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LIsJustice
01/12/18 8:06:23 AM
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Any lmao
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
01/12/18 8:07:09 AM
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yeah

sucks that we have no civil or human rights

and that we can have frank discussions about the misgivings we have for our government
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HypnoCoosh
01/12/18 8:08:07 AM
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It's like TC has zero life experience outside of a tiny bubble.
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Nomadic View
01/12/18 8:09:09 AM
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Yep. Its terrible. Absolute shithole. You should move to Mexico before things get worse.
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The Admiral
01/12/18 8:10:19 AM
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I've been hearing users here call the southern U.S. states a shithole for years. Strange they're suddenly so triggered when someone users that language to describe countries that are far worse.
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ChainedRedone
01/12/18 8:10:36 AM
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LIsJustice posted...
Any lmao


Any what? Wtf does this even mean.
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Paragon21XX
01/12/18 8:12:03 AM
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ChainedRedone posted...
LIsJustice posted...
Any lmao


Any what? Wtf does this even mean.

I think he's one of those ayy lmao aliens but with a speech impediment.
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Error1355
01/12/18 8:13:47 AM
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@The_Admiral posted...
I've been hearing users here call the southern U.S. states a shithole for years. Strange they're suddenly so triggered when someone users that language to describe countries that are far worse.

To be fair the issue people have had seems more that he is generalizing the population of these countries to be inherently bad people. Also the President should be held to a higher standard than 'CE Users'.
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voldothegr8
01/12/18 8:16:52 AM
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The Admiral posted...
I've been hearing users here call the southern U.S. states a shithole for years. Strange they're suddenly so triggered when someone users that language to describe countries that are far worse.

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The Admiral
01/12/18 8:17:28 AM
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Error1355 posted...
@The_Admiral posted...
I've been hearing users here call the southern U.S. states a shithole for years. Strange they're suddenly so triggered when someone users that language to describe countries that are far worse.

To be fair the issue people have had seems more that he is generalizing the population of these countries to be inherently bad people. Also the President should be held to a higher standard than 'CE Users'.


Saying that the country is a shithole doesn't mean every citizen from that country is shitty. If the places are so terrible that millions of refugees are fleeing them, it's hard to argue that they aren't shitholes.

Also, I thought we were passed the point of expecting decorum from Trump. People can't call him an idiot and a button everyday, and then get upset when he says off-color remarks.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
01/12/18 8:19:08 AM
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The Admiral posted...
I've been hearing users here call the southern U.S. states a shithole for years. Strange they're suddenly so triggered when someone users that language to describe countries that are far worse.

wow
its almost like certain parts of a country don't represent the whole of the nation
its almost like context and relativity matter
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The Admiral
01/12/18 8:21:51 AM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
its almost like certain parts of a country don't represent the whole of the nation


It's almost like people are making generalizations about regions that house millions of people in both scenarios, with the difference being the southern states are hundreds of times better economically and in terms of basic human rights than the African countries or Haiti.
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Nomadic View
01/12/18 8:24:26 AM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
The Admiral posted...
I've been hearing users here call the southern U.S. states a shithole for years. Strange they're suddenly so triggered when someone users that language to describe countries that are far worse.

wow
its almost like certain parts of a country don't represent the whole of the nation
its almost like context and relativity matter


Is the southern States, where the majority of African Americans reside, a shithole?
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Smashingpmkns
01/12/18 8:25:01 AM
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Hilarious how republicans, the family values party, hold the US president to such low standards now. But only Trump. If Obama were to have said any of this he'd be an outright "thug".
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Polycosm
01/12/18 8:26:16 AM
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Error1355 posted...
@The_Admiral posted...
I've been hearing users here call the southern U.S. states a shithole for years. Strange they're suddenly so triggered when someone users that language to describe countries that are far worse.

To be fair the issue people have had seems more that he is generalizing the population of these countries to be inherently bad people. Also the President should be held to a higher standard than 'CE Users'.

I think you're both right, to an extent.

If I heard any random person say that another country is a "shithole," I wouldn't immediately conclude that they're racist. We all know and recognize that the world consists of first-world and third-world countries. What makes Trump's comment so distasteful to me is that it reinforces his long record of racial remarks.
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Nomadic View
01/12/18 8:29:28 AM
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Polycosm posted...
Error1355 posted...
@The_Admiral posted...
I've been hearing users here call the southern U.S. states a shithole for years. Strange they're suddenly so triggered when someone users that language to describe countries that are far worse.

To be fair the issue people have had seems more that he is generalizing the population of these countries to be inherently bad people. Also the President should be held to a higher standard than 'CE Users'.

I think you're both right, to an extent.

If I heard any random person say that another country is a "shithole," I wouldn't immediately conclude that they're racist. We all know and recognize that the world consists of first-world and third-world countries. What makes Trump's comment so distasteful to me is that it reinforces his long record of racial remarks.


The left conflates everything he says or does as racist. Trump could cure cancer and the left would call him racist for not curing sickle cell.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
01/12/18 8:37:50 AM
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The Admiral posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
its almost like certain parts of a country don't represent the whole of the nation


It's almost like people are making generalizations about regions that house millions of people in both scenarios, with the difference being the southern states are hundreds of times better economically and in terms of basic human rights than the African countries or Haiti.

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
its almost like context and relativity matter

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Error1355
01/12/18 8:38:17 AM
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@The_Admiral posted...
Saying that the country is a shithole doesn't mean every citizen from that country is shitty. If the places are so terrible that millions of refugees are fleeing them, it's hard to argue that they aren't shitholes.

"Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?"

It's hard to not connect the dots that he is attacking the people in the countries as a whole? That combined with the White House response of 'Like other nations that have merit-based immigration, President Trump is fighting for permanent solutions that make our country stronger by welcoming those who can contribute to our society, grow our economy and assimilate into our great nation.' which is implying that the people in these countries would inharently not ever be able to contribute to America?

I mean in terms of calling the infrastructure and overall government structure of some of these areas as 'shitholes' I can't really argue that. Just in context this comes off as insulting the population of these countries as a whole. I feel that's what the issue is.
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HypnoCoosh
01/12/18 8:40:39 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
If Obama were to have said any of this he'd be an outright "thug".


I don't think you know what that word means.
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The Admiral
01/12/18 8:42:11 AM
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Error1355 posted...
@The_Admiral posted...
Saying that the country is a shithole doesn't mean every citizen from that country is shitty. If the places are so terrible that millions of refugees are fleeing them, it's hard to argue that they aren't shitholes.

"Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?"

It's hard to not connect the dots that he is attacking the people in the countries as a whole? That combined with the White House response of 'Like other nations that have merit-based immigration, President Trump is fighting for permanent solutions that make our country stronger by welcoming those who can contribute to our society, grow our economy and assimilate into our great nation.' which is implying that the people in these countries would inherently not ever be able to contribute to America?

I mean in terms of calling the infrastructure and overall government structure of some of these areas as 'shitholes' I can't really argue that. Just in context this comes off as insulting the population of these countries as a whole. I feel that's what the issue is.


Fair enough, this is a perfectly reasonable point. However, I tend to think his remarks were more about encouraging immigration of people who are educated and who bring valuable work skills to a country they want to become a citizen of, rather than people who don't really want to be here but are simply fleeing their shithole countries for anything better.
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Smashingpmkns
01/12/18 8:45:26 AM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
If Obama were to have said any of this he'd be an outright "thug".


I don't think you know what that word means.


Pretty sure you'd be one of the ones calling Obama a thug tbh
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HypnoCoosh
01/12/18 8:48:04 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
If Obama were to have said any of this he'd be an outright "thug".


I don't think you know what that word means.


Pretty sure you'd be one of the ones calling Obama a thug tbh


Never once.

Stop making shit up.
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Jiggy101011
01/12/18 8:50:04 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Error1355 posted...
@The_Admiral posted...
Saying that the country is a shithole doesn't mean every citizen from that country is shitty. If the places are so terrible that millions of refugees are fleeing them, it's hard to argue that they aren't shitholes.

"Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?"

It's hard to not connect the dots that he is attacking the people in the countries as a whole? That combined with the White House response of 'Like other nations that have merit-based immigration, President Trump is fighting for permanent solutions that make our country stronger by welcoming those who can contribute to our society, grow our economy and assimilate into our great nation.' which is implying that the people in these countries would inherently not ever be able to contribute to America?

I mean in terms of calling the infrastructure and overall government structure of some of these areas as 'shitholes' I can't really argue that. Just in context this comes off as insulting the population of these countries as a whole. I feel that's what the issue is.


Fair enough, this is a perfectly reasonable point. However, I tend to think his remarks were more about encouraging immigration of people who are educated and who bring valuable work skills to a country they want to become a citizen of, rather than people who don't really want to be here but are simply fleeing their shithole countries for anything better.


That is some crazy mental gymnastics you did to arrive at that conclusion.
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Smashingpmkns
01/12/18 8:50:15 AM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
If Obama were to have said any of this he'd be an outright "thug".


I don't think you know what that word means.


Pretty sure you'd be one of the ones calling Obama a thug tbh


Never once.

Stop making shit up.


Just seems to fit your usual rhetoric.
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HypnoCoosh
01/12/18 8:59:13 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
If Obama were to have said any of this he'd be an outright "thug".


I don't think you know what that word means.


Pretty sure you'd be one of the ones calling Obama a thug tbh


Never once.

Stop making shit up.


Just seems to fit your usual rhetoric.


Seems to me like you have polarized views.
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