Current Events > Battlefront 2's Metacritic score proves game reviewers are paid off

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The user scores aren't even worth acknowledging, but why are the critic scores so low? 75 is almost bomb territory for a AAA game. Are they dinging for the microtransactions nonsense too?
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The Admiral posted...

The user scores aren't even worth acknowledging, but why are the critic scores so low? 75 is almost bomb territory for a AAA game. Are they dinging for the microtransactions nonsense too?

I haven't read any of them, but Jim has a video out that showcases that the game's SP mode is pretty shallow and glitch filled. Also, you're part of these set pieces, but you don't get to participate in them. Everything happens in the background, and you don't get to really partake in them. Even WhatCulture thinks that the game is merely "ok".
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Alucard188 posted...

The Admiral posted...

The user scores aren't even worth acknowledging, but why are the critic scores so low? 75 is almost bomb territory for a AAA game. Are they dinging for the microtransactions nonsense too?

I haven't read any of them, but Jim has a video out that showcases that the game's SP mode is pretty shallow and glitch filled. Also, you're part of these set pieces, but you don't get to participate in them. Everything happens in the background, and you don't get to really partake in them. Even WhatCulture thinks that the game is merely "ok".

That's really sad. After EA lowered the credits for the heroes I was ready to buy this game again. Never thought the biggest problem would actually be mediocre gameplay.
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Banjo2553 posted...

Well, what's more fair:

- Taking the game's mechanics, strengths, and faults and judging the score fairly.
- Giving the game a 1/10 because it has microtransactions and lootboxes.

This.
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charey posted...

PoopPotato posted...

The streams I've seen look fun. I'll get it, just won't get any loot boxes

If you do this loot boxes will get worse as there is no downside for EA to making them as horrible as possible.

Good, you burger flippers dont deserve the good loot. Maybe when Bernie bro gets you $15 an hour you can upgrade to a monthly loot subscription
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NeuralLaxative posted...

charey posted...

PoopPotato posted...

The streams I've seen look fun. I'll get it, just won't get any loot boxes

If you do this loot boxes will get worse as there is no downside for EA to making them as horrible as possible.

Good, you burger flippers dont deserve the good loot. Maybe when Bernie bro gets you $15 an hour you can upgrade to a monthly loot subscription

Now there's an appropriate username
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ZombiePelican posted...

Doesn't matter there's nothing remotely close to entitlement here, consumers have every right to review review bomb a game even if they didn't play it

it does
those reviews arent worth reading or taking into account
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marc55 posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

Doesn't matter there's nothing remotely close to entitlement here, consumers have every right to review review bomb a game even if they didn't play it

it does
those reviews arent worth reading or taking into account

Yes they are, more so than any professional site like IGN or Gamespot who are paid to deceive consumers by publishers by giving great scores to mediocre and bad games
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ZombiePelican posted...

marc55 posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

Doesn't matter there's nothing remotely close to entitlement here, consumers have every right to review review bomb a game even if they didn't play it

it does
those reviews arent worth reading or taking into account

Yes they are, more so than any professional site like IGN or Gamespot.

TIL: reviews made by people who are upset with a single aspect of the game are worthy of notice

Actually how can you even review a game if you only have an idea about a single particular aspect of said game?
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I do agree that IGN is a joke site though tbh
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Samurontai posted...

TIL: reviews made by people who are upset with a single aspect of the game are worthy of notice

More worthy of notice than people who are paid to deceive consumers at the behest of publishers
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Lol if they paid people off for a 7.5/10 I'd want my money back.
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ZombiePelican posted...

Samurontai posted...

TIL: reviews made by people who are upset with a single aspect of the game are worthy of notice

More worthy of notice than people who are paid to deceive consumers at the behest of publishers

Yes, because middlegrounds don't exist at all, mirite?
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Samurontai posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

Samurontai posted...

TIL: reviews made by people who are upset with a single aspect of the game are worthy of notice

More worthy of notice than people who are paid to deceive consumers at the behest of publishers

Yes, because middlegrounds don't exist at all, mirite?

It's ZP. He's not about a middle ground. You have to be 100% against loot boxes/microtransactions or else you are a corporate shill.
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Tmaster148 posted...

Samurontai posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

Samurontai posted...

TIL: reviews made by people who are upset with a single aspect of the game are worthy of notice

More worthy of notice than people who are paid to deceive consumers at the behest of publishers

Yes, because middlegrounds don't exist at all, mirite?

It's ZP. He's not about a middle ground. You have to be 100% against loot boxes/microtransactions or else you are a corporate shill.

P much
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For reference, Mass Effect Andromeda pulled about the same Metacritic.

So if people think SWBF2 is doing "well", it is not.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

For reference, Mass Effect Andromeda pulled about the same Metacritic.

So if people think SWBF2 is doing "well", it is not.

It's probably still doing well in sales though
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Samurontai posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

Samurontai posted...

TIL: reviews made by people who are upset with a single aspect of the game are worthy of notice

More worthy of notice than people who are paid to deceive consumers at the behest of publishers

Yes, because middlegrounds don't exist at all, mirite?

What is it with you people and trying so desperately to find middle ground that does not exist?

Any site that is not Japanese or Eurogamer their scores must be instantly disregarded because they're heavily influenced by the money of publishers. And as I've said before publishers do not deserve us sympathizing with them and trying to play devil's advocate for them
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ZombiePelican posted...

Samurontai posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

Samurontai posted...

TIL: reviews made by people who are upset with a single aspect of the game are worthy of notice

More worthy of notice than people who are paid to deceive consumers at the behest of publishers

Yes, because middlegrounds don't exist at all, mirite?

What is it with you people and trying so desperately to find middle ground that does not exist?

Because the middle ground does exist

Why the fuck would they pay people to give it a score of 75

In what world would that make sense (besides you're little made up world or whatever, that is)
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

For reference, Mass Effect Andromeda pulled about the same Metacritic.

So if people think SWBF2 is doing "well", it is not.

Bringing up Mass Effect Andromeda is not helping your cause considering it basically got away with a 7 and is and was fundamentally broken in multiple ways, if that doesn't show you the influence publishers have on reviews and their stores then I don't know what to tell you
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ZombiePelican posted...

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

For reference, Mass Effect Andromeda pulled about the same Metacritic.

So if people think SWBF2 is doing "well", it is not.

Bringing up Mass Effect Andromeda is not helping your cause considering it basically got away with a 7 and is and was fundamentally broken in multiple ways, if that doesn't show you the influence publishers have on reviews and their stores then I don't know what to tell you

It is also a failure and I don't think it made its money back. It is already a bargain bin title less than a year after its release.
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ZombiePelican posted...

marc55 posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

Doesn't matter there's nothing remotely close to entitlement here, consumers have every right to review review bomb a game even if they didn't play it

it does
those reviews arent worth reading or taking into account

Yes they are, more so than any professional site like IGN or Gamespot who are paid to deceive consumers by publishers by giving great scores to mediocre and bad games

no those are worthless and a waste of time to read
i trust more reviews like this one

Going to give a more honest review amidst the whole micro-transaction outrage, but I must say the game itself is still a big disappointment. The game looks amazing on PS4, but suffers from ridiculous frame rate drops to the point where the game freezes for up to a second. The gunplay is a lot better than the first but there isn't much in terms of weapon variety, and some weapons are too weak and aren't viable at all. I like the point system in game as it rewards good players, but I find that the star cards are almost too strong at some points (just for some classes and vehicles), which could almost be considered P2W. I actually don't mind being able to unlock heroes with credits because it gives you something to grind for (obviously the 40 hour grind was a bit much but it's much more reasonable now). The campaign is also a bit too short which was disappointing, but not unexpected by todays standards. The crate system is definitely a bit much, would honestly not care if either you couldn't buy them with real money (just credits), or make them cosmetic only, but right now I haven't felt like I was at a disadvantage because I refused to purchase any crates. Overall I'd give this game a 6.5/10... honestly it's only a few minor tweaks away from being a great game

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Samurontai posted...

Because the middle ground does exist

No it does not ,reviewers that are not Japanese or Eurogamer are paid by publishers to influence their reviews and scores and must instantly be disregarded
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ZombiePelican posted...

Samurontai posted...

Because the middle ground does exist

No it does not ,reviewers that are not Japanese or Eurogamer are paid by publishers to influence their reviews and scores and must instantly be disregarded

Thing is, lots of people like the gameplay. Gameplay is a huge aspect of a review. The fact that it's reviewing as poorly as it is despite having the same gameplay as titles like Battlefield One is pretty telling.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

Samurontai posted...

Because the middle ground does exist

No it does not ,reviewers that are not Japanese or Eurogamer are paid by publishers to influence their reviews and scores and must instantly be disregarded

Thing is, lots of people like the gameplay. Gameplay is a huge aspect of a review. The fact that it's reviewing as poorly as it is despite having the same gameplay as titles like Battlefield One is pretty telling.

Basically this

The gameplay isn't even being touched upon in these reviews, they're focusing solely on the micro transactions
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

Thing is, lots of people like the gameplay. Gameplay is a huge aspect of a review.

Most professional reviewers from sites like IGN or Gamespot are garbage at games and trusting their opinion on how well a game plays is a joke. Gamespot official review for Crash remastered gave it a 6 and they couldn't even finish the game, again they don't deserve to be trusted so we muat instantly disregard their opinion and stick to Youtubers ,Eurogamer for Japanese sites for the best reviews
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Personally, I pay the most attention to reviews done by Easy Allies. They're patreon-funded and are reasonably skilled at games (there's plenty of evidence of their competency, on their streams). They gave this game 2.5 stars (i.e. 5/10), which I think is fair for such a mixed bag.

I'm not going to tell anyone else that his or her review diet is wrong, though.
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Samurontai posted...

Basically this

The gameplay isn't even being touched upon in these reviews, they're focusing solely on the micro transactions

Which are apart of the game and deserve to be factored into the score regardless of how you care about it, you sound like the spineless worms who say we should't let the state of a game's launch affect it's overall score even if it's in a broken and almost unplayable state at launch
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Polycosm posted...

Personally, I pay the most attention to reviews done by Easy Allies. They're patreon-funded and are reasonably skilled at games (there's plenty of evidence of their competency, on their streams). They gave this game 2.5 stars (i.e. 5/10), which I think is fair for such a mixed bag.

I'm not going to tell anyone else that his or her review diet is wrong, though.

I adore Easy Allies. I'm a patron. Huber was PISSED about it. Did you watch Frame Trap? Boy oh boy
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ZombiePelican posted...

Samurontai posted...

Basically this

The gameplay isn't even being touched upon in these reviews, they're focusing solely on the micro transactions

Which are apart of the game and deserve to be factored into the score regardless of how you care about it, you sound like the spineless worms who say we should't let the state of a game's launch affect it's overall score even if it's in a broken and almost unplayable state at launch

reviews like the one i quoted are doing it
the 0 score ones arent event trying to write a review
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ZombiePelican posted...

Samurontai posted...

Basically this

The gameplay isn't even being touched upon in these reviews, they're focusing solely on the micro transactions

Which are apart of the game and deserve to be factored into the score regardless of how you care about it

1) You should work on your insults, there pretty awful

2) They aren't being factored in, they're being exclusively talked about
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

Polycosm posted...

Personally, I pay the most attention to reviews done by Easy Allies. They're patreon-funded and are reasonably skilled at games (there's plenty of evidence of their competency, on their streams). They gave this game 2.5 stars (i.e. 5/10), which I think is fair for such a mixed bag.

I'm not going to tell anyone else that his or her review diet is wrong, though.

I adore Easy Allies. I'm a patron. Huber was PISSED about it. Did you watch Frame Trap? Boy oh boy

lol, yeah I listened to that one in the car. If Huber can't get hyped for a game then you KNOW something is seriously wrong.
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