Current Events > Did Captain America's team have any business 'winning' in the airport battle?

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Muffinz0rz 12/02/17 8:20:31 PM #1:	I put "winning" in quotes because Cap was successful in escaping Stark and being turned in. Team Cap: Captain America, Spoiler Soldier, Scarlet Witch, Ant-Man, Falcon, Hawkeye Team Stark: Iron Man, Vision, Black Widow, Black Panther, Spiderman, War Machine View Results Who would've actually won if they didn't need plot to ensure Cap's team winning? --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (7-5): https://i.imgur.com/MFjssIC.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:891477030] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote> I put "winning" in quotes because Cap was successful in escaping Stark and being turned in. Team Cap: Captain America, Spoiler Soldier, Scarlet Witch, Ant-Man, Falcon, Hawkeye Team Stark: Iron Man, Vision, Black Widow, Black Panther, Spiderman, War Machine View Results Who would've actually won if they didn't need plot to ensure Cap's team winning?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 12/02/17 8:21:16 PM #2:	Scarlet witch could just destroy everyone at the molecular level if she wanted to. --- http://i.imgur.com/Rqk1DYV.gif - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:891477075] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote>Scarlet witch could just destroy everyone at the molecular level if she wanted to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShadowStarEdge 12/02/17 8:21:24 PM #3:	Scarlet Witch is broken so still Cap's team <cite>ShadowStarEdge posted [p:891477086] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote>Scarlet Witch is broken so still Cap's team</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Offworlder1 12/02/17 8:21:34 PM #4:	Team Captain America --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" <cite>Offworlder1 posted [p:891477098] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote>Team Captain America</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xelltrix 12/02/17 8:26:14 PM #6:	Since none of them are playing to kill, Spidey being a novice but really really strong and Vision being there should be enough to beat everyone on the other side except maybe Scarlet. Scarlet Witch in this verse has some pretty strong powers but she's been taken down by surprise or just be sheer speed before so either of them could potentially take her down. --- Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea <cite>Xelltrix posted [p:891477323] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote>Since none of them are playing to kill, Spidey being a novice but really really strong and Vision being there should be enough to beat everyone on the other side except maybe Scarlet. Scarlet Witch in this verse has some pretty strong powers but she's been taken down by surprise or just be sheer speed before so either of them could potentially take her down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wedge Antilles 12/02/17 8:26:42 PM #7:	Tony's team should have taken it. Cap's only powerful fighter is SW and she's depowered like most MCU characters. --- I used the knife. I saved a child. I won a war. God forgive me. <cite>Wedge Antilles posted [p:891477349] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote>Tony's team should have taken it. Cap's only powerful fighter is SW and she's depowered like most MCU characters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 12/02/17 8:44:31 PM #8:	Also why did Black Panther not end up in prison either? He ends up on his own quinjet to follow Bucky, but wasn't arrested for attempted murder? He was fighting to kill, there's no doubt about that. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (7-5): https://i.imgur.com/MFjssIC.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:891478283] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote>Also why did Black Panther not end up in prison either? He ends up on his own quinjet to follow Bucky, but wasn't arrested for attempted murder? He was fighting to kill, there's no doubt about that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JxOxNxIxCxS 12/02/17 8:45:44 PM #9:	Muffinz0rz posted... Also why did Black Panther not end up in prison either? He ends up on his own quinjet to follow Bucky, but wasn't arrested for attempted murder? He was fighting to kill, there's no doubt about that. Because he wuz kangz --- http://i.imgur.com/vcAEBhO.jpg <cite>JxOxNxIxCxS posted [p:891478359] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>Also why did Black Panther not end up in prison either? He ends up on his own quinjet to follow Bucky, but wasn't arrested for attempted murder? He was fighting to kill, there's no doubt about that.</quote> Because he wuz kangz</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jswift254 12/02/17 8:46:49 PM #10:	Muffinz0rz posted... Also why did Black Panther not end up in prison either? He ends up on his own quinjet to follow Bucky, but wasn't arrested for attempted murder? He was fighting to kill, there's no doubt about that. Trying to kill a criminal wanted for multiple murders. Probably had diplomatic immunity as well --- All GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!! http://i.imgur.com/VrXcrJx.gif <cite>Jswift254 posted [p:891478415] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>Also why did Black Panther not end up in prison either? He ends up on his own quinjet to follow Bucky, but wasn't arrested for attempted murder? He was fighting to kill, there's no doubt about that.</quote> Trying to kill a criminal wanted for multiple murders. Probably had diplomatic immunity as well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nevershine 12/02/17 8:48:07 PM #11:	Team Stark is where it's at, mang --- "There are no men like me. There's only me."-Jaime Lannister <cite>nevershine posted [p:891478489] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote>Team Stark is where it's at, mang</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 12/02/17 8:54:07 PM #12:	Muffinz0rz posted... Also why did Black Panther not end up in prison either? He ends up on his own quinjet to follow Bucky, but wasn't arrested for attempted murder? He was fighting to kill, there's no doubt about that. Just like the bad guy from Lethal Weapon 2, He's got diplomatic immunity, so Hammer you can't sue. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:891478765] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>Also why did Black Panther not end up in prison either? He ends up on his own quinjet to follow Bucky, but wasn't arrested for attempted murder? He was fighting to kill, there's no doubt about that.</quote> Just like the bad guy from Lethal Weapon 2, He's got diplomatic immunity, so Hammer you can't sue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 12/02/17 8:58:38 PM #13:	Jswift254 posted... diplomatic immunity jumi posted... diplomatic immunity Fair enough, I guess he did technically become king --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (7-5): https://i.imgur.com/MFjssIC.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:891478996] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jswift254 posted...</cite> <quote>diplomatic immunity</quote> <cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote>diplomatic immunity</quote> Fair enough, I guess he did technically become king</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Izual_Reborn 12/02/17 9:02:36 PM #14:	Kinda felt like there was no reason for that fight. --- We have no empathy, and we expect none from you. When the terror comes, we will make no excuses. RIP Deno <cite>Izual_Reborn posted [p:891479192] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote>Kinda felt like there was no reason for that fight.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xelltrix 12/02/17 9:05:26 PM #15:	Izual_Reborn posted... Kinda felt like there was no reason for that fight. I'm trying to remember the context of why Cap's team was at the airport, I guess that was the only place with a plane they could get? Either way, there was a need for the fight once they actually arrived there because Tony's team was trying to subdue and bring in Cap's team. Cap's team was trying to run away to stop the main villain. If Cap just spent less time talking about "you don't understand, my friend's innocent" and more time talking about the actual proof maybe he could have convinced Tony sooner. Maybe not though. --- Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea <cite>Xelltrix posted [p:891479305] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote><cite>Izual_Reborn posted...</cite> <quote>Kinda felt like there was no reason for that fight.</quote> I'm trying to remember the context of why Cap's team was at the airport, I guess that was the only place with a plane they could get? Either way, there was a need for the fight once they actually arrived there because Tony's team was trying to subdue and bring in Cap's team. Cap's team was trying to run away to stop the main villain. If Cap just spent less time talking about "you don't understand, my friend's innocent" and more time talking about the actual proof maybe he could have convinced Tony sooner. Maybe not though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 12/02/17 9:08:23 PM #16:	Xelltrix posted... I'm trying to remember the context of why Cap's team was at the airport, I guess that was the only place with a plane they could get? The first shot of them at the airport is Cap pulling up into the parking garage with Bucky and Falcon, where he meets Hawkeye and Scarlet Witch in the van with Ant-Man sleeping in the back. There really was no context or explanation. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (7-5): https://i.imgur.com/MFjssIC.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:891479441] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote>I'm trying to remember the context of why Cap's team was at the airport, I guess that was the only place with a plane they could get?</quote> The first shot of them at the airport is Cap pulling up into the parking garage with Bucky and Falcon, where he meets Hawkeye and Scarlet Witch in the van with Ant-Man sleeping in the back. There really was no context or explanation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 12/02/17 9:17:43 PM #17:	JustMyOpinion posted... Vision could solo everyone but for some reason did nothing. Iron Man should have soloed everyone but the witch. Spiderman is not a jobber. Yeah, Stark should have won that. Cause he accidentally hurt Scarlet Witch, which of course shut him down. Otherwise he would have stomped. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:891479865] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote><cite>JustMyOpinion posted...</cite> <quote>Vision could solo everyone but for some reason did nothing. Iron Man should have soloed everyone but the witch. Spiderman is not a jobber. Yeah, Stark should have won that.</quote> Cause he accidentally hurt Scarlet Witch, which of course shut him down. Otherwise he would have stomped.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 12/02/17 9:18:54 PM #18:	chrono625 posted... Scarlet witch could just destroy everyone at the molecular level if she wanted to. This. She can literally reassemble reality. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:891479923] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote><cite>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote>Scarlet witch could just destroy everyone at the molecular level if she wanted to.</quote> This. She can literally reassemble reality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fusespliff 12/02/17 9:23:01 PM #19:	TheCyborgNinja posted... chrono625 posted... Scarlet witch could just destroy everyone at the molecular level if she wanted to. This. She can literally reassemble reality. MCU Scarlet Witch hasn't shown anything of the sort. No reality warping chaos magic, no hex bolts,... She seems like a mid level telepath/telekinetic --- ... <cite>fusespliff posted [p:891480125] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheCyborgNinja posted...</cite> <quote><cite>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote>Scarlet witch could just destroy everyone at the molecular level if she wanted to.</quote> This. She can literally reassemble reality.</quote> MCU Scarlet Witch hasn't shown anything of the sort. No reality warping chaos magic, no hex bolts,... She seems like a mid level telepath/telekinetic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xelltrix 12/02/17 9:25:02 PM #20:	Wanda's powers were always fairly ill-defined. --- Reading this post may induce one or more of the following: Nausea / Butt-Hurt / Lulz / UM? Syndrome / Angst / Diarrhea <cite>Xelltrix posted [p:891480219] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote>Wanda's powers were always fairly ill-defined.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 12/02/17 9:29:55 PM #21:	Xelltrix posted... Izual_Reborn posted... Kinda felt like there was no reason for that fight. I'm trying to remember the context of why Cap's team was at the airport, I guess that was the only place with a plane they could get? Either way, there was a need for the fight once they actually arrived there because Tony's team was trying to subdue and bring in Cap's team. Cap's team was trying to run away to stop the main villain. If Cap just spent less time talking about "you don't understand, my friend's innocent" and more time talking about the actual proof maybe he could have convinced Tony sooner. Maybe not though. They agreed to meet at the airport to discuss terms. They picked a place with no civilian presence in case shit got real. --- http://i.imgur.com/Rqk1DYV.gif - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:891480445] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Izual_Reborn posted...</cite> <quote>Kinda felt like there was no reason for that fight.</quote> I'm trying to remember the context of why Cap's team was at the airport, I guess that was the only place with a plane they could get? Either way, there was a need for the fight once they actually arrived there because Tony's team was trying to subdue and bring in Cap's team. Cap's team was trying to run away to stop the main villain. If Cap just spent less time talking about "you don't understand, my friend's innocent" and more time talking about the actual proof maybe he could have convinced Tony sooner. Maybe not though.</quote> They agreed to meet at the airport to discuss terms. They picked a place with no civilian presence in case shit got real.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreveraIone 12/02/17 9:31:53 PM #22:	the vision is powered by the same source that gave MCU Wanda her powers. he is easily more powerful than she is. --- http://i.imgtc.com/qieELu9.jpg Always. Edgy. <cite>foreveraIone posted [p:891480544] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote>the vision is powered by the same source that gave MCU Wanda her powers. he is easily more powerful than she is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Akagami_Shanks 12/02/17 9:34:45 PM #23:	Spiderman jobbed pretty hard tbh Spiderman always jobs in media compared to what he should be able to do. --- http://i.imgur.com/MFTpPuq.jpg <cite>Akagami_Shanks posted [p:891480677] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote>Spiderman jobbed pretty hard tbh Spiderman always jobs in media compared to what he should be able to do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fusespliff 12/02/17 9:35:37 PM #24:	Xelltrix posted... Wanda's powers were always fairly ill-defined. True, but MCU Wanda hasn't shown anything but "move thing with mind" and "fuck with other mind". I highly doubt she'll ever get her reality warping abilities --- ... <cite>fusespliff posted [p:891480717] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote><cite>Xelltrix posted...</cite> <quote>Wanda's powers were always fairly ill-defined.</quote> True, but MCU Wanda hasn't shown anything but "move thing with mind" and "fuck with other mind". I highly doubt she'll ever get her reality warping abilities</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 12/02/17 9:37:04 PM #25:	Akagami_Shanks posted... Spiderman jobbed pretty hard tbh Spiderman always jobs in media compared to what he should be able to do. Yeah he easily took down Falcon and Bucky 2v1 no problem --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (7-5): https://i.imgur.com/MFjssIC.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:891480783] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote><cite>Akagami_Shanks posted...</cite> <quote>Spiderman jobbed pretty hard tbh Spiderman always jobs in media compared to what he should be able to do.</quote> Yeah he easily took down Falcon and Bucky 2v1 no problem</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 12/02/17 9:39:17 PM #26:	Muffinz0rz posted... Akagami_Shanks posted... Spiderman jobbed pretty hard tbh Spiderman always jobs in media compared to what he should be able to do. Yeah he easily took down Falcon and Bucky 2v1 no problem Falcon is a normal dude, Bucky is cap level strength. So it isn't surprising he took them on pretty handily. --- http://i.imgur.com/Rqk1DYV.gif - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:891480885] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Akagami_Shanks posted...</cite> <quote>Spiderman jobbed pretty hard tbh Spiderman always jobs in media compared to what he should be able to do.</quote> Yeah he easily took down Falcon and Bucky 2v1 no problem</quote> Falcon is a normal dude, Bucky is cap level strength. So it isn't surprising he took them on pretty handily.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 12/02/17 9:43:14 PM #27:	chrono625 posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Akagami_Shanks posted... Spiderman jobbed pretty hard tbh Spiderman always jobs in media compared to what he should be able to do. Yeah he easily took down Falcon and Bucky 2v1 no problem Falcon is a normal dude, Bucky is cap level strength. So it isn't surprising he took them on pretty handily. True but Cap absolutely bodied him when the two of them faced off later in the sequence. I think Spidey got one clean shot in when he said "He [Tony] told me to go for your legs!" and it was all Cap after that All it really took to disable Falcon was one web blast at his wings anyways --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (7-5): https://i.imgur.com/MFjssIC.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:891481060] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote><cite>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Akagami_Shanks posted...</cite> <quote>Spiderman jobbed pretty hard tbh Spiderman always jobs in media compared to what he should be able to do.</quote> Yeah he easily took down Falcon and Bucky 2v1 no problem</quote> Falcon is a normal dude, Bucky is cap level strength. So it isn't surprising he took them on pretty handily.</quote> True but Cap absolutely bodied him when the two of them faced off later in the sequence. I think Spidey got one clean shot in when he said "He [Tony] told me to go for your legs!" and it was all Cap after that All it really took to disable Falcon was one web blast at his wings anyways</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 12/02/17 9:44:12 PM #28:	Muffinz0rz posted... chrono625 posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Akagami_Shanks posted... Spiderman jobbed pretty hard tbh Spiderman always jobs in media compared to what he should be able to do. Yeah he easily took down Falcon and Bucky 2v1 no problem Falcon is a normal dude, Bucky is cap level strength. So it isn't surprising he took them on pretty handily. True but Cap absolutely bodied him when the two of them faced off later in the sequence All it really took to disable Falcon was one web blast at his wings anyways Cap is a better all around soldier and fighter than Bucky. Even though their strength is comparable, cap is just better in every other way. --- http://i.imgur.com/Rqk1DYV.gif - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:891481106] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Akagami_Shanks posted...</cite> <quote>Spiderman jobbed pretty hard tbh Spiderman always jobs in media compared to what he should be able to do.</quote> Yeah he easily took down Falcon and Bucky 2v1 no problem</quote> Falcon is a normal dude, Bucky is cap level strength. So it isn't surprising he took them on pretty handily.</quote> True but Cap absolutely bodied him when the two of them faced off later in the sequence All it really took to disable Falcon was one web blast at his wings anyways</quote> Cap is a better all around soldier and fighter than Bucky. Even though their strength is comparable, cap is just better in every other way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 12/02/17 9:44:54 PM #29:	chrono625 posted... Muffinz0rz posted... chrono625 posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Akagami_Shanks posted... Spiderman jobbed pretty hard tbh Spiderman always jobs in media compared to what he should be able to do. Yeah he easily took down Falcon and Bucky 2v1 no problem Falcon is a normal dude, Bucky is cap level strength. So it isn't surprising he took them on pretty handily. True but Cap absolutely bodied him when the two of them faced off later in the sequence All it really took to disable Falcon was one web blast at his wings anyways Cap is a better all around soldier and fighter than Bucky. Even though their strength is comparable, cap is just better in every other way. True --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad (7-5): https://i.imgur.com/MFjssIC.png (Updated Weekly) <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:891481142] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote><cite>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Akagami_Shanks posted...</cite> <quote>Spiderman jobbed pretty hard tbh Spiderman always jobs in media compared to what he should be able to do.</quote> Yeah he easily took down Falcon and Bucky 2v1 no problem</quote> Falcon is a normal dude, Bucky is cap level strength. So it isn't surprising he took them on pretty handily.</quote> True but Cap absolutely bodied him when the two of them faced off later in the sequence All it really took to disable Falcon was one web blast at his wings anyways</quote> Cap is a better all around soldier and fighter than Bucky. Even though their strength is comparable, cap is just better in every other way.</quote> True</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master Kazuya 12/02/17 9:45:24 PM #30:	MCU, Stark's team would win. Comics, Cap's team would win. Unless you take out Scarlet Witch from the team, then Stark's team would win. --- itt my post is the best <cite>Master Kazuya posted [p:891481163] in Did Captai... [t:76055493]...</cite> <quote>MCU, Stark's team would win. Comics, Cap's team would win. Unless you take out Scarlet Witch from the team, then Stark's team would win.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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