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dr_zomberg
11/10/17 3:43:54 AM
#55:


LordRazziel posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Guys, it's a waste of time to try to keep this going.

Yeah.
After Zomberg saying it has always meant wage war and it's just pc people change the definition, then being shown it is used in other ways in their holy book...nothing to say on that. There is really no point.


theres an anotation right next to that, this is what is "positive" according to the qouran:
The Islamic Law of War: Justifications and Regulations. Palgrave Macmillan. p. 56. ISBN 9780230111608. Seventeen derivatives of jihd occur altogether forty-one times in eleven Meccan texts and thirty Medinan ones, with the following five meanings: striving because of religious belief (21), war (12), non-Muslim parents exerting pressure, that is, jihd, to make their children abandon Islam (2), solemn oaths (5), and physical strength (1).
how strange, the article says its in the qouran, but instead of citing the verse, they cite an unrelated book.
HOW FUCKING STRANGE

this is like bringing a knife as evidence and then finding out you yourself are the killer
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11/10/17 4:11:57 AM
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SSJ4Broly
11/10/17 4:38:07 AM
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dr_zomberg posted...
second pic is literall the opposite of jihad


Is she like, going to blow up the uncovered woman?
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Funbazooka
11/10/17 4:47:23 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Cant they just be deported? They love islam so much, go back home and stop trying to ruin westernised countries.
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Sativa_Rose
11/10/17 4:53:55 AM
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My jihad: killing ISIS
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dr_zomberg
11/10/17 4:55:09 AM
#60:


Sativa_Rose posted...
My jihad: killing ISIS


before you do, let me lace the bullets with bacon grease.
those assholes dont deserve mercy nor a clean death.
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l Dudeboy l
11/10/17 4:57:24 AM
#61:


Rika_Furude posted...
Cant they just be deported? They love islam so much, go back home and stop trying to ruin westernised countries.


That's not the jihad way tho.
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LordRazziel
11/10/17 4:59:16 AM
#62:


@dr_zomberg posted...
LordRazziel posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Guys, it's a waste of time to try to keep this going.

Yeah.
After Zomberg saying it has always meant wage war and it's just pc people change the definition, then being shown it is used in other ways in their holy book...nothing to say on that. There is really no point.


theres an anotation right next to that, this is what is "positive" according to the qouran:
The Islamic Law of War: Justifications and Regulations. Palgrave Macmillan. p. 56. ISBN 9780230111608. Seventeen derivatives of jihd occur altogether forty-one times in eleven Meccan texts and thirty Medinan ones, with the following five meanings: striving because of religious belief (21), war (12), non-Muslim parents exerting pressure, that is, jihd, to make their children abandon Islam (2), solemn oaths (5), and physical strength (1).
how strange, the article says its in the qouran, but instead of citing the verse, they cite an unrelated book.
HOW FUCKING STRANGE

this is like bringing a knife as evidence and then finding out you yourself are the killer

So it's bunk because they didn't refernce the Quran? Why did you hold the parts that support your claim, if the citation is invalid? Do you know it is only used in a warlike manner in the Quran? How much do you know about the Quran? More than the people that have studied it and contributed to the page? I don't know much, but I trust they know more than I do. Maybe the page is just part of some pc conspiracy...
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DragonJumpKick
11/10/17 4:59:59 AM
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@LordRazziel
Thank you for making this the most educational post ive clicked on today. Do you study language or is it a hobby?
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dr_zomberg
11/10/17 5:10:58 AM
#64:


LordRazziel posted...

So it's bunk because they didn't refernce the Quran? Why did you hold the parts that support your claim, if the citation is invalid? Do you know it is only used in a warlike manner in the Quran? How much do you know about the Quran? More than the people that have studied it and contributed to the page? I don't know much, but I trust they know more than I do. Maybe the page is just part of some pc conspiracy...


if i read an article that says "the word whore is used in the bible" i expect the immediate [] to be a bible qoute.
like so

"the word whore is said several times in the bible" [Ex: Leviticus 19:29. King james bible.]
instead of
"the word whore is said several times in the bible" [national geographic, issue 4000, "improbable words used in the bible"]
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LordRazziel
11/10/17 5:12:09 AM
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DragonJumpKick posted...
@LordRazziel
Thank you for making this the most educational post ive clicked on today. Do you study language or is it a hobby?

https://ideas.ted.com/20-words-that-once-meant-something-very-different/
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The23rdMagus
11/10/17 5:32:03 AM
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I can respect that they're trying to reclaim the word as a righteous mission to do good in the world.

It won't work. There are still negative repercussions to "crusade", after all.
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Sami1000
11/10/17 5:35:39 AM
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Isn't all Muslims job to try to turn the whole world population into Muslims? Either by "peaceful" jihad by breeding and using non violent ways to turn countries into Muslim nations, and the Isis like terrorist groups or smaller ones that use violence for their goal?

Now i say "peaceful" because i honestly don't think the outcome is all that peaceful and believe that those kinds belong into "Islam watch force" who makes sure other Muslims follows the Islams ways.

Sure, there are likely plenty of Muslims who really don't give fuck about religion but are still muslims becuase they were raised as ones and don't want to deal with all the shit that would happen if they left Islam.
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EnragedSlith
11/10/17 8:14:30 AM
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This is going to backfire spectacularly, partially because of the word they chose, and mostly because everything about this shows how completely out of touch they are with the general population and reality in general.
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EnragedSlith
11/10/17 8:16:20 AM
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also:
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COVxy
11/10/17 8:20:29 AM
#70:


EnragedSlith posted...
This is going to backfire spectacularly, partially because of the word they chose, and mostly because everything about this shows how completely out of touch they are with the general population and reality in general.


Or, more appropriately, how uninformed about the Islamic faith the general public is.
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thelovefist
11/10/17 8:21:52 AM
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I don't see a problem with this at all. In fact, as long as the trolls are ignored (like those in the topic), this can effect a positive outcome. The usage of the word 'jihad' in this context is perfectly acceptable within the meaning of the world. This will hopefully lead to a more positive understanding of muslims and tolerance for all again as long as the trolls, and their noise-reactions, are ignored.
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ChromaticAngel
11/10/17 8:22:53 AM
#72:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
dr_zomberg posted...
second pic is literall the opposite of jihad

At its core, "jihad" means to struggle or strive toward a goal. I believe that's perfectly within the meaning.

it's a "struggle against infidels"

It is not just a "struggle"
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Newhopes
11/10/17 8:26:31 AM
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The left loves to bow down to Islam.
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Glass_Phantom
11/10/17 8:27:21 AM
#74:


Sami1000 posted...
Isn't all Muslims job to try to turn the whole world population into Muslims? Either by "peaceful" jihad by breeding and using non violent ways to turn countries into Muslim nations, and the Isis like terrorist groups or smaller ones that use violence for their goal?

Now i say "peaceful" because i honestly don't think the outcome is all that peaceful and believe that those kinds belong into "Islam watch force" who makes sure other Muslims follows the Islams ways.

Sure, there are likely plenty of Muslims who really don't give fuck about religion but are still muslims becuase they were raised as ones and don't want to deal with all the shit that would happen if they left Islam.

I suppose if one is prejudiced, and one's view of the world is tinted by radical Islamist and radical right-wing dogma, one could make the mistake of thinking all Muslims are zealots.
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EnragedSlith
11/10/17 8:30:02 AM
#75:


COVxy posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
This is going to backfire spectacularly, partially because of the word they chose, and mostly because everything about this shows how completely out of touch they are with the general population and reality in general.


Or, more appropriately, how uninformed about the Islamic faith the general public is.

it doesn't matter who is "right", it matters who is bigger

this campaign exists because we have a relatively small islamic population in this country who feel vilified, but these ads are only going to incense their antagonists further
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orcus_snake
11/10/17 8:32:25 AM
#76:


dr_zomberg posted...
second pic is literall the opposite of jihad


pretty sure that menas THAT is her fight/struggle.
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Mistere Man
11/10/17 8:33:11 AM
#77:


Here is the dictionary definition

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jihad
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Zodd3224
11/10/17 8:37:16 AM
#78:


Offworlder1 posted...
These ads are a parody or satire, jihad literally means a crusade or struggle, a holy war/spiritual struggle against infidels, or battle with something. There is nothing peaceful about the word, in classic islamic law it is armed struggle against unbelievers, modern version is defensive warfare which is still violence.

These ads are misleading and trying to make the word something it is not.


Good. Change the word into a positive.
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YourDrunkFather
11/10/17 8:42:52 AM
#79:


Zodd3224 posted...
Offworlder1 posted...
These ads are a parody or satire, jihad literally means a crusade or struggle, a holy war/spiritual struggle against infidels, or battle with something. There is nothing peaceful about the word, in classic islamic law it is armed struggle against unbelievers, modern version is defensive warfare which is still violence.

These ads are misleading and trying to make the word something it is not.


Good. Change the word into a positive.


No amount of memes is gonna change a "jihad" into a good thing
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darkjedilink
11/10/17 8:49:39 AM
#80:


Offworlder1 posted...
These ads are a parody or satire, jihad literally means a crusade or struggle, a holy war/spiritual struggle against infidels, or battle with something. There is nothing peaceful about the word, in classic islamic law it is armed struggle against unbelievers, modern version is defensive warfare which is still violence.

These ads are misleading and trying to make the word something it is not.

Modern jihad isn't defensive in any way.
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BalisticWarri0r
11/10/17 8:51:33 AM
#81:


dr_zomberg posted...
second pic is literall the opposite of jihad

Gotta build a bridge to get to where the infidel lives.... SO YOU CAN DESTROY HIM.
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Zodd3224
11/10/17 9:30:14 AM
#82:


YourDrunkFather posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Offworlder1 posted...
These ads are a parody or satire, jihad literally means a crusade or struggle, a holy war/spiritual struggle against infidels, or battle with something. There is nothing peaceful about the word, in classic islamic law it is armed struggle against unbelievers, modern version is defensive warfare which is still violence.

These ads are misleading and trying to make the word something it is not.


Good. Change the word into a positive.


No amount of memes is gonna change a "jihad" into a good thing


Cant hurt
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Black462
11/10/17 9:52:01 AM
#83:


dr_zomberg posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
My jihad: killing ISIS


before you do, let me lace the bullets with bacon grease.
those assholes dont deserve mercy nor a clean death.


Ah yiss
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chrono625
11/10/17 9:53:01 AM
#84:


Zodd3224 posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Offworlder1 posted...
These ads are a parody or satire, jihad literally means a crusade or struggle, a holy war/spiritual struggle against infidels, or battle with something. There is nothing peaceful about the word, in classic islamic law it is armed struggle against unbelievers, modern version is defensive warfare which is still violence.

These ads are misleading and trying to make the word something it is not.


Good. Change the word into a positive.


No amount of memes is gonna change a "jihad" into a good thing


Cant hurt


I hate to make this analogy, but would you be able to take a racist slur and change its meaning with a meme campaign?
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chrono625
11/10/17 9:58:05 AM
#87:


CrimsonRage posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Offworlder1 posted...
These ads are a parody or satire, jihad literally means a crusade or struggle, a holy war/spiritual struggle against infidels, or battle with something. There is nothing peaceful about the word, in classic islamic law it is armed struggle against unbelievers, modern version is defensive warfare which is still violence.

These ads are misleading and trying to make the word something it is not.


Good. Change the word into a positive.


No amount of memes is gonna change a "jihad" into a good thing


If you're determined to hate Muslims no matter what, yeah this won't do a thing.

Less hateful people that actually want to try to better Western-Muslim relations, it can't hurt to try.


there are far more ways to go about mending strained relations without using such a word that has a prominently violent connotation.
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chrono625
11/10/17 9:59:19 AM
#88:


CrimsonRage posted...
Worked with "yankee"


that's not even on the same level as some of the words I was referring to.
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YourDrunkFather
11/10/17 10:00:15 AM
#89:


CrimsonRage posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Offworlder1 posted...
These ads are a parody or satire, jihad literally means a crusade or struggle, a holy war/spiritual struggle against infidels, or battle with something. There is nothing peaceful about the word, in classic islamic law it is armed struggle against unbelievers, modern version is defensive warfare which is still violence.

These ads are misleading and trying to make the word something it is not.


Good. Change the word into a positive.


No amount of memes is gonna change a "jihad" into a good thing


If you're determined to hate Muslims no matter what, yeah this won't do a thing.

Less hateful people that actually want to try to better Western-Muslim relations, it can't hurt to try.


Oh god shut the fuck up you hypocritical imbecile. Only one of us has flat out supported institutional racism. Pretty safe to say you're a lot more hateful than I am
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The Admiral
11/10/17 10:01:09 AM
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If Islamic groups are stupid enough not to understand the connotations of jihad, they deserve to be ridiculed.
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Questionmarktarius
11/10/17 10:01:43 AM
#91:


Friendly reminder that some little Austrian dickhole once wrote a book whose title also translates to "my struggle".
Yes. Went there.
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southcoast09
11/10/17 10:02:30 AM
#92:


dr_zomberg posted...
second pic is literall the opposite of jihad

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Glass_Phantom
11/10/17 10:03:23 AM
#93:


YourDrunkFather posted...

This post was uncalled for, and you should apologize for it.

Our world needs less hate and more silly mustaches. I stand firmly on the side of the Muslim people trying to reclaim this word and drive back prejudice.
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SageHarpuia
11/10/17 10:04:46 AM
#94:


Covering everything but your face isn't modesty, it's prudishness. And picture 2 looks like it was made by a basement dwelling SJW who has no grasp on the concept.
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chrono625
11/10/17 10:09:15 AM
#96:


CrimsonRage posted...
Not anymore, but it used to be a very serious slur against Americans.


your argument is poor.

'Jihad' has thousands of years of violent history going against it.
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YourDrunkFather
11/10/17 10:09:47 AM
#97:


Glass_Phantom posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...

This post was uncalled for, and you should apologize for it.

Our world needs less hate and more silly mustaches. I stand firmly on the side of the Muslim people trying to reclaim this word and drive back prejudice.


No, fuck that guy. When there was a topic discussing the South African government's institutional racism towards it's white residents his sentiment was basically "well, they're white so they deserve it".

And yet despite that, he constantly trys to act like a self righteous ass hat and has zero self awareness about what bigoted sack he is himself.
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YourDrunkFather
11/10/17 10:11:22 AM
#98:


CrimsonRage posted...
chrono625 posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
Worked with "yankee"


that's not even on the same level as some of the words I was referring to.


Not anymore, but it used to be a very serious slur against Americans.

YourDrunkFather posted...

YourDrunkFather, more like YourMadDad lol


Ha ha. Typical your only response to that is "hur hur u mad". You're such a clown
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Zodd3224
11/10/17 10:21:53 AM
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chrono625 posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Offworlder1 posted...
These ads are a parody or satire, jihad literally means a crusade or struggle, a holy war/spiritual struggle against infidels, or battle with something. There is nothing peaceful about the word, in classic islamic law it is armed struggle against unbelievers, modern version is defensive warfare which is still violence.

These ads are misleading and trying to make the word something it is not.


Good. Change the word into a positive.


No amount of memes is gonna change a "jihad" into a good thing


Cant hurt


I hate to make this analogy, but would you be able to take a racist slur and change its meaning with a meme campaign?


That wpuld be hysterical
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thelovefist
11/10/17 10:23:38 AM
#101:


The Admiral posted...
If Islamic groups are stupid enough not to understand the connotations of jihad, they deserve to be ridiculed.

But this is really you, and others, not realizing what one of the definitions of it are...
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YourDrunkFather
11/10/17 10:27:33 AM
#102:


CrimsonRage posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
Glass_Phantom posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...

This post was uncalled for, and you should apologize for it.

Our world needs less hate and more silly mustaches. I stand firmly on the side of the Muslim people trying to reclaim this word and drive back prejudice.


No, fuck that guy. When there was a topic discussing the South African government's institutional racism towards it's white residents his sentiment was basically "well, they're white so they deserve it".

And yet despite that, he constantly trys to act like a self righteous ass hat and has zero self awareness about what bigoted sack he is himself.


God damn, you're still holding this grudge? I've never said anything of the sort but you keep harping on it every time I post. I doubt you give users who have said actual racist things this much attention lol


Yes, yes you did. You acted like it was deserved because of apartheid and it's got nothing to do with "holding a grudge" it's about checking you on your own bigotry when you try to act like self rightous douche to me like you did in this topic.

Especially considering you had the nerve to imply I "hate Muslims" because I'm critical of Islam which is ignorant as fuck

Also stop with exaggerations. I havent said shit to you in probably six+ months
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Offworlder1
11/10/17 10:37:03 AM
#103:


I cant believe some people here still think that trying to reclaim this word will work when it has over 1,000 years of negative implications. If I did not know I would be 100% modded I would do the same stupidity of Randal in Clerks 2 trying to reclaim a racial slur.

That is the equivalent of what these ads are doing cause the ignorant think they can rescue a word that one doesnt need to be saved, and second cant convey peaceful bridge building any other way except trying to be trendy or hip.

Mend relations, give peace a chance, hell get rid of hate between people and nations but do so intelligently.
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BarneyBosco
11/10/17 10:41:00 AM
#104:


This must have originated in London.
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