Current Events > Trump tells 60,000 Haitians to pack their bags and get out of the US.

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All they need to do is repair the basic infrastructure and clear the debris from those huts that were destroyed. Even Haiti is capable of that in a 9 year span.

"All they have to do"

Jesus Christ...
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Guys! The solution here is pretty obvious.

Haiti just need to be annexed and occupied.
...by Canada.

sktgamer_13dude posted...

@Samurontai

Stop responding to Admiral until he actually explains and shows how Haiti has recovered besides saying its been 9 years and its only temporary.

Hes just going to use those if people respond to him because hes a simple (and terribly blatant) troll.

Yup, probably the best idea

Old guy is a shit poster anyway, idk why I bother debating him lol. Should block him like I did Mal, makes this site 10x more reasonable
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FrisbeeDude posted...

All they need to do is repair the basic infrastructure and clear the debris from those huts that were destroyed. Even Haiti is capable of that in a 9 year span.

"All they have to do"

Jesus Christ...

He's fucking inept dude, it's like one of the prerequisites of being a Trump supporter
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

The Admiral posted...

EyeWontBeFooled posted...

The Admiral posted...

9 years should be enough time for Haiti to get their shit together and repair earthquake damage.

You do realize Haiti is the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere, right? They're not exactly rolling in dough.

And? No one is asking them to build a city like San Francisco or anything. All they need to do is repair the basic infrastructure and clear the debris from those huts that were destroyed. Even Haiti is capable of that in a 9 year span.

Then post proof about how theyve recovered. Saying its been 9 years until youre blue in the face doesnt prove anything.

What's your argument here? That the U.S. should indefinitely support these people because their government is inept and didn't use the billions they were given in aid optimally? Doesn't sound very "temporary."

Haiti wasn't close to a first world country before and doesn't need to be for these people to go back. Like I said, so long as the debris is cleared and the infrastructure generally works, they can return. Ideally, they'll use the skills they acquired in the U.S. to help further repair their homeland.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Guys! The solution here is pretty obvious.

Haiti just need to be annexed and occupied.
...by Canada.

Nah the real solution is obvious.

They just need to rebuild a countries infrastructure with literal sticks and stones. I mean, it should only take 9 years right?
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Guys! The solution here is pretty obvious.

Haiti just need to be annexed and occupied.
...by Canada.

Nah the real solution is obvious.

They just need to rebuild a countries infrastructure with literal sticks and stones. I mean, it should only take 9 years right?

It doesn't help that the infrastructure they do have is mostly leftovers from the 1915-1934 occupation.

The Admiral posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

The Admiral posted...

EyeWontBeFooled posted...

The Admiral posted...

9 years should be enough time for Haiti to get their shit together and repair earthquake damage.

You do realize Haiti is the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere, right? They're not exactly rolling in dough.

And? No one is asking them to build a city like San Francisco or anything. All they need to do is repair the basic infrastructure and clear the debris from those huts that were destroyed. Even Haiti is capable of that in a 9 year span.

Then post proof about how theyve recovered. Saying its been 9 years until youre blue in the face doesnt prove anything.

What's your argument here? That the U.S. should indefinitely support these people because their government is inept and didn't use the billions they were given in aid optimally? Doesn't sound very "temporary."

Haiti wasn't close to a first world country before and doesn't need to be for these people to go back. Like I said, so long as the debris is cleared and the infrastructure generally works, they can return. Ideally, they'll use the skills they acquired in the U.S. to help further repair their homeland.

My argument is that Haiti is not near where it was before the earthquake.

If the Haitian government was legitimate, then Id agree that maybe its time for them to go home. But they arent.

Get off your fuck minorities high horse and actually back up your claims with facts and sources instead of thinking that Haiti has the ability to rebuild things as quickly as the US could.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Guys! The solution here is pretty obvious.

Haiti just need to be annexed and occupied.
...by Canada.

Nah the real solution is obvious.

They just need to rebuild a countries infrastructure with literal sticks and stones. I mean, it should only take 9 years right?

It doesn't help that the infrastructure they do have is mostly leftovers from the 1915-1934 occupation.

But its been 9 years. Thats like a lifetime right?
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

My argument is that Haiti is not near where it was before the earthquake.

It doesn't need to be, it just needs to be livable again. Which it is.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

But its been 9 years. Thats like a lifetime right?

Then, let's go back to yesterday's flamewar.
The past seven years was plenty of time to apply for some sort of permanent status. The next year and a half may be adequate time as well, but hurry.

The Admiral posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

My argument is that Haiti is not near where it was before the earthquake.

It doesn't need to be, it just needs to be livable again. Which it is.

<citation needed>
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Haiti was given in donations roughly double what their own government said the earthquake cost them to repair. I'd say 15 billion plus debt forgiveness is a bit more than "sticks and stones"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/haiti-earthquake-aid-nearly-15-billion-in-donations/
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Displaced Haitians due to the earthquake have declined 97%.

Seems like a good amount of progress to get them back to their homes.
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The only good parts of Haiti are the tourist traps where cruise ships go to port. The lives of the rich and beautiful play out just yards away from some of the most impoverished people on the planet.

As long as we consider this acceptable, nothing will ever truly change.
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s0nicfan posted...

Haiti was given in donations roughly double what their own government said the earthquake cost them to repair. I'd say 15 billion plus debt forgiveness is a bit more than "sticks and stones"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/haiti-earthquake-aid-nearly-15-billion-in-donations/

<citation needed on what that money was spent on>
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

Should we allow everyone living in a poor country to live in the US indefinitely, or are these 60,000 Haitians special or something?

We could, but nobody seems to ever remember the huge amounts of empty space in Nevada, Wyoming, and Alaska.

We could evacuate the entire population of Haiti to Wyoming, and everyone involved would likely be better off for it. Same goes for Israel, incidentally.

It's not a space issue.
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Always nice to see samurantai yell racism at anything that might negetivly affect minorities even if the reason is a policy that has nothing to do with racism.

His gimmick game is strong.
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Mal_Fet posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

Should we allow everyone living in a poor country to live in the US indefinitely, or are these 60,000 Haitians special or something?

We could, but nobody seems to ever remember the huge amounts of empty space in Nevada, Wyoming, and Alaska.

We could evacuate the entire population of Haiti to Wyoming, and everyone involved would likely be better off for it. Same goes for Israel, incidentally.

What the hell, no we couldn't. Geographical area is not the same as the infrastructure to support people

To be fair, China could move all these people to those phantom cities they built that no one moved to. The infrastructure is already there. Maybe trump should talk to China about this and maybe an arrangement can be met.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

To be fair, China could move all these people to those phantom cities they built that no one moved to. The infrastructure is already there. Maybe trump should talk to China about this and maybe an arrangement can be met.

Brasilia is closer, though.

sktgamer_13dude posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Why doesn?t the right here explain how Haiti has actually recovered instead of saying ?well it?s been 9 years!!!! That?d be enough for the US so that should be more than enough for one of the poorest countries in the world right??

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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Why doesn?t the right here explain how Haiti has actually recovered instead of saying ?well it?s been 9 years!!!! That?d be enough for the US so that should be more than enough for one of the poorest countries in the world right??

97% reduction of displaced people due to earthquake.

98% of displacement camps have been closed.
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SK8T3R215 posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Why doesn?t the right here explain how Haiti has actually recovered instead of saying ?well it?s been 9 years!!!! That?d be enough for the US so that should be more than enough for one of the poorest countries in the world right??

97% reduction of displaced people due to earthquake.

98% of displacement camps have been closed.

<citation needed>
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Samurontai posted...

The Admiral posted...

Santorin posted...

Samurontai posted...

Trumps trump card is racism lol

How is it racism?

Everything liberals don't like that affects minorities is "racism" to them.

Not everything to the left of the alt right is liberal The "I support racial profiling for no reason" Admiral

exactly lol

The Admiral posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

My argument is that Haiti is not near where it was before the earthquake.

It doesn't need to be, it just needs to be livable again. Which it is.

would you move there? ;)

sktgamer_13dude posted...

SK8T3R215 posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Why doesn?t the right here explain how Haiti has actually recovered instead of saying ?well it?s been 9 years!!!! That?d be enough for the US so that should be more than enough for one of the poorest countries in the world right??

97% reduction of displaced people due to earthquake.

98% of displacement camps have been closed.

<citation needed>

https://reliefweb.int/report/haiti/humanitarian-aid-7-years-after-2010-earthquake-who-remains-displaced

A total of 37,867 displaced (9,347 households) by the 2010 earthquake live in 27 sites[3]. 97% of the population initially displaced by the earthquake has left the camps

Since 2010, 1,528 sites have closed and more than 1.5 million people have returned or have been relocated with the support of several international donors.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/05/24/2017-10749/extension-of-the-designation-of-haiti-for-temporary-protected-status
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Always nice to see samurantai yell racism at anything that might negetivly affect minorities even if the reason is a policy that has nothing to do with racism.

His gimmick game is strong.

huh? He schooled the admiral and ragdolled his petty logic like Goro thowing around a chihuahua dog

SK8T3R215 posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

SK8T3R215 posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Why doesn?t the right here explain how Haiti has actually recovered instead of saying ?well it?s been 9 years!!!! That?d be enough for the US so that should be more than enough for one of the poorest countries in the world right??

97% reduction of displaced people due to earthquake.

98% of displacement camps have been closed.

<citation needed>

https://reliefweb.int/report/haiti/humanitarian-aid-7-years-after-2010-earthquake-who-remains-displaced

A total of 37,867 displaced (9,347 households) by the 2010 earthquake live in 27 sites[3]. 97% of the population initially displaced by the earthquake has left the camps

Since 2010, 1,528 sites have closed and more than 1.5 million people have returned or have been relocated with the support of several international donors.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/05/24/2017-10749/extension-of-the-designation-of-haiti-for-temporary-protected-status

And yet Haiti still has 59% of the population living under the poverty line.

http://www.worldbank.org/en/country/haiti/overview

And their GDP has actually started to decline the past couple of years as well.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?locations=HT

:thinking:
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The Admiral posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

My argument is that Haiti is not near where it was before the earthquake.

It doesn't need to be, it just needs to be livable again. Which it is.

How sheltered are you.
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If their "poverty line" is like $2/day, I wonder what sending 60,000 people who hypothetically have been making something closer to $7/hr for 9 years would do to their economy.... Especially given that the people capable of fleeing are likely the ones with the money in the first place.
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s0nicfan posted...

If their "poverty line" is like $2/day, I wonder what sending 60,000 people who hypothetically have been making something closer to $7/hr for 9 years would do to their economy.... Especially given that the people capable of fleeing are likely the ones with the money in the first place.

>implying there's no living expenses in the US
>implying those people could get those same paying jobs they have in the US in Haiti as well
>implying those same people working in the US aren't already sending money to their families who aren't able to find work and are living below the poverty line, likely already with the money they're getting from people in the US
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

s0nicfan posted...

If their "poverty line" is like $2/day, I wonder what sending 60,000 people who hypothetically have been making something closer to $7/hr for 9 years would do to their economy.... Especially given that the people capable of fleeing are likely the ones with the money in the first place.

>implying there's no living expenses in the US
>implying those people could get those same paying jobs they have in the US in Haiti as well
>implying those same people working in the US aren't already sending money to their families who aren't able to find work and are living below the poverty line, likely already with the money they're getting from people in the US

I'm not implying anything. You're the one suggesting that taking 60,000 of the most qualified individuals off an island has had no impact on their economy and that their return wouldn't have a significant net positive for the nation.
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s0nicfan posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

s0nicfan posted...

If their "poverty line" is like $2/day, I wonder what sending 60,000 people who hypothetically have been making something closer to $7/hr for 9 years would do to their economy.... Especially given that the people capable of fleeing are likely the ones with the money in the first place.

>implying there's no living expenses in the US
>implying those people could get those same paying jobs they have in the US in Haiti as well
>implying those same people working in the US aren't already sending money to their families who aren't able to find work and are living below the poverty line, likely already with the money they're getting from people in the US

I'm not implying anything. You're the one suggesting that taking 60,000 of the most qualified individuals off an island has had no impact on their economy and that their return wouldn't have a significant net positive for the nation.

And you're implying that the 60k here are the best 60k that Haiti has to offer without any sort of proof.

You're also implying that if you take people who make x/hr and put them somewhere else, they'll magically make x/hr as well and all will be well. That's not how jobs work.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

And yet Haiti still has 59% of the population living under the poverty line.

http://www.worldbank.org/en/country/haiti/overview

And their GDP has actually started to decline the past couple of years as well.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?locations=HT

:thinking:

How is this related to the earthquake? Their GDP is higher than it was before the earthquake. So that has recovered then, no?

How has their poverty rate changed since the earthquake? Was it lower before it and now is much higher? This says 61% were below it from 2007-2011, so that is either the same as it was or lower also.

https://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/haiti_statistics.html
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

s0nicfan posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

s0nicfan posted...

If their "poverty line" is like $2/day, I wonder what sending 60,000 people who hypothetically have been making something closer to $7/hr for 9 years would do to their economy.... Especially given that the people capable of fleeing are likely the ones with the money in the first place.

>implying there's no living expenses in the US
>implying those people could get those same paying jobs they have in the US in Haiti as well
>implying those same people working in the US aren't already sending money to their families who aren't able to find work and are living below the poverty line, likely already with the money they're getting from people in the US

I'm not implying anything. You're the one suggesting that taking 60,000 of the most qualified individuals off an island has had no impact on their economy and that their return wouldn't have a significant net positive for the nation.

And you're implying that the 60k here are the best 60k that Haiti has to offer without any sort of proof.

You're also implying that if you take people who make x/hr and put them somewhere else, they'll magically make x/hr as well and all will be well. That's not how jobs work.

So you think the nation wouldn't benefit from the return of these able-bodied individuals and whatever income they MAY have set aside? Aren't you a socialist? Because this sounds like a perfect case of "for the good of society". How many lives will be saved in the next 10 years by the influx of income and energy? Imagine what 60,000 people... let's say even 10,000 people could do towards repairing that infrastructure.
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The Admiral posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

My argument is that Haiti is not near where it was before the earthquake.

It doesn't need to be, it just needs to be livable again. Which it is.

Move there
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s0nicfan posted...

So you think the nation wouldn't benefit from the return of these able-bodied individuals and whatever income they MAY have set aside? Aren't you a socialist? Because this sounds like a perfect case of "for the good of society". How many lives will be saved in the next 10 years by the influx of income and energy? Imagine what 60,000 people... let's say even 10,000 people could do towards repairing that infrastructure.

But, you can't siphon from an economy that doesn't exist, and/or is corrupt as hell.
It's like twenty Greeces. Probably more.

I cant wait to work all those underpaid jobs thatll be freed up in order to not be able to afford an apartment and health insurance
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Questionmarktarius posted...

s0nicfan posted...

So you think the nation wouldn't benefit from the return of these able-bodied individuals and whatever income they MAY have set aside? Aren't you a socialist? Because this sounds like a perfect case of "for the good of society". How many lives will be saved in the next 10 years by the influx of income and energy? Imagine what 60,000 people... let's say even 10,000 people could do towards repairing that infrastructure.

But, you can't siphon from an economy that doesn't exist, and/or is corrupt as hell.
It's like twenty Greeces.

If the issue is the people on the island are wasting their own money due to corruption, how long should the US support those that had the means to escape? Who is going to fix things if all the people capable of fixing things are gone? At what point does a "temporary refugee" get permanent access to better resources on the grounds that they like their new life better? Should the US army just go in and barrel over the government? Because if not, it's up to the people to fix their own mess at some point. $15 billion was delivered in aid, and 9 years of care were given to those capable of getting out. At what point are they responsible for their own destiny? If the answer is "never" than stop calling them "refugees" and start calling them "migrants" and put them through the same process as everyone else who wants to enter legally.
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SK8T3R215 posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

And yet Haiti still has 59% of the population living under the poverty line.

http://www.worldbank.org/en/country/haiti/overview

And their GDP has actually started to decline the past couple of years as well.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?locations=HT

:thinking:

How is this related to the earthquake? Their GDP is higher than it was before the earthquake. So that has recovered then, no?

How has their poverty rate changed since the earthquake? Was it lower before it and now is much higher? This says 61% were below it from 2007-2011, so that is either the same as it was or lower also.

https://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/haiti_statistics.html

Their GDP is higher, but so are prices. That's how things work.

And a whole 2% in 9 years? Wow, Haiti really is the place to live in!

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/article4423598.html

Oh wait, maybe it isn't....
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s0nicfan posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

s0nicfan posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

s0nicfan posted...

If their "poverty line" is like $2/day, I wonder what sending 60,000 people who hypothetically have been making something closer to $7/hr for 9 years would do to their economy.... Especially given that the people capable of fleeing are likely the ones with the money in the first place.

>implying there's no living expenses in the US
>implying those people could get those same paying jobs they have in the US in Haiti as well
>implying those same people working in the US aren't already sending money to their families who aren't able to find work and are living below the poverty line, likely already with the money they're getting from people in the US

I'm not implying anything. You're the one suggesting that taking 60,000 of the most qualified individuals off an island has had no impact on their economy and that their return wouldn't have a significant net positive for the nation.

And you're implying that the 60k here are the best 60k that Haiti has to offer without any sort of proof.

You're also implying that if you take people who make x/hr and put them somewhere else, they'll magically make x/hr as well and all will be well. That's not how jobs work.

So you think the nation wouldn't benefit from the return of these able-bodied individuals and whatever income they MAY have set aside? Aren't you a socialist? Because this sounds like a perfect case of "for the good of society". How many lives will be saved in the next 10 years by the influx of income and energy? Imagine what 60,000 people... let's say even 10,000 people could do towards repairing that infrastructure.

>implying there's no living expenses in the US
>implying those people could get those same paying jobs they have in the US in Haiti as well
>implying those same people working in the US aren't already sending money to their families who aren't able to find work and are living below the poverty line, likely already with the money they're getting from people in the US
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

Their GDP is higher, but so are prices. That's how things work.

And a whole 2% in 9 years? Wow, Haiti really is the place to live in!

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/article4423598.html

Oh wait, maybe it isn't....

So refugee status is now something that can be applied to someone on the grounds that their economy isn't improving at a fast enough rate? Because your argument was "they're no better off than they were after the earthquake" and now that you've been proven wrong it suddenly shifted to "well.. but look how shitty their national growth is!"
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

>implying there's no living expenses in the US
>implying those people could get those same paying jobs they have in the US in Haiti as well
>implying those same people working in the US aren't already sending money to their families who aren't able to find work and are living below the poverty line, likely already with the money they're getting from people in the US

So you think the nation wouldn't benefit from the return of these able-bodied individuals and whatever income they MAY have set aside? Aren't you a socialist? Because this sounds like a perfect case of "for the good of society". How many lives will be saved in the next 10 years by the influx of income and energy? Imagine what 60,000 people... let's say even 10,000 people could do towards repairing that infrastructure.
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No one here is saying that the Haitians should stay here forever. There's just literally no reason to send them home now. Haiti isn't in a good place yet, despite you believing it is.
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s0nicfan posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

>implying there's no living expenses in the US
>implying those people could get those same paying jobs they have in the US in Haiti as well
>implying those same people working in the US aren't already sending money to their families who aren't able to find work and are living below the poverty line, likely already with the money they're getting from people in the US

So you think the nation wouldn't benefit from the return of these able-bodied individuals and whatever income they MAY have set aside? Aren't you a socialist? Because this sounds like a perfect case of "for the good of society". How many lives will be saved in the next 10 years by the influx of income and energy? Imagine what 60,000 people... let's say even 10,000 people could do towards repairing that infrastructure.

>implying there's no living expenses in the US
>implying those same people working in the US aren't already sending money to their families who aren't able to find work and are living below the poverty line, likely already with the money they're getting from people in the US
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

s0nicfan posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

>implying there's no living expenses in the US
>implying those people could get those same paying jobs they have in the US in Haiti as well
>implying those same people working in the US aren't already sending money to their families who aren't able to find work and are living below the poverty line, likely already with the money they're getting from people in the US

So you think the nation wouldn't benefit from the return of these able-bodied individuals and whatever income they MAY have set aside? Aren't you a socialist? Because this sounds like a perfect case of "for the good of society". How many lives will be saved in the next 10 years by the influx of income and energy? Imagine what 60,000 people... let's say even 10,000 people could do towards repairing that infrastructure.

>implying there's no living expenses in the US
>implying those same people working in the US aren't already sending money to their families who aren't able to find work and are living below the poverty line, likely already with the money they're getting from people in the US

So you think the nation wouldn't benefit from the return of these able-bodied individuals and whatever income they MAY have set aside?

If you can't answer the question just say so. No need to get stuck in a loop of "oh shit he has a point" nonsense.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

SK8T3R215 posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

And yet Haiti still has 59% of the population living under the poverty line.

http://www.worldbank.org/en/country/haiti/overview

And their GDP has actually started to decline the past couple of years as well.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?locations=HT

:thinking:

How is this related to the earthquake? Their GDP is higher than it was before the earthquake. So that has recovered then, no?

How has their poverty rate changed since the earthquake? Was it lower before it and now is much higher? This says 61% were below it from 2007-2011, so that is either the same as it was or lower also.

https://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/haiti_statistics.html

Their GDP is higher, but so are prices. That's how things work.

And a whole 2% in 9 years? Wow, Haiti really is the place to live in!

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/article4423598.html

Oh wait, maybe it isn't....

You also realize the point of the TPS is:

"The Secretary has determined, after consulting with the Department of State (DOS) and other government agencies, that there exists in Haiti extraordinary and temporary conditions, preventing Haitian nationals from returning to Haiti in safety and that permitting eligible Haitian nationals to remain temporarily in the United States would not be contrary to the national interest."

So what does GDP and poverty lines have to do with the TPS? Nearly all displaced people have left the camps to return home. The fact you don't think GDP grew fast enough is pretty irrelevant to what the TPS is for.

The fact Haiti is a poor country and continues to be a poor country has really nothing to do with the TPS being issued. If anything these Haitians have 18 months to apply for permanent status, on top of the 7 years they had before this.
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s0nicfan posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Their GDP is higher, but so are prices. That's how things work.

And a whole 2% in 9 years? Wow, Haiti really is the place to live in!

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/article4423598.html

Oh wait, maybe it isn't....

So refugee status is now something that can be applied to someone on the grounds that their economy isn't improving at a fast enough rate? Because your argument was "they're no better off than they were after the earthquake" and now that you've been proven wrong it suddenly shifted to "well.. but look how shitty their national growth is!"

>isn't improving at a fast enough rate
>has gone down the past two years

My argument is that life hasn't improved for Haitians. Maybe you should also take a reading class with Mal_Fet.
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s0nicfan posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

s0nicfan posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

>implying there's no living expenses in the US
>implying those people could get those same paying jobs they have in the US in Haiti as well
>implying those same people working in the US aren't already sending money to their families who aren't able to find work and are living below the poverty line, likely already with the money they're getting from people in the US

So you think the nation wouldn't benefit from the return of these able-bodied individuals and whatever income they MAY have set aside? Aren't you a socialist? Because this sounds like a perfect case of "for the good of society". How many lives will be saved in the next 10 years by the influx of income and energy? Imagine what 60,000 people... let's say even 10,000 people could do towards repairing that infrastructure.

>implying there's no living expenses in the US
>implying those same people working in the US aren't already sending money to their families who aren't able to find work and are living below the poverty line, likely already with the money they're getting from people in the US

So you think the nation wouldn't benefit from the return of these able-bodied individuals and whatever income they MAY have set aside?

If you can't answer the question just say so. No need to get stuck in a loop of "oh shit he has a point" nonsense.

"may have set aside"

>implying they have money set aside to take with them

Your premise is flawed and stupid and it's not even worth answering your shitty question because you have literally no point.
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Time to leave
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