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dameon_reaper
01/15/18 8:25:00 PM
#53:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
dameon_reaper posted...
What is with people's hard ons for guns.

But hey, with loose gun laws here...it means there won't be so many mass shootings. Oh wait.


Gun rights are great for self-defense, prevention of tyranny, hunting, sport, and collecting.


'prevention of tyranny'. Oh yeah, from who? If this is from the government, I'm sure we can beat their drones. Also, what IS tyranny? Because when do you start claiming it as tyranny? I understand hunting and sport, that, I find valid but I also don't see assault weapons as a reason to go hunting.

It still feels like the obsession is beyond anything for need. It all feels more like selfishness for gun obsessing nuts rather than protection.
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FLUFFYGERM
01/15/18 8:27:38 PM
#54:


dameon_reaper posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
dameon_reaper posted...
What is with people's hard ons for guns.

But hey, with loose gun laws here...it means there won't be so many mass shootings. Oh wait.


Gun rights are great for self-defense, prevention of tyranny, hunting, sport, and collecting.


'prevention of tyranny'. Oh yeah, from who? If this is from the government, I'm sure we can beat their drones. Also, what IS tyranny? Because when do you start claiming it as tyranny? I understand hunting and sport, that, I find valid but I also don't see assault weapons as a reason to go hunting.

It still feels like the obsession is beyond anything for need. It all feels more like selfishness for gun obsessing nuts rather than protection.


There are examples all over the world of armed citizens being a deterrent to tyranny. It's because when citizens have a fighting chance, they can deter the government or other powerful entities from installing dictatorship and authoritarianism.

When citizens can't be armed, this happens:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/11/world/asia/rohingya-myanmar-atrocities.html

You have no idea what you're talking about. Please go educate yourself on assault rifles and how they work before you continue to embarrass yourself.
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Sami1000
01/15/18 8:32:37 PM
#55:


bloodydeath0 posted...
lol norway's taxes make up 55% of the countries GDP. they produce next to nothing. meanwhile America's GDP is 50x larger and only 26% of it is tax.

Norway is like the spoiled teenager of the world. Contributes nothing to society and lives in its own little safe bubble, with 0 cultural diversity.

Go ahead and live in Norway while USA leads the world


Oh why can't every country have race wars, blm, gangs, kkk and shit and all the issues that follows like US.
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008Zulu
01/15/18 8:33:15 PM
#56:


Alisa posted...
Aussies have most of those (hint hint move here)

No! We are trying to lower the amount of racists here!
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bloodydeath0
01/15/18 8:34:41 PM
#57:


Sami1000 posted...
bloodydeath0 posted...
lol norway's taxes make up 55% of the countries GDP. they produce next to nothing. meanwhile America's GDP is 50x larger and only 26% of it is tax.

Norway is like the spoiled teenager of the world. Contributes nothing to society and lives in its own little safe bubble, with 0 cultural diversity.

Go ahead and live in Norway while USA leads the world


Oh why can't every country have race wars, blm, gangs, kkk and shit and all the issues that follows like US.

you're right, let's get rid of all diversity and be ethnically homogeneous. you voted Trump right?
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RebelElite791
01/15/18 8:35:19 PM
#58:


bloodydeath0 posted...
Sami1000 posted...
bloodydeath0 posted...
lol norway's taxes make up 55% of the countries GDP. they produce next to nothing. meanwhile America's GDP is 50x larger and only 26% of it is tax.

Norway is like the spoiled teenager of the world. Contributes nothing to society and lives in its own little safe bubble, with 0 cultural diversity.

Go ahead and live in Norway while USA leads the world


Oh why can't every country have race wars, blm, gangs, kkk and shit and all the issues that follows like US.

you're right, let's get rid of all diversity and be ethnically homogeneous. you voted Trump right?

Sami is a Finn and a pretty outspoken racist.
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I Like Toast
01/15/18 8:35:24 PM
#59:


FLUFFYGERM posted...

There are examples all over the world of armed citizens being a deterrent to tyranny.


now show it being used against the us army in the us. because that is the only relevant bit.

Disingenuous arguments like this are bad arguments. I don't own a gun, I like never will, gun ownership isn't going away because the second amendment exist and we kind of all i agree on not touching the first 10 beyond removing the racist bits of 200 odd years ago.

Argue for personal defense, argue for collection, argue for hunting, argue because it makes you forget about your small penis, but don't even attempt to argue it has any impact against tyranny when you're talking about us citizens.
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r4X0r
01/15/18 8:37:10 PM
#60:


I Like Toast posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...

There are examples all over the world of armed citizens being a deterrent to tyranny.


now show it being used against the us army in the us. because that is the only relevant bit.

Disingenuous arguments like this are bad arguments. I don't own a gun, I like never will, gun ownership isn't going away because the second amendment exist and we kind of all i agree on not touching the first 10 beyond removing the racist bits of 200 odd years ago.

Argue for personal defense, argue for collection, argue for hunting, argue because it makes you forget about your small penis, but don't even attempt to argue it has any impact against tyranny when you're talking about us citizens.


Exercising one's rights equates to having a small penis? How does THAT work?
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Sami1000
01/15/18 8:37:53 PM
#61:


RebelElite791 posted...
bloodydeath0 posted...
Sami1000 posted...
bloodydeath0 posted...
lol norway's taxes make up 55% of the countries GDP. they produce next to nothing. meanwhile America's GDP is 50x larger and only 26% of it is tax.

Norway is like the spoiled teenager of the world. Contributes nothing to society and lives in its own little safe bubble, with 0 cultural diversity.

Go ahead and live in Norway while USA leads the world


Oh why can't every country have race wars, blm, gangs, kkk and shit and all the issues that follows like US.

you're right, let's get rid of all diversity and be ethnically homogeneous. you voted Trump right?

Sami is a Finn and a pretty outspoken racist.


Lol
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I Like Toast
01/15/18 8:38:17 PM
#62:


r4X0r posted...

Exercising one's rights equates to having a small penis? How does THAT work?


well, at least you made it clear why you want a gun.
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KingCrabCake
01/15/18 8:39:35 PM
#63:


Does this mean the people crying are gonna move to Norway

*please say yes*
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xOmniCloudx
01/15/18 8:43:32 PM
#65:


bloodydeath0 posted...
Sami1000 posted...
bloodydeath0 posted...
lol norway's taxes make up 55% of the countries GDP. they produce next to nothing. meanwhile America's GDP is 50x larger and only 26% of it is tax.

Norway is like the spoiled teenager of the world. Contributes nothing to society and lives in its own little safe bubble, with 0 cultural diversity.

Go ahead and live in Norway while USA leads the world


Oh why can't every country have race wars, blm, gangs, kkk and shit and all the issues that follows like US.

you're right, let's get rid of all diversity and be ethnically homogeneous. you voted Trump right?


You guys know google is a thing to use for fact checking right? Norway has immigrants from outside Norway AND Europe and is "only" about 85% homogeneous....
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xOmniCloudx
01/15/18 8:47:43 PM
#66:


KingCrabCake posted...
Does this mean the people crying are gonna move to Norway

*please say yes*


If Norway offered citizenship to any that wanted it, a LOT of people would choose it because it's a superior choice. Problem is, you can't just want to move to another country. You have to qualify and most don't so can't. It's always been a poor argument of "leave if you don't like it" since most that want to leave can't.
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Stallion_Prime
01/15/18 8:50:54 PM
#67:


youd rather live in a place where the risk of getting gunned down is stupidly high for a 1st world country because it has lower taxes? lol
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xOmniCloudx
01/15/18 8:55:50 PM
#68:


Stallion_Prime posted...
youd rather live in a place where the risk of getting gunned down is stupidly high for a 1st world country because it has lower taxes? lol


Thing is Norwegians make WAY more money and also have universal education, paternity leave and tuition free education thus have way more money on average even with the taxes which make sense given what they offer.

So it's:
US = less taxes, more gun deaths, make less money, have less money to spend
Norway = more taxes, less gun deaths, make more money and have more money to spend + other 1st world standards America lacks

USA! USA! USA! Am I doing it right?!
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KingCrabCake
01/15/18 8:57:53 PM
#69:


America is #1 in cancer survival rate, noble peace prize winners, medical research, innovations, military, space, & right to barearms

Maybe we r onto something....maybe you guys who love norway so much and want america to be like them.....can just go to Norway
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bloodydeath0
01/15/18 8:58:57 PM
#70:


xOmniCloudx posted...
bloodydeath0 posted...
Sami1000 posted...
bloodydeath0 posted...
lol norway's taxes make up 55% of the countries GDP. they produce next to nothing. meanwhile America's GDP is 50x larger and only 26% of it is tax.

Norway is like the spoiled teenager of the world. Contributes nothing to society and lives in its own little safe bubble, with 0 cultural diversity.

Go ahead and live in Norway while USA leads the world


Oh why can't every country have race wars, blm, gangs, kkk and shit and all the issues that follows like US.

you're right, let's get rid of all diversity and be ethnically homogeneous. you voted Trump right?


You guys know google is a thing to use for fact checking right? Norway has immigrants from outside Norway AND Europe and is "only" about 85% homogeneous....

not really sure what point you're making but 85% homogeneous is very high, and they are the 14th least diverse country in the world
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KingCrabCake
01/15/18 8:59:14 PM
#71:


xOmniCloudx posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Does this mean the people crying are gonna move to Norway

*please say yes*


If Norway offered citizenship to any that wanted it, a LOT of people would choose it because it's a superior choice. Problem is, you can't just want to move to another country. You have to qualify and most don't so can't. It's always been a poor argument of "leave if you don't like it" since most that want to leave can't.


So can America take Norways immigration stance then?

*please say yes*
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FLUFFYGERM
01/15/18 8:59:39 PM
#72:


Serious response: if you do not believe an armed America would be a deterrent to tyranny in America, you are delusional and it is pointless to spend time debating the issue with you because you are completely ignorant on basic history and numbers.

Sorry not sorry
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KingCrabCake
01/15/18 9:00:51 PM
#73:


xOmniCloudx posted...
Stallion_Prime posted...
youd rather live in a place where the risk of getting gunned down is stupidly high for a 1st world country because it has lower taxes? lol


Thing is Norwegians make WAY more money .
?!


@xOmniCloudx source please
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xOmniCloudx
01/15/18 9:10:25 PM
#74:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Serious response: if you do not believe an armed America would be a deterrent to tyranny in America, you are delusional and it is pointless to spend time debating the issue with you because you are completely ignorant on basic history and numbers.

Sorry not sorry


If you think that American citizens can stand up to the government with the world's most powerful military, military machines like tanks, chemical weapons, bombs and drones, you're delusional. Armies of other countries can't beat America but everyday people of American can? lmao.
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xOmniCloudx
01/15/18 9:13:18 PM
#75:


bloodydeath0 posted...
xOmniCloudx posted...
bloodydeath0 posted...
Sami1000 posted...
bloodydeath0 posted...
lol norway's taxes make up 55% of the countries GDP. they produce next to nothing. meanwhile America's GDP is 50x larger and only 26% of it is tax.

Norway is like the spoiled teenager of the world. Contributes nothing to society and lives in its own little safe bubble, with 0 cultural diversity.

Go ahead and live in Norway while USA leads the world


Oh why can't every country have race wars, blm, gangs, kkk and shit and all the issues that follows like US.

you're right, let's get rid of all diversity and be ethnically homogeneous. you voted Trump right?


You guys know google is a thing to use for fact checking right? Norway has immigrants from outside Norway AND Europe and is "only" about 85% homogeneous....

not really sure what point you're making but 85% homogeneous is very high, and they are the 14th least diverse country in the world


14th least diverse among HUNDREDS of countries. It's factually one of the most diverse countries IN THE WORLD. You make it seem like the jump differs between the top ranking countries when it doesn't. US is the most diverse country in the world yet is about 75% homogeneous. That's only a mere 10% difference from Norway so even 1st and 14th place aren't far apart from each other. Also, those numbers in immigration and non-ethnic Norwegians are RISING!

Imo, Norway being an ethnic homeland is fine the way it is at those numbers. America is an immigrant land so makes sense for it to not be as homogeneous.
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Sphyx
01/15/18 9:16:35 PM
#76:


xOmniCloudx posted...
14th least diverse among HUNDREDS of countries. It's factually one of the most diverse countries IN THE WORLD.

wat

US is the most diverse country in the world

Not even in the top 50%. IIRC, almost no western nations are.
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I Like Toast
01/15/18 9:18:33 PM
#77:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Serious response: if you do not believe an armed America would be a deterrent to tyranny in America, you are delusional and it is pointless to spend time debating the issue with you because you are completely ignorant on basic history and numbers.


ah yes, because when the americans fought off the british aircraft cruisers, fighter jets, and tanks it was all because of the trusty musket! there is no ignorance of history required, there is your wilful ignorance of everything that's happened to the modern armies of the world since WW1.

an armed milita will do jackshit vs the us military on us soil. it wouldn't be vietnam where they're defending their home turf jungle and it's only a fraction of the us military might. The only way we'd be able to stop a tyrannical us government, is if the us army itself stood against it.

so I hope to god that your "serious" response is just you doubling down on being a troll. because otherwise, you've shown how truly sheltered your life has been.
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Zodd3224
01/15/18 9:20:57 PM
#78:


I Like Toast posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Serious response: if you do not believe an armed America would be a deterrent to tyranny in America, you are delusional and it is pointless to spend time debating the issue with you because you are completely ignorant on basic history and numbers.


ah yes, because when the americans fought off the british aircraft cruisers, fighter jets, and tanks it was all because of the trusty musket! there is no ignorance of history required, there is your wilful ignorance of everything that's happened to the modern armies of the world since WW1.

an armed milita will do jackshit vs the us military on us soil. it wouldn't be vietnam where they're defending their home turf jungle and it's only a fraction of the us military might. The only way we'd be able to stop a tyrannical us government, is if the us army itself stood against it.

so I hope to god that your "serious" response is just you doubling down on being a troll. because otherwise, you've shown how truly sheltered your life has been.


Its just something gun enthusiasts have convinced themselves is true to further justify no gun control. Even though it is completely absurd.
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KingCrabCake
01/15/18 9:22:56 PM
#79:


So @xOmniCloudx source....
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I Like Toast
01/15/18 9:22:59 PM
#80:


Zodd3224 posted...

Its just something gun enthusiasts have convinced themselves is true to further justify no gun control. Even though it is completely absurd.


proddy's not even an enthusiast, just an attention seeking loner.
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KingCrabCake
01/15/18 9:23:50 PM
#81:


Zodd3224 posted...
I Like Toast posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Serious response: if you do not believe an armed America would be a deterrent to tyranny in America, you are delusional and it is pointless to spend time debating the issue with you because you are completely ignorant on basic history and numbers.


ah yes, because when the americans fought off the british aircraft cruisers, fighter jets, and tanks it was all because of the trusty musket! there is no ignorance of history required, there is your wilful ignorance of everything that's happened to the modern armies of the world since WW1.

an armed milita will do jackshit vs the us military on us soil. it wouldn't be vietnam where they're defending their home turf jungle and it's only a fraction of the us military might. The only way we'd be able to stop a tyrannical us government, is if the us army itself stood against it.

so I hope to god that your "serious" response is just you doubling down on being a troll. because otherwise, you've shown how truly sheltered your life has been.


Its just something gun enthusiasts have convinced themselves is true to further justify no gun control. Even though it is completely absurd.


There is gun control. holy shit you anti-gun nuts are delusional
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bloodydeath0
01/15/18 9:24:38 PM
#82:


KingCrabCake posted...
So @xOmniCloudx source....

he has no idea what he's talking about, don't bother
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FLUFFYGERM
01/15/18 9:25:10 PM
#83:


a large amount of armed citizens and military defectors could severely cripple military operations via guerrilla warfare

you guys are delusional
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Zodd3224
01/15/18 9:25:14 PM
#84:


KingCrabCake posted...
So @xOmniCloudx source....


http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Norway/United-States/Cost-of-living
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Zodd3224
01/15/18 9:27:23 PM
#85:


KingCrabCake posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
I Like Toast posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Serious response: if you do not believe an armed America would be a deterrent to tyranny in America, you are delusional and it is pointless to spend time debating the issue with you because you are completely ignorant on basic history and numbers.


ah yes, because when the americans fought off the british aircraft cruisers, fighter jets, and tanks it was all because of the trusty musket! there is no ignorance of history required, there is your wilful ignorance of everything that's happened to the modern armies of the world since WW1.

an armed milita will do jackshit vs the us military on us soil. it wouldn't be vietnam where they're defending their home turf jungle and it's only a fraction of the us military might. The only way we'd be able to stop a tyrannical us government, is if the us army itself stood against it.

so I hope to god that your "serious" response is just you doubling down on being a troll. because otherwise, you've shown how truly sheltered your life has been.


Its just something gun enthusiasts have convinced themselves is true to further justify no gun control. Even though it is completely absurd.


There is gun control. holy shit you anti-gun nuts are delusional


Im not anti-guns. But the thought that citizens owning guns has any effect on preventing the government from doing anything is laughable.
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xOmniCloudx
01/15/18 9:31:32 PM
#86:


Sphyx posted...
xOmniCloudx posted...
14th least diverse among HUNDREDS of countries. It's factually one of the most diverse countries IN THE WORLD.

wat

US is the most diverse country in the world

Not even in the top 50%. IIRC, almost no western nations are.


Made a mistake with least instead of most. Where are these more diverse nations outside of the west? In fact, what definition of diverse are you using because clearly some people have a different one from each other.

KingCrabCake posted...
So @xOmniCloudx source....


Multi tasking, I'll get there. You could just google tho...

bloodydeath0 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
So @xOmniCloudx source....

he has no idea what he's talking about, don't bother


Of course I don't to you, you live in a world where anything you don't like isn't true. Meanwhile in actual reality...
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KingCrabCake
01/15/18 9:31:39 PM
#87:


Zodd3224 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
I Like Toast posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Serious response: if you do not believe an armed America would be a deterrent to tyranny in America, you are delusional and it is pointless to spend time debating the issue with you because you are completely ignorant on basic history and numbers.


ah yes, because when the americans fought off the british aircraft cruisers, fighter jets, and tanks it was all because of the trusty musket! there is no ignorance of history required, there is your wilful ignorance of everything that's happened to the modern armies of the world since WW1.

an armed milita will do jackshit vs the us military on us soil. it wouldn't be vietnam where they're defending their home turf jungle and it's only a fraction of the us military might. The only way we'd be able to stop a tyrannical us government, is if the us army itself stood against it.

so I hope to god that your "serious" response is just you doubling down on being a troll. because otherwise, you've shown how truly sheltered your life has been.


Its just something gun enthusiasts have convinced themselves is true to further justify no gun control. Even though it is completely absurd.


There is gun control. holy shit you anti-gun nuts are delusional


Im not anti-guns. But the thought that citizens owning guns has any effect on preventing the government from doing anything is laughable.


Okay thats all i needed to hear.
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KingCrabCake
01/15/18 9:33:05 PM
#88:


xOmniCloudx posted...

KingCrabCake posted...
So @xOmniCloudx source....


Multi tasking, I'll get there. You could just google tho...
...


You're replying to other posters who posted well after me...also i cant find it on google. Help me.

How much does your average Norwegian make in a year
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Zodd3224
01/15/18 9:33:35 PM
#89:


Zodd3224 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
So @xOmniCloudx source....


http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Norway/United-States/Cost-of-living

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FL81
01/15/18 9:33:38 PM
#90:


xOmniCloudx posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Serious response: if you do not believe an armed America would be a deterrent to tyranny in America, you are delusional and it is pointless to spend time debating the issue with you because you are completely ignorant on basic history and numbers.

Sorry not sorry


If you think that American citizens can stand up to the government with the world's most powerful military, military machines like tanks, chemical weapons, bombs and drones, you're delusional. Armies of other countries can't beat America but everyday people of American can? lmao.

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Dark_Spiret
01/15/18 9:33:47 PM
#91:


realistically a tyrannical uprising would never happen in this country. given how were brought up youd lose most of the military right off the bat and that combined with civilian guerilla tactics would make short work of anyone. hypothetically could an armed insurgency work against the US? yes. especially if its a million strong mixed into the general populace. that tends to make standard warefare difficult assuming you dont want to blow away the general population and ruin your infrastructure.

however guns also serve another purpose. they help in keeping governments in check. once a means of serious revolt is taken away the government will start pecking away at your civil liberties and use it as an excuse for the greater good. they may or may not go hitler on you, but very very slowly you will start to become a police state which will lead to worse things. its happened so many times in history and is currently happening now in other parts of the world.

on another note guns are immensely important in this country specifically because we have a much higher violence ratio (NOT including firearms) than nearly every other first world country and even many second world ones. the US has severe issues with drug and gang violence on top of a large racial problems and a whole host of other issues that are significantly multiplied compared to any other country. people need a means of defending themselves because the cops sure as fucking hell wont do it.
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I Like Toast
01/15/18 9:34:09 PM
#92:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
please feed me guys


ftfy
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FLUFFYGERM
01/15/18 9:35:06 PM
#93:


apparently you didn't learn about Vietnam or insurgencies in the middle east

military defectors would be numerous. citizens being armed with modern weaponry gives them a strong fighting chance. strong enough to deter any tyranny from taking place because a tyrant knows that a civil war would end any chance he/she has to obtain power.

the only way a tyrant could arise in america is if the government got rid of the 2nd amendment or rendered it ineffective through some roundabout means like banning ammunition
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FLUFFYGERM
01/15/18 9:35:34 PM
#94:


Dark_Spiret posted...
realistically a tyrannical uprising would never happen in this country. given how were brought up youd lose most of the military right off the bat and that combined with civilian guerilla tactics would make short work of anyone.

however guns also serve another purpose. they help in keeping governments in check. once a means of serious revolt is taken away the government will start pecking away at your civil liberties and use it as an excuse for the greater good. they may or may not go hitler on you, but very very slowly you will start to become a police state which will lead to worse things. its happened so many times in history and is currently happening now in other parts of the world.

on another note guns are immensely important in this country specifically because we have a much higher violence ratio (NOT including firearms) than nearly every other first world country and even many second world ones. the US has severe issues with drug and gang violence on top of a large racial problems and a whole host of other issues that are significantly multiplied compared to any other country. people need a means of defending themselves because the cops sure as fucking hell wont do it.


b-b-but clowns on CE are saying that guns are useless!1111
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KingCrabCake
01/15/18 9:35:57 PM
#95:


Zodd3224 posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
So xOmniCloudx source....


http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Norway/United-States/Cost-of-living


@Zodd3224 how much does your average Norwegian make in a year?
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xOmniCloudx
01/15/18 9:37:44 PM
#96:


Drones, bombs and a far more powerful arsenal than what the overwhelmingly majority of Americans could ever hope for would decimate guerilla warfare in the US quickly. This isn't a 3rd world shithole's military that can't fight their own people OR any actual military that's actually going all out for the W. It's hilarious how you guys are so convinced no full on military of another country can beat the US but you think everyday Americans can. So now everyday citizens of the US can beat entire militaries anywhere in the world? Just lol.
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bloodydeath0
01/15/18 9:37:50 PM
#97:


Zodd3224 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
So @xOmniCloudx source....


http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Norway/United-States/Cost-of-living

lol average income is slightly higher and cost of living is over double
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Zodd3224
01/15/18 9:37:52 PM
#98:


Dark_Spiret posted...
realistically a tyrannical uprising would never happen in this country. given how were brought up youd lose most of the military right off the bat and that combined with civilian guerilla tactics would make short work of anyone.

however guns also serve another purpose. they help in keeping governments in check. once a means of serious revolt is taken away the government will start pecking away at your civil liberties and use it as an excuse for the greater good. they may or may not go hitler on you, but very very slowly you will start to become a police state which will lead to worse things. its happened so many times in history and is currently happening now in other parts of the world.

on another note guns are immensely important in this country specifically because we have a much higher violence ratio (NOT including firearms) than nearly every other first world country and even many second world ones. the US has severe issues with drug and gang violence on top of a large racial problems and a whole host of other issues that are significantly multiplied compared to any other country. people need a means of defending themselves because the cops sure as fucking hell wont do it.


Why exactly would citizens need guns because of "gang violence and racial problems?"

Do citizens often defend themselves from gang members by shooting them? Or shoot other people because of "racial problems?"

What a post...
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KingCrabCake
01/15/18 9:38:48 PM
#99:


xOmniCloudx posted...
Drones, bombs and a far more powerful arsenal than what the overwhelmingly majority of Americans could ever hope for would decimate guerilla warfare in the US quickly. This isn't a 3rd world shithole's military that can't fight their own people OR any actual military that's actually going all out for the W. It's hilarious how you guys are so convinced no full on military of another country can beat the US but you think everyday Americans can. So now everyday citizens of the US can beat entire militaries anywhere in the world? Just lol.


Sooo you didnt read Dark_Spiret or Fluffys post?

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FLUFFYGERM
01/15/18 9:39:37 PM
#100:


OmniClown is so committed to his anti gun-rights narrative that he is literally downplaying the reality in Vietnam, the middle east, etc

that's how dishonest he is as an individual

it is worthless to debate with him because he refuses to understand that armed citizens and military defectors would put an end to that organized warfare he's pretending will happen

allow me to point once again to to what happens when citizens are not armed but governments are

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/11/world/asia/rohingya-myanmar-atrocities.html
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I Like Toast
01/15/18 9:40:00 PM
#101:


FL81 posted...

Yes, it's called asymmetric warfare


which pretty much relied on a home turf advantage in order to utilize positional advantages and being able to limit supply lines. of which american citizens would be able to do none of. US citizens aren't taking down a tank battalion, let alone the airforce and navy with most of the population living with 100 miles of a coast.

you could maybe get some small resistance packets going in the mountains, but you aren't doing jack shit elsewhere.

Dark_Spiret posted...
they help in keeping governments in check.


not when you're talking about the us government backed by the us military. that's an utterly insane thought to think that the threat of violence is what's stopping politicians (who already have no problem fucking us over for corporate america as is).

You want to keep the government in check? vote based on the candidate instead of the party.
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Zodd3224
01/15/18 9:40:31 PM
#102:


KingCrabCake posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
So xOmniCloudx source....


http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Norway/United-States/Cost-of-living


@Zodd3224 how much does your average Norwegian make in a year?


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thelocal.no/20131217/average-norwegian-earns-worlds-highest-salary/amp
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FLUFFYGERM
01/15/18 9:41:05 PM
#103:


Zodd3224 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
So xOmniCloudx source....


http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Norway/United-States/Cost-of-living


@Zodd3224 how much does your average Norwegian make in a year?


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thelocal.no/20131217/average-norwegian-earns-worlds-highest-salary/amp


http://www.privatedebtproject.org/view-articles.php?The-Risks-of-Rising-Household-Debt-in-Norway-34
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