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FigureOfSpeech
12/25/17 7:55:54 PM
#51:


kislev posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
kislev posted...
Don't get me wrong, White nationalists are NOT white supremacists or racists. But since Whites will be a minority by 2050, is it so wrong to preserve...

Preserve what specifically.


Our culture and way of life


Which is what? I've been white for just about 35 years and I've never had access to what this even means.
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SGT_Conti
12/25/17 7:58:11 PM
#52:


I can understand if someone said Dutch culture or German culture or French culture, but "white" is just so ill-defined to the point where it's practically a meaningless term when discussing culture. Is white culture in the US the same as in Poland? Russia? Go and tell the Finnish and Russians they're the same.
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a42ozslushie
12/25/17 7:58:49 PM
#53:


einegutePerson posted...
kislev posted...
White nationalists are NOT white supremacists or racists.

lol ok

the serious answer is that white people are in no danger of being displaced, population-wise or culturally, and so it's pretty obvious what their outspoken "nationalism" is about

lmfao pledging nationalism to a color instead of your nation

Your spoiler tag is wrong. Europe is currently being invaded by Arabs under the guise of "refugees". America is becoming a culturally mixed nation, which the founding fathers would find abhorrent. The mayor London is an Arab. With democracy and immigration, it is only a matter of time until Europeans are a minority in their own governments.
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kislev
12/25/17 7:59:17 PM
#54:


FigureOfSpeech posted...
kislev posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
kislev posted...
Don't get me wrong, White nationalists are NOT white supremacists or racists. But since Whites will be a minority by 2050, is it so wrong to preserve...

Preserve what specifically.


Our culture and way of life


Which is what? I've been white for just about 35 years and I've never had access to what this even means.


Greek culture,Germanic culture,Nordic Culture,Celtic Culture and of course Romance Culture
We have contributed alot to the world in arts,music,entertainment,philosphy and many many more things
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Kaname_Madoka
12/25/17 7:59:52 PM
#55:


a42ozslushie posted...
America is becoming a culturally mixed nation, which the founding fathers would find abhorrent.

Maybe they shouldn't have stolen land from the aboriginals.
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a42ozslushie
12/25/17 8:00:53 PM
#56:


Kaname_Madoka posted...
a42ozslushie posted...
America is becoming a culturally mixed nation, which the founding fathers would find abhorrent.

Maybe they shouldn't have stolen land from the aboriginals.

I never said anything about that. I am just saying his statement that white culture will not be displaced is 100% factually incorrect.
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AmonAmarth
12/25/17 8:02:34 PM
#57:


GunmaN1905 posted...
I don't think there's a such thing as white nationalist.
It's just nationalist.
You Americans just made up the white part yourselves.
For example the recent refugee situation in Europe.
Why would any European country, especially a smaller one, want anything to do with those refugees that don't contribute to anything useful in any way?
Hell, most of them were 18-60yo male deserters who ran away and just cause trouble.
If people in those countries ran like those deserters did, you'd have Ottoman Empire in Berlin right now.
Actually, western EU countries are turning into that already.


correct, white is a "racial category" most found in the Americas.
observe the changes the white term has undergone in the US every couple decades.
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Kasperia
12/25/17 8:04:44 PM
#58:


a42ozslushie posted...
einegutePerson posted...
kislev posted...
White nationalists are NOT white supremacists or racists.

lol ok

the serious answer is that white people are in no danger of being displaced, population-wise or culturally, and so it's pretty obvious what their outspoken "nationalism" is about

lmfao pledging nationalism to a color instead of your nation

Your spoiler tag is wrong. Europe is currently being invaded by Arabs under the guise of "refugees". America is becoming a culturally mixed nation, which the founding fathers would find abhorrent. The mayor London is an Arab. With democracy and immigration, it is only a matter of time until Europeans are a minority in their own governments.


Please don't tell me you actually believe all this propaganda, do you? "Invade" lol. I'm pretty sure you know who are the people behind the curtain, pulling the strings. They've been doing it since 9/11.
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littlebro07
12/25/17 8:05:10 PM
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a42ozslushie
12/25/17 8:06:33 PM
#60:


Kasperia posted...
a42ozslushie posted...
einegutePerson posted...
kislev posted...
White nationalists are NOT white supremacists or racists.

lol ok

the serious answer is that white people are in no danger of being displaced, population-wise or culturally, and so it's pretty obvious what their outspoken "nationalism" is about

lmfao pledging nationalism to a color instead of your nation

Your spoiler tag is wrong. Europe is currently being invaded by Arabs under the guise of "refugees". America is becoming a culturally mixed nation, which the founding fathers would find abhorrent. The mayor London is an Arab. With democracy and immigration, it is only a matter of time until Europeans are a minority in their own governments.


Please don't tell me you actually believe all this propaganda, do you? "Invade" lol. I'm pretty sure you know who are the people behind the curtain, pulling the strings. They've been doing it since 9/11.

Yes. they are invading. You do realize that Anglo-Saxons of 100 years ago would be petrified that the mayor of their capital is of a different race, right? The founding fathers would be horrified that a man of African descent was president.
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a42ozslushie
12/25/17 8:07:33 PM
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And yes, there are people in the background pulling the strings. Unless you're willing to accept the fact that Europeans were the most racist group of people and then suddenly wanted to accept all cultures in the span of a century or two.
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metralo
12/25/17 8:08:44 PM
#62:


einegutePerson posted...
kislev posted...
When did i say i dont like other races?

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kislev
12/25/17 8:09:00 PM
#63:


a42ozslushie posted...
And yes, there are people in the background pulling the strings. Unless you're willing to accept the fact that Europeans were the most group of people and then suddenly wanted to accept all cultures in the span of a century or two.


Its also illegal to insult them, just think about that. We mention them here and surely we would be banned on the spot
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Dash_Harber
12/25/17 8:12:51 PM
#64:


kislev posted...
White nationalists are NOT white supremacists or racists.


Debatable. If you think that you race has a specific right to control a specific portion of land that they didn't originate on, it's sort of leads to a whole lot of other issues that are not compatible with an egalitarian ideal.

kislev posted...
But since Whites will be a minority by 2050, is it so wrong to preserve...


The problem is an absolutely warped view of race. They define white as pure blooded white, whereas anyone who has even a drop of non-northern European blood is considered other. It doesn't matter if you are 90% white, if you have one drop of non-white blood, you are 'mixed' and therefore fall into the same category as minorities.

Secondly, there is nothing to 'preserve'. Cultures don't exist in a vacuum. The cultures they hold dear are actually amalgamations of other cultures that mixed over the years. I often take England as an example.

In prehistoric times, the islands were settled by Celts. Then you have the Romans. Then you have Saxons, the Angles, and the Jutes. Then you have the Danes and the Norweigan. Then you have the French (Normans) under William the Bastard/Conqueror (who gave many of the cities their modern names and was legendarily descended from the Danish raider Rollo). Then, during the colonial era, you have a mass influx of Asians, Africans, Indians, and some New Worlders. So why is white British culture defined at an arbitrary mid-20th century cut off? America is no different.

The fact is that the majority of major cultures in the world today are either amalgamations of many different cultures that evolved out of waves of immigration or are actually further subdivided so much that most outsiders can't even tell them apart (such as the 47 or so ethnic groups in China).

Then you run into the problem that they don't understand what they are 'preserving'. Do you do the exact same things as your parents? Have the same traditions? Same technology? Same hobbies? Of course not. Even looking from generation to generation there are some massive differences. If tradition and culture are really the most important thing, why aren't they also campaigning against things like the internet or modern cars or modern medicine? It is demonstrable that when they say culture and traditions, they are simply just conveniently accepting the changes they want to, and condemning any that originated from any other place. It's very thinly veiled xenophobia.
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Kasperia
12/25/17 8:13:40 PM
#65:


a42ozslushie posted...
Kasperia posted...
a42ozslushie posted...
einegutePerson posted...
kislev posted...
White nationalists are NOT white supremacists or racists.

lol ok

the serious answer is that white people are in no danger of being displaced, population-wise or culturally, and so it's pretty obvious what their outspoken "nationalism" is about

lmfao pledging nationalism to a color instead of your nation

Your spoiler tag is wrong. Europe is currently being invaded by Arabs under the guise of "refugees". America is becoming a culturally mixed nation, which the founding fathers would find abhorrent. The mayor London is an Arab. With democracy and immigration, it is only a matter of time until Europeans are a minority in their own governments.


Please don't tell me you actually believe all this propaganda, do you? "Invade" lol. I'm pretty sure you know who are the people behind the curtain, pulling the strings. They've been doing it since 9/11.

Yes. they are invading. You do realize that Anglo-Saxons of 100 years ago would be petrified that the mayor of their capital is of a different race, right? The founding fathers would be horrified that a man of African descent was president.


You are allowing yourself to be brainwashed by their propaganda. They control the media, especially outlets like the BBC, where they always give way too much undue attention to any matters related to race or religion. They want to create this atmosphere of xenophobia. The "Us Vs. Them" mentality. So, they can increase the support for the far-right and garner support for US interests in the Middle East. No one's "invading" Europe.
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Kasperia
12/25/17 8:16:11 PM
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*US/NATO interests
I hope you don't believe they invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and Syria for some noble crusade lol.
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FigureOfSpeech
12/25/17 8:31:26 PM
#67:


kislev posted...
FigureOfSpeech posted...
kislev posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
kislev posted...
Don't get me wrong, White nationalists are NOT white supremacists or racists. But since Whites will be a minority by 2050, is it so wrong to preserve...

Preserve what specifically.


Our culture and way of life


Which is what? I've been white for just about 35 years and I've never had access to what this even means.


Greek culture,Germanic culture,Nordic Culture,Celtic Culture and of course Romance Culture
We have contributed alot to the world in arts,music,entertainment,philosphy and many many more things


So we are supposed to preserve ALL of those? Because I don't know if fit into any of them. I'm white, but aside from that I don't have a cultural identity. My parents are just "white" and they aren't biological parents. I don't even know who those are and don't have any like... DNA information or whatever. What am I supposed to do? I know you're speaking in general terms, but if I'm going to be expected to contribute to your preservation efforts, I'm going to need to know how to do so specifically, because right now I feel like I'm in a big room with a bunch of people all running around doing stuff and I'm just standing there being all "wtf what am I supposed to be doing? I was just told to show up and wasn't given any further details."
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Bluebomber182
12/25/17 8:38:29 PM
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did this topic redirect me to stormfront?
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Dash_Harber
12/25/17 8:40:57 PM
#69:


kislev posted...
Germanic culture,Nordic Culture,


Technically speaking, the Norse were Germanic.
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kislev
12/25/17 8:41:50 PM
#70:


Dash_Harber posted...
kislev posted...
Germanic culture,Nordic Culture,


Technically speaking, the Norse were Germanic.


Nordic sometimes includes finns who arw not germanic though
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Dash_Harber
12/25/17 8:43:31 PM
#71:


kislev posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
kislev posted...
Germanic culture,Nordic Culture,


Technically speaking, the Norse were Germanic.


Nordic sometimes includes finns who arw not germanic though


No, the Finns are always considered part of the Finno-Ugric culture. They are actually linguistically linked to the people of the Steppes. I think you are thinking of the term Scandinavian, as that sometimes includes Finland and sometimes doesn't.
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Bluebomber182
12/25/17 8:45:25 PM
#72:


sadiq kahn aint an arab. he was born in tooting england @a42ozslushie
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kislev
12/25/17 8:45:33 PM
#73:


Dash_Harber posted...
kislev posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
kislev posted...
Germanic culture,Nordic Culture,


Technically speaking, the Norse were Germanic.


Nordic sometimes includes finns who arw not germanic though


No, the Finns are always considered part of the Finno-Ugric culture. They are actually linguistically linked to the people of the Steppes. I think you are thinking of the term Scandinavian, as that sometimes includes Finland and sometimes doesn't.


Finns have been in europe for atleast 6000 years, they may have come from Siberia yes but they are more European to me than the "refugees" from the middle east
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Bluebomber182
12/25/17 8:47:24 PM
#74:


you keep putting refugees in quotes why dont you say what you really mean
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Dash_Harber
12/25/17 8:49:22 PM
#75:


kislev posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
kislev posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
kislev posted...
Germanic culture,Nordic Culture,


Technically speaking, the Norse were Germanic.


Nordic sometimes includes finns who arw not germanic though


No, the Finns are always considered part of the Finno-Ugric culture. They are actually linguistically linked to the people of the Steppes. I think you are thinking of the term Scandinavian, as that sometimes includes Finland and sometimes doesn't.


Finns have been in europe for atleast 6000 years, they may have come from Siberia yes but they are more European to me than the "refugees" from the middle east


I'm honestly not sure what the fuck that has to do with what we are talking about.

You stated that Germanic and Nordic culture were two different things. I pointed out that Nordic is Germanic. You said it's not because it sometimes included Finnish culture. I pointed out that was wrong, and that the Finns are never (at least not in my experience or academic study) are never considered Nordic or Germanic. You came back with a No True Scotsman argument about how the Finns aren't European enough for you.
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Antifar
12/25/17 8:51:30 PM
#76:


White nationalism is the misguided belief that the interests of Don Blankenship and the white coal miners of Appalachia are in any way aligned. It's a ludicrous notion that Jeff Bezos and the middle-aged warehouse worker in Michigan have something in common, and that the former wouldn't just as soon grind the latter into paste. Jamie Dimon is not on your side, and you don't deserve credit for Beethoven's Ninth Symphony.
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kislev
12/25/17 10:52:47 PM
#78:


CrimsonRage posted...
You chose to make a race-baiting shit topic on Christmas.

You have to live with that for the rest of your life, TC.


Im a little drunk and angry
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CaptainCrunch
12/25/17 10:55:31 PM
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Nationalism is idiotic regardless of the race supporting it.
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Dash_Harber
12/25/17 10:57:16 PM
#80:


kislev posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
You chose to make a race-baiting shit topic on Christmas.

You have to live with that for the rest of your life, TC.


Im a little drunk and angry


... at non-whites?
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NinjaBreakfast
12/26/17 5:49:04 AM
#81:


I love how a topic asking why white nationalists are considered bad is still up while a topic saying haha white people don't like spicy food gets deleted
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kislev
12/26/17 6:09:38 AM
#82:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
I love how a topic asking why white nationalists are considered bad is still up while a topic saying haha white people don't like spicy food gets deleted


Someones salty
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einegutePerson
12/26/17 6:29:43 AM
#83:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
I love how a topic asking why white nationalists are considered bad is still up while a topic saying haha white people don't like spicy food gets deleted

because some of the moderators only agree with one of these topics
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NINExATExSEVEN
12/26/17 6:47:02 AM
#84:


Don't worry tc. Nationalism is rising all over Europe and it's a direct response to people waking up over the reality of what mass immigration is and what it does. The rise is so swift that Europe is trying to silence people by making it against the law to criticize what's going on and even hides crimes committed by all these migrants.

There is no stop to this rise of self interests for Europeans and it'll only continue to grow as more people start being affected. We almost had La pen in France get elected but they were still a little hesitant. Just a few more years and people will become desperate to vote for leaders like her.

Never ever underestimate the will and force of a people who have everything to lose. These progressives and their open borders utopia are numbered. It will end sooner or later once we get control of our borders.
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itachi15243
12/26/17 6:50:06 AM
#85:


What exactly defines white culture and what measures do you believe define it as a race, and what aspects of that alleged race do you believe need to be preserved, specifically?

For instance, I am Italian. I would always like the vast history of my people, the food, culture, language, the land, identity, pride, and way of life to be preserved.

Being Italian I'm also considered white, and I see very little culture as far as "white" goes in America.
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NinjaBreakfast
12/26/17 6:53:03 AM
#86:


NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Don't worry tc. Nationalism is rising all over Europe and it's a direct response to people waking up over the reality of what mass immigration is and what it does. The rise is so swift that Europe is trying to silence people by making it against the law to criticize what's going on and even hides crimes committed by all these migrants.

There is no stop to this rise of self interests for Europeans and it'll only continue to grow as more people start being affected. We almost had La pen in France get elected but they were still a little hesitant. Just a few more years and people will become desperate to vote for leaders like her.

Never ever underestimate the will and force of a people who have everything to lose. These progressives and their open borders utopia are numbered. It will end sooner or later once we get control of our borders.

lmao i love how deranged all you American nazis sound
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LightningAce11
12/26/17 6:59:51 AM
#87:


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Doom_Art
12/26/17 7:03:27 AM
#88:


@NINExATExSEVEN posted...
We almost had La pen in France get elected

Didn't she get like >30% of the vote?

Didn't she literally come in third place, behind "No one/Other"?
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spincr
12/26/17 7:07:10 AM
#89:


Because everything that created civilization as we know it today is bad for some reason.
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NINExATExSEVEN
12/26/17 7:09:01 AM
#90:


Doom_Art posted...
@NINExATExSEVEN posted...
We almost had La pen in France get elected

Didn't she get like >30% of the vote?

Didn't she literally come in third place, behind "No one/Other"?


Yea and that's a lot for someone with her veiws to get. It's only going to grow every year.
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NinjaBreakfast
12/26/17 7:11:13 AM
#91:


spincr posted...
In 2000, Norad had 67 Intercepts, 100% accuracy. On 9/11 they failed 4 times in 1 day. In 2015 over 162 000 refugee's entered Sweden, 494 of them got a job.

o_O
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kislev
12/26/17 7:11:46 AM
#92:


NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Don't worry tc. Nationalism is rising all over Europe and it's a direct response to people waking up over the reality of what mass immigration is and what it does. The rise is so swift that Europe is trying to silence people by making it against the law to criticize what's going on and even hides crimes committed by all these migrants.

There is no stop to this rise of self interests for Europeans and it'll only continue to grow as more people start being affected. We almost had La pen in France get elected but they were still a little hesitant. Just a few more years and people will become desperate to vote for leaders like her.

Never ever underestimate the will and force of a people who have everything to lose. These progressives and their open borders utopia are numbered. It will end sooner or later once we get control of our borders.


I really hope this will bring all of Europe together we need to be united to stop this once and for all
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spincr
12/26/17 7:14:36 AM
#93:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
spincr posted...
In 2000, Norad had 67 Intercepts, 100% accuracy. On 9/11 they failed 4 times in 1 day. In 2015 over 162 000 refugee's entered Sweden, 494 of them got a job.

o_O

Check out how lovely Sweden is nowadays. Only 52 nogo zones.
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kislev
12/26/17 7:15:21 AM
#94:


spincr posted...
NinjaBreakfast posted...
spincr posted...
In 2000, Norad had 67 Intercepts, 100% accuracy. On 9/11 they failed 4 times in 1 day. In 2015 over 162 000 refugee's entered Sweden, 494 of them got a job.

o_O

Check out how lovely Sweden is nowadays. Only 52 nogo zones.


London alone has like 30
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NinjaBreakfast
12/26/17 7:16:36 AM
#95:


Love all the clueless Americans who have never left their country telling Europeans how desolate Europe is
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kislev
12/26/17 7:17:23 AM
#96:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
Love all the clueless Americans who have never left their country telling Europeans how desolate Europe is


Talking about urself?
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NINExATExSEVEN
12/26/17 7:17:51 AM
#97:


itachi15243 posted...
What exactly defines white culture and what measures do you believe define it as a race, and what aspects of that alleged race do you believe need to be preserved, specifically?

For instance, I am Italian. I would always like the vast history of my people, the food, culture, language, the land, identity, pride, and way of life to be preserved.

Being Italian I'm also considered white, and I see very little culture as far as "white" goes in America.


See you get it. That won't be a thing though if Italians become a minority in Italy. All that would change and your homeland would no longer even belong to ethnic Italians there.

Sure Italians would still exist but not in the way where they could point to any country anymore as their own with their own interests.
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NINExATExSEVEN
12/26/17 7:19:15 AM
#98:


kislev posted...
spincr posted...
NinjaBreakfast posted...
spincr posted...
In 2000, Norad had 67 Intercepts, 100% accuracy. On 9/11 they failed 4 times in 1 day. In 2015 over 162 000 refugee's entered Sweden, 494 of them got a job.

o_O

Check out how lovely Sweden is nowadays. Only 52 nogo zones.


London alone has like 30


London isn't even British anymore lol. They're minorities in their OWN historic city!
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NINExATExSEVEN
12/26/17 7:22:26 AM
#99:


kislev posted...
NinjaBreakfast posted...
Love all the clueless Americans who have never left their country telling Europeans how desolate Europe is


Talking about urself?


Apparently the world wide web doesn't exist so we can't know anything about Europe. It's actually a utopia like they say. No terrorist attacks, no increase in sexual assaults, no increase in crime, nobody walking around in protests yelling "sharia will come to you", no no go zones at all.

Just a utopia tc. All that is "fake news".
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kislev
12/26/17 7:25:45 AM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
kislev posted...
NinjaBreakfast posted...
Love all the clueless Americans who have never left their country telling Europeans how desolate Europe is


Talking about urself?


Apparently the world wide web doesn't exist so we can't know anything about Europe. It's actually a utopia like they say. No terrorist attacks, no increase in sexual assaults, no increase in crime, nobody walking around in protests yelling "sharia will come to you", no no go zones at all.

Just a utopia tc. All that is "fake news".


A poll in germany showed 30% wouldnt want a turkish neiughbour
And 50% wouldnt want an arab (syrian) neiughbour
Pegda rises every year becuase people are sick of having to pay for these immigrants
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