Current Events > Would you help/shelter someone whose race has been targeted for genocide?

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Just as the title says. Your government has, for whatever reason (political or otherwise), decides to enact genocide upon every member of that race residing in the country. This person and their small family come to you for help.

However, if you decide to aid them, you will be risking your own life should you be found out; you could be imprisoned or even executed for treason.

Would you help them despite the risks upon your own life? Or would you refuse and have them go on their way even if it results in their own deaths soon after?
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Nope. Gotta worry about my family first
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sure.

especially if they had an attractive daughter

It depends on the year, tbh. Present day I wouldn't help our human government commit genocide on anyone, even if it was a race I don't particularly like. 20 years or so from now I'd have to side with our robotic government overlords, knowing full well that any attempts at deception would be futile.
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Is there a bounty for turning them in?
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KingCrabCake posted...

Nope. Gotta worry about my family first

This, unfortunately helping them out puts us at huge risk, so I cant risk it. Id hope that theyd be safe soon though
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r4X0r posted...

Is there a bounty for turning them in?

No.
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BUMP
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I wanna say yes, since my ethnic group was targeted for genocide
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leviamon2 posted...

sure.

especially if they had an attractive daughter

lmao!

I want to say yes, but I think if I were realistically in this situation my family would come first and I would not shelter said person...
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Depends on why they were targeted.
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yes
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Offworlder1 posted...

Depends on why they were targeted.

can you give examples as to what might get you to help, and what might not make you wanna help?
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Are they Krogans
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also my family and their neighbors and whatnot sheltered jews from axis forces during ww2 so it would be a disservice to them if I didn't do the same if an opportunity arises
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Probably not. Way too many means of electronic surveillance are possible today that you couldnt hide that kind of thing for long against a regime hell bent on finding them

I would not take that risk
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@boxington

If they were war criminals or a large group of hate mongers, or the migrants(the rapists in EU) then I would actively help hunt them down cause fuck those people.

If it were a case like WW2 with Hitler and the jews I would shelter them, train them how to kill the enemy, and actively fight/kill people looking to harm them.
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Offworlder1 posted...

@boxington

If they were war criminals or a large group of hate mongers, or the migrants(the rapists in EU) then I would actively help hunt them down cause fuck those people.

If it were a case like WW2 with Hitler and the jews I would shelter them, train them how to kill the enemy, and actively fight/kill people looking to harm them.

In this case, it's the latter. These people have done no wrong (at least, not as a group), but have simply been targeted due to being scapegoated for the country's problems.
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Absolutely. And I would actively partake in the resistance.
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I would like to believe so.

Depends. If harboring them was punishable by death, then probably not, especially since I have a 3 year old at home. If I was by myself, then I would probably more likely to take them in.

If there was a growing resistance that actually had manpower to face the authorities who are perpetrating the extinguishing, then that would also increase my likelihood of helping them.

Mostly, there's a whole lot of "I don't know what I would do" when it comes to the answer to this question.
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If an ongoing genocide was happening in America I would probably become a militant.
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NadYobWoc posted...

Absolutely. And I would actively partake in the resistance.

I would do all this if they didn't target my family.

Not if I have a family
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I will not risk my family. They didn't ask to be put in that situation and don't expect me to be a hero. If I had no family to worry about, I think my answer would be different.
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Nah. Risking my own life for a complete stranger is just stupid.
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I would right now as I have no family. If I had a child I wouldn't.

Skye Reynolds posted...

I would like to believe so.

Is my answer
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I would
Definitely
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As much as I would want to, I have a wife and daughter that comes before anyone else. If it puts my families life in danger then I'm staying out of it.
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I can't my house is too small to hide a small family unfortunately
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I have my own to look after. I can't put my family's lives at risk for a stranger
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Most liberals would. Most conservatives wouldn't.

This isn't being disparaging against conservatives btw, its literally just stating the facts of the psychological differences between the two.
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nicklebro posted...

Most liberals would. Most conservatives wouldn't.

This isn't being disparaging against conservatives btw, its literally just stating the facts of the psychological differences between the two.

Do you think liberals also give more to charity to conservatives because of these psychological differences?
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Kazi1212 posted...

nicklebro posted...

Most liberals would. Most conservatives wouldn't.

This isn't being disparaging against conservatives btw, its literally just stating the facts of the psychological differences between the two.

Do you think liberals also give more to charity to conservatives because of these psychological differences?

No, how much you give to charity is a far different subject and has many more determining factors than your political affiliation. I mean a lot of that can be a tax write off, so how compassionate you are won't even come into play for many rich charity donors. And those are the people who donate the most to charity. But taking a needy stranger into your home? That's pure compassion.
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nicklebro posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

nicklebro posted...

Most liberals would. Most conservatives wouldn't.

This isn't being disparaging against conservatives btw, its literally just stating the facts of the psychological differences between the two.

Do you think liberals also give more to charity to conservatives because of these psychological differences?

No, how much you give to charity is a far different subject and has many more determining factors than your political affiliation. I mean a lot of that can be a tax write off, so how compassionate you are won't even come into play for many rich charity donors. And those are the people who donate the most to charity. But taking a needy stranger into your home? That's pure compassion.

Ok. Is there any other way to evaluate your claim that conservatives wouldnt do this as much as liberals? How do you measure compassion? To me, I dont think it would matter whether the person was liberal or conservative. These are merely political ideologies that we entertain from the comfortability of our couches. But when shit hits the fan and you have to make a decision that impacts a life directly in front of your eyes, its much more visceral, and thus our political ideologies dont carry as much weight when deciding what to do, our instincts does. I guess what Im saying is political ideology is not necessarily correlated to character, surely you can agree someone can be equally a good person and do good deeds regardless of whether they are liberal or conservative?

But perhaps your view is far more reasonable. I just think theres enough examples in the world that people from all walks of life have the capacity to show pure compassion at the heat of the moment, thats pure instinct. I just dont thinks that sort of compassion is divided along political lines or any other beliefs the person may have
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Kazi1212 posted...

Ok. Is there any other way to evaluate your claim that conservatives wouldnt do this as much as liberals? How do you measure compassion? To me, I dont think it would matter whether the person was liberal or conservative. These are merely political ideologies that we entertain from the comfortability of our couches. But when shit hits the fan and you have to make a decision that impacts a life directly in front of your eyes, its much more visceral, and thus our political ideologies dont carry as much weight when deciding what to do. I guess what Im saying is political ideology is not necessarily correlated to character, surely you can agree someone can be equally a good person and do good deeds regardless of whether they are liberal or conservative?

But perhaps your view is far more reasonable. I just think theres enough examples in the world that people from all walks of life have the capacity to show pure compassion at the heat of the moment, thats pure instinct. I just dont thinks that sort of compassion is divided along political lines or any other beliefs the person may have

Of course everyone can do good deeds, but where you go wrong is thinking that your political ideology isn't correlated to your character. Your personality and temperament are the biggest indicators of your political affiliation.

And I guess I need to amend my statement, I said most conservatives wouldn't while most liberals would. That's wrong. The correct way of stating is more liberals would than conservatives.

But compassion is quite literally divided along political lines, this is quite clearly detailed in modern psychology. Conservative people skew far more towards orderliness and conscientiousness whereas liberals skew more towards agreeableness and openness.

This guy explains it all very clearly and simply if you're actually interested in learning more about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwibFhqh5k0
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Kazi1212 posted...

nicklebro posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

nicklebro posted...

Most liberals would. Most conservatives wouldn't.

This isn't being disparaging against conservatives btw, its literally just stating the facts of the psychological differences between the two.

Do you think liberals also give more to charity to conservatives because of these psychological differences?

No, how much you give to charity is a far different subject and has many more determining factors than your political affiliation. I mean a lot of that can be a tax write off, so how compassionate you are won't even come into play for many rich charity donors. And those are the people who donate the most to charity. But taking a needy stranger into your home? That's pure compassion.

Ok. Is there any other way to evaluate your claim that conservatives wouldnt do this as much as liberals? How do you measure compassion? To me, I dont think it would matter whether the person was liberal or conservative. These are merely political ideologies that we entertain from the comfortability of our couches. But when shit hits the fan and you have to make a decision that impacts a life directly in front of your eyes, its much more visceral, and thus our political ideologies dont carry as much weight when deciding what to do, our instincts does. I guess what Im saying is political ideology is not necessarily correlated to character, surely you can agree someone can be equally a good person and do good deeds regardless of whether they are liberal or conservative?

But perhaps your view is far more reasonable. I just think theres enough examples in the world that people from all walks of life have the capacity to show pure compassion at the heat of the moment, thats pure instinct. I just dont thinks that sort of compassion is divided along political lines or any other beliefs the person may have

You sweet summer child
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Ill look up the video, watching the championship game atm. I just dont think when you see a child suffering in front of your eyes its gonna matter what your political affliliation is
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Kazi1212 posted...

Ill look up the video, watching the championship game atm. I just dont think when you see a child suffering in front of your eyes its gonna matter what your political affliliation is

Depends on if the child has light or dark skin
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Kazi1212 posted...

Ill look up the video, watching the championship game atm. I just dont think when you see a child suffering in front of your eyes its gonna matter what your political affliliation is

can't believe he missed that! Tua went to my highschool btw, long before I did though.

but "child suffering in front of your eyes" is a bit of a stretch when asking if you'd take a refugee into your home. What if they're a young or middle aged man? What if its a family? You can already see ITT tons of conservatives saying no, and thats because conservatives are far more inclined to have restrictive borders, and that goes for more than just things like our country's border btw. While liberals are more inclined to an open and free flow of information. Both have their pros and cons and neither is wrong nor right in every circumstance. Its why we have both points of view, we need them both.

Really man Jordan Peterson explains this so well and I recommend everyone look up as much as you can about him. He did some interviews with Joe Rogan if you listen to podcasts, they're straight cash homie.
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das mah boi
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SpiralDrift posted...

even if it was a race I don't particularly like.

go on...

I'd be looking into my options to leave the country if that happened.
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nicklebro posted...

Tua went to my highschool btw, long before I did though.

..um Tagovailoa is a true freshmen you're saying you were in middle school last year?

iClockwork posted...

nicklebro posted...

Tua went to my highschool btw, long before I did though.

..um Tagovailoa is a true freshmen you're saying you were in middle school last year?

No. sorry got it backwards.
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Same school as Marcus Mariota too. I'm pretty sure he was class of 09 but I was class of 05.
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Yes. You see, I have a very particular set of skills. Skills that I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people who commit genocide.
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