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Darmik 12/05/17 9:07:27 PM #1:	https://pagesix.com/2017/12/05/john-oliver-dustin-hoffman-have-heated-exchange-over-sexual-harassment-claims/ Dustin Hoffman got into a heated war of words with HBO host John Oliver on Monday night during a public Q&A session after Oliver questioned the actor about recent sexual harassment allegations that were made against him. Youve made one statement in print does that feel like enough to you? Oliver asked in reference to an apology Hoffman made after he was publicly accused by a former production assistant in The Hollywood Reporter last month. First of all, it didnt happen, the way she reported, the actor said, according to Deadline. To which Oliver replied, Its that part of the response to this stuff that pisses me off. It is reflective of who you were. Youve given no evidence to show that it didnt happen. There was a period of time when you were creeping around women. It feels like a cop-out to say, Well, this isnt me. Do you understand how that feels like a dismissal? Hoffman fired back, You werent there. Im glad, Oliver said. The event which was held to commemorate the 20th anniversary of Hoffmans film Wag the Dog lasted roughly an hour and was filled with heated exchanges, Deadline reports. Youve put me on display here, Hoffman told Oliver at one point. You have indicted me Thats not innocent until proven guilty. The actor repeatedly tried to blame the time period for his actions, saying the atmosphere was different back then when the alleged abuse occurred. This prompted Oliver to go back on the offensive. I dont love that answer either, the British comedian said. What response do you want? Hoffman asked. It doesnt feel self-reflective in the way it seems the incident demands, replied Oliver. I get no pleasure from this conversation, he added. But you and I are not the victims here. Referencing reports in THR and Variety, Hoffman said: Do you believe this stuff youre reading? In response, Oliver flat-out said he did because she would have no reason to lie. Moments later, a person in the crowd shouted: Thank you for believing women. Wow --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:891664320] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote>https://pagesix.com/2017/12/05/john-oliver-dustin-hoffman-have-heated-exchange-over-sexual-harassment-claims/ <quote>Dustin Hoffman got into a heated war of words with HBO host John Oliver on Monday night during a public Q&A session after Oliver questioned the actor about recent sexual harassment allegations that were made against him. Youve made one statement in print does that feel like enough to you? Oliver asked in reference to an apology Hoffman made after he was publicly accused by a former production assistant in The Hollywood Reporter last month. First of all, it didnt happen, the way she reported, the actor said, according to Deadline. To which Oliver replied, Its that part of the response to this stuff that pisses me off. It is reflective of who you were. Youve given no evidence to show that it didnt happen. There was a period of time when you were creeping around women. It feels like a cop-out to say, Well, this isnt me. Do you understand how that feels like a dismissal? Hoffman fired back, You werent there. Im glad, Oliver said. The event which was held to commemorate the 20th anniversary of Hoffmans film Wag the Dog lasted roughly an hour and was filled with heated exchanges, Deadline reports. Youve put me on display here, Hoffman told Oliver at one point. You have indicted me Thats not innocent until proven guilty. The actor repeatedly tried to blame the time period for his actions, saying the atmosphere was different back then when the alleged abuse occurred. This prompted Oliver to go back on the offensive. I dont love that answer either, the British comedian said. What response do you want? Hoffman asked. It doesnt feel self-reflective in the way it seems the incident demands, replied Oliver. I get no pleasure from this conversation, he added. But you and I are not the victims here. Referencing reports in THR and Variety, Hoffman said: Do you believe this stuff youre reading? In response, Oliver flat-out said he did because she would have no reason to lie. Moments later, a person in the crowd shouted: Thank you for believing women.</quote> Wow</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yaridovich 12/05/17 9:08:18 PM #2:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWsuokWmEZI --- Talk about backseat fishing http://i.imgur.com/VqWjuCs.png <cite>Yaridovich posted [p:891664360] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWsuokWmEZI</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trayvon 12/05/17 9:09:38 PM #4:	I can't wait for John Oliver to be exposed for being a sexual harrasser too <cite>Trayvon posted [p:891664431] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote>I can't wait for John Oliver to be exposed for being a sexual harrasser too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/05/17 9:11:06 PM #5:	-Gavirulax- posted... Darmik posted... It is reflective of who you were. Youve given no evidence to show that it didnt happen ...lol It sounds like he means he is both saying it didn't happen while simultaneously saying it was a different time. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:891664504] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>-Gavirulax- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>It is reflective of who you were. Youve given no evidence to show that it didnt happen</quote> ...lol</quote> It sounds like he means he is both saying it didn't happen while simultaneously saying it was a different time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eggcorn 12/05/17 9:11:24 PM #6:	Darmik posted... Moments later, a person in the crowd shouted: Thank you for believing women. lol <cite>eggcorn posted [p:891664516] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Moments later, a person in the crowd shouted: Thank you for believing women.</quote> lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/05/17 9:11:35 PM #7:	Darmik posted... To which Oliver replied, Its that part of the response to this stuff that pisses me off. It is reflective of who you were. Youve given no evidence to show that it didnt happen. The left, folks. To them, you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891664527] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>To which Oliver replied, Its that part of the response to this stuff that pisses me off. It is reflective of who you were. Youve given no evidence to show that it didnt happen.</quote> The left, folks. To them, you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourDrunkFather 12/05/17 9:12:11 PM #8:	-Gavirulax- posted... Darmik posted... It is reflective of who you were. Youve given no evidence to show that it didnt happen ...lol Ikr If a women accuses you of something she doesn't have to provide evidence it happened. YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE IT DIDN'T. --- One bourbon,one scotch,one beer <cite>YourDrunkFather posted [p:891664552] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>-Gavirulax- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>It is reflective of who you were. Youve given no evidence to show that it didnt happen</quote> ...lol</quote> Ikr If a women accuses you of something she doesn't have to provide evidence it happened. YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE IT DIDN'T.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/05/17 9:13:49 PM #9:	Why do people keep ignoring the rest of his argument? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:891664633] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote>Why do people keep ignoring the rest of his argument?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eat More Beef 12/05/17 9:15:41 PM #10:	Mal_Fet posted... Darmik posted... To which Oliver replied, Its that part of the response to this stuff that pisses me off. It is reflective of who you were. Youve given no evidence to show that it didnt happen. The left, folks. To them, you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent. The actor repeatedly tried to blame the time period for his actions, saying the atmosphere was different back then when the alleged abuse occurred. So... Hoffman says it didn't happen, even though, it totally did but it's chill cause it was the 80s. --- I wrote a horror short story collection. You can check it out, and other free short stories at http://www.aarondeck.com <cite>Eat More Beef posted [p:891664719] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>To which Oliver replied, Its that part of the response to this stuff that pisses me off. It is reflective of who you were. Youve given no evidence to show that it didnt happen.</quote> The left, folks. To them, you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent.</quote> <quote>The actor repeatedly tried to blame the time period for his actions, saying the atmosphere was different back then when the alleged abuse occurred.</quote> So... Hoffman says it didn't happen, even though, it totally did but it's chill cause it was the 80s.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/05/17 9:15:53 PM #11:	Darmik posted... Why do people keep ignoring the rest of his argument? What argument Oliver is a virtue-signalling dunce who pretends like a woman has nothing to gain from accusing a famous rich guy of sexual assault Anyone with two fucking synapses to rub together can figure out that she does --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891664730] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Why do people keep ignoring the rest of his argument?</quote> What argument Oliver is a virtue-signalling dunce who pretends like a woman has nothing to gain from accusing a famous rich guy of sexual assault Anyone with two fucking synapses to rub together can figure out that she does</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Em_gai 12/05/17 9:17:09 PM #12:	-Gavirulax- posted... Darmik posted... It is reflective of who you were. Youve given no evidence to show that it didnt happen ...lol Yeah Im big on this stuff and protecting women but. Its he said she said. Theres no way to possibly provide evidence either way, and his response is she wouldnt lie! <cite>Em_gai posted [p:891664797] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>-Gavirulax- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>It is reflective of who you were. Youve given no evidence to show that it didnt happen</quote> ...lol</quote> Yeah Im big on this stuff and protecting women but. Its he said she said. Theres no way to possibly provide evidence either way, and his response is she wouldnt lie!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 12/05/17 9:18:34 PM #13:	Mal_Fet posted... Darmik posted... Why do people keep ignoring the rest of his argument? What argument Oliver is a virtue-signalling dunce who pretends like a woman has nothing to gain from accusing a famous rich guy of sexual assault Anyone with two fucking synapses to rub together can figure out that she does So because she could POSSIBLY gain something from this, you cant trust her? Even when Hoffman tried to use the it was a different time defense, which points towards guilt? What a joke Mal. --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:891664863] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Why do people keep ignoring the rest of his argument?</quote> What argument Oliver is a virtue-signalling dunce who pretends like a woman has nothing to gain from accusing a famous rich guy of sexual assault Anyone with two fucking synapses to rub together can figure out that she does</quote> So because she could POSSIBLY gain something from this, you cant trust her? Even when Hoffman tried to use the it was a different time defense, which points towards guilt? What a joke Mal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 12/05/17 9:19:22 PM #14:	is there a video? <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:891664908] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote>is there a video?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 12/05/17 9:19:29 PM #15:	Y'all realize he pretty much admitted to doing shit but "it was a different time back then" right? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:891664914] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote>Y'all realize he pretty much admitted to doing shit but "it was a different time back then" right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/05/17 9:20:06 PM #16:	Mal_Fet posted... Darmik posted... Why do people keep ignoring the rest of his argument? What argument Oliver is a virtue-signalling dunce who pretends like a woman has nothing to gain from accusing a famous rich guy of sexual assault Anyone with two fucking synapses to rub together can figure out that she does What about this specific woman? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:891664949] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Why do people keep ignoring the rest of his argument?</quote> What argument Oliver is a virtue-signalling dunce who pretends like a woman has nothing to gain from accusing a famous rich guy of sexual assault Anyone with two fucking synapses to rub together can figure out that she does</quote> What about this specific woman?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/05/17 9:20:33 PM #17:	sktgamer_13dude posted... So because she could POSSIBLY gain something from this, you cant trust her? Even when Hoffman tried to use the it was a different time defense, which points towards guilt? Due process proves guilt. Not he said/she said. Also, if you watch the actual interview, he defends his general flirtyness with the time it's in. He very clearly said that the altercation she alleged didn't happen. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891664987] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>So because she could POSSIBLY gain something from this, you cant trust her? Even when Hoffman tried to use the it was a different time defense, which points towards guilt?</quote> Due process proves guilt. Not he said/she said. Also, if you watch the actual interview, he defends his general flirtyness with the time it's in. He very clearly said that the altercation she alleged didn't happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/05/17 9:21:10 PM #18:	Smashingpmkns posted... Y'all realize he pretty much admitted to doing shit but "it was a different time back then" right? Why research the story when they can take specific quotes and cry about that instead? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:891665013] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>Y'all realize he pretty much admitted to doing shit but "it was a different time back then" right?</quote> Why research the story when they can take specific quotes and cry about that instead?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 12/05/17 9:21:15 PM #19:	Smashingpmkns posted... Y'all realize he pretty much admitted to doing shit but "it was a different time back then" right? Whoa now; she has things to gain by saying he assaulted her sexually. That means you cant trust her according to Mal. --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:891665020] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>Y'all realize he pretty much admitted to doing shit but "it was a different time back then" right?</quote> Whoa now; she has things to gain by saying he assaulted her sexually. That means you cant trust her according to Mal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrPeppers 12/05/17 9:21:46 PM #20:	sktgamer_13dude posted... So because she could POSSIBLY gain something from this, you cant trust her? Even when Hoffman tried to use the it was a different time defense, which points towards guilt? What a joke Mal. I think it comes down to "who has more to lose?" with an accusation of that caliber. Clearly the answer is the one with much, much more status (and probably wealth). I have no idea what's going on with Hoffman and his sexual allegations; I'm just basing it off of the snippet in the OP, but it sounds like Hoffman is claiming that the woman's allegations are not entirely accurate and may even be fabricated to an appreciable extent for the sake of an ulterior motive. And honestly, with lack of substantial evidence, who should the benefit of the doubt go to? --- http://i.imgur.com/SGkkbF0.png <cite>MrPeppers posted [p:891665047] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>So because she could POSSIBLY gain something from this, you cant trust her? Even when Hoffman tried to use the it was a different time defense, which points towards guilt? What a joke Mal.</quote> I think it comes down to "who has more to lose?" with an accusation of that caliber. Clearly the answer is the one with much, much more status (and probably wealth). I have no idea what's going on with Hoffman and his sexual allegations; I'm just basing it off of the snippet in the OP, but it sounds like Hoffman is claiming that the woman's allegations are not entirely accurate and may even be fabricated to an appreciable extent for the sake of an ulterior motive. And honestly, with lack of substantial evidence, who should the benefit of the doubt go to?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/05/17 9:22:12 PM #21:	Darmik posted... What about this specific woman? Dustin Hoffman is rich and famous. She knows that a sexual assault claim would be hard for him to deny, because they spent time together in the past. She doesn't need to provide any evidence her story is true; all she has to do is hold his career hostage until she gets a fat payout from him. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891665072] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>What about this specific woman?</quote> Dustin Hoffman is rich and famous. She knows that a sexual assault claim would be hard for him to deny, because they spent time together in the past. She doesn't need to provide any evidence her story is true; all she has to do is hold his career hostage until she gets a fat payout from him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/05/17 9:22:14 PM #22:	Mal_Fet posted... He very clearly said that the altercation she alleged didn't happen. That's not what he said before though. "I have the utmost respect for women and feel terrible that anything I might have done could have put her in an uncomfortable situation," he said. "I am sorry. It is not reflective of who I am." That's why Oliver then proceeded to argue with him. Mal_Fet posted... She doesn't need to provide any evidence her story is true; all she has to do is hold his career hostage until she gets a fat payout from him. Is she trying to sue him? Why would he pay her? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:891665075] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>He very clearly said that the altercation she alleged didn't happen.</quote> That's not what he said before though. <quote>"I have the utmost respect for women and feel terrible that anything I might have done could have put her in an uncomfortable situation," he said. "I am sorry. It is not reflective of who I am."</quote> That's why Oliver then proceeded to argue with him. <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>She doesn't need to provide any evidence her story is true; all she has to do is hold his career hostage until she gets a fat payout from him.</quote> Is she trying to sue him? Why would he pay her?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/05/17 9:23:29 PM #23:	Darmik posted... Mal_Fet posted... He very clearly said that the altercation she alleged didn't happen. That's not what he said before though. "I have the utmost respect for women and feel terrible that anything I might have done could have put her in an uncomfortable situation," he said. "I am sorry. It is not reflective of who I am." That's why Oliver then proceeded to argue with him. Mal_Fet posted... She doesn't need to provide any evidence her story is true; all she has to do is hold his career hostage until she gets a fat payout from him. Is she trying to sue him? Why would he pay her? He also said: First of all, it didnt happen, the way she reported, the actor said, according to Deadline. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891665124] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>He very clearly said that the altercation she alleged didn't happen.</quote> That's not what he said before though. <quote>"I have the utmost respect for women and feel terrible that anything I might have done could have put her in an uncomfortable situation," he said. "I am sorry. It is not reflective of who I am."</quote> That's why Oliver then proceeded to argue with him. <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>She doesn't need to provide any evidence her story is true; all she has to do is hold his career hostage until she gets a fat payout from him.</quote> Is she trying to sue him? Why would he pay her?</quote> He also said: <quote>First of all, it didnt happen, the way she reported, the actor said, according to Deadline.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 12/05/17 9:23:53 PM #24:	Mal_Fet posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... So because she could POSSIBLY gain something from this, you cant trust her? Even when Hoffman tried to use the it was a different time defense, which points towards guilt? Due process proves guilt. Not he said/she said. Also, if you watch the actual interview, he defends his general flirtyness with the time it's in. He very clearly said that the altercation she alleged didn't happen. And then said it was a different time, which assumes that something happened but was normal for that time. Which was likely sexual harassment. Im not saying he raped her or something like that, but its painfully obvious that something happened that shouldnt have happened. And youre too dense to realize that because haha take that liberals! --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:891665146] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>So because she could POSSIBLY gain something from this, you cant trust her? Even when Hoffman tried to use the it was a different time defense, which points towards guilt?</quote> Due process proves guilt. Not he said/she said. Also, if you watch the actual interview, he defends his general flirtyness with the time it's in. He very clearly said that the altercation she alleged didn't happen.</quote> And then said it was a different time, which assumes that something happened but was normal for that time. Which was likely sexual harassment. Im not saying he raped her or something like that, but its painfully obvious that something happened that shouldnt have happened. And youre too dense to realize that because haha take that liberals!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 12/05/17 9:24:31 PM #25:	MrPeppers posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... So because she could POSSIBLY gain something from this, you cant trust her? Even when Hoffman tried to use the it was a different time defense, which points towards guilt? What a joke Mal. I think it comes down to "who has more to lose?" with an accusation of that caliber. Clearly the answer is the one with much, much more status (and probably wealth). I have no idea what's going on with Hoffman and his sexual allegations; I'm just basing it off of the snippet in the OP, but it sounds like Hoffman is claiming that the woman's allegations are not entirely accurate and may even be fabricated to an appreciable extent for the sake of an ulterior motive. And honestly, with lack of substantial evidence, who should the benefit of the doubt go to? to me, it sounds like he doesn't want to lie, but also doesn't want to outright admit guilt --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:891665184] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>MrPeppers posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>So because she could POSSIBLY gain something from this, you cant trust her? Even when Hoffman tried to use the it was a different time defense, which points towards guilt? What a joke Mal.</quote> I think it comes down to "who has more to lose?" with an accusation of that caliber. Clearly the answer is the one with much, much more status (and probably wealth). I have no idea what's going on with Hoffman and his sexual allegations; I'm just basing it off of the snippet in the OP, but it sounds like Hoffman is claiming that the woman's allegations are not entirely accurate and may even be fabricated to an appreciable extent for the sake of an ulterior motive. And honestly, with lack of substantial evidence, who should the benefit of the doubt go to?</quote> to me, it sounds like he doesn't want to lie, but also doesn't want to outright admit guilt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/05/17 9:24:37 PM #26:	Darmik posted... Is she trying to sue him? Why would he pay her? To get her to stop torpedoing his career, obviously. Hollywood will blacklist people based only on allegations. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891665189] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Is she trying to sue him? Why would he pay her?</quote> To get her to stop torpedoing his career, obviously. Hollywood will blacklist people based only on allegations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/05/17 9:24:54 PM #27:	Mal_Fet posted... Darmik posted... Mal_Fet posted... He very clearly said that the altercation she alleged didn't happen. That's not what he said before though. "I have the utmost respect for women and feel terrible that anything I might have done could have put her in an uncomfortable situation," he said. "I am sorry. It is not reflective of who I am." That's why Oliver then proceeded to argue with him. Mal_Fet posted... She doesn't need to provide any evidence her story is true; all she has to do is hold his career hostage until she gets a fat payout from him. Is she trying to sue him? Why would he pay her? He also said: First of all, it didnt happen, the way she reported, the actor said, according to Deadline. Did you read my post at all? That's not the statement he said before. He is only now on that panel denying it. Which is why the argument got heated. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:891665203] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>He very clearly said that the altercation she alleged didn't happen.</quote> That's not what he said before though. <quote>"I have the utmost respect for women and feel terrible that anything I might have done could have put her in an uncomfortable situation," he said. "I am sorry. It is not reflective of who I am."</quote> That's why Oliver then proceeded to argue with him. <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>She doesn't need to provide any evidence her story is true; all she has to do is hold his career hostage until she gets a fat payout from him.</quote> Is she trying to sue him? Why would he pay her?</quote> He also said: <quote>First of all, it didnt happen, the way she reported, the actor said, according to Deadline.</quote></quote> Did you read my post at all? That's not the statement he said before. He is only now on that panel denying it. Which is why the argument got heated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/05/17 9:24:59 PM #28:	sktgamer_13dude posted... And then said it was a different time, which assumes that something happened but was normal for that time. Which was likely sexual harassment. Mal_Fet posted... Also, if you watch the actual interview, he defends his general flirtyness with the time it's in. He very clearly said that the altercation she alleged didn't happen. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891665206] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>And then said it was a different time, which assumes that something happened but was normal for that time. Which was likely sexual harassment. </quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Also, if you watch the actual interview, he defends his general flirtyness with the time it's in. He very clearly said that the altercation she alleged didn't happen.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/05/17 9:25:59 PM #29:	Mal_Fet posted... Darmik posted... Is she trying to sue him? Why would he pay her? To get her to stop torpedoing his career, obviously. Hollywood will blacklist people based only on allegations. But she already did that. So why would he pay her? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:891665261] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Is she trying to sue him? Why would he pay her?</quote> To get her to stop torpedoing his career, obviously. Hollywood will blacklist people based only on allegations.</quote> But she already did that. So why would he pay her?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 12/05/17 9:26:27 PM #30:	Most of the accusations don't result in a law suit. This woman isn't gaining shit. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:891665290] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote>Most of the accusations don't result in a law suit. This woman isn't gaining shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/05/17 9:26:33 PM #31:	Darmik posted... Mal_Fet posted... Darmik posted... Is she trying to sue him? Why would he pay her? To get her to stop torpedoing his career, obviously. Hollywood will blacklist people based only on allegations. But she already did that. So why would he pay her? Because the longer the allegations stand, the more they could hound his career. Obviously. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891665297] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Is she trying to sue him? Why would he pay her?</quote> To get her to stop torpedoing his career, obviously. Hollywood will blacklist people based only on allegations.</quote> But she already did that. So why would he pay her?</quote> Because the longer the allegations stand, the more they could hound his career. Obviously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/05/17 9:27:39 PM #32:	Mal_Fet posted... Darmik posted... Mal_Fet posted... Darmik posted... Is she trying to sue him? Why would he pay her? To get her to stop torpedoing his career, obviously. Hollywood will blacklist people based only on allegations. But she already did that. So why would he pay her? Because the longer the allegations stand, the more they could hound his career. Obviously. Obviously what? How is paying her at this point going to change anything? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:891665349] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Is she trying to sue him? Why would he pay her?</quote> To get her to stop torpedoing his career, obviously. Hollywood will blacklist people based only on allegations.</quote> But she already did that. So why would he pay her?</quote> Because the longer the allegations stand, the more they could hound his career. Obviously.</quote> Obviously what? How is paying her at this point going to change anything?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/05/17 9:28:23 PM #33:	Darmik posted... Mal_Fet posted... Darmik posted... Mal_Fet posted... Darmik posted... Is she trying to sue him? Why would he pay her? To get her to stop torpedoing his career, obviously. Hollywood will blacklist people based only on allegations. But she already did that. So why would he pay her? Because the longer the allegations stand, the more they could hound his career. Obviously. Obviously what? How is paying her at this point going to change anything? Yes, if it gets her to drop her allegation --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891665397] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Is she trying to sue him? Why would he pay her?</quote> To get her to stop torpedoing his career, obviously. Hollywood will blacklist people based only on allegations.</quote> But she already did that. So why would he pay her?</quote> Because the longer the allegations stand, the more they could hound his career. Obviously.</quote> Obviously what? How is paying her at this point going to change anything?</quote> Yes, if it gets her to drop her allegation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/05/17 9:29:09 PM #34:	Mal_Fet posted... Yes, if it gets her to drop her allegation How is she supposed to do that? She published her fucking diary. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466 --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:891665424] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, if it gets her to drop her allegation</quote> How is she supposed to do that? She published her fucking diary. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vyrulisse 12/05/17 9:32:35 PM #36:	-Gavirulax- posted... Mal_Fet posted... Oliver is a virtue-signalling dunce Pretty much, I'm ashamed I ever used to watch that hack. In any event, I have no reason to honestly doubt this woman, but I do find Oliver's comments to be rather cringe worthy - even if I think this guy probably did (based on a lot of thing) this stuff, it's still never a reason to use the awful "prove (whatever) didn't happen!" (used to this line with religious folk, prove god doesn't exist, etc) line - that is weak, I'm not surprised he used it. His utter lack of critical thinking in making that statement is hilarious and sad to me. Dustin Hoffman has to prove something didn't happen yet this Woman has no burden of proof put on her by the same people. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QYvqDr7kCo <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:891665626] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>-Gavirulax- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Oliver is a virtue-signalling dunce</quote> Pretty much, I'm ashamed I ever used to watch that hack. In any event, I have no reason to honestly doubt this woman, but I do find Oliver's comments to be rather cringe worthy - even if I think this guy probably did (based on a lot of thing) this stuff, it's still never a reason to use the awful "prove (whatever) didn't happen!" (used to this line with religious folk, prove god doesn't exist, etc) line - that is weak, I'm not surprised he used it.</quote> His utter lack of critical thinking in making that statement is hilarious and sad to me. Dustin Hoffman has to prove something didn't happen yet this Woman has no burden of proof put on her by the same people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/05/17 9:32:58 PM #37:	Darmik posted... Mal_Fet posted... Yes, if it gets her to drop her allegation How is she supposed to do that? She published her fucking diary. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466 For a couple million dollars I bet you she'll find it really easy to retract her allegation. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891665643] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, if it gets her to drop her allegation</quote> How is she supposed to do that? She published her fucking diary. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466</quote> For a couple million dollars I bet you she'll find it really easy to retract her allegation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 12/05/17 9:33:31 PM #38:	Again Smashingpmkns posted... Y'all realize he pretty much admitted to doing shit but "it was a different time back then" right? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:891665670] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote>Again <cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>Y'all realize he pretty much admitted to doing shit but "it was a different time back then" right?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 12/05/17 9:34:41 PM #39:	Yaridovich posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWsuokWmEZI should have been the last post. --- #FeelTheBern http://i.imgur.com/q5z4CUu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6B9oFXh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sy42Dlf.jpg <cite>lilORANG posted [p:891665725] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Yaridovich posted...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWsuokWmEZI</quote> should have been the last post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 12/05/17 9:37:52 PM #40:	gavi defending a sexual predator huh <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:891665910] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote>gavi defending a sexual predator huh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 12/05/17 9:38:45 PM #41:	Trayvon posted... I can't wait for John Oliver to be exposed for being a sexual harrasser too --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:891665962] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Trayvon posted...</cite> <quote>I can't wait for John Oliver to be exposed for being a sexual harrasser too</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/05/17 9:38:57 PM #42:	Mal_Fet posted... Darmik posted... Mal_Fet posted... Yes, if it gets her to drop her allegation How is she supposed to do that? She published her fucking diary. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466 For a couple million dollars I bet you she'll find it really easy to retract her allegation. I don't think that would be easy at all. The allegations are out there. They're published. You can't blackmail people after you go public. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:891665970] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, if it gets her to drop her allegation</quote> How is she supposed to do that? She published her fucking diary. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466</quote> For a couple million dollars I bet you she'll find it really easy to retract her allegation.</quote> I don't think that would be easy at all. The allegations are out there. They're published. You can't blackmail people after you go public.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 12/05/17 9:44:14 PM #44:	Surprise surprise Mal is on the "women do this for attention and to get paid out" train as if he wasn't already enough of a joke --- http://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:891666263] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote>Surprise surprise Mal is on the "women do this for attention and to get paid out" train as if he wasn't already enough of a joke </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Schwarber 12/05/17 9:46:02 PM #45:	Darmik posted... I don't think that would be easy at all. The allegations are out there. They're published. You can't blackmail people after you go public. But she still has something to gain from it! This is obviously not true just because. Soon Mal and his ilk's defense will be Hoffman's "it was a different time" bs. --- http://i.imgur.com/iQXgYOx.gif http://i.imgur.com/l3frhSF.gif http://i.imgur.com/HM1Hjby.gif https://i.imgur.com/bvsFH0H.jpg - drawn by Yaridovich <cite>Schwarber posted [p:891666354] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think that would be easy at all. The allegations are out there. They're published. You can't blackmail people after you go public.</quote> But she still has something to gain from it! This is obviously not true just because. Soon Mal and his ilk's defense will be Hoffman's "it was a different time" bs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/05/17 9:47:18 PM #46:	Just to go over this story - Woman publishes old diary that details the sexual harassment she experienced from Hoffman - Hoffman apologizes - A second woman comes out and tells Variety a similar story - A month later Oliver grills him if his statement is enough. They proceed to get into an argument about if it happened or not When are these women supposed to get paid? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:891666425] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote>Just to go over this story - Woman publishes old diary that details the sexual harassment she experienced from Hoffman - Hoffman apologizes - A second woman comes out and tells Variety a similar story - A month later Oliver grills him if his statement is enough. They proceed to get into an argument about if it happened or not When are these women supposed to get paid?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/05/17 9:47:27 PM #47:	Darmik posted... Mal_Fet posted... Darmik posted... Mal_Fet posted... Yes, if it gets her to drop her allegation How is she supposed to do that? She published her fucking diary. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466 For a couple million dollars I bet you she'll find it really easy to retract her allegation. I don't think that would be easy at all. The allegations are out there. They're published. You can't blackmail people after you go public. Why not If she said "Sorry gang, I was young and confused, after a heartfelt talk with Dustin I realized I was remembering things wrong. I'm sorry to him and to all his fans" then that would be more than enough to have the public forgive him. Bio1590 posted... Surprise surprise Mal is on the "women do this for attention and to get paid out" train as if he wasn't already enough of a joke Oliver said "She has no reason to lie". Of course she has a reason to lie. I don't know if she is or not since no due process has taken place, but to say that she for sure is 100% not lying requires an amount of delusion so powerful that only a self-important wannabe pundit could manage it. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891666435] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, if it gets her to drop her allegation</quote> How is she supposed to do that? She published her fucking diary. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466</quote> For a couple million dollars I bet you she'll find it really easy to retract her allegation.</quote> I don't think that would be easy at all. The allegations are out there. They're published. You can't blackmail people after you go public.</quote> Why not If she said "Sorry gang, I was young and confused, after a heartfelt talk with Dustin I realized I was remembering things wrong. I'm sorry to him and to all his fans" then that would be more than enough to have the public forgive him. <cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>Surprise surprise Mal is on the "women do this for attention and to get paid out" train as if he wasn't already enough of a joke </quote> Oliver said "She has no reason to lie". Of course she has a reason to lie. I don't know if she is or not since no due process has taken place, but to say that she for sure is 100% not lying requires an amount of delusion so powerful that only a self-important wannabe pundit could manage it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 12/05/17 9:50:16 PM #48:	Mal is just mad that John Oliver is a liberal. If a conservative was asking Hoffman the same questions he wouldnt care. --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:891666586] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote>Mal is just mad that John Oliver is a liberal. If a conservative was asking Hoffman the same questions he wouldnt care.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 12/05/17 9:50:42 PM #49:	Mal_Fet posted... If she said "Sorry gang, I was young and confused, after a heartfelt talk with Dustin I realized I was remembering things wrong. I'm sorry to him and to all his fans" then that would be more than enough to have the public forgive him. The diary is from 30 years ago. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:891666606] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>If she said "Sorry gang, I was young and confused, after a heartfelt talk with Dustin I realized I was remembering things wrong. I'm sorry to him and to all his fans" then that would be more than enough to have the public forgive him.</quote> The diary is from 30 years ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/05/17 9:51:34 PM #50:	sktgamer_13dude posted... Mal is just mad that John Oliver is a liberal. If a conservative was asking Hoffman the same questions he wouldnt care. Why is the idea that someone genuinely cares about due process before condemning someone so challenging for you --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:891666652] in John Olive... [t:76066500]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>Mal is just mad that John Oliver is a liberal. If a conservative was asking Hoffman the same questions he wouldnt care.</quote> Why is the idea that someone genuinely cares about due process before condemning someone so challenging for you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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