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RuffledPeanuts
11/18/17 10:06:13 PM
#52:


lilORANG posted...
got damn, I did not expect Berserker to go down that fast. or for that little girl's eyes to get sliced out. this shit is brutal.

They don't really go that deep into her story in UBW but, after watching Fate/Zero... that scene is definitely depressing along with brutal.
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Vortex_of_Hope
11/18/17 10:06:56 PM
#53:


Zero is my personal favorite.
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lilORANG
11/19/17 10:43:58 AM
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FreshOverlord
11/19/17 10:48:01 AM
#55:


Why are you watching it instead of going thru the game
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lilORANG
11/19/17 10:51:08 AM
#56:


bc tbh I don't know the extent of this franchise at all. I was browsing netflix and Aporypha looked neat so I put it on and then I started UBW.

I feel like I'm losing a lot of exposition. I've been trying to catch up on wiki pages but there's so much shit and different "paths" and I don't know how any of it relates to anything else.

Basically I'm just watching 'cause the animation and action sequences are really good.

also is there a real assassin? I thought they said that samurai guy was an "extra" or something because he was summoned by Caster so I thought there was a human master with the real assassin somewhere, but there's been no mention of one
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Blue_Inigo
11/19/17 10:56:03 AM
#57:


You really shoulda watched Zero before UBW/Stay Night imo

It makes those two much better. What you did is fine. I did the same thing
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RuffledPeanuts
11/19/17 4:53:01 PM
#58:


lilORANG posted...
also is there a real assassin? I thought they said that samurai guy was an "extra" or something because he was summoned by Caster so I thought there was a human master with the real assassin somewhere, but there's been no mention of one

Caster is the master of Assassin. She broke the rules by summoning Assassin and I don't think there ever is another assassin in UBW.
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lilORANG
11/19/17 8:50:24 PM
#59:


lol wat these kids gotta fuck to transfer mana?

nm, just remove their shirts to reveal....more shirts underneath? lol
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SmidgeIsntBack
11/19/17 9:08:22 PM
#60:


Blue_Inigo posted...
You really shoulda watched Zero before UBW/Stay Night imo


There are still a large amount of people who think UBW should be watched first, despite clearly being written with Zero's exposition and character development in mind.
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Tmaster148
11/19/17 9:12:51 PM
#61:


lilORANG posted...
lol wat these kids gotta fuck to transfer mana?

nm, just remove their shirts to reveal....more shirts underneath? lol


Well the VN is an eroge one.
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lilORANG
11/19/17 9:23:08 PM
#62:


Tmaster148 posted...
lilORANG posted...
lol wat these kids gotta fuck to transfer mana?

nm, just remove their shirts to reveal....more shirts underneath? lol


Well the VN is an eroge one.

so did they actually fuck in that one?
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Tmaster148
11/19/17 9:23:46 PM
#63:


lilORANG posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
lilORANG posted...
lol wat these kids gotta fuck to transfer mana?

nm, just remove their shirts to reveal....more shirts underneath? lol


Well the VN is an eroge one.

so did they actually fuck in that one?


Uh. I think so. I never played it so I can't tell you for 100%, but it does contain H-scenes AFAIK.
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lilORANG
11/19/17 9:25:59 PM
#64:


not that I really care a whole lot but is it normal in japan to take weird animu porn sims and turn them into kickass action shows?
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Axiom
11/19/17 9:27:59 PM
#65:


lilORANG posted...
not that I really care a whole lot but is it normal in japan to take weird animu porn sims and turn them into kickass action shows?

Actually yeah hardcore visual novels actually get adapted into less hardcore anime quite often
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Tmaster148
11/19/17 9:30:17 PM
#66:


Well tbf, the eroge stuff is pretty minor and I'm pretty sure it's largely just the one scene you are watching right now. It's not like the VN is just straight up porn.
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thompsontalker7
11/19/17 9:34:29 PM
#67:


I liked the dub cast in FSN more.

Unlimited Blade Works reads like a fucking fan fic so I never really liked it in comparison

Hopefully they do Heaven's Feel justice
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Rika_Furude
11/19/17 10:28:18 PM
#68:


I think for now Zero should be watched first.

Once the Heavens Feel movie is released then the suggested order would be UBW->HF->Zero

But i only read it on reddit so i dunno
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thompsontalker7
11/19/17 11:00:50 PM
#69:


Rika_Furude posted...
I think for now Zero should be watched first.

Once the Heavens Feel movie is released then the suggested order would be UBW->HF->Zero

But i only read it on reddit so i dunno


No matter what you watch first you're gonna get spoiled

But Zero spoils a lot more crucial things than F/SN or UBW

That's why the proper order is Zero-> FSN/UBW-> Heaven's Feel

Idk why people treat Zero like it's the first in the series; it's a prequel that assumes you're familiar with some of the characters/world already
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Tmaster148
11/19/17 11:02:14 PM
#70:


thompsontalker7 posted...
Idk why people treat Zero like it's the first in the series; it's a prequel that assumes you're familiar with some of the characters/world already


Well it is first Chronologically and some people just like watching things in chronological order.
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thompsontalker7
11/19/17 11:04:19 PM
#71:


Tmaster148 posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
Idk why people treat Zero like it's the first in the series; it's a prequel that assumes you're familiar with some of the characters/world already


Well it is first Chronologically and some people just like watching things in chronological order.


Chronological yes, but it's like watching Star Wars chronologically; not exactly the best idea if you want some coherence later on
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lilORANG
11/19/17 11:05:58 PM
#72:


I noticed UBW and Zero were both on netflix, and I just went with the one that released first.
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thompsontalker7
11/19/17 11:08:34 PM
#73:


lilORANG posted...
I noticed UBW and Zero were both on netflix, and I just went with the one that released first.


Damn, tough break.

But specifically I was talking about people who usually ask about this. I REEEEEE every time Zero is recommended first because they'll always ask the same questions later like why are they keeping Saber's identity so secret, etc...
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SmidgeIsntBack
11/19/17 11:23:31 PM
#74:


Zero doesn't assume anything about the watcher, that's why it frontloads a ton of exposition for better or worse. Meanwhile, Saber and Gil's characterization is very much based on how they acted in Zero, not in the VN.

As for spoilers, the only thing about FSN worth spoiling is Archer, and I bet TC already has an idea of what the deal is with him. Having Zero's ending spoiled is way worse.
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SerPounceAIot
11/19/17 11:33:07 PM
#75:


Did zero ever get a direct sequel? I liked Wavers character a lot :(
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Spidey5
11/19/17 11:36:39 PM
#76:


SerPounceAIot posted...
Did zero ever get a direct sequel? I liked Wavers character a lot :(

In Fate Apochrypha he appears as a minor support character as an adult
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lilORANG
11/20/17 12:11:21 AM
#77:


That was a cool final fight, but how the heck did archer come back?
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Shadow20201
11/20/17 12:36:32 AM
#78:


I watched Zero first and I thought it did a good job as an entry point into the series.
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thompsontalker7
11/20/17 1:29:44 AM
#79:


Shadow20201 posted...
I watched Zero first and I thought it did a good job as an entry point into the series.


Idk maybe I'm just old school

When Zero first debuted I knew I wasn't the only one saying "watch the other one first" but I guess the series expanded enough to cover all areas

Still felt like Zero had spoilers that would only make F/SN seem worse if you watched that afterwards
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LordFarquad1312
11/20/17 1:39:53 AM
#80:


lilORANG posted...
That was a cool final fight, but how the heck did archer come back?

My theory is that he's basically a time cop, so he's not the same Archer from the rest of the series.
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lilORANG
11/20/17 1:40:58 AM
#81:


Started Zero. Caster is metal af. Golly
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lilORANG
11/20/17 1:43:16 AM
#82:


Wait is assassin already dead. Lmao
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Staplersan
11/20/17 2:55:29 AM
#83:


Assassin died because caster died. Archer is a servant so rubble doesnt actually hurt him. He just had to suck up the wounds Gil gave him
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lilORANG
11/20/17 10:35:15 AM
#84:


Staplersan posted...
Archer is a servant so rubble doesnt actually hurt him. He just had to suck up the wounds Gil gave him

It wasn't rubble that killed him tho. He got hit by a thousand arrows and exploded and it showed a crater with disintegrating servant putty in his place. Like he was as dead as you can get.
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Thekiller37
11/20/17 12:36:56 PM
#85:


Tmaster148 posted...
Talks posted...
Would reading it be a big waste of time? I liked reading Tsukihime


Generally the best method agreed upon for watching Fate/Stay Night is to read the VN for the first route then watch UWB. Or just skip it.

There's arguments about if you should watch Fate/Zero before UWB or the upcoming movie Heaven's Feel. As they spoil each other.

Yeah. I would argue that unless you're just watching the regular Fate Stay/Night, you should watch Fate/Zero first, since Alot of Kiritsugu's importance is covered in fate/zero and gives you a better understanding of the depth and purpose of what he did. Makes you feel more when watching UBW(anime, not the movie) lol
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lilORANG
11/20/17 8:26:08 PM
#86:


Fate Zero is way better so far. The masters are 1000x more interesting than they were in UBW.

Alexander the Great has been wonderful so far.
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Axiom
11/20/17 8:27:11 PM
#87:


Zero was probably my favorite of the Fate series. I liked how the MC was completely ruthless and willing to do anything for what he believed to be the greater good
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Thekiller37
11/20/17 11:35:53 PM
#88:


Axiom posted...
Zero was probably my favorite of the Fate series. I liked how the MC was completely ruthless and willing to do anything for what he believed to be the greater good

I feel the same way, I loved Zero and Kiritsugu.
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Ricemills
11/20/17 11:54:19 PM
#89:


Tmaster148 posted...
lilORANG posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
lilORANG posted...
lol wat these kids gotta fuck to transfer mana?

nm, just remove their shirts to reveal....more shirts underneath? lol


Well the VN is an eroge one.

so did they actually fuck in that one?


Uh. I think so. I never played it so I can't tell you for 100%, but it does contain H-scenes AFAIK.


and now you're questioning how Ilya provides mana for Berserker.
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Tmaster148
11/21/17 12:00:25 AM
#90:


Ricemills posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
lilORANG posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
lilORANG posted...
lol wat these kids gotta fuck to transfer mana?

nm, just remove their shirts to reveal....more shirts underneath? lol


Well the VN is an eroge one.

so did they actually fuck in that one?


Uh. I think so. I never played it so I can't tell you for 100%, but it does contain H-scenes AFAIK.


and now you're questioning how Ilya provides mana for Berserker.


It's just Emiya is a unique case of not being a full mage and has limited mana compared to the other mages in the fight.
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Popcorn_Fairy
11/21/17 12:05:39 AM
#91:


lilORANG posted...
Alexander the Great has been wonderful so far.


Alexander the Great is the best character in Fate.
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RuffledPeanuts
11/21/17 3:03:04 PM
#92:


Popcorn_Fairy posted...
lilORANG posted...
Alexander the Great has been wonderful so far.


Alexander the Great is the best character in Fate.

Seriously. I was still rooting for him to win even though I knew the ending to Zero. He's just a fantastic character.
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lilORANG
11/21/17 3:04:45 PM
#93:


Tho having seen UBW first, some of these characters have lost some impact.

Like Gil being a pushover bitch when he actually has to get his hands dirty. And Kotemine getting wrecked so quickly in UBW 5 minutes after being revealed. Kinda hard to take them seriously now
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lilORANG
11/21/17 11:38:48 PM
#94:


Someone explain this to me. If the Einzberg stuff is in Germany how the heck are they moving back and forth between there and Japan so quickly?

And in UBW I'm pretty sure they just walked there at one point, like it was in Fuyuki.
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Spidey5
11/21/17 11:44:32 PM
#95:


lilORANG posted...
Someone explain this to me. If the Einzberg stuff is in Germany how the heck are they moving back and forth between there and Japan so quickly?

And in UBW I'm pretty sure they just walked there at one point, like it was in Fuyuki.

Einzberns have a private mansion at the end of a vast forest outside Fuyuki. It takes about 3 hours to get from Fuyuki to the einzberns mansion. And they have a boundary over the entire forest so anyone steps on a blade of grass near the forest, and they can see you.
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lilORANG
11/21/17 11:53:12 PM
#96:


But the caption everytime it cuts to the mansion says "germany"

Is there a germany, Japan?
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Rika_Furude
11/22/17 12:14:47 AM
#97:


They wizards and teleport
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lilORANG
11/22/17 12:19:38 AM
#98:


Then why did they make it a point to show iry and saber on a plane travelling to japan?
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LordFarquad1312
11/22/17 2:39:30 AM
#99:


Are you confusing the Einzbern castle in Germany with their mansion on Fuyuki? The one in Germany always has snow as far as I can recall.
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Spidey5
11/22/17 7:30:30 AM
#100:


lilORANG posted...
But the caption everytime it cuts to the mansion says "germany"

Is there a germany, Japan?

Oh, I dunno about the Fate Zero living situation, just the UBW/Fate/HF setting.
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lilORANG
11/22/17 9:58:23 AM
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they have two castles? why do these bitches need a holy grail?
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