.

No the reason he got elected is because everybody laughed at him and didn't take him seriously. Then they forgot to vote. Plus he would have lost if literally anybody else was his opponent.
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Sahuagin posted...

Nightengale posted...

Americans are by and large confused and that is how someone like Trump gets elected.

well... no. the media wanted Hillary. Trump is the americans' response to this same kind of extreme-left nonsense trying to rear its ugly head there. but yeah, Trump is gloriously anti-left and anti-political-correctness, not a nazi.

This. Americans are extremely distrustful of their own press. And with good reason. It's all bought and paid for and all MSM exists to promote an agenda

OhhhJa posted...

Man, look at the spewing of rhetoric and propaganda going on. Defending speech even If it hurts someone's feelings equates to burning crosses on people's lawns... Give me a fucking break . Typical leftist identity politics garbage... anyone who disagrees with you is a murderous, racist, uneducated bigot. If anyone's brainwashed about what American people are like it's Canadians. What have the Canadian people contributed to the world... nothing compared to Americans. The only reason the rest of the world is obsessed with our culture and politics is because of our influence and importance globally.

Also, equating being legally obligated to use specific gender pronouns to threatening someone is absurd. Believe or not, hurting someone's feelings isn't the same thing as threatening them. You can do one without the other. Restricting speech does nothing but hamper discourse. There is always someone that will find almost anything you say offensive. Restricting any speech that isn't a threat is tyrannical. The government should have no place in telling people they can't hurt someone's feelings

Pictured: someone who's totally not insecure guys, like, seriously!
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darkknight109 posted...

OhhhJa posted...

Man, look at the spewing of rhetoric and propaganda going on. Defending speech even If it hurts someone's feelings equates to burning crosses on people's lawns... Give me a fucking break . Typical leftist identity politics garbage... anyone who disagrees with you is a murderous, racist, uneducated bigot. If anyone's brainwashed about what American people are like it's Canadians. What have the Canadian people contributed to the world... nothing compared to Americans. The only reason the rest of the world is obsessed with our culture and politics is because of our influence and importance globally.

Also, equating being legally obligated to use specific gender pronouns to threatening someone is absurd. Believe or not, hurting someone's feelings isn't the same thing as threatening them. You can do one without the other. Restricting speech does nothing but hamper discourse. There is always someone that will find almost anything you say offensive. Restricting any speech that isn't a threat is tyrannical. The government should have no place in telling people they can't hurt someone's feelings

Pictured: someone who's totally not insecure guys, like, seriously!

Funny coming from the guy who posts rants twice as long as mine about everything trying so hard to prove he's the smartest person alive

Sahuagin posted...

Nightengale posted...

Americans are by and large confused and that is how someone like Trump gets elected.

well... no. the media wanted Hillary. Trump is the americans' response to this same kind of extreme-left nonsense trying to rear its ugly head there. but yeah, Trump is gloriously anti-left and anti-political-correctness, not a nazi.

First off, since when does Fox want Hillary?

Trump is the result of people taking anyone (anyone) who would spout populist ideas for once. None of which he delivered on, because he's just as corrupt as Hillary if not more. He's currently the least popular President in US history. Some buffoons call him glorious because he talks like a 10-year-old.

The only policies concerning the American people he seems to care about is how many brown people are allowed in. People from Africa? Shithole country, we don't need them. Norway? Hell yeah, let them in. It doesn't matter that Africans immigrants are on average more educated.
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Sahuagin posted...

Hillary

Sahuagin posted...

extreme-left

OhhhJa posted...

Funny coming from the guy who posts rants twice as long as mine about everything trying so hard to prove he's the smartest person alive

Only twice as long? Either you post way longer posts somewhere I'm not looking or you haven't actually read many of my rants.
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This is the kind of thing that obsessive, jealous Americans would get triggered over.
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this is what arv got from the article 'Equality'

A group of women
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What a lot of people seem to ignore is that this line being changed is actually bringing it back closer to the original text.

The song was first composed in French and performed on June 24th 1880.

Several English versions followed and in 1908, Robert Stanley Weir made a version that became the 'standard'

In 1914, the line : "True patriot love thou dost in us command." was changed for the one that says: "True patriot love in all thy sons command

The song was adopted as Canada's National anthem in 1980.

The change now, involves that same line again and it will say: "True patriot love in all of us command

The new line will be gender neutral and more inclusive but, if you dislike the idea of changing the song; remember that it will bring it back closer to its original state.

There is really nothing to be angry about, nor is there any conspiracies against men to cry over in this story.
I swear people who complain about SJW all the time, often come off as a lot whinier than the people they fear so much. Try to adapt to the changing world and start acting like the strong people you think yourselves to be.
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so the quebecers had it right all along?

Yellow posted...

First off, since when does Fox want Hillary?

"the media" doesn't mean "the entire media". obviously fox can't be anything but pro-right.

Grendel posted...

Sahuagin posted...

Hillary

Sahuagin posted...

extreme-left

I referred to extreme-left ideas, particularly identity politics. I didn't say Hillary herself was wholly extreme-left.
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Warning: Long post of my disjointed thoughts

I dont like things like changing national anthem to appease people who kept crying tbh xD the point of them is power and strength! If I can cry hard enough that it just changed eeehhh it looks dumb and weak to me.

Well not just national anthem

I dont like that today, if enough people cry and scream injustice media will bend over backwards.
It has ruined stories before (in games and shows) for the sake of not having injustices
But...they still found something to cry about

Instead of focusing on a throughline lets just find a way to include all 142 current genders, and every sexuality variation, maybe some otherkin

People need to stop whining

For example: Im Asian
In most video games and movies, theres mostly white people and some black people (well Im not talking about anime since anime people have no race its just default human being)
Id rather have a good story with good actors.

Now its simple to make someone Asian and doesnt have to change their character. If all the sudden they love noodles and math thats pretty racist

So if thats how you think to handle things
Dont change anything
You risk being more offensive trying to do something you dont fully understand!

I do think female diversity matters.
If all heroes are men and all seconds are women yeah that can be harmful

But every kid I know is faster to be like shes a girl like me! Than oh she isnt asian? Or anything like that.

And its nice to see some people writing stories where yeah girls can do awesome things without really relying on anyone, or with relying on some close people but not because hes a man and therefor better at this.

I also dont like how people will point at the awesome Japanese martial arts master as Asian representation because that character is usually filled with stereotypes and often part of the white hero story where a white man learns an ancient Asian art, becomes better than all the fragile Asians, gets the girl (often Asian princess) and then saves the Asians (sometimes from themselves)

Also because Im vietnamese so cool one size fits all representation is awesome I guess? Not really.

Well, those are my thoughts I guess.
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Yellow posted...

First off, since when does Fox want Hillary?

Fox is the only big right wing MSM outlet. Fox is garbage too but all other MSM outlets were pushing hard for Hillary

It seems like a fair change to me. Besides, if you read the article, the change is actually making it more like the original and French versions.
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Nightengale posted...

OhhhJa posted...

I'm in no position to judge the media from my own country?

No, you're not, because the media from your country is designed to brainwash and confuse you. Americans are by and large confused and that is how someone like Trump gets elected.

OhhhJa posted...

Did you come up with that on your own or regurgitate it from the 500 million other people who have used that retort?

There isn't even 500 million people in either of our countries combined lol come on.

Trump is the result of a perfect storm. There was no real Republican candidate. The Democrats already crowned Hillary because it was 'her time'. If it was anyone other than Hillary, Trump wouldn't have won.