Current Events > So who the fuck is Snoke? (Star Wars spoilers)

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KazumaKiryu 12/16/17 6:54:37 PM #1:	This new big bad comes around last movie and we're left questioning who he is and where he came from. Now he just gets killed in an instant and it's like what the fuck, what was the point? Also I wish they weren't so hung up on "Wars" being part of the title. It's almost like they feel they need to double down on the war aspect of it, when really it's that universe that most of us are interested in in the first place. This movie felt maybe an hour too long because they just had to do endless battles that added nothing to the story. --- Just your bad luck... to run into me. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:892343653] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote>This new big bad comes around last movie and we're left questioning who he is and where he came from. Now he just gets killed in an instant and it's like what the fuck, what was the point? Also I wish they weren't so hung up on "Wars" being part of the title. It's almost like they feel they need to double down on the war aspect of it, when really it's that universe that most of us are interested in in the first place. This movie felt maybe an hour too long because they just had to do endless battles that added nothing to the story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 12/16/17 6:55:38 PM #2:	just some rando fuckboy <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:892343707] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote>just some rando fuckboy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilishe 12/16/17 6:56:02 PM #3:	Still wondering that. Still wondering how we went from the end of the Empire to the current situation. And it was a good movie anyway. --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ <cite>Ilishe posted [p:892343728] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote>Still wondering that. Still wondering how we went from the end of the Empire to the current situation. And it was a good movie anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Link43130 12/16/17 6:56:24 PM #4:	they were finally showing people that no, snoke was not the big bad and never was. it was always kylo. --- Steam/XBL/PSN: Link43130 <cite>Link43130 posted [p:892343743] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote>they were finally showing people that no, snoke was not the big bad and never was. it was always kylo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 12/16/17 6:57:46 PM #5:	Disney Star Wars is lame more at 11 --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:892343813] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote>Disney Star Wars is lame more at 11</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Parappa09 12/16/17 6:58:37 PM #6:	ledbowman posted... Disney Star Wars is lame more at 11 this is p much my attitude after watching TLJ --- http://i.imgur.com/us5qLQb.jpg http://beta.last.fm/user/Jay92Jay <cite>Parappa09 posted [p:892343859] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote><cite>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>Disney Star Wars is lame more at 11</quote> this is p much my attitude after watching TLJ</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 12/16/17 7:00:26 PM #7:	Ilishe posted... Still wondering that. Still wondering how we went from the end of the Empire to the current situation. And it was a good movie anyway. Right? That's the thing, like they totally skipped over the New Republic and the time of peace and prosperity they had and I have to wonder if it's because that isn't a WAR. I mean I can see a pretty damn great concept for an action movie where the first hour is all happiness and good times in this awesome galaxy before shit hits the fan and it eventually leads to the downfall of the Republic at the end. You know, that method works great for Jurassic Park and shit, but no we just gotta fast forward to the middle of the next war where they're a small band of rebels again. --- Just your bad luck... to run into me. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:892343957] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ilishe posted...</cite> <quote>Still wondering that. Still wondering how we went from the end of the Empire to the current situation. And it was a good movie anyway.</quote> Right? That's the thing, like they totally skipped over the New Republic and the time of peace and prosperity they had and I have to wonder if it's because that isn't a WAR. I mean I can see a pretty damn great concept for an action movie where the first hour is all happiness and good times in this awesome galaxy before shit hits the fan and it eventually leads to the downfall of the Republic at the end. You know, that method works great for Jurassic Park and shit, but no we just gotta fast forward to the middle of the next war where they're a small band of rebels again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dgb909 12/16/17 7:03:04 PM #8:	you dont need to know apparently --- People like coldplay and voted for the Nazis, you can't trust people. <cite>dgb909 posted [p:892344084] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote>you dont need to know apparently</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__aCEr__ 12/16/17 7:04:42 PM #9:	Supreme Leader Joke. <cite>__aCEr__ posted [p:892344171] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote>Supreme Leader Joke.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 12/16/17 7:06:23 PM #10:	He is SNOKE. An ugly Sith lord. We only got the backstory to Sideous in the prequels. <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:892344259] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote>He is SNOKE. An ugly Sith lord. We only got the backstory to Sideous in the prequels.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Looked gf 12/16/17 7:06:55 PM #11:	__aCEr__ posted... Supreme Leader Joke. --- http://i.imgur.com/otLaOxa.gifv <cite>Looked gf posted [p:892344289] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote><cite>__aCEr__ posted...</cite> <quote>Supreme Leader Joke.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 12/16/17 7:07:54 PM #12:	A waste of screen time. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:892344330] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote>A waste of screen time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wishy 12/16/17 7:09:36 PM #13:	Ammonitida posted... He is SNOKE. An ugly Sith lord. We only got the backstory to Sideous in the prequels. We didn't need backstory in the OT. Here we do because it's a sequel. --- ~Dr. Fishystick\| Welcome Back. http://i.imgur.com/z50xS2H.jpg <cite>Wishy posted [p:892344419] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>He is SNOKE. An ugly Sith lord. We only got the backstory to Sideous in the prequels.</quote> We didn't need backstory in the OT. Here we do because it's a sequel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJGrimReaper 12/16/17 7:11:17 PM #14:	Andy Serkis got gyped lol --- Big Apple, 3 A.M. http://i.imgur.com/CqukfNH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/JgG0NO0.jpg <cite>SSJGrimReaper posted [p:892344513] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote>Andy Serkis got gyped lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 12/16/17 7:12:11 PM #15:	Wishy posted... Ammonitida posted... He is SNOKE. An ugly Sith lord. We only got the backstory to Sideous in the prequels. We didn't need backstory in the OT. Here we do because it's a sequel. Who is to say that Disney won't produce a spinoff prequel that will cover his backstory? <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:892344557] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote><cite>Wishy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>He is SNOKE. An ugly Sith lord. We only got the backstory to Sideous in the prequels.</quote> We didn't need backstory in the OT. Here we do because it's a sequel.</quote> Who is to say that Disney won't produce a spinoff prequel that will cover his backstory?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 12/16/17 7:12:22 PM #16:	Ammonitida posted... He is SNOKE. An ugly Sith lord. We only got the backstory to Sideous in the prequels. A Sith Lord? He's just a dude who sits in a chair and yells at people. --- Just your bad luck... to run into me. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:892344562] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>He is SNOKE. An ugly Sith lord. We only got the backstory to Sideous in the prequels.</quote> A Sith Lord? He's just a dude who sits in a chair and yells at people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 12/16/17 7:13:20 PM #17:	Ammonitida posted... Wishy posted... Ammonitida posted... He is SNOKE. An ugly Sith lord. We only got the backstory to Sideous in the prequels. We didn't need backstory in the OT. Here we do because it's a sequel. Who is to say that Disney won't produce a spinoff prequel that will cover his backstory? Why should a spin-off be needed to establish basic character development? They have a term if that's needed: shit writing. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:892344604] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Wishy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>He is SNOKE. An ugly Sith lord. We only got the backstory to Sideous in the prequels.</quote> We didn't need backstory in the OT. Here we do because it's a sequel.</quote> Who is to say that Disney won't produce a spinoff prequel that will cover his backstory?</quote> Why should a spin-off be needed to establish basic character development? They have a term if that's needed: shit writing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wishy 12/16/17 7:13:21 PM #18:	Ammonitida posted... Who is to say that Disney won't produce a spinoff prequel that will cover his backstory? They certainly can but until then it's totally justified for us to wonder who the hell he is --- ~Dr. Fishystick\| Welcome Back. http://i.imgur.com/z50xS2H.jpg <cite>Wishy posted [p:892344605] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote> Who is to say that Disney won't produce a spinoff prequel that will cover his backstory?</quote> They certainly can but until then it's totally justified for us to wonder who the hell he is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJGrimReaper 12/16/17 7:14:15 PM #19:	"That's Snoke? That's a midget in a bathrobe!" --- Big Apple, 3 A.M. http://i.imgur.com/CqukfNH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/JgG0NO0.jpg <cite>SSJGrimReaper posted [p:892344649] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote>"That's Snoke? That's a midget in a bathrobe!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__aCEr__ 12/16/17 7:15:31 PM #20:	It does kind of feel like you're going to need to read a series of comic books or something if you want to know anything about the new characters. <cite>__aCEr__ posted [p:892344699] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote>It does kind of feel like you're going to need to read a series of comic books or something if you want to know anything about the new characters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 12/16/17 7:19:21 PM #21:	__aCEr__ posted... It does kind of feel like you're going to need to read a series of comic books or something if you want to know anything about the new characters. --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:892344889] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote><cite>__aCEr__ posted...</cite> <quote>It does kind of feel like you're going to need to read a series of comic books or something if you want to know anything about the new characters.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 12/16/17 7:19:45 PM #22:	They'll probably release a novelization of the movie with an extra chapter on him or something like that. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:892344905] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote>They'll probably release a novelization of the movie with an extra chapter on him or something like that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sphyx 12/16/17 7:22:19 PM #23:	I was actually happy with the way his part in the story panned out. He had become too reliant on being freakishly powerful in the force and let his guard slip while his attention was on Rey. But i am annoyed there was no explanation as to who he was, how he got there and why he's so powerful, all things which have clearly fascinated SW fans. At this stage it seems like everyone knows who he is in the story universe, so it's baffling that the audience is being denied that knowledge. --- You're so vain, You probably think this sig is about you. <cite>Sphyx posted [p:892345015] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote>I was actually happy with the way his part in the story panned out. He had become too reliant on being freakishly powerful in the force and let his guard slip while his attention was on Rey. But i am annoyed there was no explanation as to who he was, how he got there and why he's so powerful, all things which have clearly fascinated SW fans. At this stage it seems like everyone knows who he is in the story universe, so it's baffling that the audience is being denied that knowledge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 12/16/17 7:23:24 PM #24:	Sphyx posted... I was actually happy with the way his part in the story panned out. He had become too reliant on being freakishly powerful in the force and let his guard slip while his attention was on Rey. But i am annoyed there was no explanation as to who he was, how he got there and why he's so powerful, all things which have clearly fascinated SW fans. At this stage it seems like everyone knows who he is in the story universe, so it's baffling that the audience is being denied that knowledge. Who is he in the story universe? --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:892345066] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sphyx posted...</cite> <quote>I was actually happy with the way his part in the story panned out. He had become too reliant on being freakishly powerful in the force and let his guard slip while his attention was on Rey. But i am annoyed there was no explanation as to who he was, how he got there and why he's so powerful, all things which have clearly fascinated SW fans. At this stage it seems like everyone knows who he is in the story universe, so it's baffling that the audience is being denied that knowledge.</quote> Who is he in the story universe?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VTBM 12/16/17 7:33:29 PM #25:	He's some rich force sensitive asshole who decided to become the leader of Imperial remnants. --- http://darkvisionsofterror.bandcamp.com/ http://i.imgur.com/e7sCCSb.png http://i.imgtc.com/AlmbdTG49T.jpg <cite>VTBM posted [p:892345560] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote>He's some rich force sensitive asshole who decided to become the leader of Imperial remnants.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/18/17 5:56:00 PM #26:	Snoke is like 10,000 years old. he is a Sith Lord from the days of the Old Republic and the Sith Empire. He has kept himself alive through mastery of the force. that's why he looks like he does. He didn't die when Kylo did what he did. and he will be back. the entire Star Wars saga has been all part of his master plan. He is after something, and he's been scheming and orchestrating events in the galaxy for generations <cite>Zikten posted [p:892459555] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote>Snoke is like 10,000 years old. he is a Sith Lord from the days of the Old Republic and the Sith Empire. He has kept himself alive through mastery of the force. that's why he looks like he does. He didn't die when Kylo did what he did. and he will be back. the entire Star Wars saga has been all part of his master plan. He is after something, and he's been scheming and orchestrating events in the galaxy for generations</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zack_Attackv1 12/18/17 5:57:21 PM #27:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfWElKm0X54 --- http://i.imgur.com/RquSMKH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/WpKqfd4.jpg <cite>Zack_Attackv1 posted [p:892459651] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfWElKm0X54</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 12/18/17 5:58:30 PM #28:	Zikten posted... Snoke is like 10,000 years old. he is a Sith Lord from the days of the Old Republic and the Sith Empire. He has kept himself alive through mastery of the force. that's why he looks like he does. He didn't die when Kylo did what he did. and he will be back. the entire Star Wars saga has been all part of his master plan. He is after something, and he's been scheming and orchestrating events in the galaxy for generations Seriously? --- Just your bad luck... to run into me. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:892459715] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>Snoke is like 10,000 years old. he is a Sith Lord from the days of the Old Republic and the Sith Empire. He has kept himself alive through mastery of the force. that's why he looks like he does. He didn't die when Kylo did what he did. and he will be back. the entire Star Wars saga has been all part of his master plan. He is after something, and he's been scheming and orchestrating events in the galaxy for generations</quote> Seriously?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Old NoiseTank 12/18/17 5:59:01 PM #29:	Ammonitida posted... He is SNOKE. An ugly Sith lord. We only got the backstory to Sideous in the prequels. but the neckbeards need everything explained to them NOW. --- Grim Reaper: "Your time has come" Xsquader: "sir whats your badge number?" <cite>Old NoiseTank posted [p:892459750] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>He is SNOKE. An ugly Sith lord. We only got the backstory to Sideous in the prequels.</quote> but the neckbeards need everything explained to them NOW.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zack_Attackv1 12/18/17 5:59:18 PM #30:	SSJGrimReaper posted... Andy Serkis got gyped lol He always gets gyped. That's kind of his thing. --- http://i.imgur.com/EPQ7r7l.jpg <cite>Zack_Attackv1 posted [p:892459768] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJGrimReaper posted...</cite> <quote>Andy Serkis got gyped lol</quote> He always gets gyped. That's kind of his thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 12/18/17 6:00:44 PM #31:	Old NoiseTank posted... Ammonitida posted... He is SNOKE. An ugly Sith lord. We only got the backstory to Sideous in the prequels. but the neckbeards need everything explained to them NOW. God forbid information is actually revealed 2 movies into a trilogy. Shut the fuck up. --- Just your bad luck... to run into me. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:892459852] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote><cite>Old NoiseTank posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>He is SNOKE. An ugly Sith lord. We only got the backstory to Sideous in the prequels.</quote> but the neckbeards need everything explained to them NOW.</quote> God forbid information is actually revealed 2 movies into a trilogy. Shut the fuck up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 12/18/17 6:01:32 PM #32:	Maybe they purposely gave Snoke little backstory so that they can make a prequel trilogy dedicated to him --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo Click here to unlock the meaning of life! <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:892459901] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote>Maybe they purposely gave Snoke little backstory so that they can make a prequel trilogy dedicated to him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/18/17 6:03:06 PM #33:	KazumaKiryu posted... Zikten posted... Snoke is like 10,000 years old. he is a Sith Lord from the days of the Old Republic and the Sith Empire. He has kept himself alive through mastery of the force. that's why he looks like he does. He didn't die when Kylo did what he did. and he will be back. the entire Star Wars saga has been all part of his master plan. He is after something, and he's been scheming and orchestrating events in the galaxy for generations Seriously? It's a theory I heard and believe in. <cite>Zikten posted [p:892459988] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>Snoke is like 10,000 years old. he is a Sith Lord from the days of the Old Republic and the Sith Empire. He has kept himself alive through mastery of the force. that's why he looks like he does. He didn't die when Kylo did what he did. and he will be back. the entire Star Wars saga has been all part of his master plan. He is after something, and he's been scheming and orchestrating events in the galaxy for generations</quote> Seriously?</quote> It's a theory I heard and believe in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sylverlolol 12/18/17 6:03:50 PM #34:	KazumaKiryu posted... Right? That's the thing, like they totally skipped over the New Republic and the time of peace and prosperity they had and I have to wonder if it's because that isn't a WAR. p sure all that is covered in the Battlefront II campaign...which is dumb as fuck, but at least its out there --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. <cite>sylverlolol posted [p:892460033] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>Right? That's the thing, like they totally skipped over the New Republic and the time of peace and prosperity they had and I have to wonder if it's because that isn't a WAR. </quote> p sure all that is covered in the Battlefront II campaign...which is dumb as fuck, but at least its out there</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taxer 12/18/17 6:08:07 PM #35:	Old NoiseTank posted... Ammonitida posted... He is SNOKE. An ugly Sith lord. We only got the backstory to Sideous in the prequels. but the neckbeards need everything explained to them NOW. At first the Emperor was just the evil dude behind everything, but once they established how the Sith work and all that junk in later entries (Rule of Two, etc), it then leaves Star Wars fans feeling like something that should have been explained is being left out for no reason. For the general audience, he just fulfills the same role as Sidious did in the OT. --- https://soundcloud.com/taxerthetyrant <cite>Taxer posted [p:892460295] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote><cite>Old NoiseTank posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>He is SNOKE. An ugly Sith lord. We only got the backstory to Sideous in the prequels.</quote> but the neckbeards need everything explained to them NOW.</quote> At first the Emperor was just the evil dude behind everything, but once they established how the Sith work and all that junk in later entries (Rule of Two, etc), it then leaves Star Wars fans feeling like something that should have been explained is being left out for no reason. For the general audience, he just fulfills the same role as Sidious did in the OT.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 12/18/17 6:12:31 PM #36:	Ezra Bridger from Star wars Rebels. Why not. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:892460551] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote>Ezra Bridger from Star wars Rebels. Why not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelsNAirwav3s 12/18/17 6:13:46 PM #37:	No one knew who the fuck Darth Sidious was in the OT either, I don't see why people suddenly care now --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:892460628] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote>No one knew who the fuck Darth Sidious was in the OT either, I don't see why people suddenly care now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 12/18/17 6:14:57 PM #38:	AngelsNAirwav3s posted... No one knew who the fuck Darth Sidious was in the OT either, I don't see why people suddenly care now Because the OT wasn't a sequel taking place 30 years after a trilogy where the good guys won --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:892460685] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote><cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted...</cite> <quote>No one knew who the fuck Darth Sidious was in the OT either, I don't see why people suddenly care now</quote> Because the OT wasn't a sequel taking place 30 years after a trilogy where the good guys won</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kuwab0 12/18/17 6:16:04 PM #39:	--- http://i.imgur.com/QfpP05s.png http://i.imgur.com/vdnZ1o6.png http://i.imgur.com/zTgf822.png <cite>kuwab0 posted [p:892460763] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 12/18/17 6:16:20 PM #40:	DarthAragorn posted... AngelsNAirwav3s posted... No one knew who the fuck Darth Sidious was in the OT either, I don't see why people suddenly care now Because the OT wasn't a sequel taking place 30 years after a trilogy where the good guys won Literally Episode V. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:892460779] in So who the... [t:76106615]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted...</cite> <quote>No one knew who the fuck Darth Sidious was in the OT either, I don't see why people suddenly care now</quote> Because the OT wasn't a sequel taking place 30 years after a trilogy where the good guys won</quote> Literally Episode V.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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