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Antifar
01/16/18 3:03:06 PM
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Darklit_Minuet
01/16/18 3:03:40 PM
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Still haven't fixed analog positions lol

Humans don't have asymmetrical hands, wtf is with the analogs being asymmetrical
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WaffIeElite
01/16/18 3:06:05 PM
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Still not a keyboard and mouse.
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Antifar
01/16/18 3:06:05 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
Humans don't have asymmetrical hands, wtf is with the analogs being asymmetrical

Face buttons are more important than the D-pad (and left analog is more important than right) and positioned accordingly
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SwayM
01/16/18 3:09:42 PM
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Antifar posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Humans don't have asymmetrical hands, wtf is with the analogs being asymmetrical

Face buttons are more important than the D-pad (and left analog is more important than right) and positioned accordingly


Seriously.

The placement of the sticks is probably the worst thing about the PlayStation controller.
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Tmk
01/16/18 3:09:49 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
Still haven't fixed analog positions lol

Humans don't have asymmetrical hands, wtf is with the analogs being asymmetrical

Honestly I think the problem is that Sony made the best designed controller and the other companies have just been trying to make one as close to it without being sued as possible. Or in Nintendo's case, doing that half the time, the other half sticking crayons up their nose.

Like, if you look at the GameCube controller, it's basically trying to be a PS controller without being sued. I actually liked having different sized face buttons, but it had the flaw of missing two whole buttons and having the sticks asymmetrical, and that dinky little d-pad...

Fast forward to the pro controller, and it's...okay. Between it and Microsoft's controllers, there's not huge deviations...but they're just inferior in terms of layout/use of space but I'm not sure they could get away with addressing that without just looking like a dualshock ripoff.

I do hate that the pro's right stick is above the face buttons though, because some games, with a run button, you might want to run and move the camera as you run. It's not too awkward to do that by using your pointer/index finger to hold the run button, and keep moving the right stick to look around with your thumb. By having the right stick above the face buttons, you can't do that. You'd have to manipulate the stick with pointer/index finger instead, which is just not going to have the same level of control and comfort. I've actually been trying to think of like, one advantage to the right stick position, and came up with nadda.

I just wish I could play everything with a PS controller at this point. It's got everything needed, it doesn't waste space, everything is pretty much optimally where it should be.
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Darklit_Minuet
01/16/18 3:14:26 PM
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SwayM posted...
Antifar posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Humans don't have asymmetrical hands, wtf is with the analogs being asymmetrical

Face buttons are more important than the D-pad (and left analog is more important than right) and positioned accordingly


Seriously.

The placement of the sticks is probably the worst thing about the PlayStation controller.

So if the worst thing about the PS controller is better than the xbox controller, why would anyone use an xbox controller?
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s0nicfan
01/16/18 3:15:07 PM
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Looks good. Still $100 too expensive.
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DarthAragorn
01/16/18 3:15:51 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
SwayM posted...
Antifar posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Humans don't have asymmetrical hands, wtf is with the analogs being asymmetrical

Face buttons are more important than the D-pad (and left analog is more important than right) and positioned accordingly


Seriously.

The placement of the sticks is probably the worst thing about the PlayStation controller.

So if the worst thing about the PS controller is better than the xbox controller, why would anyone use an xbox controller?

Because it's not better
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Shmashed
01/16/18 3:17:00 PM
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SwayM posted...
Antifar posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Humans don't have asymmetrical hands, wtf is with the analogs being asymmetrical

Face buttons are more important than the D-pad (and left analog is more important than right) and positioned accordingly


Seriously.

The placement of the sticks is probably the worst thing about the PlayStation controller.


This. My hands lay much more naturally on the xbox controller.
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Funkydog
01/16/18 3:17:31 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
Still haven't fixed analog positions lol

Humans don't have asymmetrical hands, wtf is with the analogs being asymmetrical

What.

That is the best thing about it. The ps placement is awful and uncomfortable
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soulunison2
01/16/18 3:17:53 PM
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Shmashed posted...
SwayM posted...
Antifar posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Humans don't have asymmetrical hands, wtf is with the analogs being asymmetrical

Face buttons are more important than the D-pad (and left analog is more important than right) and positioned accordingly


Seriously.

The placement of the sticks is probably the worst thing about the PlayStation controller.


This. My hands lay much more naturally on the xbox controller.


I cant play some games on the ps controller cuz my thumbs meet at the center :(
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Antifar
01/16/18 3:17:58 PM
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The Xbox One's rumble triggers are a must for racing games IMO
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ForestLogic
01/16/18 3:18:40 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Looks good. Still $100 too expensive.


This. Can't imagine how anyone can bring themselves to spend over $100 on a controller. I fucking bit my lip when I paid $80 for Switch joy-cons but at least you're getting two of them technically. Vanilla XBone controller is good enough.
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Darklit_Minuet
01/16/18 3:18:45 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
Shmashed posted...
SwayM posted...
Antifar posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Humans don't have asymmetrical hands, wtf is with the analogs being asymmetrical

Face buttons are more important than the D-pad (and left analog is more important than right) and positioned accordingly


Seriously.

The placement of the sticks is probably the worst thing about the PlayStation controller.


This. My hands lay much more naturally on the xbox controller.


I cant play some games on the ps controller cuz my thumbs meet at the center :(

There's no reason to ever use both analogs at once, why would your thumbs meet in the middle?
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Funkydog
01/16/18 3:19:39 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
There's no reason to ever use both analogs at once, why would your thumbs meet in the middle?

What games do you play? >.>
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s0nicfan
01/16/18 3:20:16 PM
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Tmk posted...
Honestly I think the problem is that Sony made the best designed controller and the other companies have just been trying to make one as close to it without being sued as possible. Or in Nintendo's case, doing that half the time, the other half sticking crayons up their nose.


Sony's D-pad is hot garbage.

Also, bringing up lawsuits is ironic given that Sony has been sued, and lost, TWICE over design theft of their controllers.
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TheMarthKoopa
01/16/18 3:20:51 PM
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Year 2018 and both sticks still aren't up top

wtf
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Corrupt_Power
01/16/18 3:21:34 PM
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Literally the only people who prefer the Dualshock controller layout to the Xbox layout are people who grew up only playing Sony consoles. The Xbox layout is factually more ergonomic and better-designed.
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Darklit_Minuet
01/16/18 3:21:41 PM
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Funkydog posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
There's no reason to ever use both analogs at once, why would your thumbs meet in the middle?

What games do you play? >.>

Weaboo crap. None of it ever uses the second analog
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DarthAragorn
01/16/18 3:21:53 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Shmashed posted...
SwayM posted...
Antifar posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Humans don't have asymmetrical hands, wtf is with the analogs being asymmetrical

Face buttons are more important than the D-pad (and left analog is more important than right) and positioned accordingly


Seriously.

The placement of the sticks is probably the worst thing about the PlayStation controller.


This. My hands lay much more naturally on the xbox controller.


I cant play some games on the ps controller cuz my thumbs meet at the center :(

There's no reason to ever use both analogs at once, why would your thumbs meet in the middle?

holy shit lmao thats so wrong
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soulunison2
01/16/18 3:22:01 PM
#23:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Shmashed posted...
SwayM posted...
Antifar posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Humans don't have asymmetrical hands, wtf is with the analogs being asymmetrical

Face buttons are more important than the D-pad (and left analog is more important than right) and positioned accordingly


Seriously.

The placement of the sticks is probably the worst thing about the PlayStation controller.


This. My hands lay much more naturally on the xbox controller.


I cant play some games on the ps controller cuz my thumbs meet at the center :(

There's no reason to ever use both analogs at once, why would your thumbs meet in the middle?


FPS, TPS, twin stick shooters etc
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Darklit_Minuet
01/16/18 3:22:41 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Shmashed posted...
SwayM posted...
Antifar posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Humans don't have asymmetrical hands, wtf is with the analogs being asymmetrical

Face buttons are more important than the D-pad (and left analog is more important than right) and positioned accordingly


Seriously.

The placement of the sticks is probably the worst thing about the PlayStation controller.


This. My hands lay much more naturally on the xbox controller.


I cant play some games on the ps controller cuz my thumbs meet at the center :(

There's no reason to ever use both analogs at once, why would your thumbs meet in the middle?


FPS, TPS, twin stick shooters etc

Yeah I don't play that pew pew crap
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Tmk
01/16/18 3:22:58 PM
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I've never remotely found a PS controller uncomfortable. Even when I had been playing for 10+ hours straight. >_> For several days.
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Romulox28
01/16/18 3:23:40 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
There's no reason to ever use both analogs at once, why would your thumbs meet in the middle?

have you ever played a 3D game before
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Darklit_Minuet
01/16/18 3:24:52 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
There's no reason to ever use both analogs at once, why would your thumbs meet in the middle?

have you ever played a 3D game before

Yep. L/R controlling the map is way more comfortable since I don't have to take my thumb off the face buttons
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Antifar
01/16/18 3:24:52 PM
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I found PS3 controllers awkward, partly because of the left stick placement, and partly because of the convex tops to the sticks. I found myself using index and thumb for the left stick, which made L1 and L2 uncomfortable to reach at the same time.

I've heard PS4 controllers are better, though.
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Tmk
01/16/18 3:28:16 PM
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Not to say I really have a big problem with the Xbox controller (well I did the very original one on the original console >_>).

I mean it's basically just a bigger curvier PS controller with the left stick and pad swapped. While I prefer symmetry with the sticks, it's not really inhibiting like the pro's nonsense with the right stick placement and I spent plenty of time with a Gamecube controller just fine which shared the pad/left stick placement.

Nintendo is bad at controllers. :/

Except making them last, at least in the 'cube days. I can't believe how long the officially Nintendo made ones would last. >_>
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SwayM
01/16/18 3:34:20 PM
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Corrupt_Power posted...
Literally the only people who prefer the Dualshock controller layout to the Xbox layout are people who grew up only playing Sony consoles. The Xbox layout is factually more ergonomic and better-designed.


Its just fanboys. I grew up with PlayStation and the second I picked up the Xbox controller it was a night and day improvement.
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Tmk
01/16/18 3:50:50 PM
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You don't understand the difference between preferences and fanboyism. You might be a fanboy.
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SwayM
01/16/18 4:24:51 PM
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Darklit_Minuet
01/16/18 4:26:15 PM
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SwayM posted...
https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/19/16333376/us-navy-military-xbox-360-controller

Game over Sony apologists.

This makes them worse.

Our controllers aren't being used to torpedo brown people for oil
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Vindris_SNH
01/16/18 4:29:34 PM
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Gamecube controller is still the best controller ever made
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