Current Events > I just had someone complain about the woman who sued McDonald's for hot coffee

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How do people still not know that was a legitimate lawsuit with McDonald's running a smear campaign to save public image?

Oh yeah. It was like third degree burns wasn't it?

gafemaqs posted...

Oh yeah. It was like third degree burns wasn't it?

Yup. The coffee was extremely overheated, and the woman was only looking for them to cover her medical costs, not to make money.

It's coffee. Coffee is hot.

americans deny evolution

<insert moddable joke about natural selection here>
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SageHarpuia posted...

It's coffee. Coffee is hot.

She had third degree burns.

Coffee shouldn't be that hot.
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McDonald's has one of the best marketing departments in the world. The things they've done are amazing.
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You think the average person researches things they whine about?
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People still throw this out there all the time as THE example of a frivolous lawsuit

Shows how easy it is to spread misinformation
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I think the difference is between instant coffee drinkers and coffee maker drinkers. Cause the former is use to coffee always being hot as fuck at first.
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gafemaqs posted...

Oh yeah. It was like third degree burns wasn't it?

The shit fused her thighs together.
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IIRC, the temperature of the coffee was around 190 degrees (Fahrenheit) So around 88 Celsius

Water boils at 212 F

Mcdonalds had been selling coffee that was close to boiling.
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Because they're fucking idiots.

Exhibit A:
SageHarpuia posted...

It's coffee. Coffee is hot.

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dolomedes posted...

OctilIery posted...

How do people still not know that was a legitimate lawsuit with McDonald's running a smear campaign to save public image?

americans deny evolution and support trump how is this surprising?

there's always that guy that uses even the most innocuous topic to whinge about trump.

Their coffee is always still hot af. If you don't throw a few ice cubes in, you'll be drinking it about an hour after you buy it.
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Adam Ruins Everything did a good summary;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9DXSCpcz9E

It should be flat out illegal to sell coffee at a drive up window.

dolomedes posted...

eggcorn posted...

there's always that guy that uses even the most innocuous topic to whinge about trump.

who's whining?

I believe he said 'whinging'.

I took an intro to criminal justice class for an elective recently, and someone brought up the case as an example of stupid lawsuits, and I was waiting for the teacher to correct them, and she didn't, she agreed with them. Somehow she didn't know either.

I never willingly participate in classes, but that's one of the handful of times where I spoke up to correct them.
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Dash_Harber posted...

dolomedes posted...

eggcorn posted...

there's always that guy that uses even the most innocuous topic to whinge about trump.

who's whining?

I believe he said 'whinging'.

I hate it when LIBERALS just whinge about Trump 24/7. Sad!
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OctilIery posted...

McDonald's running a smear campaign

McDonald's didn't run shit. Where'd you pull that from?
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JustMonika posted...

OctilIery posted...

McDonald's running a smear campaign

McDonald's didn't run shit. Where'd you pull that from?

lol you must not be familiar with corporate lawyers
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CaptainCrunch posted...

IIRC, the temperature of the coffee was around 190 degrees (Fahrenheit) So around 88 Celsius

Water boils at 212 F

Mcdonalds had been selling coffee that was close to boiling.

Save the facts. People tend to believe what they want to.

Derp, no one has ever touched a Intro to Culinary book, otherwise you'd realize that 180-195 is the perfect water temp to brew coffee.

HiddenRoar posted...

Derp, no one has ever touched a Intro to Culinary book, otherwise you'd realize that 180-195 is the perfect water temp to brew coffee.

Brew, not serve. Fucking genius.
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dave_is_slick posted...

HiddenRoar posted...

Derp, no one has ever touched a Intro to Culinary book, otherwise you'd realize that 180-195 is the perfect water temp to brew coffee.

Brew, not serve. Fucking genius.

What is the temperature of fresh brewed coffee?

Wasssup Now posted...

dave_is_slick posted...

HiddenRoar posted...

Derp, no one has ever touched a Intro to Culinary book, otherwise you'd realize that 180-195 is the perfect water temp to brew coffee.

Brew, not serve. Fucking genius.

What is the temperature of fresh brewed coffee?

Not "third-degree burns" hot.
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JustMonika posted...

OctilIery posted...

McDonald's running a smear campaign

McDonald's didn't run shit. Where'd you pull that from?

It isn't just McDonald's, bit many corporations who push the idea that frivolous lawsuits are rampant. McDonald's pushed the story that she was just a stupid woman who burned herself, to distract from the fact that they were at fault.

Wasssup Now posted...

dave_is_slick posted...

HiddenRoar posted...

Derp, no one has ever touched a Intro to Culinary book, otherwise you'd realize that 180-195 is the perfect water temp to brew coffee.

Brew, not serve. Fucking genius.

What is the temperature of fresh brewed coffee?

http://injury.findlaw.com/product-liability/the-mcdonald-s-coffee-cup-case-separating-mcfacts-from-mcfiction.html

McFact #1: McDonald's coffee was served at a temperature between 180 and 190 degrees Fahrenheit. McDonald's had long known that this was twenty to thirty degrees hotter than the coffee served at most other restaurants. In the ten years before the case, more than 700 people who were scalded by coffee burns made claims against the company. But McDonald's never lowered the temperature of its coffee.

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dave_is_slick posted...

HiddenRoar posted...

Derp, no one has ever touched a Intro to Culinary book, otherwise you'd realize that 180-195 is the perfect water temp to brew coffee.

Brew, not serve. Fucking genius.

If coffee is brewed at 180-195, and you're served one that's 160, that means it was sitting in the pot for X minutes to cool 20~ degrees.

Not exactly freshly brewed.

HiddenRoar posted...

If coffee is brewed at 180-195, and you're served one that's 160, that means it was sitting in the pot for X minutes to cool 20~ degrees.

Not exactly freshly brewed.

If the coffee is so hot that you can't even drink it until it cools down, why does it matter if you receive it immediately after it's brewed vs. 15 minutes later when it's at a more manageable temperature?
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HiddenRoar posted...

dave_is_slick posted...

HiddenRoar posted...

Derp, no one has ever touched a Intro to Culinary book, otherwise you'd realize that 180-195 is the perfect water temp to brew coffee.

Brew, not serve. Fucking genius.

If coffee is brewed at 180-195, and you're served one that's 160, that means it was sitting in the pot for X minutes to cool 20~ degrees.

Not exactly freshly brewed.

Brew at that temperature, absolutely. Serve, absolutely not.
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with how lawsuit happy this country is, I'm shocked that this is everyone's go to example when complaining about how often people sue. The coffee case was perfectly legitimate.
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Yeah, looking into the case more and seeing some of the pictures of her burns SHOULD make any normal person immediately change their mind.

But, like someone else said...

dolomedes posted...

americans deny evolution and support trump how is this surprising?

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Headlines go a lot farther than substance
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mew4ever posted...

with how lawsuit happy this country is, I'm shocked that this is everyone's go to example when complaining about how often people sue. The coffee case was perfectly legitimate.

Actually frivolous lawsuits are heavily on the decline, and have been for awhile.

markconigliaro posted...

I took an intro to criminal justice class for an elective recently, and someone brought up the case as an example of stupid lawsuits, and I was waiting for the teacher to correct them, and she didn't, she agreed with them. Somehow she didn't know either.

I never willingly participate in classes, but that's one of the handful of times where I spoke up to correct them.

No doubt they mocked her and her lawsuit. I'm interested in what their response once after they showed themselves up...?
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it did start from a dumb premise. Spill your food on yourself and sue the restaurant is almost exactly a metaphor for how lawsuit happy America is
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Never seen the pics but from I heard her genitals were melted.

3rd degree burns on the thighs and genitals that nearly resulted in death. Horrible fate to have in life.
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Zikten posted...

Never seen the pics but from I heard her genitals were melted.

If I remember right, you could see bone.
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From what I remember the lid wasn't properly fastened and the coffee was boiling hot.
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SageHarpuia posted...

It's coffee. Coffee is hot.

americans deny evolution

<insert moddable joke about natural selection here>

It was too hot, and McDonald's should have just covered that poor woman's medical expenses and put it to bed
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Zikten posted...

Never seen the pics but from I heard her genitals were melted.

Holy shit. That's some hot coffee
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SusanGreenEyes posted...

From what I remember the lid wasn't properly fastened and the coffee was boiling hot.

Yeah. They had pulled over into a parking spot and the lady, in the passenger seat, was going to take the top off and put sugar or whatever in it. Lid wasn't on secure enough, spilled into her lap, and like others said, melted her shit. McDonalds had a history of complaints and lawsuits about how hot the coffee was, so they knew... they just continued doing it. She also didn't sue for that much, she just wanted medical expenses paid, a jury is the one who awarded her the millions. So the notion that someone can "just spill coffee in their lap while driving and get millions!" is completely wrong.
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Paragon21XX posted...

HiddenRoar posted...

dave_is_slick posted...

HiddenRoar posted...

Derp, no one has ever touched a Intro to Culinary book, otherwise you'd realize that 180-195 is the perfect water temp to brew coffee.

Brew, not serve. Fucking genius.

If coffee is brewed at 180-195, and you're served one that's 160, that means it was sitting in the pot for X minutes to cool 20~ degrees.

Not exactly freshly brewed.

Brew at that temperature, absolutely. Serve, absolutely not.

There are still alot of places that advertise "fresh brewed coffee". Should kind of be illegal with what I'm seeing here.

Wasssup Now posted...

There are still alot of places that advertise "fresh brewed coffee". Should kind of be illegal with what I'm seeing here.

Yes, those sick bastards not serving coffee that could mutilate you if you spill it.
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pegusus123456 posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

It's coffee. Coffee is hot.

She had third degree burns.

Coffee shouldn't be that hot.

And yet there are still no laws requiring coffee to be under a certain temperature. Sounds like the lawsuit didn't really target food safety reform
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OctilIery posted...

gafemaqs posted...

Oh yeah. It was like third degree burns wasn't it?

Yup. The coffee was extremely overheated, and the woman was only looking for them to cover her medical costs, not to make money.

You know that the coffee they make TODAY is still that hot, right?

She spilled it while trying to pour it into her own cup, while driving. She deserved to be burned for being such a stupid human being.
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