Current Events > Do you believe black people are unfairly targeted by police?

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_Goggalor_
11/21/17 6:15:19 AM
#201:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
The problem with "verify first, shoot second" is that innocent civilians and officers can get hurt or killed during step one. Yes, verifying the situation is a thing that police officers do when they arrive at the scene. But to what extent should they keep verifying when the person in question appears to have a gun? That's not to say there's a weak link in the police procedure chain, and it's possible that they could have handled it in a different way in hindsight. But to act like it should be "fairly easy to tell when a mass shooting isn't happening" is just naive.

People running away?
People lying dead on the ground?
Blood anywhere on the scene?
Bulletholes anywhere on the scene?
The sound of gunfire? Or screaming?
The gun actually being pointed at people?
The "shooter" attempting to hurt someone, rather than minding his own business and talking on the phone?

Yeah, no. You'd have to literally be wearing a blindfold and earplugs to miss the very obvious signs that a mass shooting is not happening

Again if the police are told there is an active shooter they cannot think like that.

Your agenda is getting in the way of logic

I don't wanna live in a world where police are drones that can't evaluate the situation on their own.

This is the same reason Tamir Rice was killed. Cops were told the 12 year old child was pointing a gun at people, they show up and kill him in seconds despite the toy gun not being drawn.

Why are you fine with people being killed because a wrong report was made?

If not killing people is an "agenda", I don't mind it showing. Your agenda of valuing cop lives over innocents is definitely on full display.


And your ability to hand wave Tamir's actions speaks to your bias.
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Kineth
11/21/17 6:56:03 AM
#202:


_Goggalor_ posted...
On the whole, no. Not at all. There are of course incidents, but most officers aren't "out to get" black people.


No one said that most officers are out to get black people. What is being said is that there are more cops that are "out to get" black people than cops that are "out to get" white people.

_Goggalor_ posted...
And your ability to hand wave Tamir's actions speaks to your bias.


Your bias shows when in analyzing the situation where you seek to place more blame and responsibility on the young kid than on the cops who clearly executed the kid.
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RickyTheBAWSE
11/21/17 7:46:14 AM
#203:


a Trump supporter who victim blames a little Black boy who was murdered by officers who didn't rely on their training? color me shocked.
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RE_expert44
11/21/17 7:49:29 AM
#204:


No they are not unfairly targeted by police.
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Kineth
11/21/17 8:31:18 AM
#205:


_Goggalor_ posted...
On the whole, no. Not at all. There are of course incidents, but most officers aren't "out to get" black people.


No one said that most officers are out to get black people. What is being said is that there are more cops that are "out to get" black people than cops that are "out to get" white people.

_Goggalor_ posted...
And your ability to hand wave Tamir's actions speaks to your bias.


Your bias shows when analyzing the situation, where you seek to place more blame and responsibility on the young kid rather than on the cops who clearly executed the kid.
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Mist_Turnips
11/21/17 8:35:06 AM
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No cause conspiracy theories are for nerds.
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darkjedilink
11/21/17 8:36:43 AM
#207:


Kineth posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
On the whole, no. Not at all. There are of course incidents, but most officers aren't "out to get" black people.


No one said that most officers are out to get black people. What is being said is that there are more cops that are "out to get" black people than cops that are "out to get" white people.

_Goggalor_ posted...
And your ability to hand wave Tamir's actions speaks to your bias.


Your bias shows when analyzing the situation, where you seek to place more blame and responsibility on the young kid rather than on the cops who clearly executed the kid.

A kid who looked like he was pointing a weapon at cops, who only arrived because he pointed what looks like a gun at a BUNCH of people and had the cops called on him.

The kid died as a result of his own stupidity, not because of racism.
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