Current Events > between ce's racism and misogyny, which is the stronger force

Topic List	Page List: 1, 2
darkjedilink 01/18/18 12:17:48 PM #52:	FrisbeeDude posted... RebelElite791 posted... We have some legit white supremacists and Nazi sympathizers posting here so that. Well, yeah, I mean, if we choose to define 'white supremacist' as 'looked at the facts of everything BLM protests, and realizing 90% of them are bullshit,' and 'Nazi sympathizer' as 'doesn't think punching people in public merely for speaking,' there's a few. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894299478] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>We have some legit white supremacists and Nazi sympathizers posting here so that.</quote></quote> Well, yeah, I mean, if we choose to define 'white supremacist' as 'looked at the facts of everything BLM protests, and realizing 90% of them are bullshit,' and 'Nazi sympathizer' as 'doesn't think punching people in public merely for speaking,' there's a few.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pitlord_Special 01/18/18 12:19:19 PM #53:	MisogynyFAQs by a country mile <cite>Pitlord_Special posted [p:894299558] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote>MisogynyFAQs by a country mile</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/18/18 12:21:03 PM #54:	Asherlee10 posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... Darkman124 posted... o ya baby choice quote: Why would I want to talk to women I don't intend to have sex with? To hear their well reasoned thoughts on the European debt crisis? Is that automatically misogyny, though? I believe there has to be an element of hatred or mistrust of the gender, for it to be so. It could be simple apathy towards women that dont meet their sexual preference. Wiki has a good summary of misogyny that shines a light on how that statement is misogynistic. Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. Misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including social exclusion, sex discrimination, hostility, androcentrism, patriarchy, male privilege, belittling of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification. By that definition, calling a woman 'stupid' is misogyny, regardless of context. The statement in question, though, is extremely misogynistic. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894299653] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>o ya baby choice quote: <quote>Why would I want to talk to women I don't intend to have sex with? To hear their well reasoned thoughts on the European debt crisis?</quote></quote> Is that automatically misogyny, though? I believe there has to be an element of hatred or mistrust of the gender, for it to be so. It could be simple apathy towards women that dont meet their sexual preference.</quote> Wiki has a good summary of misogyny that shines a light on how that statement is misogynistic. <quote>Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. Misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including social exclusion, sex discrimination, hostility, androcentrism, patriarchy, male privilege, belittling of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification.</quote></quote> By that definition, calling a woman 'stupid' is misogyny, regardless of context. The statement in question, though, is extremely misogynistic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 01/18/18 12:21:55 PM #55:	Misogyny is displayed way more flagrantly and with a lot more unapologetic attitude. There are legitimate racists too, but I think most of them could be categorized as misguided dumb people or trolls --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:894299705] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote>Misogyny is displayed way more flagrantly and with a lot more unapologetic attitude. There are legitimate racists too, but I think most of them could be categorized as misguided dumb people or trolls</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 01/18/18 12:22:47 PM #56:	It's a pretty tired and boring attitude to be so tunneled on racism and misogyny to have to be this explicit, almost pastiche like hatred and excuse/exclude all the other subtle manifestations. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:894299765] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote>It's a pretty tired and boring attitude to be so tunneled on racism and misogyny to have to be this explicit, almost pastiche like hatred and excuse/exclude all the other subtle manifestations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 01/18/18 12:24:20 PM #57:	You're all biting pretty hard on a bait topic you know --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW_V1kG6mRc <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:894299868] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote>You're all biting pretty hard on a bait topic you know</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EbonTitanium 01/18/18 12:25:22 PM #58:	Asherlee10 posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... Darkman124 posted... o ya baby choice quote: Why would I want to talk to women I don't intend to have sex with? To hear their well reasoned thoughts on the European debt crisis? Is that automatically misogyny, though? I believe there has to be an element of hatred or mistrust of the gender, for it to be so. It could be simple apathy towards women that dont meet their sexual preference. Wiki has a good summary of misogyny that shines a light on how that statement is misogynistic. Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. Misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including social exclusion, sex discrimination, hostility, androcentrism, patriarchy, male privilege, belittling of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification. I wouldn't try to use this as a definition. --- I don't know which is worse: fanboys or elitist. <cite>EbonTitanium posted [p:894299940] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>o ya baby choice quote: <quote>Why would I want to talk to women I don't intend to have sex with? To hear their well reasoned thoughts on the European debt crisis?</quote></quote> Is that automatically misogyny, though? I believe there has to be an element of hatred or mistrust of the gender, for it to be so. It could be simple apathy towards women that dont meet their sexual preference.</quote> Wiki has a good summary of misogyny that shines a light on how that statement is misogynistic. <quote>Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. Misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including social exclusion, sex discrimination, hostility, androcentrism, patriarchy, male privilege, belittling of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification.</quote></quote> I wouldn't try to use this as a definition.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 01/18/18 12:32:16 PM #59:	now do we count people who use the term SJW seriously as both sexist or racist? or do we judge that by a case by case basis because sometimes anti SJWs are just homophobic --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:894300380] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote>now do we count people who use the term SJW seriously as both sexist or racist? or do we judge that by a case by case basis because sometimes anti SJWs are just homophobic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sami1000 01/18/18 12:33:55 PM #60:	Obesity >misogyny > racism --- Can't think any good sig <cite>Sami1000 posted [p:894300489] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote>Obesity >misogyny > racism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JustMonika 01/18/18 12:34:40 PM #61:	The Strike Force. --- https://i.imgtc.com/qJzeN65.png <cite>JustMonika posted [p:894300536] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote>The Strike Force.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 01/18/18 12:41:25 PM #63:	Asherlee10 posted... Wiki has a good summary of misogyny that shines a light on how that statement is misogynistic. Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. Misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including social exclusion, sex discrimination, hostility, androcentrism, patriarchy, male privilege, belittling of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification. Oh, I just used the simple dictionary definition. The Wiki one is fine, and I can concede that the quote is hostile towards women, or at least the ones that do not interest that person. What I find interesting about the Wiki examples is that some are clear indicators, while at least a few are sketchy. Androcentrism? Yes, I am male, so my behavior or instincts will be largely masculine, if for no other reason than having higher levels of testosterone. Male privilege? Does this mean exhibiting or practicing any positive male traits such as increased physical strength is seen as misogynistic? I feel the sexual objectification one is used too freely lately. Expressing physical attraction in women, especially by pointing out exactly what men like, seems to be demonized more and more lately. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:894300945] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>Wiki has a good summary of misogyny that shines a light on how that statement is misogynistic. <quote>Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. Misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including social exclusion, sex discrimination, hostility, androcentrism, patriarchy, male privilege, belittling of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification.</quote></quote> Oh, I just used the simple dictionary definition. The Wiki one is fine, and I can concede that the quote is hostile towards women, or at least the ones that do not interest that person. What I find interesting about the Wiki examples is that some are clear indicators, while at least a few are sketchy. Androcentrism? Yes, I am male, so my behavior or instincts will be largely masculine, if for no other reason than having higher levels of testosterone. Male privilege? Does this mean exhibiting or practicing any positive male traits such as increased physical strength is seen as misogynistic? I feel the sexual objectification one is used too freely lately. Expressing physical attraction in women, especially by pointing out exactly what men like, seems to be demonized more and more lately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
#64	Post #64 was unavailable or deleted.
#65	Post #65 was unavailable or deleted.
scar the 1 01/18/18 1:07:25 PM #66:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... Does this mean exhibiting or practicing any positive male traits such as increased physical strength is seen as misogynistic? No --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:894302539] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Does this mean exhibiting or practicing any positive male traits such as increased physical strength is seen as misogynistic?</quote> No</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/18/18 1:13:34 PM #67:	Asherlee10 posted... darkjedilink posted... Asherlee10 posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... Darkman124 posted... o ya baby choice quote: Why would I want to talk to women I don't intend to have sex with? To hear their well reasoned thoughts on the European debt crisis? Is that automatically misogyny, though? I believe there has to be an element of hatred or mistrust of the gender, for it to be so. It could be simple apathy towards women that dont meet their sexual preference. Wiki has a good summary of misogyny that shines a light on how that statement is misogynistic. Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. Misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including social exclusion, sex discrimination, hostility, androcentrism, patriarchy, male privilege, belittling of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification. By that definition, calling a woman 'stupid' is misogyny, regardless of context. The statement in question, though, is extremely misogynistic. I don't think the wiki suggests that context should be excluded. If you call a woman stupid because she is a woman, then it's misogynistic. True, but that's not what it said. It said 'belittling a woman' is misogyny, not 'belittling a woman because she's a woman.' --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894302891] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>o ya baby choice quote: <quote>Why would I want to talk to women I don't intend to have sex with? To hear their well reasoned thoughts on the European debt crisis?</quote></quote> Is that automatically misogyny, though? I believe there has to be an element of hatred or mistrust of the gender, for it to be so. It could be simple apathy towards women that dont meet their sexual preference.</quote> Wiki has a good summary of misogyny that shines a light on how that statement is misogynistic. <quote>Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. Misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including social exclusion, sex discrimination, hostility, androcentrism, patriarchy, male privilege, belittling of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification.</quote></quote> By that definition, calling a woman 'stupid' is misogyny, regardless of context. The statement in question, though, is extremely misogynistic.</quote> I don't think the wiki suggests that context should be excluded. If you call a woman stupid because she is a woman, then it's misogynistic.</quote> True, but that's not what it said. It said 'belittling a woman' is misogyny, not 'belittling a woman because she's a woman.'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AverageCEgal 01/18/18 1:15:21 PM #68:	Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls os what ist says ok so like it can be shown different ways you don't just think a model doing a bikini is sexy and then you say you hate women cause that's dumb you take context into account <cite>AverageCEgal posted [p:894303004] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote>Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls os what ist says ok so like it can be shown different ways you don't just think a model doing a bikini is sexy and then you say you hate women cause that's dumb you take context into account</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sylverlolol 01/18/18 1:21:05 PM #69:	Misogyny is more widespread but neither are as prevalent as folks like rebel would have you believe. Most people on this board are pretty chill. --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. <cite>sylverlolol posted [p:894303355] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote>Misogyny is more widespread but neither are as prevalent as folks like rebel would have you believe. Most people on this board are pretty chill.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EbonTitanium 01/18/18 1:33:39 PM #70:	Asherlee10 posted... EbonTitanium posted... Asherlee10 posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... Darkman124 posted... o ya baby choice quote: Why would I want to talk to women I don't intend to have sex with? To hear their well reasoned thoughts on the European debt crisis? Is that automatically misogyny, though? I believe there has to be an element of hatred or mistrust of the gender, for it to be so. It could be simple apathy towards women that dont meet their sexual preference. Wiki has a good summary of misogyny that shines a light on how that statement is misogynistic. Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. Misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including social exclusion, sex discrimination, hostility, androcentrism, patriarchy, male privilege, belittling of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification. I wouldn't try to use this as a definition. Open to hearing why the wikipedia entry is not accurate. It's vague. Sexual objectification is probably the most vague. The "patriarchy" doesn't exist, neither does "male privilege". --- I don't know which is worse: fanboys or elitist. <cite>EbonTitanium posted [p:894304213] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EbonTitanium posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>o ya baby choice quote: <quote>Why would I want to talk to women I don't intend to have sex with? To hear their well reasoned thoughts on the European debt crisis?</quote></quote> Is that automatically misogyny, though? I believe there has to be an element of hatred or mistrust of the gender, for it to be so. It could be simple apathy towards women that dont meet their sexual preference.</quote> Wiki has a good summary of misogyny that shines a light on how that statement is misogynistic. <quote>Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. Misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including social exclusion, sex discrimination, hostility, androcentrism, patriarchy, male privilege, belittling of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification.</quote></quote> I wouldn't try to use this as a definition.</quote> Open to hearing why the wikipedia entry is not accurate.</quote> It's vague. Sexual objectification is probably the most vague. The "patriarchy" doesn't exist, neither does "male privilege".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 01/18/18 1:38:34 PM #71:	darkjedilink posted... True, but that's not what it said. It said 'belittling a woman' is misogyny, not 'belittling a woman because she's a woman.' If you can't make a case without intentionally misinterpreting a short summary of a text and ignoring the context, then maybe you shouldn't --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:894304520] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>True, but that's not what it said. It said 'belittling a woman' is misogyny, not 'belittling a woman because she's a woman.'</quote> If you can't make a case without intentionally misinterpreting a short summary of a text and ignoring the context, then maybe you shouldn't</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Teddytalks 01/18/18 1:50:25 PM #72:	Not all misogynists in this board are racists, but nearly all the racists are misogynists as well. They just seem to hate women a little bit less than they hate minorities, probably because they regard both as inferior and has wronged then somehow, so I will go with misogony. <cite>Teddytalks posted [p:894305268] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote>Not all misogynists in this board are racists, but nearly all the racists are misogynists as well. They just seem to hate women a little bit less than they hate minorities, probably because they regard both as inferior and has wronged then somehow, so I will go with misogony.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
#73	Post #73 was unavailable or deleted.
#74	Post #74 was unavailable or deleted.
darkjedilink 01/18/18 2:48:18 PM #75:	Asherlee10 posted... darkjedilink posted... True, but that's not what it said. It said 'belittling a woman' is misogyny, not 'belittling a woman because she's a woman.' I think post #71 answered this well. The wiki is about misogyny. I don't think it's a large leap to know that when 'belittling women' is referenced it is in terms of misogynistic behavior. You'd be right, if real-world examples of exactly what I'm talking about didn't exist. Literally every complaint about Hillary Clinton since she was elected to the Senate have been framed as misogynistic. Women don't get nominated for awards? Misogyny. Counter the '1 in 5 women are raped' statistic? Misogyny. Be against #MeToo before Ansari? Misogyny. Context clearly doesn't matter. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894309131] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>True, but that's not what it said. It said 'belittling a woman' is misogyny, not 'belittling a woman because she's a woman.'</quote> I think post #71 answered this well. The wiki is about misogyny. I don't think it's a large leap to know that when 'belittling women' is referenced it is in terms of misogynistic behavior.</quote> You'd be right, if real-world examples of exactly what I'm talking about didn't exist. Literally every complaint about Hillary Clinton since she was elected to the Senate have been framed as misogynistic. Women don't get nominated for awards? Misogyny. Counter the '1 in 5 women are raped' statistic? Misogyny. Be against #MeToo before Ansari? Misogyny. Context clearly doesn't matter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 01/18/18 2:48:59 PM #76:	Darkman124 posted... ilovu posted... algermas god that guy i didnt believe he was for real until i found his reddit acct Yeah, he said some really despicable things about women here. I can only imagine what his Reddit posts are like. Does he even still post here anymore? --- http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:894309182] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ilovu posted...</cite> <quote>algermas </quote> god that guy i didnt believe he was for real until i found his reddit acct</quote> Yeah, he said some really despicable things about women here. I can only imagine what his Reddit posts are like. Does he even still post here anymore?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 01/18/18 2:54:56 PM #77:	Annihilated posted... RebelElite791 posted... We have some legit white supremacists and Nazi sympathizers posting here so that. I guess 0 technically qualifies as "some" in liberal logic. No, there are--or at least, were--actual White nationalists and supremacists posing here. DW7stillrules has admitted to being one and had defended Stormfront on several occasions. --- http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:894309610] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Annihilated posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>We have some legit white supremacists and Nazi sympathizers posting here so that.</quote> I guess 0 technically qualifies as "some" in liberal logic.</quote> No, there are--or at least, were--actual White nationalists and supremacists posing here. DW7stillrules has admitted to being one and had defended Stormfront on several occasions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 01/18/18 3:00:02 PM #78:	Theyre both prevalent here, but Id pick misogyny <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:894309940] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote>Theyre both prevalent here, but Id pick misogyny</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 01/18/18 3:00:46 PM #79:	Solar_Crimson posted... Annihilated posted... RebelElite791 posted... We have some legit white supremacists and Nazi sympathizers posting here so that. I guess 0 technically qualifies as "some" in liberal logic. No, there are--or at least, were--actual White nationalists and supremacists posing here. DW7stillrules has admitted to being one and had defended Stormfront on several occasions. Literally was a user on here saying ctown on Reddit was not racist <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:894310004] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Annihilated posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>We have some legit white supremacists and Nazi sympathizers posting here so that.</quote> I guess 0 technically qualifies as "some" in liberal logic.</quote> No, there are--or at least, were--actual White nationalists and supremacists posing here. DW7stillrules has admitted to being one and had defended Stormfront on several occasions.</quote> Literally was a user on here saying ctown on Reddit was not racist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
#80	Post #80 was unavailable or deleted.
BringThemToHeel 01/18/18 3:21:56 PM #81:	Misandry <cite>BringThemToHeel posted [p:894311343] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote>Misandry</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssj3vegeta_ 01/20/18 1:21:09 AM #82:	Asherlee10 posted... Zodd3224 posted... He actually treats women he interacts with on the board better than 90% of the guys on here. That's true. Thank you. --- http://i.imgur.com/P88EYmN.gif http://i.imgur.com/qxu2L01.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1kMCL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mvXIh0Q.jpg <cite>ssj3vegeta_ posted [p:894411804] in between ce... [t:76215226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>He actually treats women he interacts with on the board better than 90% of the guys on here.</quote> That's true.</quote> Thank you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List	Page List: 1, 2

Current Events > between ce's racism and misogyny, which is the stronger force (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > between ce's racism and misogyny, which is the stronger force