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Kineth
01/17/18 2:37:31 PM
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ManSpread posted...
Kineth posted...
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the fact both @ Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is


Why would you say I'm not a libertarian?

What I'm meaning to say is with how radically different both of you are I have no idea what a libertarian actually is when you both identify as one


Fair enough. I misread your post when I responded tbh. Mal is nowhere close to being a libertarian, as an fyi.
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Kineth
01/17/18 2:38:08 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
Musourenka posted...
Kineth posted...
creativerealms posted...
Well he is cutting money from Government organizations which in term limits their power. Libertarians like that.


Libertarians like an efficiently run government and also aren't in favor of a huge military. Cutting money from programs just to cut money from them isn't how libertarianism works.


Indeed. Cutting regulations here and there for the sake of the doing so isn't something that neither "efficient government" libertarians nor super-minarchist libertarians like.


idk, to be fair I think this is more of a tactical question than an ideological one. There are libertarians who think this kind of "starve the beast" strategy is a good one, though I am not one.


No sane person should be of that mentality, but yeah, it's way too fucking common.
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Kim Kusanagi
01/17/18 3:23:48 PM
#54:


Kineth posted...
ManSpread posted...
Kineth posted...
@ManSpread posted...
the fact both @ Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is


Why would you say I'm not a libertarian?

What I'm meaning to say is with how radically different both of you are I have no idea what a libertarian actually is when you both identify as one


Fair enough. I misread your post when I responded tbh. Mal is nowhere close to being a libertarian, as an fyi.


@Mal_Fet pls respond
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
01/17/18 3:30:27 PM
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I am a libertarian and won't be happy until I can sell heroine to a 5 year old.

But in reality I call myself a libertarian because I for the most part come down to "Let people and businesses do what they want as long as it's not hurting anyone".

Cake shop doesn't want to make a gay wedding cake cool.

You want to smoke weed cool.

Gays want to get married cool.

You want to own a gun cool.

Im neither a republican nor a Democrat but I'm also not delusional enough to think you don't have to work with the system we currently have so I'll vote Democrat or republican. Depends on the person and what they support.

That said I can't stand Trump. He's a pos.
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Kineth
01/17/18 3:41:10 PM
#56:


Kim Kusanagi posted...
Kineth posted...
ManSpread posted...
Kineth posted...
@ManSpread posted...
the fact both @ Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is


Why would you say I'm not a libertarian?

What I'm meaning to say is with how radically different both of you are I have no idea what a libertarian actually is when you both identify as one


Fair enough. I misread your post when I responded tbh. Mal is nowhere close to being a libertarian, as an fyi.


@Mal_Fet pls respond


I have him on ignore so y'all would end up having to entertain him.
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FL81
01/17/18 3:44:44 PM
#57:


Musourenka posted...
Diet libertarians support Trump.

Those with more consistency do not.

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Kim Kusanagi
01/17/18 4:19:31 PM
#58:


Kineth posted...
Kim Kusanagi posted...
Kineth posted...
ManSpread posted...
Kineth posted...
@ManSpread posted...
the fact both @ Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is


Why would you say I'm not a libertarian?

What I'm meaning to say is with how radically different both of you are I have no idea what a libertarian actually is when you both identify as one


Fair enough. I misread your post when I responded tbh. Mal is nowhere close to being a libertarian, as an fyi.


@Mal_Fet pls respond


I have him on ignore so y'all would end up having to entertain him.


Are you not entertained
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Rika_Furude
01/17/18 4:21:53 PM
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Because:

1) bernie was the best choice
2) you guys didnt vote bernie for whatever reason
3) only two options left are a criminal who should be in prison and a businessman who the media hates
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Kamala_Harris
01/17/18 4:30:31 PM
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Being a right wing libertarian was more of a big deal in like 2008 like during the Bush years when the GOP was like a Bush cult.

Now basically everyone is a right wing libertarian and the Tea Party made it more normal.
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Mal_Fet
01/17/18 4:45:11 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
Shadowplay posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Libertarians don't claim to oppise Trump. His policies are basically everything libertarians want.

Ah, so Mal_Fet, finally reveals why he submits to Trump.

Funny too since the king of libertarians voted for Hillary just to keep Trump out of office.


Keep in mind, during the campaign season when most libertarian users were saying they were voting for Gary Johnson and others should too, Mal_Fet was saying "Oh yeah, I'm voting for Gary Johnson, but you all should totally vote for Trump!"

It's gotta be easy accusing others of being hypocrites when you just lie about them saying things they never said at all.
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thrashmetal14
01/17/18 5:19:41 PM
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To all the people saying libertarians are "diet republicans", why is it that libertarians disagree with republicans when it comes to gay rights, the war on drugs, foreign policy, abortion rights, immigration, federal spending, etc. etc.?

To be honest, if someone claims to be a libertarian AND a Trump supporter theyre either stupid or ignorant. Or both.
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FL81
01/17/18 5:21:32 PM
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The problem isn't that libertarians are diet republicans, but that a lot of diet republicans are using the term libertarian to describe themselves.
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Webmaster4531
01/17/18 5:30:42 PM
#64:


thrashmetal14 posted...
why is it that libertarians disagree with republicans when it comes to gay rights, the war on drugs, foreign policy, abortion rights, immigration, federal spending, etc. etc.?

These self described libertarians are a needle in a haystack.
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a42ozslushie
01/17/18 5:34:03 PM
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Probably because Libertarians are not a hivemind and it's perfectly reasonable to expect some Libertarians to hate Trump and for some to love him?
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Anteaterking
01/17/18 5:41:17 PM
#66:


Rika_Furude posted...
Because:

1) bernie was the best choice
2) you guys didnt vote bernie for whatever reason
3) only two options left are a criminal who should be in prison and a businessman who the media hates


How do "Bernie supporter" and "libertarian" overlap?
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darkjedilink
01/17/18 8:37:49 PM
#67:


Webmaster4531 posted...
thrashmetal14 posted...
why is it that libertarians disagree with republicans when it comes to gay rights, the war on drugs, foreign policy, abortion rights, immigration, federal spending, etc. etc.?

These self described libertarians are a needle in a haystack.

thrashmetal14 described the Libertarian philosophy to a tee...
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Waluigi7
01/17/18 8:45:43 PM
#68:


darkjedilink posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
thrashmetal14 posted...
why is it that libertarians disagree with republicans when it comes to gay rights, the war on drugs, foreign policy, abortion rights, immigration, federal spending, etc. etc.?

These self described libertarians are a needle in a haystack.

thrashmetal14 described the Libertarian philosophy to a tee...

I've seen you argue against those issues multiple times.
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furb
01/17/18 8:50:58 PM
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I thought libertarians thought borders are fabricated concept and that people and capital should freely move?
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KhlavicLanguage
01/17/18 8:56:39 PM
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100% of alt-right internetbeards old enough to have been political before 2014 were """libertarians""" back then

really makes you think
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darkjedilink
01/17/18 9:01:36 PM
#71:


Waluigi7 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
thrashmetal14 posted...
why is it that libertarians disagree with republicans when it comes to gay rights, the war on drugs, foreign policy, abortion rights, immigration, federal spending, etc. etc.?

These self described libertarians are a needle in a haystack.

thrashmetal14 described the Libertarian philosophy to a tee...

I've seen you argue against those issues multiple times.

I've argued against government intrusion on individual rights in the name of "gay rights," I've never argued on the "pro" side of the war on drugs (I feel that the very vast majority of them should be decriminalized, and at the very least law enforcement needs to stop selling and distributing drugs in the name of drug busts), I've been very pro "stay out of Syria," so I'm not sure where foreign policy comes from (though foreign policy is something I do break from the traditional Libertarian ethos, admittedly, along with immigration), and I've been calling for at least a 50% reduction in Federal spending across the board.
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sktgamer_13dude
01/18/18 3:22:00 PM
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thrashmetal14 posted...
To all the people saying libertarians are "diet republicans", why is it that libertarians disagree with republicans when it comes to gay rights, the war on drugs, foreign policy, abortion rights, immigration, federal spending, etc. etc.?

To be honest, if someone claims to be a libertarian AND a Trump supporter theyre either stupid or ignorant. Or both.

Those are true libertarians and not people like Mal who say theyre libertarian but theyre actually more Republican.
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Kirby
01/18/18 3:24:23 PM
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Because its possible to be libertarian with some additional left or right leaning thoughts? Just because youre a member of a specific party doesnt mean you 100% agree with every single stance that party has.
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Kim Kusanagi
01/18/18 3:33:54 PM
#74:


Mal_Fet posted...
It's gotta be easy accusing others of being hypocrites when you just lie about them saying things they never said at all.


Do you deny having said it?
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Kineth
01/18/18 7:26:33 PM
#75:


Anteaterking posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Because:

1) bernie was the best choice
2) you guys didnt vote bernie for whatever reason
3) only two options left are a criminal who should be in prison and a businessman who the media hates


How do "Bernie supporter" and "libertarian" overlap?


Libertarians are classic liberals. Both are very much for social freedoms. That is, actual libertarians are pretty close to social democrats.
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0AbsoluteZero0
01/20/18 6:55:07 AM
#76:


Mal_Fet posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
Shadowplay posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Libertarians don't claim to oppise Trump. His policies are basically everything libertarians want.

Ah, so Mal_Fet, finally reveals why he submits to Trump.

Funny too since the king of libertarians voted for Hillary just to keep Trump out of office.


Keep in mind, during the campaign season when most libertarian users were saying they were voting for Gary Johnson and others should too, Mal_Fet was saying "Oh yeah, I'm voting for Gary Johnson, but you all should totally vote for Trump!"

It's gotta be easy accusing others of being hypocrites when you just lie about them saying things they never said at all.

Bullshit. You were shilling just as hard for Trump then as you are now, if not more so.
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Kim Kusanagi
01/20/18 9:06:12 AM
#77:


Kineth posted...
Anteaterking posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Because:

1) bernie was the best choice
2) you guys didnt vote bernie for whatever reason
3) only two options left are a criminal who should be in prison and a businessman who the media hates


How do "Bernie supporter" and "libertarian" overlap?


Libertarians are classic liberals. Both are very much for social freedoms. That is, actual libertarians are pretty close to social democrats.


Yeah I loled when Mal said that classically trained Libertarians are close to Conservadrones.

Rofl.
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