Current Events > Christians unable to adopt children due to being anti-gay. Is this fair?

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More than fair imo
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Yes, it's entirely fair. If those dumbasses can't even grasp the simple concept of their own religion, how can they grasp parenthood and raising a child?
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Christians being punished for following their Christian faith. Wow.
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

Christians being punished for following their Christian faith. Wow.

"why are you persecuting my ability to persecute"
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UncleBourbon33 posted...

Christians being punished for following their Christian faith. Wow.

Something tells me if this was a Muslim family being denied because they openly stated they'd disown their child if they ever ate a pork chop because their religion says not to. Or if they said they'd disown a child who wouldn't agree to an arranged marriage or who tried to be with someone who wasn't Muslim because their religion says not to.
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Gamer99z posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

Christians being punished for following their Christian faith. Wow.

Something tells me if this was a Muslim family being denied because they openly stated they'd disown their child if they ever ate a pork chop because their religion says not to. Or if they said they'd disown a child who wouldn't agree to an arranged marriage or who tried to be with someone who wasn't Muslim because their religion says not to.

@UncleBourbon33
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Slip-N-Slide posted...

Gamer99z posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

Christians being punished for following their Christian faith. Wow.

Something tells me if this was a Muslim family being denied because they openly stated they'd disown their child if they ever ate a pork chop because their religion says not to. Or if they said they'd disown a child who wouldn't agree to an arranged marriage or who tried to be with someone who wasn't Muslim because their religion says not to.

@UncleBourbon33

That dude never finished either sentence and its extremely unsatisfying
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Callixtus posted...

Slip-N-Slide posted...

Gamer99z posted...

UncleBourbon33 posted...

Christians being punished for following their Christian faith. Wow.

Something tells me if this was a Muslim family being denied because they openly stated they'd disown their child if they ever ate a pork chop because their religion says not to. Or if they said they'd disown a child who wouldn't agree to an arranged marriage or who tried to be with someone who wasn't Muslim because their religion says not to.

@UncleBourbon33

That dude never finished either sentence and its extremely unsatisfying

Yeah no kidding, I really hate when. Also it's doesn't make any sense why he.
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They should put children with tolerant Muslim families instead.
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MabusIncarnate posted...

Yes, it's entirely fair. If those dumbasses can't even grasp the simple concept of their own religion, how can they grasp parenthood and raising a child?

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Only Gender non binary transqueer racially ambiguous people or otherkin should be able to adopt children so they can teach their moral values such as acceptance, Love, how to be equal, how to disestablish patriarchy (we need people in younger ages working in what we cant see such as elementary schools)

Id say to sterilize others but Im anti-eugenics but I dont think they should raise children especially children who should rightfully go to the more loving parents; think about it would you want the social classes most commonly responsible for crime raising your kid!
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Patty_Fleur posted...

ollie89 posted...

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/christian-couple-say-efforts-to-adopt-rejected-over-their-views-on-sexuality

The christian couple are now claiming that they're being discriminated against for holding embarrassing, archaic beliefs.

Honestly, I think this is more than fair. When it comes to adoption, the best interests of the child is of the utmost importance. Why give a child to a couple holding anti-gay and/or ignorant attitudes when you can give the child to parents who are not?

Of course a bigot like you would say it's fair. Not all Christians hate gays.

If a couple is anti-gay, they would be more than unfit to raise a child who may be gay. This instance is perfectly fair. Prospective adoptee children should be protected from prospective parents who are bigots.
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LittleRoyal posted...

Only Gender non binary transqueer racially ambiguous people or otherkin should be able to adopt children so they can teach their moral values such as acceptance, Love, how to be equal, how to disestablish patriarchy (we need people in younger ages working in what we cant see such as elementary schools)

Id say to sterilize others but Im anti-eugenics but I dont think they should raise children especially children who should rightfully go to the more loving parents; think about it would you want the social classes most commonly responsible for crime raising your kid!

trying too hard
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Frankly, anyone who still holds archaic anti gay beliefs can go jump in front of a train.
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Gafemage posted...

LittleRoyal posted...

Only Gender non binary transqueer racially ambiguous people or otherkin should be able to adopt children so they can teach their moral values such as acceptance, Love, how to be equal, how to disestablish patriarchy (we need people in younger ages working in what we can?t see such as elementary schools)

I?d say to sterilize others but I?m anti-eugenics but I don?t think they should raise children especially children who should rightfully go to the more loving parents; think about it would you want the social classes most commonly responsible for crime raising your kid!

trying too hard

LittleRoyal is a fucking goofball lol
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SageHarpuia posted...

They should put children with tolerant Muslim families instead.

Or even tolerant Christians.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Patty_Fleur posted...

ollie89 posted...

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/christian-couple-say-efforts-to-adopt-rejected-over-their-views-on-sexuality

The christian couple are now claiming that they're being discriminated against for holding embarrassing, archaic beliefs.

Honestly, I think this is more than fair. When it comes to adoption, the best interests of the child is of the utmost importance. Why give a child to a couple holding anti-gay and/or ignorant attitudes when you can give the child to parents who are not?

Of course a bigot like you would say it's fair. Not all Christians hate gays.

If a couple is anti-gay, they would be more than unfit to raise a child who may be gay. This instance is perfectly fair. Prospective adoptee children should be protected from prospective parents who are bigots.

Why is it bigoted to have beliefs that don't line up with the progressive culture czars?
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Callixtus posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Patty_Fleur posted...

ollie89 posted...

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/christian-couple-say-efforts-to-adopt-rejected-over-their-views-on-sexuality

The christian couple are now claiming that they're being discriminated against for holding embarrassing, archaic beliefs.

Honestly, I think this is more than fair. When it comes to adoption, the best interests of the child is of the utmost importance. Why give a child to a couple holding anti-gay and/or ignorant attitudes when you can give the child to parents who are not?

Of course a bigot like you would say it's fair. Not all Christians hate gays.

If a couple is anti-gay, they would be more than unfit to raise a child who may be gay. This instance is perfectly fair. Prospective adoptee children should be protected from prospective parents who are bigots.

Why is it bigoted to have beliefs that don't line up with the progressive culture czars?

How would anti-gay parents raise a gay child they adopted? Explain how that would work.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Callixtus posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Patty_Fleur posted...

ollie89 posted...

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/christian-couple-say-efforts-to-adopt-rejected-over-their-views-on-sexuality

The christian couple are now claiming that they're being discriminated against for holding embarrassing, archaic beliefs.

Honestly, I think this is more than fair. When it comes to adoption, the best interests of the child is of the utmost importance. Why give a child to a couple holding anti-gay and/or ignorant attitudes when you can give the child to parents who are not?

Of course a bigot like you would say it's fair. Not all Christians hate gays.

If a couple is anti-gay, they would be more than unfit to raise a child who may be gay. This instance is perfectly fair. Prospective adoptee children should be protected from prospective parents who are bigots.

Why is it bigoted to have beliefs that don't line up with the progressive culture czars?

How would anti-gay parents raise a gay child they adopted? Explain how that would work.

They said they would love the kid, they just wouldn't support him having gay sex.

What's the big deal? As long as they aren't abusive, the kid can leave the home when he's 18 and fuck whomever he wants if that's what he wants to do. Lots of parents are conservative and don't want their kids having sex with anyone while they're in their home.
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Callixtus posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Callixtus posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Patty_Fleur posted...

ollie89 posted...

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/christian-couple-say-efforts-to-adopt-rejected-over-their-views-on-sexuality

The christian couple are now claiming that they're being discriminated against for holding embarrassing, archaic beliefs.

Honestly, I think this is more than fair. When it comes to adoption, the best interests of the child is of the utmost importance. Why give a child to a couple holding anti-gay and/or ignorant attitudes when you can give the child to parents who are not?

Of course a bigot like you would say it's fair. Not all Christians hate gays.

If a couple is anti-gay, they would be more than unfit to raise a child who may be gay. This instance is perfectly fair. Prospective adoptee children should be protected from prospective parents who are bigots.

Why is it bigoted to have beliefs that don't line up with the progressive culture czars?

How would anti-gay parents raise a gay child they adopted? Explain how that would work.

They said they would love the kid, they just wouldn't support him having gay sex.

What's the big deal? As long as they aren't abusive, the kid can leave the home when he's 18 and fuck whomever he wants if that's what he wants to do. Lots of parents are conservative and don't want their kids having sex with anyone while they're in their home.

Maybe they could just stop being homophobic?
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Callixtus posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Callixtus posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Patty_Fleur posted...

ollie89 posted...

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/christian-couple-say-efforts-to-adopt-rejected-over-their-views-on-sexuality

The christian couple are now claiming that they're being discriminated against for holding embarrassing, archaic beliefs.

Honestly, I think this is more than fair. When it comes to adoption, the best interests of the child is of the utmost importance. Why give a child to a couple holding anti-gay and/or ignorant attitudes when you can give the child to parents who are not?

Of course a bigot like you would say it's fair. Not all Christians hate gays.

If a couple is anti-gay, they would be more than unfit to raise a child who may be gay. This instance is perfectly fair. Prospective adoptee children should be protected from prospective parents who are bigots.

Why is it bigoted to have beliefs that don't line up with the progressive culture czars?

How would anti-gay parents raise a gay child they adopted? Explain how that would work.

They said they would love the kid, they just wouldn't support him having gay sex.

What's the big deal? As long as they aren't abusive, the kid can leave the home when he's 18 and fuck whomever he wants if that's what he wants to do. Lots of parents are conservative and don't want their kids having sex with anyone while they're in their home.

Maybe they could just stop being homophobic?

Maybe you could stop using buzzwords, and realize that the world is not a simple place, and people have a huge array of views that don't necessarily line up with yours.
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Maybe you could stop using buzzwords, and realize that the world is not a simple place, and people have a huge array of views that don't necessarily line up with yours.

I'm sure there was a time when I wasn't aware of this, but I have no idea how long ago it was and I don't remember what it was like.
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Even people that hate on Christianity these days are pussies.

What happened to heavy metal and ouija boards?
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TheCurseX2 posted...

Even people that hate on Christianity these days are pussies.

What happened to heavy metal and ouija boards?

I like heavy metal in terms of instrumentals, but I can't get into incomprehensible screaming/bellowing. Ouija boards are just dumb, superstitious nonsense.
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Callixtus posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Callixtus posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Patty_Fleur posted...

ollie89 posted...

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/christian-couple-say-efforts-to-adopt-rejected-over-their-views-on-sexuality

The christian couple are now claiming that they're being discriminated against for holding embarrassing, archaic beliefs.

Honestly, I think this is more than fair. When it comes to adoption, the best interests of the child is of the utmost importance. Why give a child to a couple holding anti-gay and/or ignorant attitudes when you can give the child to parents who are not?

Of course a bigot like you would say it's fair. Not all Christians hate gays.

If a couple is anti-gay, they would be more than unfit to raise a child who may be gay. This instance is perfectly fair. Prospective adoptee children should be protected from prospective parents who are bigots.

Why is it bigoted to have beliefs that don't line up with the progressive culture czars?

How would anti-gay parents raise a gay child they adopted? Explain how that would work.

They said they would love the kid, they just wouldn't support him having gay sex.

What's the big deal? As long as they aren't abusive, the kid can leave the home when he's 18 and fuck whomever he wants if that's what he wants to do. Lots of parents are conservative and don't want their kids having sex with anyone while they're in their home.

It doesn't even have to be gay sex though, it could be much less than that and the kid get scolded for it or be constantly have it reinforced that being gay is bad or told that if you're gay we won't approve of it can fuck a kid up and can actually unintentionally lead to them potentially questioning their sexuality more than they otherwise would have thinking "my parents made such a big deal about boys liking other boys, that it's bad, that I'll go to hell for it, that they won't approve of it. oh no what if I end up liking boys but don't realize it yet?" And then basically overthinking it so much that they start questioning if they do or not when they wouldn't have otherwise just because a big deal was made about it and they're scared of it like it's a disease or something... Then even worse would be if they are and then struggling with suppressing that, self loathing, and a myriad of other potential issues.
You have no idea how these people would handle raising the kid though. I've known parents who have forcibly not allowed their kid to hang out with their best friend because they felt like they were getting too close, like the other might be gay, or for having caught them holding hands or giving a hug or something.
Just saying they'd still love him doesn't say much. For all we know that could mean "we still love you but.... You're not hanging out with _____ anymore" or "we still love you, but.... We're going to send you to this summer camp that'll make sure you don't have any gay in you!"

Granted these are unfortunately things many parents do and kids have to deal with, but with people having their own kids you don't exactly know that or have any control over that situation. When you're an agent at an adoption agency and the future of a child and who they're going to be raised by is on your back, it's a huge red flag that's hard to look past when a couple is straightforward that they wouldn't be accepting of the kid if they turned out [some irrelevant uncontrollable personal trait]"
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Fair, next. If the parents are likely to teach their children bigotry, they shouldn't have children.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Gafemage posted...

LittleRoyal posted...

Only Gender non binary transqueer racially ambiguous people or otherkin should be able to adopt children so they can teach their moral values such as acceptance, Love, how to be equal, how to disestablish patriarchy (we need people in younger ages working in what we can?t see such as elementary schools)

I?d say to sterilize others but I?m anti-eugenics but I don?t think they should raise children especially children who should rightfully go to the more loving parents; think about it would you want the social classes most commonly responsible for crime raising your kid!

trying too hard

LittleRoyal is a fucking goofball lol

XD I was trying my best those people logic is hard to follow
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Callixtus posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Callixtus posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Patty_Fleur posted...

ollie89 posted...

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/christian-couple-say-efforts-to-adopt-rejected-over-their-views-on-sexuality

The christian couple are now claiming that they're being discriminated against for holding embarrassing, archaic beliefs.

Honestly, I think this is more than fair. When it comes to adoption, the best interests of the child is of the utmost importance. Why give a child to a couple holding anti-gay and/or ignorant attitudes when you can give the child to parents who are not?

Of course a bigot like you would say it's fair. Not all Christians hate gays.

If a couple is anti-gay, they would be more than unfit to raise a child who may be gay. This instance is perfectly fair. Prospective adoptee children should be protected from prospective parents who are bigots.

Why is it bigoted to have beliefs that don't line up with the progressive culture czars?

How would anti-gay parents raise a gay child they adopted? Explain how that would work.

They said they would love the kid, they just wouldn't support him having gay sex.

What's the big deal? As long as they aren't abusive, the kid can leave the home when he's 18 and fuck whomever he wants if that's what he wants to do. Lots of parents are conservative and don't want their kids having sex with anyone while they're in their home.

Good post.
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I'm not reading the article, but do they even hear the other side out? When a Christian says they don't agree with same sex unions libs always jump to "GAY HATING HOMOPHOBE!!1!1" finger pointing, but what Christ actually taught was to love people and hate the sins people commit.
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SageHarpuia posted...

I'm not reading the article, but do they even hear the other side out? When a Christian says they don't agree with same sex unions libs always jump to "GAY HATING HOMOPHOBE!!1!1" finger pointing, but what Christ actually taught was to love people and hate the sins people commit.

"Sin" is from the same source as homophobia and "What jesus taught" isn't held as reality by many. I mean, parents bringing up archaic nonsense beliefs and expecting them to hold weight happens in literally every generation of every family. Just tonight, my mother was talking about having looked at old family photos and become nauseous, which she and my stepfather both attributed to attached ghosts. She even acknowledged that she read that photos from nearly 100 years ago were developed using harsh and toxic chemicals, but that explanation went out the window because she"didn't smell them." I mean... bless her heart, and it was a good thanksgiving and she didn't sound all that sold on the ghost theory... but try snorting lines of CO2 until you're about to die of asphyxiation and then tell me what it smells like >_>. I'm obviously being obtuse on purpose. The point is, people form stories and beliefs around the unknown instead of leaving it unknown. I've had experiences I can't explain. I left them unexplained and I'm content with that. Religion is not. Religion stretches to explain everything and it doesn't care what fallacies arise in the process. Sin is an example of such a fallacious explanation and jesus being "hate the sin, not the winner *shrug emoji* is a means to handle "sinners" first by non-alienation and then hopefully from their perspective, conversion.
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Get rekt

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

I'm not reading the article, but do they even hear the other side out? When a Christian says they don't agree with same sex unions libs always jump to "GAY HATING HOMOPHOBE!!1!1" finger pointing, but what Christ actually taught was to love people and hate the sins people commit.

"Sin" is from the same source as homophobia and "What jesus taught" isn't held as reality by many. I mean, parents bringing up archaic nonsense beliefs and expecting them to hold weight happens in literally every generation of every family. Just tonight, my mother was talking about having looked at old family photos and become nauseous, which she and my stepfather both attributed to attached ghosts. She even acknowledged that she read that photos from nearly 100 years ago were developed using harsh and toxic chemicals, but that explanation went out the window because she"didn't smell them." I mean... bless her heart, and it was a good thanksgiving and she didn't sound all that sold on the ghost theory... but try snorting lines of CO2 until you're about to die of asphyxiation and then tell me what it smells like >_>. I'm obviously being obtuse on purpose. The point is, people form stories and beliefs around the unknown instead of leaving it unknown. I've had experiences I can't explain. I left them unexplained and I'm content with that. Religion is not. Religion stretches to explain everything and it doesn't care what fallacies arise in the process. Sin is an example of such a fallacious explanation and jesus being "hate the sin, not the winner *shrug emoji* is a means to handle "sinners" first by non-alienation and then hopefully from their perspective, conversion.

Have you ever thought that maybe it's not religion, but your own experiences and trying to justify your own actions?
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Get rekt

SageHarpuia posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

I'm not reading the article, but do they even hear the other side out? When a Christian says they don't agree with same sex unions libs always jump to "GAY HATING HOMOPHOBE!!1!1" finger pointing, but what Christ actually taught was to love people and hate the sins people commit.

"Sin" is from the same source as homophobia and "What jesus taught" isn't held as reality by many. I mean, parents bringing up archaic nonsense beliefs and expecting them to hold weight happens in literally every generation of every family. Just tonight, my mother was talking about having looked at old family photos and become nauseous, which she and my stepfather both attributed to attached ghosts. She even acknowledged that she read that photos from nearly 100 years ago were developed using harsh and toxic chemicals, but that explanation went out the window because she"didn't smell them." I mean... bless her heart, and it was a good thanksgiving and she didn't sound all that sold on the ghost theory... but try snorting lines of CO2 until you're about to die of asphyxiation and then tell me what it smells like >_>. I'm obviously being obtuse on purpose. The point is, people form stories and beliefs around the unknown instead of leaving it unknown. I've had experiences I can't explain. I left them unexplained and I'm content with that. Religion is not. Religion stretches to explain everything and it doesn't care what fallacies arise in the process. Sin is an example of such a fallacious explanation and jesus being "hate the sin, not the winner *shrug emoji* is a means to handle "sinners" first by non-alienation and then hopefully from their perspective, conversion.

Have you ever thought that maybe it's not religion, but your own experiences and trying to justify your own actions?

Have you ever weighed what experiences and actions do or do not require justification?

Edits: (sorry got hung up on words when I was editing)
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Get rekt

Can't believe this topic is still going...

If a couple is anti-gay they shouldn't be able to adopt.

Because if they adopted a gay child, the parents would undoubtedly have a negative affect on his/her growth.
No "anti-gay" couple is going to raise a healthy gay child.

God forbid they try to "convert him/her."
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Dustin1280 posted...

Can't believe this topic is still going...

If a couple is anti-gay they shouldn't be able to adopt.

Because if they adopted a gay child, the parents would undoubtedly have a negative affect on his/her growth.
No "anti-gay" couple is going to raise a healthy gay child.

God forbid they try to "convert him/her."

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