Current Events > Do you think people still care about critics' opinions for DCCU films?

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seeing as to how successful Suicide Squad was. Maybe people have come to realized critics will always bash DCCU films while d***k riding Marvel films.

Maybe people have come to realize to think independently and not judge a movie being judged by only a hundred or so of the same critics that sway the entire movie industry's direction with their jerked up opinions on how all superhero movies should be

and just to clear up, I'm not saying this a DCCU fan. In fact I kinda hated Wonder Woman, it was overrated as s***. So why are people forcing their opinions to have to be the same as critics' consensus again?

Mackorov posted...

Maybe people have come to realized critics will always bash DCCU films while d***k riding Marvel films.

I don't understand this thinking.

Critics don't like DC films because they're poor examples filmmaking, pure and simple.

This sort of talk implies there's some sort of inherit bias against DC. If that's the case then why?
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Mackorov posted...

So why are people forcing their opinions to have to be the same as critics' consensus again?

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean
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When it comes to comic movies period, no I don't give a damn about what they say. I saw Justice League 2 hours ago and thought it was a lot of fun. Definitely better than Age of Ultron which was given a much higher rating.

I watched Ragnarok recently also and thought they were both about even in terms of quality for me.
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Doom_Art posted...

Mackorov posted...

So why are people forcing their opinions to have to be the same as critics' consensus again?

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean

for example, an average movie-goer goes to watch a movie. He likes it. But then he sees the RT score showing the movie scores 10% pure rotten. He suddenly has second thoughts. He tries to wonder what was wrong with the movie.
His friend who hasnt watched the movie but saw the RT score proclaims 'wow, this movie sucks!'

The guy starts panicking. Slowly, he starts to think like the hivemind that, just like him, has subconsciously been trying to convince themselves the movie suck too, just 'cos the godly bar of judgement that is Rotten Tomatoes tells them IT SUCKS!
Eventually he forms the opinion that the movie does indeed suck.

That's the life of a blind sheep. The majority of people, unfortunately, behave like blind sheep

Suicide Squad was successful? I suppose. It wasn't any more or less successful than the other superhero movies that year. The positive reviews only contributed like 15% to Civil War's Box office that year.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=dc2016.htm
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Or maybe it's just the the DCEU films suck and were rushed to get to that sweet Avengers money.

Mackorov posted...

That's the life of a blind sheep. The majority of people, unfortunately, behave like blind sheep

But not you though?

Nooooo of course not.

Anyway, in answer to your question, I would say there's nothing wrong with maybe taking other people's opinions into account and looking at something through a different lens.
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Doom_Art posted...

Mackorov posted...

Maybe people have come to realized critics will always bash DCCU films while d***k riding Marvel films.

I don't understand this thinking.

Critics don't like DC films because they're poor examples filmmaking, pure and simple.

This sort of talk implies there's some sort of inherit bias against DC. If that's the case then why?

you should go read some of the reviews. Negatives just because critics can't wash away their Christian Bale love and still refuse to accept Affleck as Batman despite better performance. Negatives because 'too much CGI'. Negatives because 'villian not well developed'. Flaws sounds familiar of another rival movie-verse?

I'd look to see what flaws a movie has, but stupid points like this has made me lose all trust in movie critics.

Secondly, you do know it's almost always the same critics reviewing, right? Why are all bunch of these same people reviewing movies and basically commanding how a movie SHOULD be based on what only they think it SHOULD be?

People do. I don't.
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hollow_shrine posted...

Suicide Squad was successful? I suppose

Hey that's an Academy Award-winning film, show some respect.

Asherlee10 posted...

Which DC films are supposed to be bad?

Most people say the DCEU films with the exception of Wonder Woman, are bad.

So Man of Steel, BvS, Suicide Squad, and Justice League

Asherlee10 posted...

I really liked Superman, Wonder Woman, The Batman films, V for Vendetta, and probably more.

Most of DC's films before Man of Steel were quite good, it's just this particularly series is being handled especially poorly.

MikeArmstrong posted...

Or maybe it's just the the DCEU films suck and were rushed to get to that sweet Avengers money.

Like this is very transparently the case. And I don't know why they felt the need to rush it like they did.

Avengers worked because there was a buildup of about 4 years to it, and they didn't announce 20 fucking films ahead of time (which to be fair is currently an issue I have with Marvel as well).

In the buildup there was some stuff you didn't see coming (like in the Marvel post credit scenes, everything with the Cube, and Thor's Hammer) that kinda hinted at what's coming up. And you also had time to get familiar with each character in their own movie.

With the buildup to Justice League the setup falls flat because we knew right from the start that Justice League was what they were doing and exactly what characters were going to be in it.

And also it's hard to give a shit about most of these people.
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Doom_Art posted...

Mackorov posted...

That's the life of a blind sheep. The majority of people, unfortunately, behave like blind sheep

But not you though?

Nooooo of course not.

Anyway, in answer to your question, I would say there's nothing wrong with maybe taking other people's opinions into account and looking at something through a different lens.

of course, that's what a sensible person SHOULD do. The problem is if you base your opinion on a mass consensus without diving deeper into the questions of 'why? how? what?'

99% of people dont even read the RT reviews. They just look at that big red scorebar to judge if the movie is good or not.

Mackorov posted...

you should go read some of the reviews.

I have

Mackorov posted...

Negatives just because critics can't wash away their Christian Bale love and still refuse to accept Affleck as Batman despite better performance. Negatives because 'too much CGI'. Negatives because 'villian not well developed'.

The complaints about Affleck in this movie that I've read at least have little to do with Bale or "refusing to accept" Affleck, and more to do with the fact that Affleck is written inconsistently in this film, and his performance is poor (as though he is just phoning it in).

Too much CGI I have heard, yes. Specifically that the CGI was poor. That's a very fair criticism when 90% of your movie is CGI.

Villain not developed is always a legit criticism. And yes, Marvel is rightfully bashed when that does occur in their films.

Mackorov posted...

I'd look to see what flaws a movie has, but stupid points like this

Those are flaws, and they're not stupid just because you disagree with them.

Mackorov posted...

Why are all bunch of these same people reviewing movies and basically commanding how a movie SHOULD be based on what only they think it SHOULD be?

Because while there is room for opinion, there are kinda rules on how a movie should be, and there are typically things that mark a good and bad piece of work.

These guys aren't just randos who were pulled off the street, they're often folks who've studied film.
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Asherlee10 posted...

Ah, okay. I didn't really care for Batman v Superman though.

It was awful. Same with Suicide Squad imo

Man of Steel was decent but I found was a poor adaptation of the character.

Wonder Woman was tops tho

MikeArmstrong posted...

I've had a DC fan compare BvS to Apocalypse Now
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Just because Suicide Squad was successful doesn't mean it was good. Even look at user reviews on IMDb and such, the people who saw it thought it was bad to meh at best. Reviews aren't meant to tell you how successful a movie is going to be, just wether it's good or not in the reviewers opinion.
Tons of garbage movies make tons of money and tons of great movies make next to nothing.
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Doom_Art posted...

MikeArmstrong posted...

I've had a DC fan compare BvS to Apocalypse Now

Christ. Reminds me of @batmanvsuperman aka @snkboi

MikeArmstrong posted...

the stages you go through to make your argument.

>Immediately assume the person you're against is in a faction of strong opposition.

Next: try to attack on personal feelings (again, on above far fetched assumption) by relating to said faction

> posts a big picture meme to get your message across and sound really funny and smart

btw pretty much sums up a Trump supporter calling any hater a 'liberal'

so lemme clear your very assumption for you first. I don't like DCCU films, I'm hardly interested in them these days. Did I even say I was? What was the relevance of your meme again?

Lmao TC getting mad

Mackorov posted...

I don't like DCCU films, I'm hardly interested in them these days. Did I even say I was?

You're being rather dishonest right now tbh
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MikeArmstrong posted...

Lmao TC getting mad

final step a person like you takes in making your stance.

>make another irrelevant remark that contributes nothing to personally try to insult opposition while saving face

lots of GFAQers who like to do this.

Doom_Art posted...

Mackorov posted...

I don't like DCCU films, I'm hardly interested in them these days. Did I even say I was?

You're being rather dishonest right now tbh

pretty sad you need to delude yourself into continuing under said preassumption of an opposition party just to cling onto that only thin line of thinking you have.

or to put that Trump example again:
'I'm not liberal'
'N-no! You're liberal! You have to liberal! Or else why are you opposing me? I can't throw my liberal slurs at you anymore!'

Mackorov posted...

MikeArmstrong posted...

Lmao TC getting mad

final step a person like you takes in making your stance.

>make another irrelevant remark that contributes nothing to personally try to insult opposition while saving face

lots of GFAQers who like to do this.

You're getting mad because your favorite movies are getting trashed and then lying about not being a DCEU fan.

If you weren't a DCEU fan, you wouldn't think the movies are getting unfairly reviewed. The critics don't care if a film is Marvel or DC and thinking otherwise is silly.

idc what critics say. I will still see JL. However, I've generally agreed with the critics thus far so my expectations aren't super high

I find it kinda hilarious how badly DC is handling this thing.
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Mackorov posted...

pretty sad you need to delude yourself into continuing under said preassumption of an opposition party just to cling onto that only thin line of thinking you have.

You're the one who made this topic.

You started out by complaining about how DC films are treated compared to Marvel films

You've dismissed criticism of DC films.

It's not a jump to assume you're a fan of DC
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I do know the critics are unfair to DC movies, and they only liked Wonder Woman because of feminism. I have my tickets to see Justice League in IMAX tomorrow night! ^_^

MikeArmstrong posted...

Mackorov posted...

MikeArmstrong posted...

Lmao TC getting mad

final step a person like you takes in making your stance.

>make another irrelevant remark that contributes nothing to personally try to insult opposition while saving face

lots of GFAQers who like to do this.

You're getting mad because your favorite movies are getting trashed and then lying about not being a DCEU fan.

If you weren't a DCEU fan, you wouldn't think the movies are getting unfairly reviewed. The critics don't care if a film is Marvel or DC and thinking otherwise is silly.

See, narrow-minded thinking. So I can only think this certain way if I am in this certain position of standing?

why can't I? It's my opinion, isnt it? The only sad thing here is how no one can even raise a DCCU topic on questioning something without being instantly labelled a 'DC fanboy' or something. If I were to do this same topic for another non-DC related movie and that isnt some franchise, would it be the same? No, wouldn't it?

Suicide Squad was successful?

FFS that movie is terrible.
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Mackorov posted...

The only sad thing here is how no one can even raise a DCCU topic on questioning something without being instantly labelled a 'DC fanboy' or something.

Because typically only fans of DC give a shit.

Hence why we assumed you're a fan.

And now you're not responding to anything anyone else has said and are trying to admonish us for daring to assume you're a fan.

As I said above, you're being very dishonest right now.
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You're bitching because the movies you like are getting bad scores and trying to justify why they're getting low scores. It's ok, a lot of people are still at this stage after the JL RT score.

I don't and never really did honestly. If I think that a movie might be something I could see myself enjoying, I'll likely see it for myself and and form my own opinion on it.

Sometimes I'll like a movie with horrible reviews and hate another with great reviews. I even admit that sometimes I can even see why it was so poorly received, but still enjoy it.
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