Current Events > So my GTX 1070 is now out of date..... great

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$700 down the drain
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It wasn't the best video card on the market when you bought it originally. Wtf

C, final answer
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Could have gotten a ps4 and Xbox 1
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SaccharineSmile posted...

Could have gotten a ps4 and Xbox 1

Lies.

I have a 1070 and I couldn't have gotten either for what I paid.
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You're running win 10 32 bit?

LOLOLOL

edit: Also, what do you mean 700$? 1070 never cost that much.
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out of date but will still be able to play new games 10 years in the future.

this most likely does not apply to any of the current gen consoles(on account of them not getting any cuz you know... gotta force people towards the next-gen and all).
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JustMonika posted...

SaccharineSmile posted...

Could have gotten a ps4 and Xbox 1

Lies.

I have a 1070 and I couldn't have gotten either for what I paid.

I don't think you can get them new for under $450 right now with mining and everything. Both base models were available for under $200 around Black Friday.

AsucaHayashi posted...

out of date but will still be able to play new games 10 years in the future.

Yeah, just like people are still playing new games with their 8600's.
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The 1070 is more than enough.
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xBloodBrotherx posted...

Yeah, just like people are still playing new games with their 8600's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb3-m94LaRo

had to scour a bit to find a 2017 game but tales of berseria in the last parts was released for PC in january.

also, keep in mind there are an absolute shit ton of 2017 indies that easily require less than the 8600 to run and play well.

so yes, people can in fact, and most likely do, play new games from 2017 that don't require power beyond what the 8600 provides.

meanwhile the 360/wii/wii u are dead in the water with no new releases while ps3's last big swan song was persona 5.
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xBloodBrotherx posted...

I don't think you can get them new for under $450 right now with mining and everything. Both base models were available for under $200 around Black Friday.

Well this was 1 or 2 Novembers ago now.
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Should've mined crypto with it and it would've paid for itself and its replacement

AsucaHayashi posted...

xBloodBrotherx posted...

Yeah, just like people are still playing new games with their 8600's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb3-m94LaRo

had to scour a bit to find a 2017 game but tales of berseria in the last parts was released for PC in january.

also, keep in mind there are an absolute shit ton of 2017 indies that easily require less than the 8600 to run and play well.

so yes, people can in fact, and most likely do, play new games from 2017 that don't require power beyond what the 8600 provides.

meanwhile the 360/wii/wii u are dead in the water with no new releases while ps3's last big swan song was persona 5.

I'll start with pointing out a glaring issue with those benchmarks within the context of what we're taking about, which is that while the GPU is from 2007, the rest of the system is significantly newer using an i7 7700k and 16gn of 1600mhz DDR3. Try keeping it as a straight up 2007 build with a Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Quad and like 4gb of DDR2 at 667mhz-800mhz and those gems get even harder to run. So you're still dealing with a situation where the PC needs at least some expensive components changes to even try to maintain that already borderline playability. So try to upgrade from a C2Q to an i5 CPU and you're not only out over a couple hundred for the CPU, but you also need a new motherboard with the proper socket, and new RAM that's compatible with that motherboard in the event that it needs a different gen that isn't compatible. Which in that case you might as well just throw in a GPU too since that's the only bottleneck keeping you from playing newer titles as well. Or you can do it the opposite and try throwing a new GPU in but leaving the rest, but if I bought a good mid range CPU like the 1070 today and put it on a C2Q system with 4gb of RAM everything else would be bottlenecking it to hell needing a new everything else anyways for playing new stuff.
Neverminding the the fact that even in that video, while you can get averages that indicate playability or near playability, the lows, frame timing, and stutter can can get so bad using older hardware like that where it becomes pretty much unplayable even if the average fps is okay on paper.

Finally there's just the simple disingenuous nature of saying "a GTX 1070 will still be able to play new games in 10 years" and then only mentioning indies 99% of people don't care about. Yeah, there's always going to be some low spec indie game that's retro, point and click, a visual novel, etc. But that's not the shit most people are talking about or wanting to play or what they're wanting when they say they want to still be able to play new games in 10 years. I might as well just say the 360 can still play new games after 12 years and counting because it still gets FIFA and shit. Yeah, it's technically a new game that it's able to play after 12 years but I'm sure you see the problem there...

Don't get me wrong, PC is the better platform by far and anyone with the ability to should go with that over consoles, but there's no need to be disingenuous and misleading about it's capabilities as a platform. There's not any platform where you're going to be playing the all the big AAA games at good settings with decade+ old hardware without dropping money into upgrades. Shit, even getting an i9, Titan XP, 64gb DDR4 system and overclocking everything with liquid cooling is still going to struggle with all the big games a decade from now, let alone a rational mid range system.
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JustMonika posted...

xBloodBrotherx posted...

I don't think you can get them new for under $450 right now with mining and everything. Both base models were available for under $200 around Black Friday.

Well this was 1 or 2 Novembers ago now.

It's a good thing you got one last November because that's right before they started inflating and then by about February they've been jacked up and haven't come down since.
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Lol @ console troller. $700? Horseshit, I paid $230 and I'm in fucking Canada (Everything is more expensive here).
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Id rather pay more to play games at 60 FPS with better graphics than a crappy 30 FPS console version.
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WaffIeElite posted...

Lol @ console troller. $700? Horseshit, I paid $230 and I'm in fucking Canada (Everything is more expensive here).

How could you get a 1070 for less than the launch MSRP of a 1060 6GB and $150 less then the MSRP for a 1070 even before the mining price hikes let alone with the deflated Canadian dollar as well.
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I got a Asus 1080 strix for under $700 when it came out
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Im still playing games with my 680
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the GEX 1070

What? Videocards alone cost more than the entire console?
I mean I get that it is the superior platform but geez at what cost.
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Highly Evolved posted...

What? Videocards alone cost more than the entire console?
I mean I get that it is the superior platform but geez at what cost.

Don't buy into that shit. It's true you can buy the latest, bleeding edge tech and spend a small fortune on it.

In reality, you could spend $400-$500 on a PC and match or beat everything current gen consoles can do, with all the added flexibility a PC affords you including modding, user-made patches, etc. on top of being a fully featured desktop or laptop. If you really want a powerful machine, $1000-$1200 will get you hardware that can max or near max all of the latest games at 1080p 60fps with anti-aliasing and ambient occlusion, making their console counterparts look and run like crusty dog shit.

Spending more than that really isn't necessary unless you're a mindless performance enthusiast.
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Highly Evolved posted...

What? Videocards alone cost more than the entire console?
I mean I get that it is the superior platform but geez at what cost.

Well if you go by the newest thing you can find it will obviously cost you more than a console, but you don't need to get the latest and greatest in the same vein that you don't need to get the latest 8K TV or the newest 1000 dollars phone when you are more than comfortable with less than that.

The benefit of building your own machine is that you can choose what you need or what you want based on your budget and preference. There's definitely the option to buy a 2000 dollars graphics card, or heck even two or four of them if that's what you need, but there's also the option to buy a 100 dollars one.
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Yomi posted...

There's definitely the option to buy a 2000 dollars graphics card

Show me.
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Pepys Monster posted...

Yomi posted...

There's definitely the option to buy a 2000 dollars graphics card

Show me.

Well the new Titan V is like 3k. Not really meant for gaming though and I'm not sure if it would offer much over an XP strictly in gaming, but if you wanted to you could do it.
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Gamer99z posted...

Pepys Monster posted...

Yomi posted...

There's definitely the option to buy a 2000 dollars graphics card

Show me.

Well the new Titan V is like 3k. Not really meant for gaming though and I'm not sure if it would offer much over an XP strictly in gaming, but if you wanted to you could do it.

I didn't know Nvidia was still making Titans, lol.
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Pepys Monster posted...

Gamer99z posted...

Pepys Monster posted...

Yomi posted...

There's definitely the option to buy a 2000 dollars graphics card

Show me.

Well the new Titan V is like 3k. Not really meant for gaming though and I'm not sure if it would offer much over an XP strictly in gaming, but if you wanted to you could do it.

I didn't know Nvidia was still making Titans, lol.

Yeah, and the lineup is confusing as shit.
There was the Titan X released in March, 2015 that ran on Maxwell, then they released a Titan X in August, 2016 that was the successor that ran on Pascal so people unofficially dubbed it the Titan XP to differentiate it, then less than a year later in April of this year they released a something stupidly called the Titan Xp which was just an even better version of the regular Pascal X for more money, and now this month they released the Titan V for 3k that's the first card running on the new Volta architecture.

At this point they're refreshing their highest end tier products at a faster rate than their consumer level products. I really hope AMD gets their shit together in the high range of GPU's to give Nvidia some reason to get their shit together.
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GPU's will be dirt cheap once the crypto bubble pops.

xBloodBrotherx posted...

Try keeping it as a straight up 2007 build with a Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Quad and like 4gb of DDR2 at 667mhz-800mhz and those gems get even harder to run.

even if we're moving goalposts to include processor/ram it still doesn't change the facts in any significant way since C2D/quad processors and 4GB of ram can still run hundreds of games from this year alone.

never once was the argument about ALL games and never once was the argument about the most demanding games or bs "AAA" criteria.

I might as well just say the 360 can still play new games after 12 years and counting because it still gets FIFA and shit.

it wouldn't be disingenuous in the slightest since it still counts as a new game but as opposed to maybe 1-2 360 new games a year, the PC will be able to play hundreds.

and then only mentioning indies 99% of people don't care about.

>how to pull facts out of your ass 101

i truly feel sorry for you if you somehow find it more appealing to put your money towards SW battlefront 2(2017) as opposed to something like the sequel to "To the moon" called "Finding Paradise" released 2 weeks ago with a higher metacritic rating than BF2:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/337340/Finding_Paradise/

edit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_rm_96knCY

cuphead played on C2D/8600gt/2GB ram... another game that next to nobody apparently cares about despite winning game awards and million+ sales.
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