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The Admiral
01/09/18 4:29:50 PM
#104:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
You're free to show otherwise. We're waiting.


Thank you for showing your continued illiteracy and conflation of two different terms. I'm sorry that a lazy Google search is the sole basis of what you think your argument is.

Anyway, the definition is the same one I posted for you in that topic when you made these ignorant posts originally. This doesn't use that explicit phrase, but this was what I meant:

The Marxist left has always dismissed liberalisms commitment to protecting the rights of its political opponents you know, the old line often misattributed to Voltaire, I disapprove of what you have to say, but Ill defend to the death your right to say it as hopelessly nave. If you maintain equal political rights for the oppressive capitalists and their proletarian victims, this will simply keep in place societys unequal power relations. Why respect the rights of the class whose power youre trying to smash? And so, according to Marxist thinking, your political rights depend entirely on what class you belong to. The modern far left has borrowed the Marxist critique of liberalism and substituted race and gender identities for economic ones.


This should have been fairly obvious since the topic was about SJWs, and your cultural Marxism definition made no sense in that context. I do recall you having a meltdown and derailing that topic with this same nonsense then when I pointed this out.
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ShinigamiSoul
01/09/18 4:32:54 PM
#105:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
The Admiral posted...
Theyre not the same thing

TSuLOTL

You're free to show otherwise. We're waiting.

This is usually the part where Sadmiral does his famous disappearing act
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ShinigamiSoul
01/09/18 4:33:39 PM
#106:


Oh there he is
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hockeybub89
01/09/18 4:35:21 PM
#107:


EverDownward posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
EverDownward posted...
I stopped being a liberal when I saw them throw their own under the bus for asking too hard a question four years ago. I thought democrats were supposed to be progressive, good, not backwards like conservatives. I thought asking questions were not only a foundation of being a good democrat but a bedrock of western civilization.


You'd make a better point if you stated what was asked instead of dancing around the point

When some people were wondering if there was any collusion between a game dev and a journalist reporting on the dev's game, and subsequently gaming publications online started a slander campaign against gamers.

I'm not defending the shit people said about the dev, but I am defending their questioning of collusion. If there wasn't, you don't go about slandering an entire base simply because people asked whether or not a dev was in bed with a journalist.

I have a friend that got really ticked off by that whole controversy and still is to this day. He still sticks to his convictions though and hasn't stopped being very left of center. I guess he wasn't secretly a centrist like you.
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Broseph_Stalin
01/09/18 4:35:30 PM
#108:


The Admiral posted...
The Marxist left has always dismissed liberalisms commitment to protecting the rights of its political opponents you know, the old line often misattributed to Voltaire, I disapprove of what you have to say, but Ill defend to the death your right to say it as hopelessly nave. If you maintain equal political rights for the oppressive capitalists and their proletarian victims, this will simply keep in place societys unequal power relations. Why respect the rights of the class whose power youre trying to smash? And so, according to Marxist thinking, your political rights depend entirely on what class you belong to. The modern far left has borrowed the Marxist critique of liberalism and substituted race and gender identities for economic ones.


There is absolutely no definition of social marxism here at all. It's not even mentioned. "My" definition is correct because it's the only definition that exist and you can't show otherwise.

Topic was about Christians btw, not "SJWs".
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Questionmarktarius
01/09/18 4:36:49 PM
#109:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
There is absolutely no definition of social marxism here at all.

Isn't "social marxism" just regular marxism?
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hockeybub89
01/09/18 4:37:41 PM
#110:


The Admiral posted...
Broseph_Stalin posted...
You're free to show otherwise. We're waiting.


Thank you for showing your continued illiteracy and conflation of two different terms. I'm sorry that a lazy Google search is the sole basis of what you think your argument is.

Anyway, the definition is the same one I posted for you in that topic when you made these ignorant posts originally. This doesn't use that explicit phrase, but this was what I meant:

The Marxist left has always dismissed liberalisms commitment to protecting the rights of its political opponents you know, the old line often misattributed to Voltaire, I disapprove of what you have to say, but Ill defend to the death your right to say it as hopelessly nave. If you maintain equal political rights for the oppressive capitalists and their proletarian victims, this will simply keep in place societys unequal power relations. Why respect the rights of the class whose power youre trying to smash? And so, according to Marxist thinking, your political rights depend entirely on what class you belong to. The modern far left has borrowed the Marxist critique of liberalism and substituted race and gender identities for economic ones.


This should have been fairly obvious since the topic was about SJWs, and your cultural Marxism definition made no sense in that context. I do recall you having a meltdown and derailing that topic with this same nonsense then when I pointed this out.

You can't just make up your own terms. Are you a SJW or something?
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The Admiral
01/09/18 4:38:31 PM
#111:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Broseph_Stalin posted...
There is absolutely no definition of social marxism here at all.

Isn't "social marxism" just regular marxism?


Social Marxism is Marxist thinking applied to identity politics rather than economic class. Has nothing to do with cultural Marxism, which is a conspiracy theory about Jewish Communists taking over institutions.
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hockeybub89
01/09/18 4:39:20 PM
#112:


The Admiral posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Broseph_Stalin posted...
There is absolutely no definition of social marxism here at all.

Isn't "social marxism" just regular marxism?


Social Marxism is Marxist thinking applied to identity politics rather than economic class. Has nothing to do with cultural Marxism.

Which expert coined the term?
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gguirao
01/09/18 4:39:57 PM
#113:


Right-wing politics.
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Broseph_Stalin
01/09/18 4:41:55 PM
#114:


hockeybub89 posted...
Which expert coined the term?


The Nazi party.
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hockeybub89
01/09/18 4:44:00 PM
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Broseph_Stalin
01/09/18 4:44:20 PM
#116:


The Admiral posted...
Social Marxism... Has nothing to do with cultural Marxism


TSuLOTL
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The Admiral
01/09/18 4:45:23 PM
#117:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
The Admiral posted...
Social Marxism... Has nothing to do with cultural Marxism


TSuLOTL


Thank you for showing your continued illiteracy and conflation of two different terms. I'm sorry that a lazy Google search is the sole basis of what you think your argument is.


This is why you are treated the way you are.

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Broseph_Stalin
01/09/18 4:47:42 PM
#119:


Again, you're free to show ONE EXAMPLE supporting your definition admiral. I'm just showing the thousand supporting the real one.
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The Admiral
01/09/18 4:49:44 PM
#120:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Again, you're free to show ONE EXAMPLE supporting your definition admiral. I'm just showing the thousand supporting the real one.


You're posting definitions of cultural Marxism. Not sure how many times we need to go over this.

1) It's been explained to you repeatedly
2) Your definition makes zero sense in the context of the original discussion
3) It's completely inconsistent with my pro-Israel views, which are fairly well known here

The lengths some of you losers will go to just to justify branding someone who upsets you a Nazi...
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Darmik
01/09/18 4:50:30 PM
#121:


There are people literally getting upset because Nazis and KKK are gunned down in Wolfenstein and because there's a redneck Christian cult in Far Cry 5. So of course they'd also get upset when a white supremacist teacher gets fired.

If these people don't identify with this shit then I have no idea why they get so defensive over them.
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Broseph_Stalin
01/09/18 4:51:27 PM
#122:


The Admiral posted...
You're posting definitions of cultural Marxism


Because it's the same thing as social Marxism.

What we're all waiting on is any kind of definition that says otherwise. You won't post it for some strange reason.
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The Admiral
01/09/18 4:53:04 PM
#123:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Because it's the same thing as social Marxism.


This is why you are treated the way you are.

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Broseph_Stalin
01/09/18 4:55:05 PM
#124:


What we're all waiting on is any kind of definition that says otherwise. You won't post it for some strange reason.
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EverDownward
01/09/18 6:22:04 PM
#125:


Zeeak4444 posted...
EverDownward posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
EverDownward posted...
I stopped being a liberal when I saw them throw their own under the bus for asking too hard a question four years ago. I thought democrats were supposed to be progressive, good, not backwards like conservatives. I thought asking questions were not only a foundation of being a good democrat but a bedrock of western civilization.


You'd make a better point if you stated what was asked instead of dancing around the point

When some people were wondering if there was any collusion between a game dev and a journalist reporting on the dev's game, and subsequently gaming publications online started a slander campaign against gamers.

I'm not defending the shit people said about the dev, but I am defending their questioning of collusion. If there wasn't, you don't go about slandering an entire base simply because people asked whether or not a dev was in bed with a journalist.


So gamer gate was enough to say fuck all liberals (when it was mostly SJWs who were apart of it) and switch to a side that spent decades arguing that video games were the cause of mass shootings and shit?

I mean... really...

The reaction shouldn't have been to demean a swath of people that included those that weren't even involved with the worst perpetrators. Had they ignored it that would have been one thing, but they didn't. That was the watershed moment that introduced me to the worst elements of liberals. I mean, it really was like opening my eyes to how bad unchecked liberalism can be.

No, I'm not a liberal anymore. But I wouldn't strictly call myself a republican either. I just want to be able to ask questions, even hard and unpleasant ones, and not be thrown under the bus for it.
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