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TheGoldenEel 01/30/18 7:57:08 PM #1:	They do make it easier to put the mask on but I still hate being alone with my own thoughts Is this normal or should I go back to my doctor --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:895136079] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>They do make it easier to put the mask on but I still hate being alone with my own thoughts Is this normal or should I go back to my doctor</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3deep5u 01/30/18 7:58:22 PM #2:	They promote regeneration of neurons in your white matter. ~~so does marijuana~~ --- 2deep4u 7deep9all <cite>3deep5u posted [p:895136155] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>They promote regeneration of neurons in your white matter. so does marijuana</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 01/30/18 7:59:17 PM #3:	3deep5u posted... They promote regeneration of neurons in your white matter. ~~so does marijuana~~ Marijuana amps my self consciousness up to 11, I dont like it --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:895136212] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>3deep5u posted...</cite> <quote>They promote regeneration of neurons in your white matter. so does marijuana</quote> Marijuana amps my self consciousness up to 11, I dont like it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3deep5u 01/30/18 7:59:34 PM #4:	https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/unraveling-the-mystery-of-ssris-depression/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4543605/ --- 2deep4u 7deep9all <cite>3deep5u posted [p:895136231] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/unraveling-the-mystery-of-ssris-depression/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4543605/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 01/30/18 8:00:27 PM #5:	For me, they didn't work. --- Loading... <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:895136268] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>For me, they didn't work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 01/30/18 8:01:56 PM #6:	3deep5u posted... https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/unraveling-the-mystery-of-ssris-depression/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4543605/ I dont mean how, scientifically, do they work. I mean how am i supposed to feel --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:895136370] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>3deep5u posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/unraveling-the-mystery-of-ssris-depression/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4543605/</quote> I dont mean how, scientifically, do they work. I mean how am i supposed to feel</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chill02 01/30/18 8:02:20 PM #7:	how long have you been taking them --- Ave, true to Caesar. <cite>chill02 posted [p:895136392] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>how long have you been taking them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 01/30/18 8:02:39 PM #8:	SSRIs are still up for debate, but Wellbutrin works by increasing the amount of norepinephrine and dopamine in the central nervous system, which promotes alertness and a sensation of being rewarded for what you're doing. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:895136406] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>SSRIs are still up for debate, but Wellbutrin works by increasing the amount of norepinephrine and dopamine in the central nervous system, which promotes alertness and a sensation of being rewarded for what you're doing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 01/30/18 8:02:42 PM #9:	They give you more serotonin, so in other words they literally just force you into a good mood. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:895136414] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>They give you more serotonin, so in other words they literally just force you into a good mood.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 01/30/18 8:02:54 PM #10:	TheGoldenEel posted... 3deep5u posted... https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/unraveling-the-mystery-of-ssris-depression/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4543605/ I dont mean how, scientifically, do they work. I mean how am i supposed to feel I don't know, I still felt depressed. --- Loading... <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:895136428] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>3deep5u posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/unraveling-the-mystery-of-ssris-depression/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4543605/</quote> I dont mean how, scientifically, do they work. I mean how am i supposed to feel</quote> I don't know, I still felt depressed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 01/30/18 8:04:14 PM #11:	TheGoldenEel posted... 3deep5u posted... https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/unraveling-the-mystery-of-ssris-depression/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4543605/ I dont mean how, scientifically, do they work. I mean how am i supposed to feel It depends on the antidepressant Fluoxetine - Alert, energetic, but somewhat apathetic Paroxetine - Calm, relaxed, sometimes tired Bupropion - Focused, alert, somewhat anxious Sertraline - Halfway between fluoxetine and paroxetine --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:895136518] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>3deep5u posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/unraveling-the-mystery-of-ssris-depression/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4543605/</quote> I dont mean how, scientifically, do they work. I mean how am i supposed to feel</quote> It depends on the antidepressant Fluoxetine - Alert, energetic, but somewhat apathetic Paroxetine - Calm, relaxed, sometimes tired Bupropion - Focused, alert, somewhat anxious Sertraline - Halfway between fluoxetine and paroxetine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 01/30/18 8:05:03 PM #12:	chill02 posted... how long have you been taking them Since September --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:895136586] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>chill02 posted...</cite> <quote>how long have you been taking them</quote> Since September</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sami1000 01/30/18 8:06:15 PM #13:	If you hate feeling stuff, they're good. Makes you more mentally numb and possibly more passive and anemic because you're less interested in anything. At least for me, thry have done just that. I have eaten 4-5 kinds for over ten years, and if i could go back in time i wouldn't start taking them. At this point they have likely done only damage, and zero helping. --- Can't think any good sig <cite>Sami1000 posted [p:895136650] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>If you hate feeling stuff, they're good. Makes you more mentally numb and possibly more passive and anemic because you're less interested in anything. At least for me, thry have done just that. I have eaten 4-5 kinds for over ten years, and if i could go back in time i wouldn't start taking them. At this point they have likely done only damage, and zero helping.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 01/30/18 8:06:57 PM #14:	Yeah Im taking fluoxetine and it makes me want to do things more than usual but also when Im out doing those things I feel like no one will ever love me and Im wasting my time --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:895136678] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>Yeah Im taking fluoxetine and it makes me want to do things more than usual but also when Im out doing those things I feel like no one will ever love me and Im wasting my time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 01/30/18 8:08:06 PM #16:	sometimes the person taking them doesn't feel any different, but the people around that person notice the changes. --- let's positive thinking [this post tastes like lunch] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:895136749] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>sometimes the person taking them doesn't feel any different, but the people around that person notice the changes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 01/30/18 8:08:53 PM #17:	TheGoldenEel posted... Yeah Im taking fluoxetine and it makes me want to do things more than usual but also when Im out doing those things I feel like no one will ever love me and Im wasting my time You'd probably do better with Bupropion (Wellbutrin). It has the stimulating properties of fluoxetine but instead of blunting emotions, it tends to amp them up a bit. Bupropion is actually a distant cousin to the amphetamines, but without the addictiveness or high. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:895136803] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGoldenEel posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah Im taking fluoxetine and it makes me want to do things more than usual but also when Im out doing those things I feel like no one will ever love me and Im wasting my time</quote> You'd probably do better with Bupropion (Wellbutrin). It has the stimulating properties of fluoxetine but instead of blunting emotions, it tends to amp them up a bit. Bupropion is actually a distant cousin to the amphetamines, but without the addictiveness or high.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 01/30/18 8:12:40 PM #18:	3deep5u posted... They promote regeneration of neurons in your white matter. ~~so does marijuana~~ This isn't an accurate statement lol --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:895137038] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>3deep5u posted...</cite> <quote>They promote regeneration of neurons in your white matter. so does marijuana</quote> This isn't an accurate statement lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3deep5u 01/30/18 8:13:18 PM #19:	COVxy posted... 3deep5u posted... They promote regeneration of neurons in your white matter. ~~so does marijuana~~ This isn't an accurate statement lol Read the sources I posted. Feel free to correct me too. --- 2deep4u 7deep9all <cite>3deep5u posted [p:895137072] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>3deep5u posted...</cite> <quote>They promote regeneration of neurons in your white matter. so does marijuana</quote> This isn't an accurate statement lol</quote> Read the sources I posted. Feel free to correct me too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 01/30/18 8:14:24 PM #20:	Also, just a word of advice - don't ever get psychiatric med advice from people who aren't psychiatrists or at least medical professionals. The most common mistake people make is using the medication incorrectly and then telling everyone else how bad it was. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:895137138] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>Also, just a word of advice - don't ever get psychiatric med advice from people who aren't psychiatrists or at least medical professionals. The most common mistake people make is using the medication incorrectly and then telling everyone else how bad it was.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3deep5u 01/30/18 8:15:04 PM #21:	Coffeebeanz posted... Also, just a word of advice - don't ever get psychiatric med advice from people who aren't psychiatrists or at least medical professionals. The most common mistake people make is using the medication incorrectly and then telling everyone else how bad it was. I got mine from a nurse practitioner, not a psychiatrist. --- 2deep4u 7deep9all <cite>3deep5u posted [p:895137175] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>Also, just a word of advice - don't ever get psychiatric med advice from people who aren't psychiatrists or at least medical professionals. The most common mistake people make is using the medication incorrectly and then telling everyone else how bad it was.</quote> I got mine from a nurse practitioner, not a psychiatrist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 01/30/18 8:15:46 PM #22:	3deep5u posted... Read the sources I posted. Feel free to correct me too. Well, I mean, there are no neurons in white matter, as white matter is consistent of the axons extending from cell bodies. Cell bodies are grey matter. The idea of SSRIs promoting synaptogenesis isn't wrong, you are just using the wrong jargon. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:895137213] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>3deep5u posted...</cite> <quote>Read the sources I posted. Feel free to correct me too.</quote> Well, I mean, there are no neurons in white matter, as white matter is consistent of the axons extending from cell bodies. Cell bodies are grey matter. The idea of SSRIs promoting synaptogenesis isn't wrong, you are just using the wrong jargon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3deep5u 01/30/18 8:16:28 PM #23:	Okay, thank you for clarifying. --- 2deep4u 7deep9all <cite>3deep5u posted [p:895137253] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>Okay, thank you for clarifying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PhlogPyro 01/30/18 8:17:50 PM #24:	well in my experience, they fucking don't --- For the internet is dark and full of normies. If the right calls you a cultural Marxist and the left calls you a Nazi, that's a sign you're on the right path. <cite>PhlogPyro posted [p:895137346] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>well in my experience, they fucking don't</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 01/30/18 8:25:01 PM #25:	Coffeebeanz posted... SSRIs are still up for debate, but Wellbutrin works by increasing the amount of norepinephrine and dopamine in the central nervous system, which promotes alertness and a sensation of being rewarded for what you're doing. Wellbutrin is glorified caffeine. Vyvanse instantly kicked my depression. Like literally instantly. It stopped and never came back from the moment the first dose kicked in. But yeah, it's an amphetamine, and it's hard to justify going on it if you don't have ADHD. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:895137796] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>SSRIs are still up for debate, but Wellbutrin works by increasing the amount of norepinephrine and dopamine in the central nervous system, which promotes alertness and a sensation of being rewarded for what you're doing.</quote> Wellbutrin is glorified caffeine. Vyvanse instantly kicked my depression. Like literally instantly. It stopped and never came back from the moment the first dose kicked in. But yeah, it's an amphetamine, and it's hard to justify going on it if you don't have ADHD.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 01/30/18 8:25:22 PM #26:	3deep5u posted... Okay, thank you for clarifying. Also, needless to really say, it's not accurate to say marijuana does the same thing. My guess is that you are just looking for justifications for your self imposed cessation of SSRIs and self medication via marijuana. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:895137821] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>3deep5u posted...</cite> <quote>Okay, thank you for clarifying.</quote> Also, needless to really say, it's not accurate to say marijuana does the same thing. My guess is that you are just looking for justifications for your self imposed cessation of SSRIs and self medication via marijuana.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 01/30/18 8:25:42 PM #27:	weapon_d00d816 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... SSRIs are still up for debate, but Wellbutrin works by increasing the amount of norepinephrine and dopamine in the central nervous system, which promotes alertness and a sensation of being rewarded for what you're doing. Wellbutrin is glorified caffeine. Vyvanse instantly kicked my depression. Like literally instantly. It stopped and never came back from the moment the first dose kicked in. But yeah, it's an amphetamine, and it's hard to justify going on it if you don't have ADHD. Vyvanse is literally amphetamine. Literally. Just not appropriate for most people. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:895137841] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>SSRIs are still up for debate, but Wellbutrin works by increasing the amount of norepinephrine and dopamine in the central nervous system, which promotes alertness and a sensation of being rewarded for what you're doing.</quote> Wellbutrin is glorified caffeine. Vyvanse instantly kicked my depression. Like literally instantly. It stopped and never came back from the moment the first dose kicked in. But yeah, it's an amphetamine, and it's hard to justify going on it if you don't have ADHD.</quote> Vyvanse is literally amphetamine. Literally. Just not appropriate for most people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 01/30/18 8:28:01 PM #28:	Coffeebeanz posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... SSRIs are still up for debate, but Wellbutrin works by increasing the amount of norepinephrine and dopamine in the central nervous system, which promotes alertness and a sensation of being rewarded for what you're doing. Wellbutrin is glorified caffeine. Vyvanse instantly kicked my depression. Like literally instantly. It stopped and never came back from the moment the first dose kicked in. But yeah, it's an amphetamine, and it's hard to justify going on it if you don't have ADHD. Vyvanse is literally amphetamine. Literally. Just not appropriate for most people. If my patient was suicidal and I was a psychiatrist I would highly consider it. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:895137977] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>SSRIs are still up for debate, but Wellbutrin works by increasing the amount of norepinephrine and dopamine in the central nervous system, which promotes alertness and a sensation of being rewarded for what you're doing.</quote> Wellbutrin is glorified caffeine. Vyvanse instantly kicked my depression. Like literally instantly. It stopped and never came back from the moment the first dose kicked in. But yeah, it's an amphetamine, and it's hard to justify going on it if you don't have ADHD.</quote> Vyvanse is literally amphetamine. Literally. Just not appropriate for most people.</quote> If my patient was suicidal and I was a psychiatrist I would highly consider it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3deep5u 01/30/18 8:28:36 PM #29:	COVxy posted... My guess is that you are just looking for justifications for your self imposed cessation of SSRIs and self medication via marijuana. Read the sources I posted and look it up for yourself. I might be remembering it wrong. I'm on the phone too. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=marijuana+neurogenesis Using this because google links suck --- 2deep4u 7deep9all <cite>3deep5u posted [p:895138014] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote> My guess is that you are just looking for justifications for your self imposed cessation of SSRIs and self medication via marijuana.</quote> Read the sources I posted and look it up for yourself. I might be remembering it wrong. I'm on the phone too. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=marijuana+neurogenesis Using this because google links suck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sami1000 01/30/18 8:29:52 PM #30:	Coffeebeanz posted... Also, just a word of advice - don't ever get psychiatric med advice from people who aren't psychiatrists or at least medical professionals. The most common mistake people make is using the medication incorrectly and then telling everyone else how bad it was. Yeah, i agree. Never trust a person who has eaten said meds for years or decades. Trust some corporate shills, who read information from the back of the box. --- Can't think any good sig <cite>Sami1000 posted [p:895138091] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>Also, just a word of advice - don't ever get psychiatric med advice from people who aren't psychiatrists or at least medical professionals. The most common mistake people make is using the medication incorrectly and then telling everyone else how bad it was.</quote> Yeah, i agree. Never trust a person who has eaten said meds for years or decades. Trust some corporate shills, who read information from the back of the box.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 01/30/18 8:30:37 PM #31:	Neurogenesis and synaptogenesis are two very different processes, and the primary results in SSRI research seem to point to synaptogensis. Plus the marijuana effects on neurogenesis are very complicated, dose dependent, and never related to depressive symptoms. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:895138141] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>Neurogenesis and synaptogenesis are two very different processes, and the primary results in SSRI research seem to point to synaptogensis. Plus the marijuana effects on neurogenesis are very complicated, dose dependent, and never related to depressive symptoms.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3deep5u 01/30/18 8:31:19 PM #32:	Where does the neurogenesis take place? --- 2deep4u 7deep9all <cite>3deep5u posted [p:895138187] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>Where does the neurogenesis take place?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmonAmarth 01/30/18 8:32:05 PM #33:	ive heard doctors themselves dont know the exact way. but i kinda relates to neurotransmitters, serotonin or others, and a few other things. --- i7-4790@ 3.6GHZ \| GA-Z97-HD3 \| ASUS GTX 960 2GB \| Samsung 850 EVO 250GB \| 1TB HDD \| CX750M \| 12GB DDR3 <cite>AmonAmarth posted [p:895138232] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>ive heard doctors themselves dont know the exact way. but i kinda relates to neurotransmitters, serotonin or others, and a few other things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 01/30/18 8:33:06 PM #34:	3deep5u posted... Where does the neurogenesis take place? Primarily, research on adult neurogenesis focuses on the dentate gyrus of the hippocampus, but I think along the lining of the ventricles has been shown as well. These are very localized effects, unlike synaptogensis, which is a brain wide phenomenon. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:895138307] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>3deep5u posted...</cite> <quote>Where does the neurogenesis take place?</quote> Primarily, research on adult neurogenesis focuses on the dentate gyrus of the hippocampus, but I think along the lining of the ventricles has been shown as well. These are very localized effects, unlike synaptogensis, which is a brain wide phenomenon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmonAmarth 01/30/18 8:36:24 PM #35:	Sami1000 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... Also, just a word of advice - don't ever get psychiatric med advice from people who aren't psychiatrists or at least medical professionals. The most common mistake people make is using the medication incorrectly and then telling everyone else how bad it was. Yeah, i agree. Never trust a person who has eaten said meds for years or decades. Trust some corporate shills, who read information from the back of the box. lol. kinda true. many mds so often just ignore the side effects or arent aware of them. they dont understand the actual feelings or "being in touch" with the patient. for example some of the sexual side effects. pssd (they be like wats that), or the fact that many ssris basically make you close to sterilized (maybe im using the wrong word but they go beyond just reducing libido) while talking them. --- i7-4790@ 3.6GHZ \| GA-Z97-HD3 \| ASUS GTX 960 2GB \| Samsung 850 EVO 250GB \| 1TB HDD \| CX750M \| 12GB DDR3 <cite>AmonAmarth posted [p:895138521] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>Also, just a word of advice - don't ever get psychiatric med advice from people who aren't psychiatrists or at least medical professionals. The most common mistake people make is using the medication incorrectly and then telling everyone else how bad it was.</quote> Yeah, i agree. Never trust a person who has eaten said meds for years or decades. Trust some corporate shills, who read information from the back of the box.</quote> lol. kinda true. many mds so often just ignore the side effects or arent aware of them. they dont understand the actual feelings or "being in touch" with the patient. for example some of the sexual side effects. pssd (they be like wats that), or the fact that many ssris basically make you close to sterilized (maybe im using the wrong word but they go beyond just reducing libido) while talking them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3deep5u 01/30/18 8:37:18 PM #36:	I got my wife pregnant while on 150 mg of Effexor --- 2deep4u 7deep9all <cite>3deep5u posted [p:895138574] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>I got my wife pregnant while on 150 mg of Effexor</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 01/30/18 8:37:37 PM #37:	Sami1000 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... Also, just a word of advice - don't ever get psychiatric med advice from people who aren't psychiatrists or at least medical professionals. The most common mistake people make is using the medication incorrectly and then telling everyone else how bad it was. Yeah, i agree. Never trust a person who has eaten said meds for years or decades. Trust some corporate shills, who read information from the back of the box. All I can say is this - you don't realize how little you know about something until you try to learn about it. Well, that and people who say they "eat" medications are kinda weird --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:895138606] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>Also, just a word of advice - don't ever get psychiatric med advice from people who aren't psychiatrists or at least medical professionals. The most common mistake people make is using the medication incorrectly and then telling everyone else how bad it was.</quote> Yeah, i agree. Never trust a person who has eaten said meds for years or decades. Trust some corporate shills, who read information from the back of the box.</quote> All I can say is this - you don't realize how little you know about something until you try to learn about it. Well, that and people who say they "eat" medications are kinda weird</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 01/30/18 8:39:02 PM #38:	Oh goodness, here come the psych peeps with their sage advice. Sorry, TC, I'm out. There are some battles not worth fighting. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:895138694] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>Oh goodness, here come the psych peeps with their sage advice. Sorry, TC, I'm out. There are some battles not worth fighting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmonAmarth 01/30/18 8:40:51 PM #39:	this study is "nice": Safarinejad (2008) examined 74 fertile, depressed men who had been taking a variety of SSRIs (citalopram, escitalopram, fluoxetine, paroxetine, or sertraline) for at least six months. Compared to control group of 44 healthy fertile men, those taking SSRIs had significantly lower sperm counts, significantly lower sperm motility, lower sperm density, higher DNA fragmentation, and poorer sperm morphology (i.e., more defective in terms of size and shape). Safarinejad found that the longer a man had been taking an SSRI, the more abnormal his semen parameters. Additionally, Safarinejad found that no one SSRI appeared to be more detrimental to semen parameters than another. Another research group (Tanrikut et al., 2010) examined only paroxetines effect on sperm. In their sample of 35 healthy male volunteers, exposure to paroxetine over the course of five weeks had marked effects on their sperms DNA integrity. While other parameters (count, motility, morphology) remained within normal limits, significant increases in DNA fragmentation were noted (13.8% to 30.3%). This is important to note given 30% is generally considered the threshold for infertility. The percentage of men with 30% or greater DNA fragmentation rose from 9.7% to 50% over the course of the five week study. Also reported by their subjects was worsened erectile function (35%) and ejaculatory function (47%) keeping popping those pills kids,mds especially in the US are overprescripting these pills to the point of insanity. men or woman comes with the big black business suitcase. hey md heres what he have to offer. --- i7-4790@ 3.6GHZ \| GA-Z97-HD3 \| ASUS GTX 960 2GB \| Samsung 850 EVO 250GB \| 1TB HDD \| CX750M \| 12GB DDR3 <cite>AmonAmarth posted [p:895138835] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>this study is "nice": <quote>Safarinejad (2008) examined 74 fertile, depressed men who had been taking a variety of SSRIs (citalopram, escitalopram, fluoxetine, paroxetine, or sertraline) for at least six months. Compared to control group of 44 healthy fertile men, those taking SSRIs had significantly lower sperm counts, significantly lower sperm motility, lower sperm density, higher DNA fragmentation, and poorer sperm morphology (i.e., more defective in terms of size and shape). Safarinejad found that the longer a man had been taking an SSRI, the more abnormal his semen parameters. Additionally, Safarinejad found that no one SSRI appeared to be more detrimental to semen parameters than another. Another research group (Tanrikut et al., 2010) examined only paroxetines effect on sperm. In their sample of 35 healthy male volunteers, exposure to paroxetine over the course of five weeks had marked effects on their sperms DNA integrity. While other parameters (count, motility, morphology) remained within normal limits, significant increases in DNA fragmentation were noted (13.8% to 30.3%). This is important to note given 30% is generally considered the threshold for infertility. The percentage of men with 30% or greater DNA fragmentation rose from 9.7% to 50% over the course of the five week study. Also reported by their subjects was worsened erectile function (35%) and ejaculatory function (47%)</quote> keeping popping those pills kids,mds especially in the US are overprescripting these pills to the point of insanity. men or woman comes with the big black business suitcase. hey md heres what he have to offer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3deep5u 01/30/18 8:41:31 PM #40:	^That's why I quit tbh --- 2deep4u 7deep9all <cite>3deep5u posted [p:895138878] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>^That's why I quit tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmonAmarth 01/30/18 8:45:43 PM #41:	a couple decades ago they said ssris cause 25% sexual libido, and related problems, then 50 percent now the numbers are at 70-90 (with clomipramine having 90%) rates of messing with you. --- i7-4790@ 3.6GHZ \| GA-Z97-HD3 \| ASUS GTX 960 2GB \| Samsung 850 EVO 250GB \| 1TB HDD \| CX750M \| 12GB DDR3 <cite>AmonAmarth posted [p:895139165] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>a couple decades ago they said ssris cause 25% sexual libido, and related problems, then 50 percent now the numbers are at 70-90 (with clomipramine having 90%) rates of messing with you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 01/30/18 8:46:11 PM #42:	men or woman comes with the big black business suitcase. hey md heres what he have to offer. I haven't prescribed a name-brand antidepressant in... well, ever. All the SSRIs and most of the SNRIs are generic. So the only black suitcases I see are ones I'm currently smashing my head on after reading your asinine comments. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:895139189] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>men or woman comes with the big black business suitcase. hey md heres what he have to offer. I haven't prescribed a name-brand antidepressant in... well, ever. All the SSRIs and most of the SNRIs are generic. So the only black suitcases I see are ones I'm currently smashing my head on after reading your asinine comments.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 01/30/18 8:47:33 PM #43:	AmonAmarth posted... a couple decades ago they said ssris cause 25% sexual libido, and related problems, then 50 percent now the numbers are at 70-90 (with clomipramine having 90%) rates of messing with you. Clomipramine is a tricyclic, not an SSRI, and it's not even prescribed for standard depression. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:895139266] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>AmonAmarth posted...</cite> <quote>a couple decades ago they said ssris cause 25% sexual libido, and related problems, then 50 percent now the numbers are at 70-90 (with clomipramine having 90%) rates of messing with you.</quote> Clomipramine is a tricyclic, not an SSRI, and it's not even prescribed for standard depression.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chill02 01/30/18 8:47:35 PM #44:	I'd be fucked without sertraline --- Ave, true to Caesar. <cite>chill02 posted [p:895139269] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>I'd be fucked without sertraline</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 01/30/18 8:48:03 PM #45:	They keep me from doing the worst, so yeah, they work like hell. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:895139302] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>They keep me from doing the worst, so yeah, they work like hell.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmonAmarth 01/30/18 8:48:37 PM #46:	Coffeebeanz posted... men or woman comes with the big black business suitcase. hey md heres what he have to offer. I haven't prescribed a name-brand antidepressant in... well, ever. All the SSRIs and most of the SNRIs are generic. So the only black suitcases I see are ones I'm currently smashing my head on after reading your asinine comments. you is one person. how about the thousands and thousands? who DO overprescribe. --- i7-4790@ 3.6GHZ \| GA-Z97-HD3 \| ASUS GTX 960 2GB \| Samsung 850 EVO 250GB \| 1TB HDD \| CX750M \| 12GB DDR3 <cite>AmonAmarth posted [p:895139332] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>men or woman comes with the big black business suitcase. hey md heres what he have to offer. I haven't prescribed a name-brand antidepressant in... well, ever. All the SSRIs and most of the SNRIs are generic. So the only black suitcases I see are ones I'm currently smashing my head on after reading your asinine comments.</quote> you is one person. how about the thousands and thousands? who DO overprescribe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 01/30/18 8:49:04 PM #47:	chill02 posted... I'd be fucked without sertraline I take a cocktail of Lexapro and Wellbutrin because my doctor says I have one of the most overactive brains and horrible depression that he has ever seen. I wouldnt know. I just know that it helps me enjoy things. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:895139366] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>chill02 posted...</cite> <quote>I'd be fucked without sertraline</quote> I take a cocktail of Lexapro and Wellbutrin because my doctor says I have one of the most overactive brains and horrible depression that he has ever seen. I wouldnt know. I just know that it helps me enjoy things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmonAmarth 01/30/18 8:49:04 PM #48:	Coffeebeanz posted... AmonAmarth posted... a couple decades ago they said ssris cause 25% sexual libido, and related problems, then 50 percent now the numbers are at 70-90 (with clomipramine having 90%) rates of messing with you. Clomipramine is a tricyclic, not an SSRI, and it's not even prescribed for standard depression. well aware of that. the point is that the numbers have gone up, even with SSRIs. plus ssris, snris and tricylics are given for tons of anxiety cases, its not just depression. --- i7-4790@ 3.6GHZ \| GA-Z97-HD3 \| ASUS GTX 960 2GB \| Samsung 850 EVO 250GB \| 1TB HDD \| CX750M \| 12GB DDR3 <cite>AmonAmarth posted [p:895139367] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AmonAmarth posted...</cite> <quote>a couple decades ago they said ssris cause 25% sexual libido, and related problems, then 50 percent now the numbers are at 70-90 (with clomipramine having 90%) rates of messing with you.</quote> Clomipramine is a tricyclic, not an SSRI, and it's not even prescribed for standard depression.</quote> well aware of that. the point is that the numbers have gone up, even with SSRIs. plus ssris, snris and tricylics are given for tons of anxiety cases, its not just depression.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 01/30/18 8:51:43 PM #49:	SNRIs aren't usually prescribed for anxiety considering their mechanism of action is to increase the neurotransmitter that causes anxiety (norepinephrine) Honestly, I don't think I've used duloxetine for anything other than neuropathic pain --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:895139540] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote>SNRIs aren't usually prescribed for anxiety considering their mechanism of action is to increase the neurotransmitter that causes anxiety (norepinephrine) Honestly, I don't think I've used duloxetine for anything other than neuropathic pain</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmonAmarth 01/30/18 8:55:18 PM #50:	Coffeebeanz posted... SNRIs aren't usually prescribed for anxiety considering their mechanism of action is to increase the neurotransmitter that causes anxiety (norepinephrine) Honestly, I don't think I've used duloxetine for anything other than neuropathic pain perhaps. i think effexor and cymbalta were some of the ones I tried (to augementation). but ive taken dozens of meds over my life time, and aside from helping panic disorder, did nothing for ocd, social phobia, and minimimal help for depression. (yep im just one person). regardless of dosage or time period.. so im not happy with them. i realize the meds help some people, but i still think too much given too easily to people in some areas. --- i7-4790@ 3.6GHZ \| GA-Z97-HD3 \| ASUS GTX 960 2GB \| Samsung 850 EVO 250GB \| 1TB HDD \| CX750M \| 12GB DDR3 <cite>AmonAmarth posted [p:895139776] in How are an... [t:76262933]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>SNRIs aren't usually prescribed for anxiety considering their mechanism of action is to increase the neurotransmitter that causes anxiety (norepinephrine) Honestly, I don't think I've used duloxetine for anything other than neuropathic pain</quote> perhaps. i think effexor and cymbalta were some of the ones I tried (to augementation). but ive taken dozens of meds over my life time, and aside from helping panic disorder, did nothing for ocd, social phobia, and minimimal help for depression. (yep im just one person). regardless of dosage or time period.. so im not happy with them. i realize the meds help some people, but i still think too much given too easily to people in some areas.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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