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ModLogic 12/03/17 2:20:35 PM #1: |
https://goo.gl/QRMhFy
cant stop drug users using drugs. better to provide a safe environment for them and access to supervision. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 12/03/17 2:22:02 PM #2: |
Why are we protecting people that are doing that to themselves...
We need to let Darwinism take place, not protect those that Darwinism would normally eliminate. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ArchiePeck 12/03/17 2:22:06 PM #3: |
Studies have shown that this is far most cost effective than what tax payers end up footing the bill for when people OD in an alleyway or whatever.
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darkjedilink 12/03/17 2:59:28 PM #4: |
ModLogic posted...
https://goo.gl/QRMhFy Can't stop murders, rapists, and serial killers from murdering, raping, and serial killing. Better to provide a safe environment for them and access to supervision. Seriously, this argument is wholly bullshit. I'm generally under the idea that as long as you aren't harming someone else physically, do what you want, but the idea that we should use government funds to allow people to harm themselves "under supervision" because we can't stop them is just completely asinine, and anyone who makes such an argument is clearly intellectually deficient. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 12/03/17 3:00:03 PM #5: |
Dustin1280 posted...
Why are we protecting people that are doing that to themselves... Liberals just can't allow Darwinism. They'd lose their voter bloc. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IdiotMachine 12/03/17 3:03:25 PM #6: |
Dustin1280 posted...
Why are we protecting people that are doing that to themselves... Because making sure they do this safely costs less money than taking care of them when they overdose or get sicker. If you want your "Darwinism" to come to fruition, you need to disallow treatment completely. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 12/03/17 3:04:47 PM #7: |
darkjedilink posted...
ModLogic posted...https://goo.gl/QRMhFy All of those things you listed hurt other people, drug use doesn't, especially if it's in a controlled environment And people ODing costs the government more money than this does --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 12/03/17 3:05:07 PM #8: |
darkjedilink posted...
ModLogic posted...https://goo.gl/QRMhFy The alternatives are more expensive. We're spending taxpayer money regardless, this not only allows them to be in a safer environment but it saves money. Win/win. Until all drugs are decriminalized at least. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 12/03/17 3:05:24 PM #9: |
IdiotMachine posted...
Dustin1280 posted...Why are we protecting people that are doing that to themselves... Any further talk on this matter will get me modded. I will say that if this has proven to be potentially cheaper then taking care of addicts who otherwise OD it at least has SOME logical backing behind it. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 12/03/17 3:06:29 PM #10: |
thronedfire2 posted...
darkjedilink posted...ModLogic posted...https://goo.gl/QRMhFy The fuck it doesn't. People, as a general rule, do drugs because of mental problems. Mental problems that their loved ones are watching themselves slowly kill eachother over. You gonna tell a six-year-old girl who's dad died from a meth overdose to stop crying because she isn't really hurt? That's not even getting into all the people hurt and killed for that guy to get his meth in the first place. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 12/03/17 3:08:03 PM #11: |
darkjedilink posted...
ModLogic posted...https://goo.gl/QRMhFy Comparing drug use to murder is pretty damn stupid --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RE_expert44 12/03/17 3:10:00 PM #13: |
IdiotMachine posted...
Dustin1280 posted...Why are we protecting people that are doing that to themselves... For people who OD they should have that 3 strike system in place nationwide. After 3 times they get cut off the narcan and they get to handle it solo. --- RESIDENT EVIL COMMUNITY BOARD http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1074-resident-evil-past-present-and-future ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 12/03/17 3:11:43 PM #14: |
Sparksfanboy posted...
darkjedilink posted...thronedfire2 posted...darkjedilink posted...ModLogic posted...https://goo.gl/QRMhFy Care to link that? As a matter of fact, link to a single slur I've EVER made. And who the fuck is Zeraora? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ColdOne666 12/03/17 3:12:01 PM #15: |
Dustin1280 posted...
Why are we protecting people that are doing that to themselves... darkjedilink posted... Can't stop murders, rapists, and serial killers from murdering, raping, and serial killing. Better to provide a safe environment for them and access to supervision. This. Let the morons kill themselves. --- FFX is the best game of all time. The only good Nintendo franchises are Pokemon and Fire Emblem. Comics are for kids. https://i.imgur.com/LJ3WSyB.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 12/03/17 3:12:05 PM #16: |
FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...ModLogic posted...https://goo.gl/QRMhFy Considering the overlap.... --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 12/03/17 3:14:09 PM #17: |
Considering the overlap....
They're two fundamentally different acts. You might as well compare tax evasion to grand theft auto or some shit --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 12/03/17 3:15:07 PM #18: |
FrisbeeDude posted...
Considering the overlap.... How many murderers in prison have never done drugs? Better question - how many murders in America are related to the drug trade? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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powerman1426 12/03/17 3:15:27 PM #19: |
There was a little girl who died from dehydration/ starvation because both parents od
Maybe if they were somewhere like that it wouldn't have happened --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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glitteringfairy 12/03/17 3:15:47 PM #20: |
FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...ModLogic posted...https://goo.gl/QRMhFy It's not all that stupid. A good percentage of murders are a direct result of drug use because druggies commit crimes to fuel their habit and if murdering somebody for $15 is what they gotta do then they'll do it --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y http://i.imgur.com/AqR3aeX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vvuUXpp.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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powerman1426 12/03/17 3:16:51 PM #21: |
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...Considering the overlap.... A lot. Straw man tho --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iamintents 12/03/17 3:17:23 PM #22: |
ModLogic posted...
cant stop drug users using drugs. better to provide a safe environment for them and access to supervision. exactly. its proven to work in amsterdam where overdoses and drug related crime have dropped drastically. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 12/03/17 3:19:37 PM #23: |
powerman1426 posted...
darkjedilink posted...FrisbeeDude posted...Considering the overlap.... No, not really. If the argument is that "you can't stop it, so we need to spend government money to allow it to happen," there's literally no crime you can't apply that logic to. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ColdOne666 12/03/17 3:20:09 PM #24: |
powerman1426 posted...
There was a little girl who died from dehydration/ starvation because both parents od No the parents were morons who would of killed themselves anyway. Kid is better if without them. --- FFX is the best game of all time. The only good Nintendo franchises are Pokemon and Fire Emblem. Comics are for kids. https://i.imgur.com/LJ3WSyB.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trayvon 12/03/17 3:20:10 PM #25: |
sounds good.
treat it like a health issue making sure they get clean stuff and not Ajax injected in them. hopefully ween them off it slowly. and it means these addicts don't need to be robbing, mugging, stealing, nagging people for money to get their fix since they can get it for free. also means it takes business away from the local thugs who bump up their prices which causes addicts to commit more crime to make up the money they need for their fix which they will definitely do anything for. like why go to the local corner thug who charges an arm and a leg when you can go to a safe space for a free fix. these thugs then gotta go find something else to do, hopefully get real jobs instead of drug slinging and killing each other over corner territory. for reals though, sounds aight ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ArchiePeck 12/03/17 3:21:22 PM #26: |
I love how there are still people, about thirty five years after Ronald Reagan declared a "war on drugs" and NOTHING HAS IMPROVED, that a zero tolerance approach is a good way to go.
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FrisbeeDude 12/03/17 3:22:51 PM #27: |
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...Considering the overlap.... Killing someone over drugs is not the same as a person simply doing drugs. It's like comparing drinking to drinking and driving --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 12/03/17 3:23:06 PM #28: |
Let people who OD resolve their own issues, don't help them.
Sucks for their family, but society is better off. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ModLogic 12/03/17 3:24:22 PM #29: |
why i support tobacco programs in schools. if kids have free access to cigarettes at school food courts then it loses the forbidden cool factor. reduce smoking and provode smokers education on safe cigarette use.
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darkjedilink 12/03/17 3:24:41 PM #30: |
ArchiePeck posted...
I love how there are still people, about thirty five years after Ronald Reagan declared a "war on drugs" and NOTHING HAS IMPROVED, that a zero tolerance approach is a good way to go. I'm not arguing "zero tolerance." I'm arguing that the government shouldn't pay to allow people to commit illegal activities. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SRR Capdown 12/03/17 3:27:09 PM #31: |
ArchiePeck posted...
Studies have shown that this is far most cost effective than what tax payers end up footing the bill for when people OD in an alleyway or whatever. Same as when you house, support and provide jobs for the homeless, rather than arrest them or move them on to a new area. But who cares about the long term effects and benefits, when in the short term it might cost a few people a bit more money. --- Fire Bucket ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 12/03/17 3:29:16 PM #33: |
darkjedilink posted...
Dustin1280 posted...Why are we protecting people that are doing that to themselves... Most drug convictions are felonious and result in a life long loss of voter rights --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SRR Capdown 12/03/17 3:29:39 PM #34: |
ArchiePeck posted...
I love how there are still people, about thirty five years after Ronald Reagan declared a "war on drugs" and NOTHING HAS IMPROVED, that a zero tolerance approach is a good way to go. Especially if you look at Portugal as an example. They completely reformed their drug legalisation and how they deal with drug addicts. Decriminalising most drugs and offering support snd safety for addicts. The addiction rate has dropped significantly, going from.being one of Europe's.highesy to one.of the lowest. --- Fire Bucket ... Copied to Clipboard!
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powerman1426 12/03/17 3:30:41 PM #35: |
ColdOne666 posted...
powerman1426 posted...There was a little girl who died from dehydration/ starvation because both parents od Uh dead, not sure she's really better off --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 12/03/17 3:38:21 PM #36: |
gunplagirl posted...
darkjedilink posted...Dustin1280 posted...Why are we protecting people that are doing that to themselves... Not true at all. Most drug convictions are misdemeanors, and even felony charges don't make you lose your right to vote forever - only until your case is discharged. Finish your sentence, and your voting rights are reinstated. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ColdOne666 12/03/17 3:50:11 PM #38: |
Trayvon posted...
sounds good. Lol what a joke, lets hand out free drugs. Brilliant idea sarcasm. --- FFX is the best game of all time. The only good Nintendo franchises are Pokemon and Fire Emblem. Comics are for kids. https://i.imgur.com/LJ3WSyB.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CanuckCowboy 12/03/17 3:50:43 PM #39: |
Dustin1280 posted...
Why are we protecting people that are doing that to themselves... If you ignore logic facts and stats that would make sense. --- "I got a rollatruc, look." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CanuckCowboy 12/03/17 3:52:29 PM #40: |
tote_all posted...
A lot of keyboard edgelords who don't understand medical practice passing judgement here. Or even basic reality. They've had safe injection sites here for a good while now and it's seen an increase in people getting off drugs, being able to function as productive members of society, and has drastically lowered the burden on the healthcare system. But if you ignore all that then yeah fuck this is a terrible idea. Wait... --- "I got a rollatruc, look." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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powerman1426 12/03/17 3:53:44 PM #41: |
ColdOne666 posted...
Trayvon posted...sounds good. And your solution is? We're locking them up or resurrecting them after overdosing, at extreme expense. What should be done? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CanuckCowboy 12/03/17 3:53:45 PM #42: |
darkjedilink posted...
ModLogic posted...https://goo.gl/QRMhFy Imagine writing this and not realizing you were writing the stupidest shit ever said. --- "I got a rollatruc, look." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WaffIeElite 12/03/17 4:20:17 PM #43: |
C'mon, why hasn't Trump fixed this yet?
Too busy getting cucked by Mueller I guess. --- I have a signature. Apparently this is important, but I still don't have my secret cool kid decoder ring yet. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 12/03/17 4:28:55 PM #44: |
darkjedilink posted...
ModLogic posted...https://goo.gl/QRMhFy Do you understand what a victimless crime is? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChainedRedone 12/03/17 8:06:12 PM #45: |
Dustin1280 posted...
Why are we protecting people that are doing that to themselves... So then we should legalize drugs and let them kill themselves off, right? Glad you agree with liberals on something. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CarlGrimes 12/03/17 8:09:57 PM #46: |
They need to legalize medical ibogaine if they actually want to combat this opiod crisis.
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Slaya4 12/03/17 8:14:30 PM #48: |
Good. One of the few things I can agree on with the government getting involved in.
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EyeWontBeFooled 12/03/17 8:18:05 PM #49: |
FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...ModLogic posted...https://goo.gl/QRMhFy Yep, like, HOLY FALSE EQUIVALENCY BATMAN! --- Welcome to the Brave New World of 1984! Current temp: Fahrenheit 451 It's never a bad day, and always a good night, so BE HAPPY and enjoy your stay! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChainedRedone 12/03/17 8:22:01 PM #50: |
WhinyZach posted...
I've had this argument a few times. Liberals love to take the moral high ground, as long as it doesnt affect them. I've never heard a liberal say they wouldn't let one open near their house. You're making shit up. Sad! --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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