Current Events > When will white guys on the internet stop telling minorities/women how to feel

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about something offensive? Serious question
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When people stop telling them how to think and what to feel.

If the said white guys said the offensive statement, are they not entitled to defend and clarify it?
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Bro don't be so offended
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Maybe you should stop feeling butthurt

J/K

Real answer:

Never
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Never, probably.
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TIL a white guy can't be part of a minority group
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

When people stop telling them how to think and what to feel.

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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

When people stop telling them how to think and what to feel.

If the said white guys said the offensive statement, are they not entitled to defend and clarify it?

They can, but usually that "defense" involves them doubling down on the douchebaggery by saying some variation of "sensitive snowflake".
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

about something offensive? Serious question

Never.
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

. . . "sensitive snowflake".

Is this never the case? It's not like anyone has mentioned specifics yet.

Also, why should anyone care about offensiveness? That's your/their problem.
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Never. Hell, theres like 5 white people on my Facebook that like to tell black people how to feel about things every day. Shits beyond annoying.

All the years of telling white people they owe yall has really taken its toll. This is what you guys wanted, so as always, be careful what you wish for.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

. . . "sensitive snowflake".

Is this never the case? It's not like anyone has mentioned specifics yet.

Also, why should anyone care about offensiveness? That's your/their problem.

Inception post.
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It's good to know the opinion on whether something is offensive or not can only be expressed by minorities.

Interestingly, when white users here have had issues with white privilege generalizations veering into offensive stereotyping, TC has ridiculed them.
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if i didnt know any better

i would think you were an alt of me
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We need stop enabling them by agreeing with them. It makes us minorities look like soft bitches
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Also, why should anyone care about offensiveness? That's your/their problem.

I don't even think they're obligated to really care. It's moreso the complete inability to understand why somebody would take offense to something.

Like the best comedians always utilize offensive humor and they KNOW they're being offensive, which is why they typically don't go around arguing with people they may have offended. They let them feel how they want to feel without judgment (usually).

Then you've got guys that are "trying" to be funny saying something offensive, people get offended, and they act like something is wrong with the other guy for taking their offensive comment offensively.
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Here in California, its white liberals who tell me how to think and feel about everything.
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CrimsonRage posted...

it seems we have a chicken and egg thing going on here

Minorities have dominated the conversation, now that white people are getting back into it, many are engaging from a more clinical and more objective manor. This is why there is such a rift in the conversations leading to these problems. I don't want to get derailed on specifics but this is why many police shoot discussions get so toxic.
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Also, why should anyone care about offensiveness? That's your/their problem.

I don't even think they're obligated to really care. It's moreso the complete inability to understand why somebody would take offense to something.

Like the best comedians always utilize offensive humor and they KNOW they're being offensive, which is why they typically don't go around arguing with people they may have offended. They let them feel how they want to feel without judgment (usually).

Then you've got guys that are "trying" to be funny saying something offensive, people get offended, and they act like something is wrong with the other guy for taking their offensive comment offensively.

People got offended that the Raiders hired Jon Gruden before interviewing a minority candidate they had zero interest in.

Literally shouldn't be offensive.
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The Admiral posted...

It's good to know the opinion on whether something is offensive or not can only be expressed by minorities.

Your reading comprehension seems to be failing you Admiral, because I never said anything like this lmao.

If a White Irish man got offended at an offensive joke I made about Irish people, I wouldn't tell him how he should feel about it.
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

It's moreso the complete inability to understand why somebody would take offense to something.

Per your own example, the offender is trying to be funny, a failed comedian is no reason to cry.
This gets to the root of the issue, intent. If someone isn't intending to hurt your feelings, stop being a fucking snowflake. (And if they are, a little advice, don't give them the satisfaction of success.)
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The Admiral posted...

That's some La-Z-Boy style armchair debate there.

It's always about how y'all feel, but you never attempt to even understand how others feel. Didn't say agree. I said understand. Besides, shouldn't you be shoveling some more crimes statistics into another topic to tell minorities how to feel?
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

It's moreso the complete inability to understand why somebody would take offense to something.

Per your own example, the offender is trying to be funny, a failed comedian is no reason to cry.
This gets to the root of the issue, intent. If someone isn't intending to hurt your feelings, stop being a fucking snowflake. (And if they are, a little advice, don't give them the satisfaction of success.)

Can you read the fucking topic title and stop doing that?
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

The Admiral posted...

It's good to know the opinion on whether something is offensive or not can only be expressed by minorities.

Your reading comprehension seems to be failing you Admiral, because I never said anything like this lmao.

If a White Irish man got offended at an offensive joke I made about Irish people, I wouldn't tell him how he should feel about it.

If a white Irish guy has a hissy fit about the Notre Dame Fighting Irish mascot, and you say you think he's being silly, I think it's completely your right to say that.

This idea that opinions can't be expressed on certain general topics because of someone's race is absolutely racist. Your whole argument to excuse that point is based on "you can't understand muh feelings," ignoring that offensiveness is not purely subjective.
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

If a White Irish man got offended at an offensive joke I made about Irish people, I wouldn't tell him how he should feel about it.

Is this without limit? What happens when he tries getting you fired, rakes you over the coals on social media, slanders you, etc etc etc

Have you never accused anyone of overreacting? Are the arguments not the same?
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shockthemonkey posted...

So the answer to this topic is no, and theyll get offended that you even suggested it.

I wish this was fiction.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Stop telling minorities not to be offended

No, they should stop being offended. What if they get you fired and fuck your mother? Talk about overreacting!

lmao.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

If a White Irish man got offended at an offensive joke I made about Irish people, I wouldn't tell him how he should feel about it.

Is this without limit? What happens when he tries getting you fired, rakes you over the coals on social media, slanders you, etc etc etc

Have you never accused anyone of overreacting?

So. Listen. He's not saying that it isn't a possibility, but to assume that it's the default is the problem. It engenders a pattern of not listening and feeds the preconceived notion. By assuming that someone is credible before they discredit themselves, you have a limit that is already in place. Your ideations are based on extremes. There's clearly some nuance here. Stop hammering a square peg into a round hole.
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The Admiral posted...

This idea that opinions can't be expressed on certain general topics because of someone's race is absolutely racist.

You're not stating an "opinion" when you tell somebody that their reaction to your comment is invalid.
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Straight White men!!!

Boooga boooga booga!!!
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Prolly when the minorities stop crying over everything
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Asherlee10 posted...

All in all, I'm not sure I'm in favor of telling others how they SHOULD feel about something, instead just providing evidence or polite discussion in defense of the contrary to their belief. But again, that is just case-by-case. There is a time and place for everything.

Yeah, I'd like to think that manners would be there at most times and places.
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Kineth posted...

He's not saying that it isn't a possibility

This is basically all I wanted. This entire conversation depends on the context of any particular interaction.
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

The Admiral posted...

This idea that opinions can't be expressed on certain general topics because of someone's race is absolutely racist.

You're not stating an "opinion" when you call anybody that finds your offensive joke offensive a "sensitive snowflake" or when you tell them that what they feel is invalid.

Sure you are. You're arguing that a minority can make any outrageous claims at all about what should be considered offensive, and a white person should not be allowed to disagree. And they shouldn't be allowed to disagree purely based on their skin color, regardless of how crazy the minority's claims are.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Kineth posted...

He's not saying that it isn't a possibility

This is basically all I wanted. This entire conversation depends on the context of any particular interaction.

That's silly to have assumed of someone.
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The Admiral posted...

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

The Admiral posted...

This idea that opinions can't be expressed on certain general topics because of someone's race is absolutely racist.

You're not stating an "opinion" when you call anybody that finds your offensive joke offensive a "sensitive snowflake" or when you tell them that what they feel is invalid.

Sure you are. You're arguing that a minority can make any outrageous claims at all about what should be considered offensive, and a white person should not be allowed to disagree. And they shouldn't be allowed to disagree purely based on their skin color, regardless of how crazy the minority's claims are.

You could just ask the person why they feel that way and guide them out of their misguided nature. I don't know why you think there's no possible alternative ways of handling such a situation/conversation.
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Also white men cry about everything too.

Its the "waaaah era"
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Asherlee10 posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

Prolly when the minorities stop crying over everything

Favorite motto of yours? https://teespring.com/en-GB/shop/bully-humor#pid=2&cid=568&sid=front

No my mindset is...stop crying about every little thing
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Kineth posted...

The Admiral posted...

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

The Admiral posted...

This idea that opinions can't be expressed on certain general topics because of someone's race is absolutely racist.

You're not stating an "opinion" when you call anybody that finds your offensive joke offensive a "sensitive snowflake" or when you tell them that what they feel is invalid.

Sure you are. You're arguing that a minority can make any outrageous claims at all about what should be considered offensive, and a white person should not be allowed to disagree. And they shouldn't be allowed to disagree purely based on their skin color, regardless of how crazy the minority's claims are.

You could just ask the person why they feel that way and guide them out of their misguided nature. I don't know why you think there's no possible alternative ways of handling such a situation/conversation.

Let's play this out:

Admiral: "Minority, why are you so outraged about that white person wearing a sombrero on Cinco de Mayo?"

Minority: "It's racist cultural appropriation!!!"

What should be the next steps in this conversation? According to TC, it would be inappropriate of me to disagree. I'm not really seeing the argument for why I need to keep my mouth closed if someone else is being irrational and hysterical, purely because of my skin color.
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