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I bulked for around 5ish months, and now Ive been cutting for 3 weeks. Based on this photo, what is my body fat percentage?


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No, I'd say you need to double down.
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SageHarpuia posted...

No, I'd say you need to double down.

He ain't even got size yet tho.
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you gotta keep cutting, you're probably 15-18%
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Yeah stop cutting in line, it's rude.
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SageHarpuia posted...

No, I'd say you need to double down.

Like eat even less?

Its tough for me to gauge since Ive only been lifting 6 months, so I dont know exactly how much muscle I should be seeing.
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Maybe you should try actually picking up a weight.
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youre still really tubby, probably 15 lbs away from being lean.

Vermander posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

No, I'd say you need to double down.

Like eat even less?

Its tough for me to gauge since Ive only been lifting 6 months, so I dont know exactly how much muscle I should be seeing.

you got alotta room to grow. You can go either way really.

If I was you personally, I'd bulk til about march, then start cutting for summer.
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CanuckCowboy posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

No, I'd say you need to double down.

He ain't even got size yet tho.

That was me around the time I started. I am going on another bulk again, Ive been just trying to shed off some of the fat to keep me motivated, and so I dont bloat. I doubt even if I cut another 5% Ill even look that muscular.
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FluttershyPony posted...

youre still really tubby, probably 15 lbs away from being lean.

That would put me at about the weight I started. (Maybe a little more)
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What's "cutting" in this context?

I mean, I assumed you meant something more worrying when I saw the topic title.
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DK9292 posted...

What's "cutting" in this context?

I mean, I assumed you meant something more worrying when I saw the topic title.

losing weight
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DK9292 posted...

What's "cutting" in this context?

I mean, I assumed you meant something more worrying when I saw the topic title.

Trying to get more lean by lowering body fat % after a bulk.

Anyways I can do an 8 week cut, I just dont eat away at my progress.
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Bump
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AustonMatthews posted...

losing weight

Vermander posted...

Trying to get more lean by lowering body fat % after a bulk.

Ooooh, okay.
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Keep going until you're at 10% body fat
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Only stop cutting after you get abs
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Vermander posted...

FluttershyPony posted...

youre still really tubby, probably 15 lbs away from being lean.

That would put me at about the weight I started. (Maybe a little more)

Who cares how much you weigh?

The average lardmerican is 5'9 and 170ishlbs, Franke zane is 5'10 and 173lbs. Wonder what they both look like when shirtless.

Vermander posted...

CanuckCowboy posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

No, I'd say you need to double down.

He ain't even got size yet tho.

That was me around the time I started. I am going on another bulk again, Ive been just trying to shed off some of the fat to keep me motivated, and so I dont bloat. I doubt even if I cut another 5% Ill even look that muscular.

Well you've done some awesome work in 5 months and come a long ways.

I guess it's up to you really. I'd bulk more personally.
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You still have plenty of room to cut. You put on a respectable amount of weight, so its really up to you
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You look like you put on some good muscle TC. Good for you! I'd second the advice here and encourage you keep cutting too until you're lean enough to show some ab.
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CanuckCowboy posted...

Vermander posted...

CanuckCowboy posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

No, I'd say you need to double down.

He ain't even got size yet tho.

That was me around the time I started. I am going on another bulk again, Ive been just trying to shed off some of the fat to keep me motivated, and so I dont bloat. I doubt even if I cut another 5% Ill even look that muscular.

Well you've done some awesome work in 5 months and come a long ways.

I guess it's up to you really. I'd bulk more personally.

Thats really encouraging thank you.

When I start bulking I am going to be a little more clean. Ive got a much better idea of how my body responds to calories now, so I think I need to sit somewhere around 3300 (maybe closer to 3600 if i keep doing cardio)
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Honestly it depends on what you're after.

You're not fat but your abs don't look great. Idk if they'll ever look great no matter how much you lose. Your shoulders are showing a lot of growth though.

Anyway, at this point it doesn't matter imo. I cut when my my stomach actually starts to get a little flabby. Yours doesn't look any more flabby than before.

You're only 3 weeks in though. That's nothing. You've lost your water weight and will start to really see your results soon. Personally, I would ve bulked for awhile more.
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Btw I am currently 168 at 510. (I was 172 when I started 3 weeks ago)
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Jiek_Fafn posted...

Honestly it depends on what you're after.

You're not fat but your abs don't look great. Idk if they'll ever look great no matter how much you lose. Your shoulders are showing a lot of growth though.

Anyway, at this point it doesn't matter imo. I cut when my my stomach actually starts to get a little flabby. Yours doesn't look any more flabby than before.

You're only 3 weeks in though. That's nothing. You've lost your water weight and will start to really see your results soon. Personally, I would ve bulked for awhile more.

Are there any better ab workouts? Ive been doing weighted crunches, ans weighted leg raises on that support ball equipment. (I dont remember what its called.) I really only two sets of abs every other day. (15 each)
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If this is a serious thread, bulk for like another 5months imo. Sure, you have muscle, but not that much (honestly). So if you cut, you're pretty much just losing a lot of the weight you just put on, ie, back to square one. It's kind of a huge meme in the fitness community to bulk and cut the same 15lbs every year
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NightMarishPie posted...

If this is a serious thread, bulk for like another 5months imo. Sure, you have muscle, but not that much (honestly). So if you cut, you're pretty much just losing a lot of the weight you just put on, ie, back to square one. It's kind of a huge meme in the fitness community to bulk and cut the same 15lbs every year

>telling a guy with a gut and lovehandles to "bulk"

Mate he wants to look good, not turn into jason blaha. If you cut first at least you'll look aesthetic in clothes and have a nice, defined jawline/face before going into step 2.

Bulking while still being a bit on the fat side will turn him into a lardball with a bloated face and 42 inch waistline wanting to kill himself after realizing he now has to lose 40lbs instead of 15.

NightMarishPie posted...

If this is a serious thread, bulk for like another 5months imo. Sure, you have muscle, but not that much (honestly). So if you cut, you're pretty much just losing a lot of the weight you just put on, ie, back to square one. It's kind of a huge meme in the fitness community to bulk and cut the same 15lbs every year

That's why it's better to lean bulk
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FluttershyPony posted...

NightMarishPie posted...

If this is a serious thread, bulk for like another 5months imo. Sure, you have muscle, but not that much (honestly). So if you cut, you're pretty much just losing a lot of the weight you just put on, ie, back to square one. It's kind of a huge meme in the fitness community to bulk and cut the same 15lbs every year

>telling a guy with a gut and lovehandles to "bulk"

Mate he wants to look good, not turn into jason blaha. If you cut first at least you'll look aesthetic in clothes and have a nice, defined jawline/face before going into step 2.

Bulking while still being a bit on the fat side will turn him into a lardball with a bloated face and 42 inch waistline wanting to kill himself after realizing he now has to lose 40lbs instead of 15.

I never said he had to gain 40lbs on a bulk lol. Imo, you should gain strength and muscle before cutting. Like, what's the point of cutting right from the start when you have no muscle to cut to? Just to look like a twig? A newer lifter, I think, should put on size and strength for awhile, then cut. Again, I'm not telling him to shove his face full of doughnuts all day but just to add like, 500 calories a day for another few months
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Vermander posted...

Jiek_Fafn posted...

Honestly it depends on what you're after.

You're not fat but your abs don't look great. Idk if they'll ever look great no matter how much you lose. Your shoulders are showing a lot of growth though.

Anyway, at this point it doesn't matter imo. I cut when my my stomach actually starts to get a little flabby. Yours doesn't look any more flabby than before.

You're only 3 weeks in though. That's nothing. You've lost your water weight and will start to really see your results soon. Personally, I would ve bulked for awhile more.

Are there any better ab workouts? Ive been doing weighted crunches, ans weighted leg raises on that support ball equipment. (I dont remember what its called.) I really only two sets of abs every other day. (15 each)

Guys like @Pow_Pow_Punishment can probably give you better advice. Lots of people don't even do a real ab workout and just engage during their other lifts. I do 1-2 workouts a week of v up, bicycle crunches, and planks. Sometimes I'll throw something else in there to keep it fresh. It's got a lot to do with how your body stores fat though so it's hard for me to generalize with my level of knowledge.
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YookaLaylee posted...

NightMarishPie posted...

If this is a serious thread, bulk for like another 5months imo. Sure, you have muscle, but not that much (honestly). So if you cut, you're pretty much just losing a lot of the weight you just put on, ie, back to square one. It's kind of a huge meme in the fitness community to bulk and cut the same 15lbs every year

That's why it's better to lean bulk

Thats my plan. I have a much better idea now at how to adjust my diet to keep the fact off. (Less olive oil, bagels, and maintain cardio)

Alternatively I could drop cardio and just drink my whey in milk/water however Ive been finding my shakes were a lot of my fiber and were keeping me regular, as where using milk has been binding me up. (A problem Ive had since I started cutting)
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NightMarishPie posted...

FluttershyPony posted...

NightMarishPie posted...

If this is a serious thread, bulk for like another 5months imo. Sure, you have muscle, but not that much (honestly). So if you cut, you're pretty much just losing a lot of the weight you just put on, ie, back to square one. It's kind of a huge meme in the fitness community to bulk and cut the same 15lbs every year

>telling a guy with a gut and lovehandles to "bulk"

Mate he wants to look good, not turn into jason blaha. If you cut first at least you'll look aesthetic in clothes and have a nice, defined jawline/face before going into step 2.

Bulking while still being a bit on the fat side will turn him into a lardball with a bloated face and 42 inch waistline wanting to kill himself after realizing he now has to lose 40lbs instead of 15.

I never said he had to gain 40lbs on a bulk lol. Imo, you should gain strength and muscle before cutting. Like, what's the point of cutting right from the start when you have no muscle to cut to? Just to look like a twig? A newer lifter, I think, should put on size and strength for awhile, then cut. Again, I'm not telling him to shove his face full of doughnuts all day but just to add like, 500 calories a day for another few months

A skinny guy can look very handsome, at least 100x more than a fat guy who just finished his bulk " imma powa liftah".

Natural lifters who bulk past 15% bodyfat look absolutely atrocious, and he's at 17%ish as it is.

Jiek_Fafn posted...

Vermander posted...

Jiek_Fafn posted...

Honestly it depends on what you're after.

You're not fat but your abs don't look great. Idk if they'll ever look great no matter how much you lose. Your shoulders are showing a lot of growth though.

Anyway, at this point it doesn't matter imo. I cut when my my stomach actually starts to get a little flabby. Yours doesn't look any more flabby than before.

You're only 3 weeks in though. That's nothing. You've lost your water weight and will start to really see your results soon. Personally, I would ve bulked for awhile more.

Are there any better ab workouts? Ive been doing weighted crunches, ans weighted leg raises on that support ball equipment. (I dont remember what its called.) I really only two sets of abs every other day. (15 each)

Guys like @Pow_Pow_Punishment can probably give you better advice. Lots of people don't even do a real ab workout and just engage during their other lifts. I do 1-2 workouts a week of v up, bicycle crunches, and planks. Sometimes I'll throw something else in there to keep it fresh. It's got a lot to do with how your body stores fat though so it's hard for me to generalize with my level of knowledge.

Ive been told my squats should do a lot. (Ive had a lot of improvement on them, I went from 115 to 265 in 6 months before reset)
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FluttershyPony posted...

NightMarishPie posted...

FluttershyPony posted...

NightMarishPie posted...

If this is a serious thread, bulk for like another 5months imo. Sure, you have muscle, but not that much (honestly). So if you cut, you're pretty much just losing a lot of the weight you just put on, ie, back to square one. It's kind of a huge meme in the fitness community to bulk and cut the same 15lbs every year

>telling a guy with a gut and lovehandles to "bulk"

Mate he wants to look good, not turn into jason blaha. If you cut first at least you'll look aesthetic in clothes and have a nice, defined jawline/face before going into step 2.

Bulking while still being a bit on the fat side will turn him into a lardball with a bloated face and 42 inch waistline wanting to kill himself after realizing he now has to lose 40lbs instead of 15.

I never said he had to gain 40lbs on a bulk lol. Imo, you should gain strength and muscle before cutting. Like, what's the point of cutting right from the start when you have no muscle to cut to? Just to look like a twig? A newer lifter, I think, should put on size and strength for awhile, then cut. Again, I'm not telling him to shove his face full of doughnuts all day but just to add like, 500 calories a day for another few months

A skinny guy can look very handsome, at least 100x more than a fat guy who just finished his bulk " imma powa liftah".

Natural lifters who bulk past 15% bodyfat look absolutely atrocious, and he's at 17%ish as it is.

well, i can finally tell youre joking so im going to stop responding to you. have a good one man
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NightMarishPie posted...

FluttershyPony posted...

NightMarishPie posted...

FluttershyPony posted...

NightMarishPie posted...

If this is a serious thread, bulk for like another 5months imo. Sure, you have muscle, but not that much (honestly). So if you cut, you're pretty much just losing a lot of the weight you just put on, ie, back to square one. It's kind of a huge meme in the fitness community to bulk and cut the same 15lbs every year

>telling a guy with a gut and lovehandles to "bulk"

Mate he wants to look good, not turn into jason blaha. If you cut first at least you'll look aesthetic in clothes and have a nice, defined jawline/face before going into step 2.

Bulking while still being a bit on the fat side will turn him into a lardball with a bloated face and 42 inch waistline wanting to kill himself after realizing he now has to lose 40lbs instead of 15.

I never said he had to gain 40lbs on a bulk lol. Imo, you should gain strength and muscle before cutting. Like, what's the point of cutting right from the start when you have no muscle to cut to? Just to look like a twig? A newer lifter, I think, should put on size and strength for awhile, then cut. Again, I'm not telling him to shove his face full of doughnuts all day but just to add like, 500 calories a day for another few months

A skinny guy can look very handsome, at least 100x more than a fat guy who just finished his bulk " imma powa liftah".

Natural lifters who bulk past 15% bodyfat look absolutely atrocious, and he's at 17%ish as it is.

well, i can finally tell youre joking so im going to stop responding to you. have a good one man

Lol
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NightMarishPie posted...

FluttershyPony posted...

NightMarishPie posted...

FluttershyPony posted...

NightMarishPie posted...

If this is a serious thread, bulk for like another 5months imo. Sure, you have muscle, but not that much (honestly). So if you cut, you're pretty much just losing a lot of the weight you just put on, ie, back to square one. It's kind of a huge meme in the fitness community to bulk and cut the same 15lbs every year

>telling a guy with a gut and lovehandles to "bulk"

Mate he wants to look good, not turn into jason blaha. If you cut first at least you'll look aesthetic in clothes and have a nice, defined jawline/face before going into step 2.

Bulking while still being a bit on the fat side will turn him into a lardball with a bloated face and 42 inch waistline wanting to kill himself after realizing he now has to lose 40lbs instead of 15.

I never said he had to gain 40lbs on a bulk lol. Imo, you should gain strength and muscle before cutting. Like, what's the point of cutting right from the start when you have no muscle to cut to? Just to look like a twig? A newer lifter, I think, should put on size and strength for awhile, then cut. Again, I'm not telling him to shove his face full of doughnuts all day but just to add like, 500 calories a day for another few months

A skinny guy can look very handsome, at least 100x more than a fat guy who just finished his bulk " imma powa liftah".

Natural lifters who bulk past 15% bodyfat look absolutely atrocious, and he's at 17%ish as it is.

well, i can finally tell youre joking so im going to stop responding to you. have a good one man

t. jason blaha

Shouldve waited until youve added more muscle. NightMarishPie had it right when he said youll literally be right back at square 1 by cutting so soon.
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Based on your picture I would lose some weight and lift heavy to maintain muscle mass and increase strength.
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Pow Pow Punishment posted...

Based on your picture I would lose some weight and lift heavy to maintain muscle mass and increase strength.

My routine is completely unchanged and I still continue to overload (Though Im stalling pretty bad on my Overhead press) The only thing I have changed is added some cardio at the end to help trim the fat. Ive been gradually adding new excercises in. (I was planning on starting lunges and dips this week)
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Generally when I'm losing weight I employ a little less volume and isolation work because I don't expect much muscle hypertrophy and to aid in recovery from the reduced calories. To compensate I keep the weight heavy or go even heavier with fewer reps.
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