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Fishy
11/20/17 7:50:41 PM
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https://www.google.fr/amp/s/www.haaretz.com/amp/israel-news/.premium-1.823726

Until now, Israel has been pressuring Eritrean and Sudanese nationals to leave, but did not deport them. But the Population, Immigration and Borders Authority will shortly inform numerous asylum seekers that they will have to leave in accordance with new criteria to be formulate.

It hasnt yet decided who will be the first to be targeted. Certain groups will be excluded at this stage, including women and children; people who have requested asylum but have yet to get a response; and those who have been victims of human trafficking.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told the weekly cabinet meeting that after the construction of the border fence with Egypt and the removal of 20,000 infiltrators from Israel in recent years, it was time for the third stage, which he described as increased removal.

This removal is made possible thanks to an international agreement I reached that allows us, of the 40,000 infiltrators that remain, to remove them without their consent, Netanyahu said. This is very important. It will allow us to empty the Holot facility later on and divert some of the large resources we are expending there toward inspectors and increased removal. Thats why this was a success, but our goal is to continue to remove more and more, to a more significant extent than weve removed [them] until now.

The Holot facility, near the Nitzana crossing on the Egyptian border, was opened four years ago and cost 320 million shekels ($91 million at the current exchange rates). Since then the state has allocated between 200 million and 250 million shekels annually to operate it. Only men from Eritrea and Sudan are sent there. The facility is surrounded by high fences and is divided into wings.
At first residents were held there indefinitely, were required to check in three times day, and were forbidden to work. Several petitions to the High Court of Justice led to an easing of the conditions there; detention was limited to a year, attendance was taken only once a day, and the crowding in the rooms was reduced, such that each room holds only six inmates instead of 10. The facilitys full capacity is 3,360 people and there were times when it was full. Today only 1,220 people are being held there.

Human rights organizations welcomed the decision to close Holot, but issued a statement critical of the plan to deport or jail asylum seekers.
Once again the government is performing some political spin on the back of those who have been marked as African blacks, all to divert public attention from its real failures. In Israel there live 37,000 asylum seekers, including women and children; thousands of them were victims of torture camps in the Sinai. Instead of upholding its international and moral obligations to maintain a sanctuary system that will protect the refugees, the government chooses once again to lie, incite and embitter the lives of the refugees whom they do not allow to file an asylum request, said the statement, signed by the Refugees and Migrants Hotline, the Association for Civil Rights in Israel, Amnesty International Israel, the Workers Hotline, Physicians for Human Rights, the Aid Organization for Refugees and Asylum Seekers in Israel, and the African Refugee Development Center.

A billion shekels werent enough for the Israeli government to understand that incarceration and abuse are not effective tools when were talking about people whose lives are in danger, the statement continued. Instead of turning away the handful of refugees within its territory, Israel can and must protect asylum seekers like the other nations of the world, instead of jailing them or deporting them to continue their wandering; Uganda and Rwanda do not constitute safe destinations for asylum seekers. The government must offer an immediate and real solution and provide protection for everyone whom it repeatedly refuses to recognize as a refugee.

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Fishy
11/20/17 7:50:51 PM
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Former Interior Minister Gideon Saar, who initiated the construction of Holot, was critical of the decision to close it. Closing Holot would be a serious mistake that would be a victory for the infiltrators and the organizations that support them. Because of Holot, thousands of infiltrators have left Israel and the city centers, Saar wrote on Twitter on Sunday. The right decision for the cabinet to make today would be to double Holot, not close it (theres a plan for this). Every infiltrator who is not in Holot will be in Tel Aviv and in other cities.

The Center for Migration Policy, an organization working to deport asylum seekers from Israel, also condemned the decision to close Holot. The decision to close the Holot facility is too early and sweeping, the organization said in a statement.

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courier_nv
11/20/17 7:51:00 PM
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in b4
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Fishy
11/20/17 7:58:59 PM
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tl;dr after years of pushing for asylum seekers to simply go back and imprisoning them Israel has finally stepped up and decided to force asylum seekers out by sending them to Uganda and Rwanda. Thousands have been detained in Holot since its opening in 2013, which has been closed in preparation for the mass deportation.
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NibeIungsnarf
11/20/17 8:00:03 PM
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Inb4aptcomparisons
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glitteringfairy
11/20/17 8:00:37 PM
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Well good for them. I don't like the Israeli government but I admire their give no fucks attitude and I wish more countries had their balls
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Zikten
11/20/17 8:01:38 PM
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the Israeli government is far more racist than the American one
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NINExATExSEVEN
11/20/17 8:11:39 PM
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Hmmmmmmm
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Fishy
11/21/17 2:53:18 AM
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bump
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EverDownward
11/21/17 2:54:27 AM
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Let's see how many delegates in the UN and EU criticize Israel for this maneuver
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EverDownward
11/21/17 2:58:04 AM
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Also, that's an interesting word to use in reference to asylum seekers: "infiltrators." It doesn't sound nearly as sympathetic as 'refugee.'
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Fishy
11/21/17 3:08:09 AM
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EverDownward posted...
Also, that's an interesting word to use in reference to asylum seekers: "infiltrators." It doesn't sound nearly as sympathetic as 'refugee.'

Their foreign ministry spokesman's exact words were "they threaten Israel's identity."
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Nikra
11/21/17 3:20:37 AM
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In my country a new law is on the way: If refugies are going on vacation to the country they fleed from. They will lose their permit to stay in the country.
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AmonAmarth
11/21/17 3:42:17 AM
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This is a key difference between
many right wing in USA and Europe.

US right wing love Israel too much.

And yes Israel has many weird policies.
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NINExATExSEVEN
11/21/17 6:39:29 AM
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I'm surprised that all of the progressives on CE aren't calling Israel out on this. I guess you really can't criticize Jews for anything on the left.
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Cheater87
11/21/17 7:00:42 AM
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I was raised Jewish and I criticize them a good fair amount, my family calls me self-hating though. -_-
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Millennials
11/21/17 7:06:58 AM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
I guess you really can't criticize Jews for anything on the left.

lol what
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bover_87
11/21/17 7:08:11 AM
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Isreal being terrible as usual.
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Solar_Crimson
11/21/17 7:09:17 AM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
I'm surprised that all of the progressives on CE aren't calling Israel out on this. I guess you really can't criticize Jews for anything on the left.

Criticizing Israel =/= criticizing Jews
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Fishy
11/21/17 7:33:20 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Criticizing Israel =/= criticizing Jews

CE loves Israel despite it pretty much being America if all the MAGA policies were fully supported by the people.
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RE_expert44
11/21/17 7:40:46 AM
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With the way shot is over there I don't blame them
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NINExATExSEVEN
11/21/17 7:49:13 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
I'm surprised that all of the progressives on CE aren't calling Israel out on this. I guess you really can't criticize Jews for anything on the left.

Criticizing Israel =/= criticizing Jews


Yea because it's the Jewish elite and leaders in Israel that are all for these policies.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
11/21/17 8:05:18 AM
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I (infamously on CE) support Israel.
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NibeIungsnarf
11/21/17 8:36:57 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
I (infamously on CE) support Israel.

It's mostly infamous because you support Israel sterelizing refugees.
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Doom_Art
11/21/17 8:44:04 AM
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I suppose it's a step up from

y'know

sterilizing them like they did a few years ago
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courier_nv
11/21/17 8:44:41 AM
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glad i did the whole inb4 thing
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Anarchy_Juiblex
11/21/17 8:56:24 AM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

It's mostly infamous because you support Israel sterelizing refugees.


Ctrl+F "nuance" not found.
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The Admiral
11/21/17 9:04:56 AM
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Always refreshing to see a country that makes policies based on the good of its citizenry, not insane political correctness stances.
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SweetieBelle462
11/21/17 9:06:16 AM
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Time to leave.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
11/21/17 10:34:29 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
What was the nuance that made you in favor of sterilization of refugees?


It's not sterilization when it's temporary. It's birth control.
I have no issue with informed consent to long term birth control as a mandatory prerequisite to migration/refugee status.
Cry me a fucking river. Maybe don't be dirt poor, bring your problems to a new country, and try to continue the cycle by shitting out another half dozen kids. Fuck that. You don't want the birth control? Stay in your fucking country. No one is forcing anything, let alone sterilization on them.
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NINExATExSEVEN
11/21/17 12:17:06 PM
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^ Post #32 savage
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XHJYFL
11/21/17 7:40:49 PM
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Good. I've always admired Israel and how they give no fucks and do what needs to be done.
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NINExATExSEVEN
11/21/17 7:46:01 PM
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XHJYFL posted...
Good. I've always admired Israel and how they give no fucks and do what needs to be done.


Why is this something that has to be done? Are these Africans causing high levels of crime or something in Israel or is just because Israel has racist leaders?

We're talking about a country that tried to sterilize it's African population and now calls them infiltrators. I'm all for their right to stop more migration from other countries but what they're doing to the people already living in Israel is just fucked up.
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SGT_Conti
11/21/17 7:49:54 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
What was the nuance that made you in favor of sterilization of refugees?


It's not sterilization when it's temporary. It's birth control.
I have no issue with informed consent to long term birth control as a mandatory prerequisite to migration/refugee status.
Cry me a fucking river. Maybe don't be dirt poor, bring your problems to a new country, and try to continue the cycle by shitting out another half dozen kids. Fuck that. You don't want the birth control? Stay in your fucking country. No one is forcing anything, let alone sterilization on them.

It wasn't informed though.
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Antifar
11/21/17 7:51:09 PM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
I'm surprised that all of the progressives on CE aren't calling Israel out on this. I guess you really can't criticize Jews for anything on the left.

Uh, the left is hardly known for being supportive of Israel.
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11/21/17 8:00:08 PM
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