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ChromaticAngel 11/26/17 12:30:10 PM #102: |
username191 posted...
Everybody who's saying Kimahri, what did you make him? If your answer to "make Kimahri good" is to take other people's sphere grid then that means he sucks, you realize that, right? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thanosibe 11/26/17 12:31:11 PM #103: |
Yuffie
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Runeboggle 11/26/17 12:40:19 PM #104: |
ChromaticAngel posted...
Wasn't he made to be able to access anyone's grid, since he starts in the middle and has a very small one of his own? --- Si || 4670791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unknown5uspect 11/26/17 12:43:10 PM #105: |
Aeriis posted...
DirkDiggles posted...Nobody mentioned Kongol from Legend of Dragoon yet? He can at least be useful with unnecessarily immense investment. His base 30 speed coupled with his high HP/Defense stats make him a good recipient of Pandaemonium too, if you care to utilize that item. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cleo_II 11/26/17 12:45:03 PM #106: |
Penelo from FF12
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Musourenka 11/26/17 12:48:22 PM #107: |
thanosibe posted...
Yuffie No. Selphie Yes. Either she or Quistis is the worst of the main six. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Holy_Cloud105 11/26/17 12:52:55 PM #108: |
Runeboggle posted...
ChromaticAngel posted... Yes, but in FFX everyone can learn everything and it comes down to overdrives. His stats suck too so there's no reason to use him over anyone. His only bonus is that he can learn Ultima before everyone else. --- Official Aqua of the Kingdom Hearts 3 board. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thanosibe 11/26/17 12:54:57 PM #109: |
Musourenka posted...
thanosibe posted...You don't get to talk about Quistis that way you stupidhead!Yuffie --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unknown5uspect 11/26/17 12:56:28 PM #110: |
Holy_Cloud105 posted...
Runeboggle posted...ChromaticAngel posted... And Ultima isn't even a move worth a damn in FFX anyway so his early access to it doesn't mean much. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nexigrams 11/26/17 1:01:49 PM #111: |
Literally 99% of the memory on Chrono Cross is packed with useless party members. Such a bad game.
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scar the 1 11/26/17 1:03:56 PM #112: |
saspa posted...
Yeah but is it worth it to acquire when the time it takes to acquire we'd already be powerful enough or have had access to higher tier aga spells? Most useful Enemy Skills in VII are pretty painless to get. V is a little worse, but definitely worth it. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lagfile 11/26/17 1:24:54 PM #113: |
dragnmaninferno posted...
Goombario from Paper Mario. I'd say Kooper is worse than Goombario. Kooper can be flipped (rarely happens, but it can happen), can't attack airbone enemies, and if you want attacks that consume FP that are fullscreen, Parakarry, Sushie and Bombette attacks are all better. He doesn't bring any utility in battle, Bow can make you invulnerable to damage and can do a lot more damage than Kooper with the same amount of FP in Ultra Rank, Lakilester can attack anyone and anything in the field with no FP and can give you an evasion boost (via FP), Watt pierces defences with no FP cost and gives you attack boost (via FP), Sushi can attack airbone enemies and gives you defence boost (via FP) and can attack anyone in the field for a mere 3 FP, Bombette does more damage than Kooper and has a better field ability for initiating battles, and if you want, you can stall battle long enough for Goombario to deal insane damage. Kooper is just a useless party member in that game. --- What sounds better, cool or nice? http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/128/388/18b.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tUJUZ.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordFarquad1312 11/26/17 1:33:47 PM #114: |
Vincent.
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TheCurseX2 11/26/17 1:43:14 PM #115: |
Yuffie is objectively worse than every FF7 party member.
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gunplagirl 11/26/17 1:43:36 PM #116: |
If we include the international content for ffx, lulu is actually worse than kimahri at end game. But useless would mostly focus on in game content.
Therefore, I have to say Edward. In speed runs, my route actually had me want him to die after one or two encounters in the antlions den area. He actually throws off the turn counter by a few ticks and those precious fractions of a second add up quickly. More than that, if he doesn't die then he runs to hide and that takes up more time. At least he has nice effects on the harps he can equip but hell if they actually help during the early game where everything should die from 2-3 hits by cecil and yang, and bosses are not affected. Plus his animation for attacking is long. And he drains exp since it's split between all party members alive at the end of a battle. So even in normal runs, he still is ass and probably harmful. The only exception being the DS version and that's only because yay new mechanics boo most are just red light green light for when to attack and he's there as your buffer. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 11/26/17 1:49:50 PM #117: |
Cleo_II posted...
Penelo from FF12 For story contributions, maybe. For battles? In the izjs especially, she's average but the differences between optimized jobs and ones that don't fit is miniscule, with healers being the only exception because half the cast is slightly slower with gun animations but then, they were never meant to be a nominal source of damage to begin with outside of low level runs --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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username191 11/26/17 1:59:10 PM #118: |
Holy_Cloud105 posted...
Runeboggle posted...ChromaticAngel posted... I was talking more about the main story line and some post-game content where 99% of the game is played. You don't get Ultima during this time, but you can definitely make use of a second steal/user, his HP + armor makes him a good magic sponge for To be fair, he has Evade and Counter IIRC, which is a good ability on his ultimate weapon. He's not bad in the late game, but if that's the metric we're going by, then obviously Wakka/Tidus/Rikku are the only characters that matter. The only real downside to Kimahri is that the game doesn't allow you to experiment with him. You have to choose a path for him near the beginning and can't really test out other options. --- FFX: NSGNS, KO, YO, WO, LO*, AOOSG, ROOSG*, RODA*, TOOSGNC, TODA* *In progress ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 11/26/17 2:09:45 PM #119: |
TheCurseX2 posted...
Yuffie is objectively worse than every FF7 party member. Not by any stretch, lol --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Musourenka 11/26/17 2:14:57 PM #120: |
TheCurseX2 posted...
Yuffie is objectively worse than every FF7 party member. Nah. She's third or fourth best character. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YoungMutual 11/26/17 2:15:05 PM #121: |
Rika_Furude posted...
They never really died for me outside of one specific boss where they rivalled donald and goofy And that's your own fault for playing shitty button mashing crossover fanservice games like Kingdom Hearts where the characters don't even properly mix. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thanosibe 11/26/17 2:27:31 PM #122: |
TheCurseX2 posted...
Yuffie is objectively worse than every FF7 party member.Yes. In battle and in story. Probably the most useless FF character ever. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 11/26/17 2:29:00 PM #123: |
thanosibe posted...
TheCurseX2 posted...Yuffie is objectively worse than every FF7 party member.Yes. In battle and in story. Probably the most useless FF character ever. lol nope. Not even close. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pres_madagascar 11/26/17 2:32:49 PM #124: |
Half the cast of ff8.
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LordFarquad1312 11/26/17 2:33:02 PM #125: |
Yuffie has the 4th strongest limit break, which at end game, is the only thing that makes the characters unique.
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hollow_shrine 11/26/17 2:35:01 PM #126: |
TheCurseX2 posted...
Yuffie is objectively worse than every FF7 party member. Objectively better* The Conformer is broken af. Always hits for 9999 when it matters and does no dmg to the party if she's confused. I think Cait Sith might be the worst because his limits are random unless you cheat and none of them are as good as the rest of the cast. Also his final weapon mechanic is the same as Cloud's without Clouds limits. --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 11/26/17 3:06:13 PM #127: |
YoungMutual posted...
Rika_Furude posted...They never really died for me outside of one specific boss where they rivalled donald and goofy Uhhh what --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bover_87 11/26/17 3:10:11 PM #128: |
TheCurseX2 posted...
Yuffie is objectively worse than every FF7 party member. Tifa exists --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. ~ [FFRK] rcr6 - Chosen Traveler/Shout/Army of One ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AuthenticZac 11/26/17 3:14:07 PM #130: |
Just beat Ni No Kuni recently, and can easily say Esther is up there with Donald for most useless. Always depleting her mana at the start of battles (making it so she can never heal), and 9/10 the first to die.
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Rika_Furude 11/26/17 3:16:40 PM #132: |
Barret is the strongest isnt he? Either him or Cid. And both barret and cid with cloud make the most powerful party
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HeyPuff 11/26/17 3:16:59 PM #133: |
Flan
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ModLogic 11/26/17 3:22:51 PM #134: |
Holy_Cloud105 posted...
so there's no reason to use him over anyone hes not an annoying loli he's not rikku 2 excellent reasons to use him --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fire_bolt 11/26/17 3:29:45 PM #135: |
Rika_Furude posted...
Barret is the strongest isnt he? Either him or Cid. And both barret and cid with cloud make the most powerful party Cid and Barrett both have 32 hit count limits, but Barrett's does trash damage unless you buff his Strength with Hero Drink spam. They tie for highest *potential* damage tho ( not countering the overflow trick) W-Summon KOTR is the next highest damage potential, but that's available to anyone. Cloud is next with Omnislash. Think it hits 18 times and hits HARD. Then Yuffie with Death Of The Living IIRC. After that, everyone else is so low tier as to be interchangable Conformer makes Yuffie objectively top tier for being able to be paired brokenly with Morph and Double Cut materias. I'd rate her second best overall to Cloud except when using Hero Drink spam --- If her hips don't break, you didn't "carry" hard enough" -SpunkySix http://steamcommunity.com/id/bolt_thundara/wishlist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tiornys 11/26/17 3:30:47 PM #136: |
Runeboggle posted...
ChromaticAngel posted... Yeah, Kimahri owns the mid-late portions of storyline play if you're smart with how you build him. It's true that he does so by picking up other people's high-end skills earlier than they can (barring extreme grinding), but that's precisely what he's designed to be able to do. Pure joke characters aside, I think this has to go to someone in the Chrono Cross or Suikoden series casts. When the roster of characters gets massive, some of the entries are going to be strictly outclassed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Resolution 11/26/17 3:33:28 PM #137: |
I don't know how anyone can possibly say Bowser in SMRPG when he's relatively dominant and strong when he first joins the party. He just wears off towards the end of the game
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Bad_Mojo 11/26/17 3:35:52 PM #138: |
UrethaFranklin posted...
Blue mages in general do suck, but gau and quina were OP. Yeah, Gau is a God Im going to say Umaro is the worst --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bover_87 11/26/17 3:37:17 PM #139: |
27_Sandman_40 posted...
bover_87 posted...TheCurseX2 posted...Yuffie is objectively worse than every FF7 party member. Tifa's Limit is rather bad, and so are her weapons. Base stats barely matter in VII. Cait is a really good mage actually, since his weapons have tons of slots. Barret is pretty meh though, I'll agree there. --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. ~ [FFRK] rcr6 - Chosen Traveler/Shout/Army of One ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nightmare_Luna 11/26/17 3:38:11 PM #140: |
Junpei and Koromaru in Persona 3
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bover_87 11/26/17 3:39:26 PM #141: |
Nightmare_Luna posted...
Junpei and Koromaru in Persona 3 Edge in those versions isn't terrible per se, he just dies super easily. --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. ~ [FFRK] rcr6 - Chosen Traveler/Shout/Army of One ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaBreakfast 11/26/17 3:39:54 PM #142: |
def some useless characters in the fire emblems.
jeigan types aren't necessarily useless but can obviously lull you into a false sense of security and lead to other characters being neglected if you're new to the series. then you have extremely late game promoted recruits who literally only serve to help out if you haven't been playing well. and then there's just trash characters! --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/26/17 3:42:35 PM #143: |
nexigrams posted...
Literally 99% of the memory on Chrono Cross is packed with useless party members. Such a bad game. I agree So much wasted space. All they had to do was either make more party slots or be able to split the party like in 6 where you move and fight with 3 parties --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 11/26/17 3:50:35 PM #144: |
Nightmare_Luna posted...
Junpei and Koromaru in Persona 3 Fuma shuriken spam, have him in the back row. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bokothechoco2 11/26/17 3:53:03 PM #145: |
Not sure why everyone be bashin' Kimahri... Even if he wasn't anything special, there weren't any really "bad" characters in FF10. Everyone was competent at a minimum.
For characters that naturally get put into your party through story progression, Edward from FF4 comes to mind. He was designed as a character meant to be terrible, so naturally that's exactly what he is. If we wanna get creative, then Teta from FF Tactics. She has to be hacked into your party but her job ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/26/17 3:54:32 PM #146: |
bover_87 posted...
Barret is pretty meh though, I'll agree there. Are you kidding me? Ungarmax is the best Limit in the game and it isn't even his Level 4. Sue, it doesn't do the most damage (it might be, though), but because it's so quick it's much better to use IMO And since his Final Weapon is based on how much AP you have equipped on him it does more damage, so it's very easy to get the damage up with him. I solo the game a lot with Cloud, but I would rather do it with Barrett because it would be simpler because Ungarmax is better than Meteorain Also gets full damage from the back row without having to have Long Reach --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/26/17 3:55:25 PM #147: |
Bokothechoco2 posted...
Not sure why everyone be bashin' Kimahri... Even if he wasn't anything special, there weren't any really "bad" characters in FF10. Everyone was competent at a minimum. Nah, Malak is still worse than Teta --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xelltrix 11/26/17 3:56:18 PM #148: |
Cant be Kimahri, he could get steal early for you or build in any path you want so if you didnt screw him up, the fact he had piercing made him almost a strong a Auron with more accuracy and speed. Plenty of worst characters in JRPGs.
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Shotgunnova 11/26/17 3:59:46 PM #149: |
ctrl+f korcha
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ChromaticAngel 11/26/17 4:01:05 PM #150: |
Nightmare_Luna posted...
Junpei and Koromaru in Persona 3 Funny cause edge is borderline OP in TAY. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tiornys 11/26/17 4:03:23 PM #151: |
Shotgunnova posted...
ctrl+f korcha I didn't name names, just cited the large Chrono Cross roster. But if I was going to name names, this search would have hit. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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