Current Events > I don't get why liberals only count the United States when make terrorism stats

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Isn't that a case against refugees and Islamism?

By saying the United States has far, far less Islamic Attacks than the countries that take in a lot of refugees and harbor a lot of Muslim extremists, aren't they essentially making the case for "Drumpf" to not let the refugees in?

I don't get the liberal ideology in general, but it feels like it's become more of a parody of itself as the days go by.

Even Conan tweeted today that Haiti was a beautiful place. So now because Trump said Haiti was a poophole they are going to say that Haiti is paradise?

It's like everything they do or say is to try to narrative build in their head and none of their statements or ideas even make sense anymore.

Like some sort of mass cognitive dissonance among the mainstream left

when they make*, I ran out of characters

I have no idea what you're trying to say here. Liberals point out that the majority of terror attacks in America come from far right nationalist organizations.

And liberals are inclined to be compassionate towards other people far more than conservatives are, which is why they fight to bring in refugees and other immigrants. It isn't hard to understand. Just like it's not hard to understand how Conservatives feel the need to focus on our needs at home because that's important.

Neither is right or wrong.
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I'm saying how is it an argument for refugees by pointing out we don't have as many Islamic attacks as the rest of the world when we don't let them in lol

How many people did those supposed white supremacist attacks kill?

You guys realize how many people die per day from Islamic Terrorism?

Have fun:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_January_2018

In the past two days alone, more than 80 people were killed by the Taliban

I don't see anyone making that argument. And we let all kinds of people in all the time so idk what your point is.
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Milkman5 posted...

I'm saying how is it an argument for refugees by pointing out we don't have as many Islamic attacks as the rest of the world when we don't let them in lol

But we do let them in.
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Taliban =\= all Muslims
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nicklebro posted...

I don't see anyone making that argument. And we let all kinds of people in all the time so idk what your point is.

Not really, no we don't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War

Turkey 3,381,005 (registered December 2017)[3]
Lebanon 2.2 million (estimated arrivals as of December 2015)
1,001,051 (registered)[4]
Jordan 1,265,000 (census results as of November 2015)[5]
661,114 (registered July 2017)[6]
Germany 600,000 (2014 to late 2016)[7]
429,000 (registered by late 2016)
456,023 (applicants by February 2016)
Saudi Arabia 500,000-2,500,000 (estimated overstays as of 2016)[8][9][10][11]
United Arab Emirates 242,000 (estimated overstays as of 2015)[12][13]
Iraq (incl. Iraqi Kurdistan) 230,836 (registered)[14]
Kuwait 155,000+[8][15] (estimated overstays to June 2015)
Egypt 117,702 (registered by March 2016)
124,534 (UNHCR estimate as of September 2017)[16]
500,000 (Egypt MFA estimate as of September 2016)
Sweden 110,333 (applicants to December 2015)[17]
Yemen 100,000 (2015)[18]
Hungary

72,505 (applicants to December 2015)[17]
Canada 62,000+ (applicants to Feb 2017)
43,000+ (approved as of Feb 2017)
40,081 (resettled as of Feb 2017)[19][20]
Croatia 55,000 (estimated as of September 2015)[21]
386 (applicants to December 2015)[17]
Greece 54,574 (estimated in country May 2016)[22]

5,615 (applicants to December 2015)[17]
Qatar 54,000 (estimated overstays 2017)[8][23]
42 (registered)[8]
Austria 45,827 (applicants to April 2017)[17]
Algeria 43,000 (estimated as of November 2015)
5,721 (registered as of November 2015)[24]
Netherlands 31,963 (applicants to July 2016)[17]
Libya 26,672 (registered as of December 2015)[25]
Armenia 20,000 (estimated as of October 2016)[26]
Denmark 19,433 (applicants to December 2015)[17]
Bulgaria 17,527 (applicants to December 2015)[17]
United States 16,218 (resettled by November 2016)[27]
Belgium 16,986 (applicants to July 2016)[17]
Norway 13,993 (applicants to December 2015)[17]
Singapore 13,856 (applicants to December 2015)[17]
Switzerland 12,931 (applicants to July 2016)[17]
Serbia (incl. Kosovo) 11,831 (applicants to February 2016)[17]
France 11,694 (applicants to July 2016)[17]
United Kingdom 9,467 (applicants to July 2016)[17]
5,102 (resettled as of August 2015)[28]
Brazil 9,000 (approved)[29]
2,097 (as of November 2015)[30]
Spain 8,365 (applicants to December 2015)[17]
Russia 7,096 (overstays in residence to April 2016)[31]
Australia 6,000 (resettled to Jan 2017)[32]
Malaysia 5,000 (estimated in August 2015)[citation needed]
1,980 (registered to May 2017)
Tunisia 4,000 (September 2015)[33]
Cyprus 3,527 (applicants to December 2015)[17]
Bahrain 3,500 (estimated June 2015)[8]
Argentina 3,000 (approved)[34]
Montenegro 2,975 (applicants to December 2015)[17]
Italy 2,538 (applicants to December 2015)[17]
Romania 2,525 (applicants to December 2015)[17]
Macedonia 2,150 (applicants to December 2015)[17]
Malta 1,222 (applicants to December 2015)[17]
Somalia 1,312 (as of January 2016)
Finland 1,127 (as of December 2015)[17]

Ryangrad posted...

Milkman5 posted...

I'm saying how is it an argument for refugees by pointing out we don't have as many Islamic attacks as the rest of the world when we don't let them in lol

But we do let them in.

Not really. We only take in a small amount every year and they are heavily vetted

I only trust shit off wikipedia so that might explain why I'm no longer liberal lol

for better or for worse since I know many question the credibility of wikipedia

So you're counting just Syrian refugees that have applied to move into another country? And also pointing out that the taliban has killed 80 people? Lol why are you bringing up murders by people who aren't refugees as an argument for not bringing in refugees?

Why would refugees be more likely to commit acts of terror than anyone else? You do realize that the argument is terrorists would pose as refugees to get into America right?

And people come here temporarily all the time. Literally every day. And still we have more homegrown terrorists than immigrants or refugees.
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Milkman5 posted...

Not really. We only take in a small amount every year and they are heavily vetted

You said we don't take them in, not we take in less than other countries. But even still, it stands to reason we taken in fewer, because we are much farther away, and unlike say Canada, for instance, we don't make it a major priority to bring them in. You'll notice that refugees tend to flee to nations closer to them, for the most part.
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nicklebro posted...

So you're counting just Syrian refugees that have applied to move into another country? And also pointing out that the taliban has killed 80 people? Lol why are you bringing up murders by people who aren't refugees as an argument for not bringing in refugees?

Why would refugees be more likely to commit acts of terror than anyone else? You do realize that the argument is terrorists would pose as refugees to get into America right?

And people come here temporarily all the time. Literally every day. And still we have more homegrown terrorists than immigrants or refugees.

We don't take in Afghan Refugees

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_refugees#International_aid

Afghan Refugees:

Pakistan Pakistan 3,100,000 [41] 1,300,000 - 2,500,000 [11][12][A 1]
Iran Iran 3,100,000 [41] 951,142 - 2,400,000 [36][42][43][44]
United Arab Emirates UAE 300,000 [45] [A 2]
Germany Germany 126,334 [46] [A 3]
United Kingdom United Kingdom 56,000 [47] [A 4]
Netherlands the Netherlands 44,000 [48]
Austria Austria 20,349 [49]
Denmark Denmark 15,854 [50] [A 5]
India India 18,000 [51] [A 6]
Sweden Sweden 6,904 [52] [A 7]
Tajikistan Tajikistan 1161 [53] 15,336 [53] 3,427 [53] [A 8]
Qatar Qatar 3,500 [54]
Syria Syria 1,750 [55] [A 9]
Turkey Turkey 4,150 [56] [A 10]

I only mentioned Syria because that was the most refugees we took from the middle east. We don't really accept refugees from the middle east. Especially with "Drumpf"

So that's why I didn't mention Afghani Refugees even though I mentioned the Taliban attacks in Afghanistan

Again, what's your point?
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nicklebro posted...

And still we have more homegrown terrorists than immigrants or refugees.

According to Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#2010%E2%80%93present

There were 4 terrorist attacks this year. 2 people were killed by "White Supremacists" and 8 were killed by ISIS

The majority were still killed by Islamists and even then, 10 people dead from Terrorism this year in America is an amazing stat compared to the rest of the world considering the target on our back.

I realize I'm citing Wikipedia though and not MSNBC or Salon or whatever garbage site leftists get their information from lol