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joestarrr
01/30/18 9:10:04 PM
#1:


i don't expect to be kept entertained like i'm some queen, but i really value meaningful conversations.

I hate it I get two word responses when I'm offering my thoughts and opinions.
Ones that are rooted in beliefs I hold intimate and dear, and are also rooted in years of research and self introspection.
I don't want to just shoot the shit with random people for shits and giggles. If I'm telling you certain things, you can be damn sure I trust you and trust that you are capable of holding a similar level of conversation or at least trying. It means I am also attempting to maintain some modicum of emotional intimacy.
So frustrating.
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josifrees
01/30/18 9:12:13 PM
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Sounds like you need someone else to talk to
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Aki_Narukami
01/30/18 9:12:52 PM
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I'm the someone that doesn't get it.
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joestarrr
01/30/18 9:16:36 PM
#4:


josifrees posted...
Sounds like you need someone else to talk to


True. It's not just talking as much as it is developing a deep connection with someone through meaningful, emotionally intimate conversations.

Aki_Narukami posted...
I'm the someone that doesn't get it.


:/ somehow I doubt that - most of the people who don't get it are unaware of themselves not getting it. it has a lot to do with self awareness too
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Zodd3224
01/30/18 9:18:47 PM
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I understand what you mean TC
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synth_real
01/30/18 11:17:29 PM
#6:


Have you ever considered that maybe your thoughts aren't as deep as you think they are?
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
01/30/18 11:20:13 PM
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So you have spent YEARS researching and developing your thoughts on a topic and expect someone to just be able to have a conversation about it whenever you feel like it?
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Turbam
01/30/18 11:20:40 PM
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Yup
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Eat More Beef
01/30/18 11:22:37 PM
#9:


So, you wanna converse? Let's converse. I'm half in the bag and watching "How I Met Your Mother".

I clearly have nothing better to do, so lets shoot the shit.
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Darmik
01/30/18 11:24:14 PM
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Its one of lifes great mysteries isn't it? Why are we here? I mean, are we the product of some cosmic coincidence, or is there really a God watching everything? You know, with a plan for us and stuff. I dont know, man, but it keeps me up at night.
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Eat More Beef
01/30/18 11:28:46 PM
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@Darmik posted...
Its one of lifes great mysteries isn't it? Why are we here? I mean, are we the product of some cosmic coincidence, or is there really a God watching everything? You know, with a plan for us and stuff. I dont know, man, but it keeps me up at night.


What used to keep me up at night (raised catholic) was the thought of eternity.
As an eight year old boy, I knew I enjoyed playing mega man, but doing that forever? Nope. Too crazy a thought. Like, you can enjoy doing things, but at least being alive you have that cut-off date. You die? That's it. There's nothing else and it's kind of comforting. To go to either a heaven or hell for eternity and continue to do things? Nah, too much.

That's why I'm an atheist. What do you feel?
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
01/31/18 8:50:43 AM
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Eat More Beef posted...
@Darmik posted...
Its one of lifes great mysteries isn't it? Why are we here? I mean, are we the product of some cosmic coincidence, or is there really a God watching everything? You know, with a plan for us and stuff. I dont know, man, but it keeps me up at night.


What used to keep me up at night (raised catholic) was the thought of eternity.
As an eight year old boy, I knew I enjoyed playing mega man, but doing that forever? Nope. Too crazy a thought. Like, you can enjoy doing things, but at least being alive you have that cut-off date. You die? That's it. There's nothing else and it's kind of comforting. To go to either a heaven or hell for eternity and continue to do things? Nah, too much.

That's why I'm an atheist. What do you feel?

Oh yeah. Totally man
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VectorChaos
01/31/18 8:55:29 AM
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Darmik posted...
Its one of lifes great mysteries isn't it? Why are we here? I mean, are we the product of some cosmic coincidence, or is there really a God watching everything? You know, with a plan for us and stuff. I dont know, man, but it keeps me up at night.

...What?! I mean why are we out here, in this canyon?
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joestarrr
01/31/18 9:15:34 PM
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synth_real posted...
Have you ever considered that maybe your thoughts aren't as deep as you think they are?

Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
So you have spent YEARS researching and developing your thoughts on a topic and expect someone to just be able to have a conversation about it whenever you feel like it?


Never change, CE.

For those of you who actually understood what I was trying to say instead of making up shit: thank you.
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ShadowNinja606
01/31/18 9:19:57 PM
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joestarrr posted...
synth_real posted...
Have you ever considered that maybe your thoughts aren't as deep as you think they are?

Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
So you have spent YEARS researching and developing your thoughts on a topic and expect someone to just be able to have a conversation about it whenever you feel like it?


Never change, CE.

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come on now what would you know about ce changing or not changing
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joestarrr
01/31/18 9:23:30 PM
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ShadowNinja606 posted...
joestarrr posted...
synth_real posted...
Have you ever considered that maybe your thoughts aren't as deep as you think they are?

Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
So you have spent YEARS researching and developing your thoughts on a topic and expect someone to just be able to have a conversation about it whenever you feel like it?


Never change, CE.

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user since December 2017

come on now what would you know about ce changing or not changing


I've been here since 2009 on and off.
But okay.
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Pepys Monster
01/31/18 9:27:03 PM
#17:


So what's the deep conversation you were trying to have? My hot lesbian friend likes thinking deeply about stuff and asks me what I think about stuff.
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joestarrr
01/31/18 9:33:08 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
So what's the deep conversation you were trying to have? My hot lesbian friend likes thinking deeply about stuff and asks me what I think about stuff.


I'll share a bit.
I was discussing a lot about the nuance of emotions (in reference to my own) and developing emotional intelligence. It means a lot to me, more than "oh i just brush it off" but actually processing and developing a rational, logical way to handle emotions and relationships; sharing that development with others in hopes I may facilitate further discussion or at least provide greater insight.
(In a nutshell. There was other stuff but since it was a bit too personal, I'll leave it at this)
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byrone
01/31/18 9:35:24 PM
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Hey guys in case you missed the first sentence of this topic the TC is a girl

And this is the internet.

A girl. On the internet.
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Pepys Monster
01/31/18 9:35:27 PM
#20:


joestarrr posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
So what's the deep conversation you were trying to have? My hot lesbian friend likes thinking deeply about stuff and asks me what I think about stuff.


I'll share a bit.
I was discussing a lot about the nuance of emotions (in reference to my own) and developing emotional intelligence. It means a lot to me, more than "oh i just brush it off" but actually processing and developing a rational, logical way to handle emotions and relationships; sharing that development with others in hopes I may facilitate further discussion or at least provide greater insight.
(In a nutshell. There was other stuff but since it was a bit too personal, I'll leave it at this)

This is kind of vague, but okay.
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Pepys Monster
01/31/18 9:36:25 PM
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byrone posted...
Hey guys in case you missed the first sentence of this topic the TC is a girl

And this is the internet.

A girl. On the internet.

It's 2018, bro. There are thousands of thots on instagram.
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Kazi1212
01/31/18 9:39:18 PM
#22:


joestarrr posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
So what's the deep conversation you were trying to have? My hot lesbian friend likes thinking deeply about stuff and asks me what I think about stuff.


I'll share a bit.
I was discussing a lot about the nuance of emotions (in reference to my own) and developing emotional intelligence. It means a lot to me, more than "oh i just brush it off" but actually processing and developing a rational, logical way to handle emotions and relationships; sharing that development with others in hopes I may facilitate further discussion or at least provide greater insight.
(In a nutshell. There was other stuff but since it was a bit too personal, I'll leave it at this)


Life is learning how to process your emotions, everyone does it differently because everyone is unique and whats a good way of processing emotions for some isnt the same for others. Did you figure this out in your years of research?
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Dustin1280
01/31/18 9:39:23 PM
#23:


Honestly it seems like a weird conversation to bring up, unless something actually lead to that....

I mean were they talking about a movie or something and you were like: "Hey so ever thought about the nuance of emotion...?"
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masticatingman
01/31/18 9:45:01 PM
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Yeah, Ive been there.
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Vulgorn
01/31/18 9:45:40 PM
#25:


Dustin1280 posted...
Honestly it seems like a weird conversation to bring up, unless something actually lead to that....

I mean were they talking about a movie or something and you were like: "Hey so ever thought about the nuance of emotion...?"

Someone's clearly never partook in the Devils lettuce
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joestarrr
01/31/18 9:46:07 PM
#26:


Kazi1212 posted...
joestarrr posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
So what's the deep conversation you were trying to have? My hot lesbian friend likes thinking deeply about stuff and asks me what I think about stuff.


I'll share a bit.
I was discussing a lot about the nuance of emotions (in reference to my own) and developing emotional intelligence. It means a lot to me, more than "oh i just brush it off" but actually processing and developing a rational, logical way to handle emotions and relationships; sharing that development with others in hopes I may facilitate further discussion or at least provide greater insight.
(In a nutshell. There was other stuff but since it was a bit too personal, I'll leave it at this)


Life is learning how to process your emotions, everyone does it differently because everyone is unique and whats a good way of processing emotions for some isnt the same for others. Did you figure this out in your years of research?


Clearly missing the point, but I'll bite.

1. I've been working on myself for years; had a shit life and figured shit out. 2. It wasn't just about that. 3. Don't really get the point in mocking me, but ok. Whatever helps you sleep at night bub.
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Dustin1280
01/31/18 9:47:25 PM
#27:


Vulgorn posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
Honestly it seems like a weird conversation to bring up, unless something actually lead to that....

I mean were they talking about a movie or something and you were like: "Hey so ever thought about the nuance of emotion...?"

Someone's clearly never partook in the Devils lettuce

That has nothing to do with it at all. High or not, if the conversation didn't naturally start leading that direction and you just piped up something like that I can completely understand why they gave you two words responses...
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joestarrr
01/31/18 9:47:52 PM
#28:


Vulgorn posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
Honestly it seems like a weird conversation to bring up, unless something actually lead to that....

I mean were they talking about a movie or something and you were like: "Hey so ever thought about the nuance of emotion...?"

Someone's clearly never partook in the Devils lettuce


LOL

but also there was a lot leading up to the conversation and i trusted this person to be able to respond on my level, basically.
I like to surround myself with people who are on my level or are at least capable of seeing things from where I am.
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Vulgorn
01/31/18 9:48:10 PM
#29:


Dustin1280 posted...
Vulgorn posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
Honestly it seems like a weird conversation to bring up, unless something actually lead to that....

I mean were they talking about a movie or something and you were like: "Hey so ever thought about the nuance of emotion...?"

Someone's clearly never partook in the Devils lettuce

That has nothing to do with it at all. High or not, if the conversation didn't naturally start leading that direction and you just piped up something like that I can completely understand why they gave you two words responses...

If you had partaken, you would understand
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Vol2tex
01/31/18 9:49:54 PM
#30:


That's why I stopped messaging people. I used to message or email friends and write a paragraph with intelligent or meaningful content, only to get no response or a short response.
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Dustin1280
01/31/18 9:50:43 PM
#31:


Vulgorn posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
Vulgorn posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
Honestly it seems like a weird conversation to bring up, unless something actually lead to that....

I mean were they talking about a movie or something and you were like: "Hey so ever thought about the nuance of emotion...?"

Someone's clearly never partook in the Devils lettuce

That has nothing to do with it at all. High or not, if the conversation didn't naturally start leading that direction and you just piped up something like that I can completely understand why they gave you two words responses...

If you had partaken, you would understand

Hate to break it to you but being high doesn't turn everyone who is high into deep thinkers...

And some of the shit that is brought up when high is absolutely ridiculous in hindsight...

But I assume the TC wasn't high to begin with during this conversation so it's a moot point.

All I'm saying TC, is you have been saying things like holding a conversation "on your level" and coming off fairly pretentious.

If the conversation didn't actually naturally lead up to that, I am not surprised in the slightest at the results you received.

If it did, I would question what series of conversations lead to that eventual topic if discussion.
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Kazi1212
01/31/18 9:51:03 PM
#32:


joestarrr posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
joestarrr posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
So what's the deep conversation you were trying to have? My hot lesbian friend likes thinking deeply about stuff and asks me what I think about stuff.


I'll share a bit.
I was discussing a lot about the nuance of emotions (in reference to my own) and developing emotional intelligence. It means a lot to me, more than "oh i just brush it off" but actually processing and developing a rational, logical way to handle emotions and relationships; sharing that development with others in hopes I may facilitate further discussion or at least provide greater insight.
(In a nutshell. There was other stuff but since it was a bit too personal, I'll leave it at this)


Life is learning how to process your emotions, everyone does it differently because everyone is unique and whats a good way of processing emotions for some isnt the same for others. Did you figure this out in your years of research?


Clearly missing the point, but I'll bite.

1. I've been working on myself for years; had a shit life and figured shit out. 2. It wasn't just about that. 3. Don't really get the point in mocking me, but ok. Whatever helps you sleep at night bub.


1. You arent the only one so I fail to see why this is relevant 2. Fair enough 3. Forgive the slight, but the impression people are getting here is that you think somehow youre more capable of having meaningful conversations than others, theres an air of arrogance to it which no one likes
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joestarrr
01/31/18 9:56:59 PM
#33:


Just a quick refresher:
- I am choosing to not give exact details of the entire conversation out of respect for the other person.
-The purpose of this topic was to relate to others who have had similar experiences.
- I do not have to justify myself to anyone. This being said, I have had my thoughts and opinions be met with positive, or at least, constructive and meaningful feedback by people who are far wiser than I am.
- Wanting to talk to people who can and want to hold the same level of conversation that I am offering is reasonable.
- I may complain about what I wish to complain about, and I've seen far worse be met with markedly less derision.
And again:
The purpose of this topic was to relate to others who have had similar experiences.
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joestarrr
01/31/18 9:59:12 PM
#34:


Kazi1212 posted...
joestarrr posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
joestarrr posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
So what's the deep conversation you were trying to have? My hot lesbian friend likes thinking deeply about stuff and asks me what I think about stuff.


I'll share a bit.
I was discussing a lot about the nuance of emotions (in reference to my own) and developing emotional intelligence. It means a lot to me, more than "oh i just brush it off" but actually processing and developing a rational, logical way to handle emotions and relationships; sharing that development with others in hopes I may facilitate further discussion or at least provide greater insight.
(In a nutshell. There was other stuff but since it was a bit too personal, I'll leave it at this)


Life is learning how to process your emotions, everyone does it differently because everyone is unique and whats a good way of processing emotions for some isnt the same for others. Did you figure this out in your years of research?


Clearly missing the point, but I'll bite.

1. I've been working on myself for years; had a shit life and figured shit out. 2. It wasn't just about that. 3. Don't really get the point in mocking me, but ok. Whatever helps you sleep at night bub.


1. You arent the only one so I fail to see why this is relevant 2. Fair enough 3. Forgive the slight, but the impression people are getting here is that you think somehow youre more capable of having meaningful conversations than others, theres an air of arrogance to it which no one likes


....I don't? It was in reference to a singular, fixed point - an experience that I recently had, which had me thinking about the other times this has happened. I have had meaningful conversations with many people - it was just disappointing that I put my trust into someone who didn't get it, essentially.
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Dustin1280
01/31/18 10:01:36 PM
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joestarrr posted...
Just a quick refresher:
- I am choosing to not give exact details of the entire conversation out of respect for the other person.
-The purpose of this topic was to relate to others who have had similar experiences.
- I do not have to justify myself to anyone. This being said, I have had my thoughts and opinions be met with positive, or at least, constructive and meaningful feedback by people who are far wiser than I am.
- Wanting to talk to people who can and want to hold the same level of conversation that I am offering is reasonable.
- I may complain about what I wish to complain about, and I've seen far worse be met with markedly less derision.
And again:
The purpose of this topic was to relate to others who have had similar experiences.

1. Fine not an issue
2. You mean other who come off as someone who believes themselves to be able to hold deep conversations that people simply don't understand and getting frustrated when they don't return said "level" of conversation?
3. The feedback here has not necessary been to make fun of you. It's people telling you exactly how you sounded in your opening post.
4. That depends, if the conversation lead to such a thing naturally sure. But if came from left field, no that isn't exactly reasonable.
5. You absolutely can, and if you sound pretentious expect to be called on it.
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Vulgorn
01/31/18 10:02:39 PM
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*sets up lawn chair*
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